plonkyhead wrote:When I purchased my iphone 3gs the guy at the store told me to only charge with apple specific chargers because it would be bad for my phone if I didn't. I can't remember what he said but I think it had to do with the battery/battery life. Does anyone know if this is true or not?

for some life questions
http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html


quote:
The day the 3GS was released, iFixit.com dismantled the device and found that its battery offered only a minimal increase over its predecessor:

Apple promises improved battery life with the 3GS. The battery is listed as 3.7V and 4.51 Whr. This comes out to 1219 mAh, compared to 1150 mAh on the 3G. That's only a 6% increase.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/07/iphone-3-gs-battery-drain.html




really what i think he was referring to, was the 1150mAH battery that comes installed with an OEM iPhone 3GS. You can buy 1600mAH batteries online and use resources like fixya.com to replace the battery yourself step by step simply.

they are talking about the volts/amps being sucked out of your wall and prenatally injected into your phone via the power cable (one doing more damage than the other in terms of recharging it faster).

hope that helps a bit

cheers!

fatdogreggie1 wrote:The 10 Watt USB Adapter that ships with the iPad outputs 5.1 Volts at 2.1 Amps (2100ma) (this info was taken directly from my iPad's USB adapter)

10W divided by 5.1 volts = 1960mA Probably puts out 1600-1700 max under a load (I mean charging), 1500mA once it gets hot. This doesnt assume minor losses in a protection circuit to the charge port on the iPhone, and teensey losses in additional voltage regulation or zener diode to limit max voltage. Not sure what Apple uses, but I'm sure it's triple-protected knowing them.

That said, if this wont keep your phone charged, you're on it way too long and need to stop tweeting. At least while driving.

Does what it needs to. I already own one of these sets and they are always great to have around. i payed this much for just one at TJmax so i just got two more. thats 2 for 1 going by what i paid for last time. only thing that i don't like about them is that the blue light on the chargers is VERY bright.

phiyuku wrote:Does anyone know if these are Charge only cables. I remember buying a USB iPod Charger and the cable said Charge only and what do you know I can't get the darn thing to sync with that cable.

A very good point! For those who have, will they work for data as well? Thanks--

mentallyretired wrote:I'm not sure of the status of today's woot but Apple did make a change with the iPhones and iPods charge a few years ago. My iPhone 3GS won't charge on my cars adapter, but my 1st gen iPod Touch will.
http://blog.smalldog.com/article/1304/many-ipod-accessories-not-compatible-with-new-ipods/

I believe that this is due to the fact that some of the older iPod charging cables/adapters had the charging pins go to the firewire pins on the actual ipod whereas the newer models all charge via the USB pins. Older iPod models included pins (in the 30 pin connector) for using both firewire or USB. This is why older adapters do not charge the newer iPod models.

blue_94_trooper wrote:It's got a lot more to do with his commission.

Margins are huge on cables etc. Best Buy makes peanuts on a $1200 TV but will try to make it up selling you $75 HDMI cables.

I used to work for apple no commission at all, that has nothing to do with it.

gslander wrote:and......I have a bridge for sale............
not true, I will not get into a debate however these are a name brand. elsewhere on the web a $2 adapter with noname made in china I would not trust.

I got one of these from Hong Kong and they are complete junk, lol

dont waste your time on em


dont get me wrong, THE USB CABLE is totally ok
its the wall base usb plugin piece that was trash, threw that mofo away


i agree
this is a brand name, so id be more willing to trust this than some off-beaten random company online
(every NON-Apple charger ive purchased though hasnt exactly worked in one way or another...only the Apple chargers ive found have no problems charging my jolly POS Apple products)

i am a hater btw, eff apple


cheers!

sotiri wrote:Does what it needs to. I already own one of these sets and they are always great to have around. i payed this much for just one at TJmax so i just got two more. thats 2 for 1 going by what i paid for last time. only thing that i don't like about them is that the blue light on the chargers is VERY bright.

Sotiri, can you tell us:

-- how long is the cable?

-- does the cable sync data as well as provide power?

Thanks!

anderaj57 wrote:I used to work for apple no commission at all, that has nothing to do with it.

Apple employees DO NOT work on commission... that's why their customer service is god damn amazing.

uncchris wrote:I have one of these already. Works well - I like the versatility (can charge via wall, car, or USB). In for 1 2pk.

Likewise, uncchris, can you tell us the cable length, and whether the cable will sync data as well as provide power?

fatdogreggie1 wrote:I believe that this is due to the fact that some of the older iPod charging cables/adapters had the charging pins go to the firewire pins on the actual ipod whereas the newer models all charge via the USB pins. Older iPod models included pins (in the 30 pin connector) for using both firewire or USB. This is why older adapters do not charge the newer iPod models.

