fluffhead67


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IAreIsMe wrote:how are the cables?



Kinda cheap.....I bought two last go around.

but if you keep it in your trunk it'll do the job when you need it. Just don't expect it to last a life time.

mllewi1


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Got 1-800-AAA-HELP ... who needs anything else?

46 Woots-to-date since 11/05, including 3 Random Craps (WHY don't they send the @#$% BAG?!) PLUS A whole buncha Shirts!

roxannez


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The electrical tape is not a bad idea, as retro as it sounds. Some moron broke off the driver's side mirror on my friend's car, and she spent five bucks on a damned roll of electrical tape at a drug store. In the middle of a torrential rainstorm, she wasn't going to drive home without her mirror in useable condition, and the wrap job she did on the mirror actually held up for several days until she was able to get the mirror replaced. Just a thought.

renovation


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they might jump a start a lawnmower or golf cart once or twice . but a car you be waiting a long time to pass enough current across the the wires .if they dont burn up and melt first . and the hand tools i give to a child to repair a pair of roller skates. the gloves and empty case are worth about 2 bucks and only the gloves are worth using for pulling weeds out of your garden .

garyfmt


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Any one know the gauge of the wire ? Need to know that before I buyer it. Since it make a different.

scdowningco


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Be aware that all the nut drivers are metric. Won't fit well on many American made cars.

Camoli


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docthewoot wrote:Thanks for heads up that this is carp

I need some cables can anyone recommend a good set for not much loot ?
please


Here's one option:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=4119

zieken


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pkagel wrote:This is junk, gimmie a safety kit with triangle, 1st aid and such. What could I possibly fix on a modern car with this?



Totally agree. Try unclogging a fuel injector with a screwdriver . . .

However, this might be a good gift for the in-laws.

rslong


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roxannez wrote:The electrical tape is not a bad idea, as retro as it sounds. Some moron broke off the driver's side mirror on my friend's car, and she spent five bucks on a damned roll of electrical tape at a drug store. In the middle of a torrential rainstorm, she wasn't going to drive home without her mirror in useable condition, and the wrap job she did on the mirror actually held up for several days until she was able to get the mirror replaced. Just a thought.

Don't expect that little roll to hold a mirror on in a rainstorm, they would have been better to include some band-aids for the busted knuckles you'll get trying to use the cheap tools. Maybe toss a roll of duct tape in a tool bag with a battery cable cleaner and a small set of wrenches and a decent set of cables would be better.

docthewoot


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I just found this good info here:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm



I Can has a woot?......Please

rslong


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docthewoot wrote:Thanks for heads up that this is carp

I need some cables can anyone recommend a good set for not much loot ?
please


I hate to be the one to break it to you, you get what you pay for. Go to someplace like sears automotive and pick out the heaviest set that has strong clamps, they will last you a lifetime. Something at least 6ga. and preferably 4ga. stranded wire. Wire size increases as the gauge number decreases. Ampacity also increases with smaller gauge. A 6 ga. wire should handle about 60amps. and should cost more than $20 for a 12ft set. Now that should start some arguments. I'm just trying to help with ballpark numbers. Cheap sets will have thick insulation around small wire to make you think they are good.

docthewoot


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I Can has a woot?......Please

swissmr


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any item that counts the plastic case as a item and the gloves as two items little sketchy...........my 50 piece socket set isnt 51 including the case.

docthewoot


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rslong wrote:I hate to be the one to break it to you, you get what you pay for. Go to someplace like sears automotive and pick out the heaviest set that has strong clamps, they will last you a lifetime. Something at least 6ga. and preferably 4ga. stranded wire. Wire size increases as the gauge number decreases. Ampacity also increases with smaller gauge. A 6 ga. wire should handle about 60amps. and should cost more that $20 for a 12ft set. Now that should start some arguments. I'm just trying to help with ballpark numbers. Cheap sets will have thick insulation around small wire to make you think they are good.



I must agree, I am going to get a good 4ga pair, thanks!!!

I Can has a woot?......Please

eeneilson


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IAreIsMe wrote:how are the cables?



Junk

77 .woots
33 sellout.woots
10 shirt.woots
99% Satisfied

garyfmt


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eeneilson wrote:Junk

That is the same question that I have

kirbym9271


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Ahh, man. I wish I would have waited on this instead of buying the 32-piece I bought just yesterday.....llo.


