I highly recommend not purchasing this product. I went through 3 of them within 4 months... The good news is that customer support was very good. They didn't challenge me at all on any of the returns and they paid for shipping back. However, they wouldn't ship it to me unless they had the old one returned. Which meant they probably would have died sooner...

#1: The display just stopped working altogether
#2: The display indicated it was charged, but it wouldn't play
#3: Just died after 1 week of use

does this one allow you to organize your music, or is it just the shuffle play mode?

I bought a Sansa E250 in September of 06' and haven't had a single problem with it. firmware upgrades were few, but I slapped Rockbox on that sucker as soon as it was released and have been very happy with it.

I did find a Sansa Clip player at a pawn shop and always wanted to try it out. Paid $18 dollars for a 1 Gig version as it didn't have the "clip" part. I was amazed at the quality of the sound! That and the fact that I can drop it into my shirt pocket and not feel any considerable weight.

I did have a small question about the description on the page for this Woot. It says that the Clip handles "Music, PHOTOS and data files.." (Caps mine) - I am thinking whomever wrote it was maybe thinking that the player could be used to STORE these types of files? The clip I have does not have a photo viewing ability. Just a minor thing really.

Thanks very much for the great deal on this player! I have had many brands and models through the years and Sansa has been the best performer in my opinion. I'm looking forward to the increased storage capacity for my daily bike commute!!

giorgitd wrote:Anyone know if the control buttons click or are silent when pressed? I have a SanDisk m240, but the buttons have a mechanical click sound that drives my wife crazy when I use it at night...

Wow ... your wife sounds like a b! ... very nice lady ... yes, that's what I was going to say ... a very nice lady who reminds me why I'm single

shelly112245 wrote:does this one allow you to organize your music, or is it just the shuffle play mode?

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you can even create playlists on the computer or "GoList" with the player itself.

playing music: Select Artists, Albums, Songs, Genres, Playlists, Recordings (Voice),
Audiobooks, and Music Options.

I have had many MP3 players, My 2gb Clip is the best I have had.
Only one that's better The 4gb Clip.

My first Woot!

Got it cause I HATE arm banded MP3 players when running. Anyhoo, woot!

giorgitd wrote:Anyone know if the control buttons click or are silent when pressed? I have a SanDisk m240, but the buttons have a mechanical click sound that drives my wife crazy when I use it at night...

There is a way to "mod" this so the scroll wheel turns smoothly. Go to the Anythingbutipod website and in the Sansa E250 forums under "Hacks and Mods" there is a posting entitled "How to make your clickwheel smooth in 10 easy steps!"

I hope this helps a bit.

MMMMusic wrote:Can someone give me their thoughts on this Rockbox firmware? I'm reading about it right now and I want to hear what people with experience with it think about using it. I'm considering getting an old iPod nano or something just to use it, especially when a good deal for one shows up her at Woot.

So what's the big deal about it? What do you like/dislike about it? I'm a hardcore audiophile, so how would this benefit my strict tastes in quality? Anything you can give me would be appreciated. Gracias.

The biggest advantage of Rockbox for you would probably be FLAC support. Of course, this only matters if the rockboxable DAP you're using has good quality hardware (for instance, the e200 probably isn't an audiophile's player, given the flash access noise).

mudman2007 wrote:hmmmm,why bother...an lp record on a decent stereo will totally blow away any codec digital format.I personally can't listen to mp3,it totally destroys the music.
Compression=missing music,plain and simple

mudman2007 wrote:if you are an audiophile,why would use listen to codecs in any form?:D

FLAC is a codec too, you know, if you can sully your ears by listening to digital instead of analog.
And these clips support Ogg Vorbis, so you could encode to q10 Vorbis (500kbps nominal VBR, compared to mp3's 320kbps max CBR). I somehow doubt that even most audiophiles could ABX that, especially on the go with a portable.