Hmmm so I probably shouldn'tt try these for a 4th gen ipod touch? I do already have an off brand charger that doesn't work with it.

iop9000 wrote:it says in includes (2)30 pin usb connectors, but on the "each packaging contents" http://sale.images.woot.com/AC11363A_specs1.jpg
there is only 1,
So does it have 2 or 1 ?

It has two packages, each containing 1 AC Adapter, 1 Car Adapter and 1 cable.

Total:
2 AC, 2 Car, 2 cables.

rufustel wrote:Sotiri, can you tell us:

-- how long is the cable?

-- does the cable sync data as well as provide power?

Thanks!

I'd seriously assume itd be safe to think the USB cable works like a USB cable

the length, i dunno

phiyuku wrote:Does anyone know if these are Charge only cables. I remember buying a USB iPod Charger and the cable said Charge only and what do you know I can't get the darn thing to sync with that cable.

From Woot's description for this item:

"The included 30-pin cable is essential for syncing your iPhone or iPod with iTunes, and for charging via your computer or USB charger"

I know Woot is not infallible however, it looks like you can sync and charge via this cable.

shan24 wrote:Hmmm so I probably shouldn'tt try these for a 4th gen ipod touch? I do already have an off brand charger that doesn't work with it.

http://www.theapplecollection.com/videos/video/qbZxk7tnDnU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Technical Details:Power up at home:
Charge iPod or iPhone from a wall outlet.

* Power Bug features a fold-away plug for easy storage and travel.

* Power iPod or iPhone from any auto power outlet and arrive at your destination fully charged.

* Use the included USB cable to charge and sync via your computer - a great spare or replacement cable.

* Compatible with: iPhone 3G, 3GS; iPhone; iPod Touch 1G and 2G; iPod Nano 2G, 3G, 4G; iPod Classic; iPod 5G



Cheers!

I think I may need to buy this just because of the excellent Homestarrunner reference in the description n

I'm wondering whether this will work for an iPod touch 4g, too. The mf'r documentation is from last year so it's normal it would omit the latest devices, but here's one reason I'm wary of thinking it'll work: I have a Belkin car charger that worked great for my iPod touch 1g, but when I plug in my iPod touch 4g, it says "unsupported charging device" or something like that.

Apparently this person got it to work with the iPhone 4g w/o problems:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R46ZWVLFVG4S4/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_1

phiyuku wrote:Does anyone know if these are Charge only cables. I remember buying a USB iPod Charger and the cable said Charge only and what do you know I can't get the darn thing to sync with that cable.

Phillips' product leaflet says "...use the included cable to sync with iTunes...."

Cute, portable and in twos. Does it work on other things besides Apple stuff?

quoted from woot.com


Specifications:

Compatibility: iPod, iPhone, Most devices with a 30-pin USB cable

iPhone compatibility: iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4

iPod compatibility: iPod with docking connector (iPod Classic / iPod-5th generation / iPod nano-1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th generations / iPod touch-1st and 2nd generations)



Cheers!

Anyone else purchase one of these and have it sent to a family member or someone else, and then try to purchase a set for yourself and get the darned red message "Your account has already purchased this sale." ??

Know of why this is? And do I have to create a second account to circumvent this lameness?

shan24 wrote:Hmmm so I probably shouldn'tt try these for a 4th gen ipod touch? I do already have an off brand charger that doesn't work with it.

My 2nd gen iPod touch works fine with all of the USB chargers (it will not charge via the older style chargers however), so I don't see why these would not work on the 4th gen also.

I would bet that the packaging design for these chargers is likely a year or two old, so they would not list the newer gen iPods/iPhones as they were likely not on the market when this item was designed and/or produced.

So......iPhone 4, yeah or nay?

iop9000 wrote:it says in includes (2)30 pin usb connectors, but on the "each packaging contents" http://sale.images.woot.com/AC11363A_specs1.jpg
there is only 1,
So does it have 2 or 1 ?

It gets confusing every time Woot sells a multi-pack of items containing multiple items. Based on the pic of the package itself, I believe there is one(1) cable, one(1) car charger, and one(1) wall charger in each of the two(2) packages you get for the Two for Tuesday deal.