Yes, I survived the April Fool's woot-off with "the woot we do not speak of" with no B.O.C to show for it.

neergmas


quality posts: 1 Private Messages neergmas

this is much more the kind of thing that someone who doesn't know you well buys you at walmart for christmas or your birthday or easter or something else festive.

Aka, it's not even a great gift for someone, especially if others are as unimpressed by it. Get yourself a fancy one with all the trimmings from Pep Boys (or a comperable retailer), or even one of those cool little tools that cuts seatbelts, and breaks windows and such, for super-emergency-my-car-is-sinking-in-a-bog-and-i-don't-want-to-be-found-by-the-police

nate79dawg


quality posts: 0 Private Messages nate79dawg

at least the sockets are metric
unless you own an old american made car
they could probly be used for removing the battery but not much else

andrelook


quality posts: 6 Private Messages andrelook

Here's a few tips:

If you keep this in your trunk and use it 1x every 3 years ... get some cat box absorbant
... the kind that is silica crystals.. They're about $6 for 4 lb or so.... you can use them
over and over plus they can work well all over the house.

Put a bunch in a nylon stocking.. and flatten it and put it inside the case of tools.

Why? - The silica gel will absorb moisture.
The clamps are copper plated steel and moisutre makes the copper just peel off.
While this won't ruin them from working you might as well keep them dry if you
can.

Plus moisture can cause the , possibly copper plated steel wire in the jumper cable..
disgusting huh that they'd use copper plated steel wire. but that's what's in cheap
Cat 5 cable .. and some wiring. It's sad.. but true. Moisture can cause this wire to
corrode badly up inside the casing near the clamp where you can't see it. Carry some
hot amps through it and they might melt. Better safe especially since you can dry out
the silica gel for 1 - 2 hours in a stove heated to about 300F - see wikipedia for details.

The tape - put it into a plastic bag and , silica gel , you can leave it loose or put it in
a tiny nylon carrier pouch made of nylons. Keep the tape dry or it will rot and cause
the adhesive to not work. What's the use of throwing away money? Plus you LEARN
something in the process. Most grocery stores have , sometimes they're blue , but
not always, silica gel cat box crystals.

The other parts / tools you can wipe down heavily with a good coating of either
regular motor oil, 3 in 1 oil, wd40 (not the best choice) and this will keep them
free of rust. If something is rusted then it will not fit where it should.

On the right , top , lid it looks like above the tape area and pliers area there is room
to cut .. with a hot hot hot knife heated on a stove a square where you can place
the nylon bag of silica gel. Don't cut out over the socket or they'll fall out when
the case is moved.

The price is OK. You can do better by buying better quality from Harbor Frieght
and putting everything in a small toolbox where you can keep MORE small tools
like a razor , a razor knife, spare blades.

If you don't have a cell phone ... you can buy one at the thrift store for $5 with charger.
Use it to dial 911.. Even if you have a 16 year old .. and don't want them to have a
cell phone at least buy them the $5 one. It will call the local Sheriff or Highway patrol
with 911 and they will gladly <=== transfer your call to your auto service. They don't
want stranded cars on the highway. So you get a free call and the cost is 0.00.

The best defense is a good offense. Keep your battery clean. Keep your car well
maintained by simply LOOKING at it. You'll spot trouble if you do this. Then
do something about it. Low tire? Fill it or you'll waste $100 or more plus save
a life if you flip your car when it blows.

Seat belts? wear them. We have lots of people here in Calif regularly die because
they were ejected from a car that has seat belts. Click and live. Except for them it
was better they didn't I suppose.

Gloves. It looks like they have some - But at Harbor Freight look at their Nitrile
Gloves in a size which fits you. They come in big sizes enough for a big hand.
And small hands. They're about 10c / pair in 100 pack. Worth every penny. Contact
dermatitis is real and you can't get rid of it. Chemicals and even just dirt and dust in
our chemical laden environment exacerbate skin conditions. Wear gloves. The nitrile
gloves, unlike latex, won't cause irritation and they last about 10x longer than any
latex glove. They can be washed, kept in a damp bag and will be good over and
over. They do not rot.