I normally wouldn't suggest q10 Vorbis, given that it's only a relatively small filesize jump to go for fullblown lossless, but when lossless isn't supported, and your ears (due to training and good equipment or just a really powerful placebo effect) need the quality...

giantcrazy wrote:No, and from the looks of it, it's not going to be supported anytime soon, due to the small display on the clip:

http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=8583

Dang. My wife recently wrecked a cheapo Nano, and I was going to pick this up as a replacement if it supported Rockbox.

Heh. Rockbox is very much text-based menu-driven. I would think that it would just mean lots of extra scrolling and a very cramped while-playing screen. And, anyway, Rockbox has the possibility of a voice 'display' for the blind and visually impaired, so I doubt the screen size is the actual issue.

According to this forum post (by a developer) there might be other hardware reasons for the Clip not being supported by Rockbox.

On the other hand, with Ogg Vorbis support in the OF updates, Rockbox isn't quite so necessary (for me, at any rate).

thewilldog wrote:Can anyone comment on the build quality of these vs the Sansa e250? I've had multiple headphone jack issues with those. I bought a Sansa e250 off woot (respiffied) and after 60 days the right channel stopped playing music. Woot sent me a replacement, but after 60 days that one stopped playing music on either channel unless I press down on the headphone jack juuuuuuust right. It vacuums, because otherwise they're nice players. But the whole situation has made me wary of Sansa built players.

AFAIK, that's just a problem with the e200 line. To salvage it, I'd suggest rockboxing it (assuming it's an e250v1 or e250R) and setting it to mono so that you can get both ears' audio in that one side. (Settings > Sound Settings > Channel Configuration) Either that or see if a little DIY solder job will help.

griggster wrote:How do I get the Sansa to play ACC files? I put them on it, but it doesn't recognize it. Also, rockbox doesn't work on MAC, nor does the sansa firmware updater. I don't know which I should use.

For the e200 and c200 (v1) Sansas, Rockbox will play non-DRM-infected AAC. These Clips, however don't have Rockbox ported to them.

As for Rockbox working with Macs, it really should, since (on the Sansa e200 and c200, at least) it just uses the original firmware for transferring files, which means that you can just use UMS/MSC mode and treat it like a normal USB Mass Storage device.

woode wrote:Can't someone make one of these with AM? (yeah, I like talk radio... what of it).

AM antennas are a lot bigger than FM antennas (read: require more than just a decent-length headphone cord). If they don't try to fit one in the larger e200 line, I highly doubt they'd try to fit one in the tiny Clip.

Hey! Do I get the text?

"You get one Sansa player and the attached clip, not our little man or his gun or goggles or hat or that other player."

Kizzbot wrote:Question:

Charges via USB only?

all charge usb only unless you go buy wall charger, no mp3 player comes with one

2 for me

giorgitd wrote:Anyone know if the control buttons click or are silent when pressed? I have a SanDisk m240, but the buttons have a mechanical click sound that drives my wife crazy when I use it at night...

I own this very model. I absolutely love it, but the buttons DO click when you press them.

I just hope the same guys who "refurbished" the 4g Sansa I just got on woot did NOT work on these babies. That 4g is messed up!!!!!!

I have this little device. It's great. True--no removable battery and no micro SD slot but it's designed to be ultraportable and light. Perfect for gym and exercise. And the sound is incredible--read the reviews everywhere. This is a steal.

In for 3. They will serve as "throwaways" when I go travel overseas...

question.. i recently bought that sansa-integrated alarm clock. does this have a dock in the bottom for that?

doesnt look like it does but hey, if worse comes to worse i can just use the headphone jack-to-headphone jack cable and use it that way.

right now my options are this, save for an ipod touch, or buy a bigger card for my blackberry (rather not though, as it adds wear and tear and i dont want to take a new bb to the gym) so this is looking pretty good

mudman2007 wrote:hmmmm,why bother...an lp record on a decent stereo will totally blow away any
codec digital format.I personally can't listen to mp3,it totally destroys the music.
Compression=missing music,plain and simple

Anyone know of a good cordless lp record player and stereo that will fit in to the overhead bin of an airplane?
I'd hate to miss out on that great lp...lp...lp...lp...lp...bump...quality!