Yes, it would be logical to include two cables in a package containing two different kinds of chargers, but it does not look like that is the case here. I believe you will have four chargers and two cables show up on your doorstep if you click the stupidly large gold button.

thaskaman wrote:I'd seriously assume itd be safe to think the USB cable works like a USB cable

the length, i dunno

Actually, some USB cables will only work for power and not for data--I have 2 (unfortunately).

jessiebyrd004 wrote:Cute, portable and in twos. Does it work on other things besides Apple stuff?

yup
it works with anything that can accept that longer end there




zune has its own too




in other words, no
its a proprietary charger plug for their devices only

sorry

This is my first woot order and am wondering if this is an error.

When purchasing this item for the 2-for tuesday I clicked on the "I want ONE" option and the packaging showed that I would be receiving 2 of the iphone charging packs. Once I placed my order and checked out it shows that I am only ordering a single item.

ericsims wrote:So......iPhone 4, yeah or nay?

This person says yeah:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R46ZWVLFVG4S4/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_1

fatdogreggie1 wrote:From Woot's description for this item:

"The included 30-pin cable is essential for syncing your iPhone or iPod with iTunes, and for charging via your computer or USB charger"

I know Woot is not infallible however, it looks like you can sync and charge via this cable.

Good catch (and to the others here); thanks--

Still a question if these will work with a 4th gen. touch, though ...

ajmxr9 wrote:This is my first woot order and am wondering if this is an error.

When purchasing this item for the 2-for tuesday I clicked on the "I want ONE" option and the packaging showed that I would be receiving 2 of the iphone charging packs. Once I placed my order and checked out it shows that I am only ordering a single item.

Thats because its Two for Tuesday, buddy.

Will this work with an Otterbox Defender case on an iPhone 3GS?

rufustel wrote:Actually, some USB cables will only work for power and not for data--I have 2 (unfortunately).

True, the manufacturers can save a penny by not including the other wires in the cable. I have found a few of these as well.

dustinsilva wrote:Thats because its Two for Tuesday, buddy.

What I figured it was just confusing that at one point it shows that I will get 2 while the next screen just 1.

Gatzby wrote:We only allow one purchase per account, per day in most circumstances. You can try emailing service@woot.com for assistance, or, you know... do something else. =)

haha, then something else it is! :p

thnx

rufustel wrote:Actually, some USB cables will only work for power and not for data--I have 2 (unfortunately).

quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Connector_types

Some devices will operate in different modes depending on whether the data connection is made. This difference in connection can be exploited by inserting the connector only partially. For example, some battery-powered MP3 players switch into file transfer mode and cannot play MP3 files while a USB plug is fully inserted, but can be operated in MP3 playback mode using USB power by inserting the plug only part way so that the power slots make contact while the data slots do not. This enables those devices to be operated in MP3 playback mode while getting power from the cable.

To reliably enable a charge-only feature, modern USB accessory peripherals now include charging cables that provide power connections to the host port but no data connections, and both home and vehicle charging docks are available that supply power from a converter device and do not include a host device and data pins, allowing any capable USB device to be charged and/or operated from a standard USB cable.

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Ha! you are right i figured a usb cable will do power or data only dependant on the peripheral, not the cable...learn something new everyday

sotiri wrote:only thing that i don't like about them is that the blue light on the chargers is VERY bright.

Sweet! Night lights for the kiddos!

Appreciate the feedback from all. I'm pretty sure that this will work with my 3rd gen iPod Touch. Worth the gamble, for as cheap as this is.

ajmxr9 wrote:This is my first woot order and am wondering if this is an error.

When purchasing this item for the 2-for tuesday I clicked on the "I want ONE" option and the packaging showed that I would be receiving 2 of the iphone charging packs. Once I placed my order and checked out it shows that I am only ordering a single item.

You will receive 2 packages. Had you ordered 2, you would have received 4 packages. The order status is showing the number of two-packs ordered. It's a tad confusing, but you're OK.

thaskaman wrote:quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Connector_types

Some devices will operate in different modes depending on whether the data connection is made. This difference in connection can be exploited by inserting the connector only partially. For example, some battery-powered MP3 players switch into file transfer mode and cannot play MP3 files while a USB plug is fully inserted, but can be operated in MP3 playback mode using USB power by inserting the plug only part way so that the power slots make contact while the data slots do not. This enables those devices to be operated in MP3 playback mode while getting power from the cable.

To reliably enable a charge-only feature, modern USB accessory peripherals now include charging cables that provide power connections to the host port but no data connections, and both home and vehicle charging docks are available that supply power from a converter device and do not include a host device and data pins, allowing any capable USB device to be charged and/or operated from a standard USB cable.

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Ha! you are right i figured a usb cable will do power or data only dependant on the peripheral, not the cable...learn something new everyday

I wish the power only cables would be banned--they don't cost manfs. any more than "regular" USB cables, and they only cause confusion.