Flashlight. Use an LED , good, <=== flashlight with either lithium , like CR123 or
another lithium cell. Alkaline cells die in time. NiMH don't last more than 2 months
without a charge. Lithium cells are the only way to go. You can use an LED flashlight
for signalling if you're lost or need to let someone know you're on the side of the road.

Reflectors - you can make your own for $5 or so. Buy some regular reflectors for
bicycles or anything similar. Put it on any kind of strong magnet and you can either
attach it to your car - if it's not aluminum or plastic. Make plenty of them. If you
want to use your own flashlight to illuminate your own reflectors so cast a doubt in
the mind of a driver so that they slow down and don't squash you.

Or buy a nice set for $15 from any car store, less on sale and maybe less on Amazon.
They fold flat are light and work good. Or you can experiment with flashing RED
LEDs for bicycles. They DO work well if you get a good one. Try to get one that
uses lithium battery. CR123 or AA cells come in lithium now. Some are rechargable
and that is what I recommend you turn to in time when you're ready for the responsibilty
of keeping them charged up.

So while this box is a start .. it's mostly a warning.

1. It's not enough
2. It can be a start to the beginning of safety
3. Safety requires more than spending $10
4. It's a matter of thinking clearly , acting on it, and preparing for things you think up.

If in doubt contact AAA. Sometimes even if you're NOT a member they will help you
with gifts of things to keep you safer.

Ps. If you have to leave your car do not turn on the flashers. They will drain your
battery in 3 hours. You can't get anywhere and back in 3 hours. It' s better to get a
few bicycle flashers and put them in the window so no one steals them and use them
to signal to cars in the night that you have a vehicle beside the road. They will work
well enough.

Remember to get far off the road. Some people are drunk. They can kill you.
The best thing to do is be aware of your surroundings and the time. IF it's 2am
the bars are closing. People leaving had been drinking. If you're on the road
beware. Act as if someone is after you and stay as far away from them as possible
until things clear up.

Hey.. don't forget to enjoy your life.

malignifier


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boring boring boring. i want some high tech novelties. jumper cables are just BOORING.

docthewoot


quality posts: 0 Private Messages docthewoot

Best deal I could find for 4ga set is here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?keywords=4-Gauge+Booster+Cables++&rs=15684181&page=1&rh=n%3A15684181%2Ck%3A4-Gauge+Booster+Cables++&sort=price
Not bad for the $

I Can has a woot?......Please

docthewoot


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@andrelook

wow

I Can has a woot?......Please

mudman2007


quality posts: 2 Private Messages mudman2007

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Dorkmaster


quality posts: 3 Private Messages Dorkmaster

MoreBeer: I am curious how many wooters would actually get your "Scottish" reference...

I loved it though!

Also, I'm appalled (although not shocked) by the lack of grammar (on the internet? oh noes!) by not only the posters: "If I brake down," "jumper cable's," etc...

But Woot itself: "Gage" ugh.

Finally, to andrelook, I double the "wow." That was right on, but dude... wow.

beerbellybob


quality posts: 5 Private Messages beerbellybob

The problem with a cheap kit like this is that the cables are not thick enough to give a good charge from the other vehicle. You would be better off going to Sears and buying the best cables they have and your car will start withing the first couple of seconds.

beerbellybob


quality posts: 5 Private Messages beerbellybob
andrelook wrote:Here's a few tips:

If you keep this in your trunk and use it 1x every 3 years ... get some cat box absorbant
... the kind that is silica crystals.. They're about $6 for 4 lb or so.... you can use them
over and over plus they can work well all over the house.

Put a bunch in a nylon stocking.. and flatten it and put it inside the case of tools.

Why? - The silica gel will absorb moisture.
The clamps are copper plated steel and moisutre makes the copper just peel off.
While this won't ruin them from working you might as well keep them dry if you
can.

Plus moisture can cause the , possibly copper plated steel wire in the jumper cable..
disgusting huh that they'd use copper plated steel wire. but that's what's in cheap
Cat 5 cable .. and some wiring. It's sad.. but true. Moisture can cause this wire to
corrode badly up inside the casing near the clamp where you can't see it. Carry some
hot amps through it and they might melt. Better safe especially since you can dry out
the silica gel for 1 - 2 hours in a stove heated to about 300F - see wikipedia for details.