I got one of these via a WootOff a while back. For what it is - very light, very inconspicuous, very small - it does its job well. One added bonus - the clip it comes with is pretty "tight" - it does a good job of staying clipped to whatever piece of garment (e.g. sleeve, etc.) that you clip it to ...

does this mp3 player have any sort of clock on it?

davisdenyel wrote:I just ordered 3. I guess a couple can be gifts. I also just ordered the Sansa SanDisk m250 MP3 player. Does anyone know which MP3 player is better the clip or the m250? The Mp3 players are all new to me never had one before. So I want to keep the better one and give the others away as gifts. I know my 9 year old son has been asking for one for a year now. So he will be getting one llo.

The m250 may or may not have odd firmware, that you can't upgrade. By odd, I mean after 18 minutes of a podcast/audiobook/song, fast-forward then goes to the next song. And resume doesn't work. And yet other m250s work as expected. It's hit or miss which you'll get. (This problem won't matter if you just listen to 4-minute songs.) Here is the Sandisk Forum discussion: http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=m200&thread.id=1970
My m230s and m240s have been very reliable. One m240 has the problem mentioned above.

Some Clips have battery/discharge problems (http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=905), again, it's hit or miss which you'll get. With the Clip firmware update, they have much better firmware for listening to audiobooks and podcasts, resuming any and all such at the point where you last listened. Reportedly, the Clip has better sound quality.

picked one up for my gf - she'll be happy with it

RichnPlenty wrote:I highly recommend not purchasing this product. I went through 3 of them within 4 months... The good news is that customer support was very good. They didn't challenge me at all on any of the returns and they paid for shipping back. However, they wouldn't ship it to me unless they had the old one returned. Which meant they probably would have died sooner...

#1: The display just stopped working altogether
#2: The display indicated it was charged, but it wouldn't play
#3: Just died after 1 week of use

Rich, I don't know how you use your mp3 players but I bought mine for $40 at Best Buy last Black Friday and it still works like a charm (even after I accidentally washed it in the washing machine, got lint stuck in the display and the buttons AND dropped it a few times). I just love Sansa products in general; they are so durable.

• To the person above: There is no dock, only a USB slot and a headphone output slot.
  
• The audio quality is in fact really good, There's also a built in equalizer as well as the ability to delete songs you no longer want and add songs to Go List. I think you can also rate the songs with stars, but I don't use that feature.
  
• You can just drag and drop files into the player since it works like a thumb drive.
  
• Don't get discouraged by the internal battery. This thing charges pretty fast and lasts 8 hours. I love the battery life on this.
  
• I like the radio as well. FM only.
  
• The sleep function works well, too.
  
• This thing looks sleek. People have told me it looks cool and have asked me if it's some new clip version of an iPod.
  
  Some small annoyances:
  
• To answer someone's question: Yes the buttons somewhat make clicky noises. Too bad for you and your wife.
  
• It gets lost easily since it's so small. Really light so be careful. It might fling out of your pocket.
  
• The labeling on the buttons wear off easily. Mine's all faded out now.
  

meh, decided just to order one anyway *giggles* if i dont like it to craigslist/a friend it goes..

second woot! and both were sandisk products at that!

Well on my way to becoming additcted to WOOT...bought one item and now everyday I am tempted to buy another.
Put me down for one of these!

Just ordered 3 of em. I m new to woot. Whats the shipping like? Do they ship stuff out in a timely manner? Am I looking at 2 weeks of waiting or whats the deal?

It feels strange to pass on a Sansa mp3 player. But the lack of the microSD slot prevents me from pulling the trigger.

just bought 3 of these, due in no small part because of my experience owning sandisk respiffied from woot. the 1 g and 512mb for my kids including this 3 that would make 7. good buy new cost $ 59. I won't feel bad if the kids leave them in the pants and my wife accidentally washes it , like my ruined I-pod.