The tape - put it into a plastic bag and , silica gel , you can leave it loose or put it in
a tiny nylon carrier pouch made of nylons. Keep the tape dry or it will rot and cause
the adhesive to not work. What's the use of throwing away money? Plus you LEARN
something in the process. Most grocery stores have , sometimes they're blue , but
not always, silica gel cat box crystals.

The other parts / tools you can wipe down heavily with a good coating of either
regular motor oil, 3 in 1 oil, wd40 (not the best choice) and this will keep them
free of rust. If something is rusted then it will not fit where it should.

On the right , top , lid it looks like above the tape area and pliers area there is room
to cut .. with a hot hot hot knife heated on a stove a square where you can place
the nylon bag of silica gel. Don't cut out over the socket or they'll fall out when
the case is moved.

The price is OK. You can do better by buying better quality from Harbor Frieght
and putting everything in a small toolbox where you can keep MORE small tools
like a razor , a razor knife, spare blades.

If you don't have a cell phone ... you can buy one at the thrift store for $5 with charger.
Use it to dial 911.. Even if you have a 16 year old .. and don't want them to have a
cell phone at least buy them the $5 one. It will call the local Sheriff or Highway patrol
with 911 and they will gladly <=== transfer your call to your auto service. They don't
want stranded cars on the highway. So you get a free call and the cost is 0.00.

The best defense is a good offense. Keep your battery clean. Keep your car well
maintained by simply LOOKING at it. You'll spot trouble if you do this. Then
do something about it. Low tire? Fill it or you'll waste $100 or more plus save
a life if you flip your car when it blows.

Seat belts? wear them. We have lots of people here in Calif regularly die because
they were ejected from a car that has seat belts. Click and live. Except for them it
was better they didn't I suppose.

Gloves. It looks like they have some - But at Harbor Freight look at their Nitrile
Gloves in a size which fits you. They come in big sizes enough for a big hand.
And small hands. They're about 10c / pair in 100 pack. Worth every penny. Contact
dermatitis is real and you can't get rid of it. Chemicals and even just dirt and dust in
our chemical laden environment exacerbate skin conditions. Wear gloves. The nitrile
gloves, unlike latex, won't cause irritation and they last about 10x longer than any
latex glove. They can be washed, kept in a damp bag and will be good over and
over. They do not rot.

Flashlight. Use an LED , good, <=== flashlight with either lithium , like CR123 or
another lithium cell. Alkaline cells die in time. NiMH don't last more than 2 months
without a charge. Lithium cells are the only way to go. You can use an LED flashlight
for signalling if you're lost or need to let someone know you're on the side of the road.

Reflectors - you can make your own for $5 or so. Buy some regular reflectors for
bicycles or anything similar. Put it on any kind of strong magnet and you can either
attach it to your car - if it's not aluminum or plastic. Make plenty of them. If you
want to use your own flashlight to illuminate your own reflectors so cast a doubt in
the mind of a driver so that they slow down and don't squash you.

Or buy a nice set for $15 from any car store, less on sale and maybe less on Amazon.
They fold flat are light and work good. Or you can experiment with flashing RED
LEDs for bicycles. They DO work well if you get a good one. Try to get one that
uses lithium battery. CR123 or AA cells come in lithium now. Some are rechargable
and that is what I recommend you turn to in time when you're ready for the responsibilty
of keeping them charged up.

So while this box is a start .. it's mostly a warning.

1. It's not enough
2. It can be a start to the beginning of safety
3. Safety requires more than spending $10
4. It's a matter of thinking clearly , acting on it, and preparing for things you think up.

If in doubt contact AAA. Sometimes even if you're NOT a member they will help you
with gifts of things to keep you safer.

Ps. If you have to leave your car do not turn on the flashers. They will drain your
battery in 3 hours. You can't get anywhere and back in 3 hours. It' s better to get a
few bicycle flashers and put them in the window so no one steals them and use them
to signal to cars in the night that you have a vehicle beside the road. They will work
well enough.

Remember to get far off the road. Some people are drunk. They can kill you.
The best thing to do is be aware of your surroundings and the time. IF it's 2am
the bars are closing. People leaving had been drinking. If you're on the road
beware. Act as if someone is after you and stay as far away from them as possible
until things clear up.

Hey.. don't forget to enjoy your life.



How can I enjoy my life if I'm getting all the carp you recommend to keep in my trunk. Make enough money so you don't have a P O S car and you won't have any problems.

kbarland


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DON'T BUY!!! Jumper cables do not work. They are thinner than speaker wire. False sense of security. Very Very Crappy!!!

cosmo261


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This one won't be a sell out!...You can get the same or better kit for free from most Insurance Companies....AAA..Sate Farm..Allstate..AARP!

TOMDOX


quality posts: 1 Private Messages TOMDOX
digitalmonkeyman wrote:What Gauge are the jumper cables?



Gauge? HO is better. Complete S**T... Buyer Beware..

TOMDOX


quality posts: 1 Private Messages TOMDOX
digitalmonkeyman wrote:What Gauge are the jumper cables?



Gauge? HO is better. Complete S**T... Buyer Beware..

somnambulator


quality posts: 1 Private Messages somnambulator

get whatcha pay for...
the jumper cables might be able to jump a Prius on a warm day
the pliers feel like theyre about to break (never used em)
even the elctrical tape is probably 10 for $1 at the dollar store.

i didnt expect much from this for $13, but it was actually less than i'd hoped for.

susie905


quality posts: 0 Private Messages susie905

I bought two last time. They are worth it.

dyingpanda


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dyingpanda

you could also make ur own jumper cables. u can easily get the gauge of wire u want from most home improvement stores and i have seen the clamps for sale also with the rubber coating. saves u even more money on jumper cables.

also pick um some pipe clearners. the kind u use to clean the ends of copper pipe before u soldier it and u can use these on ur battery terminals if they get corroded.

barry1214


quality posts: 0 Private Messages barry1214

I bought the best cables Sears had. Came in a plastic case. Clamps were real copper. The biggest advantages I got were: 1-they were like 16 feet long and I could jump from or to a car behind me. (short cables mean you'd better be parked with your front end accesible) 2- they stayed flexible in sub-zero weather and in New England I was sure glad about that.(try extending or winding back up the plastic ones in the cold when the most dead batteries show up.) 3- this investment lasted me many years and even tho I didn't have a P O S car I helped a lot of people. Now if I could just get them out of storage and back in the car it might mean something.

rebeltag


quality posts: 1 Private Messages rebeltag

Bought three last time these were on sellout...

They are ABSOLUTE C®AP and this woot is a pass...

vlkswiggin75


quality posts: 0 Private Messages vlkswiggin75

I bought one last time. it works fine. the tools are fine - yes theyr cheap but if you get stuck in a jam and know what your doing its got everything you need to fix something. IF you know what to do with them - people who use the cables as tiedowns will be disappointed because its not made for that. i actually used the pliers once to unfreeze my solenoid and its fine.

if you want indestructible tools carry your 2000 snapon toolbox in your trunk if you can fit it.

its for emergencies ppl, not every day use. like the jump cables - if your gonna use em every day buy something else. i dont leave my lights on every day so they work great - used em twice, no problems. too short? push the car... its not that hard. they are made to carry current just in case you cant push start the car yourself.

once i got in a jam and used the kit as a wheel chock. it got dented but stopped my car from rolling off the jack. so in my opinion its gone above and beyond.

no issues - works fine - well worth it

dyingpanda


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dyingpanda
vlkswiggin75 wrote:I bought one last time. it works fine. the tools are fine - yes theyr cheap but if you get stuck in a jam and know what your doing its got everything you need to fix something. IF you know what to do with them - people who use the cables as tiedowns will be disappointed because its not made for that. i actually used the pliers once to unfreeze my solenoid and its fine.

if you want indestructible tools carry your 2000 snapon toolbox in your trunk if you can fit it.

its for emergencies ppl, not every day use. like the jump cables - if your gonna use em every day buy something else. i dont leave my lights on every day so they work great - used em twice, no problems. too short? push the car... its not that hard. they are made to carry current just in case you cant push start the car yourself.

once i got in a jam and used the kit as a wheel chock. it got dented but stopped my car from rolling off the jack. so in my opinion its gone above and beyond.

no issues - works fine - well worth it



what is the gauge of the jumper cables though

drakoniac


quality posts: 0 Private Messages drakoniac

did you guys rob a hardware store? ;)

whipitgood


quality posts: 0 Private Messages whipitgood

This is so ironic, my car just died tonight, like kicked the bucket.