First woot!

stewy0327 wrote:all charge usb only unless you go buy wall charger, no mp3 player comes with one

My Creative Zen came with a wall charger (and I can use it to charge up the Clip)

My hubby got me this for Christmas last year and it is the BEST small/workout mp3 player I have come across. So small, so great! A few things in response to other comments:

-It only COMES with e USB charger, but I charge it using my cell phone wall charger all the time (it's just a standard mini-USB).

-True, it doesn't have an SD slot. But this isn't really made to be a mass storage mp3 player that replaces your current - it's just perfect for working out!

Dude! Since when did Woot start selling Sansa's! That's so awesome!

In for 4!

I have the 1gb one, and it's awesome, couldn't pass this up.

My husband & I both have one of these since Black Friday last year too. Paid $30 for each. Our boys have an older version of Sansa with a much lower memory so i ordered two for Christmas gifts.

I got a Sandisk Sansa M240 1GB MP3 Player with FM Tuner a while back, I loved it, worked great until I lost it last spring(ish), didn't matter much cause I didn't have much use for it because I work too much during the summer. But I miss it in any case:-P, hopefully this will be as good to me now that I am back at college, I particularly like the fm feature, I find it useful in a lot of applications and like to listen to random songs on the radio. I don't understand why people are so crazy about the ipods, I like these much more. Hopefully my other sansa will show up, but until then I got two of these:-), one for me and one for my girlfriend for her birthday.

_Justin S

p.s. this was mostly to check my little box, waiting to get up to the next color8-) wish I had more money, I would buy a lot more stuff off here O:-).
Any one miss the last woot off like me? I would have liked to have gotten that hand massager. Maybe woot can bring it back and encourage me to upgrade my box color.:-D

The 4 gig player I bought last week doesn't work. It skips like a bad record. I hope Woot stands by it's 90 day warrantee. So far, they haven't answered my email. To bad it's broken. I like it.

stewy0327 wrote:all charge usb only unless you go buy wall charger, no mp3 player comes with one

the Sandisk Sansa M240 1GB MP3 Player with FM Tuner that I got used one AAA battery, light, and lasted a surprisingly long time, in that case no need to charge:-P unless you want to instead of buying new aaa's8-)

_Justin S

yes, I have one of these and I love it. Excellent battery life, has like 150 programmable FM radio stations, great for jogging. Clip can be detatched if you don't want it. And it is tiny.

How crazy I was just about to buy the red version of this for 50 bucks and it just so happens to be here on Woot for half that?!? Awesome!

Hello everybody.

My name is Bjoot and I am an mp3oholic.

I don't even use one most of the time, but when I see them I have to buy them.

I bought one of the first RIO players, which held a whopping 64 MB RAM or so, and downloaded music via paralell port. Only held about a couple of CDs worth, so it was pretty male.

I never ever bought apple, as I am a cheapskate, My wife bought herself one of the first 5 GB ipods, whic cost 500 bucsk or something crazy. She still uses it, but only in the car, as the battery is long since dead. I have bought pretty much every sansa there is. I bought the ROI carbon that looked sweet, but broke down after only a week. I have a creative muvo, which is really nice. E280, that I paid $150 for, now you can get them for 50. I got a 4 GB clip at $50. Sweet. I have a couple of sansa's I never even opened.

I think I will have to hand them to Santa, but it is hard. I might need them one day if I decide to listen to music.

I have no other addiciton. I quit cigs. Beer; I can take it or leave it. I am a little addicted to digital cameras, but that's OK, because my mother always get camera envy so I often end up selling my latest camera to her, and I get myself a new one.

I am also addicted to bandoliers of carrots, but so far the addiction has not resulted in any encounters with such.

Believe me, I really had to contain myself not to get this 2 GB clip, even tho I already have a 4 GB clip that I rarely use.