ktappe wrote:I'm really curious where these came from. The description goes out of its way to say they are not reissues or remasters, so that implies they were pressed back in the 70's? Where on earth have they been stored all this time? Or are these new pressings? But if they are, how is that not a reissue? Inquiring minds want to know.

I seem to recall that the label (Ovation Records, a smallish suburban Chicago independent) so wildly overestimated the demand for this set that they literally choked to death on unsold records and went out of business as a direct result of this release. This album was available through cutout record dealers, remainder book catalogs, and the like for years...looks like they never got rid of all of them.

should be a great gift for my girl

derrrface wrote:Step 1: Buy (EVERY) Record
Step 2: Sell Records
Step 3: Profit?????

Yeah!!! I'm sure nobody on this site ever heard of ebay. Could make a fortune!!! LOL!!!

They should have mousersizing in this collection.

The four-album boxed set, also sold in stores without the bonus Mickey LP, featured medleys of Disney soundtracks (except "Alice in Wonderland," because would not be licensed as a soundtrack until Randy produced the CD in the 90's -- thanks again Randy!). The medleys came directly from the film tracks and were thus different from the Disneyland/Vista records available at the same time in the late 70s. It also included some of the 40s animation stuff and extended Rescuers tracks. The only music it took from other released records was most of the theme park stuff.

http://www.magicmusic.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t3856.html

OnyxFound wrote:My mom is a huge Disney collector. This is just in time for Mother's Day... and cheap, too.

My sister is a huge fan too and actually has an old turn table! She'll probably keep it as collectors piece though. Thanks WOOT! Perfect Mother's day gift for sis!

True garbage. So Woot has hit bottom.

Maybe you can sell pieces of Walt's head, I haer it is still frozen.

I used to listen to records like this as a kid. Read the description and it all made sense...these are as old as I am!

I once had a dog named Micky and a friend named Goofy...but don't tell Cindy down the street.

Excellent Woot! I'm in for one. Gives me a perfect excuse to drag my turntable (80's vintage Techniques SL-D2 no less) out of of the closet.


Still turning a 33 1/3 in an MP3 world.

Throdo wrote:I checked sellout.woot.com, but there is no record player there like it says on the pic on the main page. Can someone link me to the record player, or is that a mistake?

It's not at woot.com, it's at sellout.woot.com, which sends you to http://shopping.yahoo.com/#woot. It's there; $59.95+$5 shipping. Interesting, because BJ's has these for $89.95.

I too am a big fan of Disney vinyl. You can find my site at MouseVinyl.com.

• Yes they had stereo records in 1978
  
• Yes the Disney songs are often VERY short
  
• Yes, Records can have more frequency range than a CD. Most turntable cartridges only go from 20 to 20000hz, but if you spend a little more you can get them to 60000hz +. CD's are only 44100hz.
  

susanelectro wrote:In for one. I've got a kid coming in July. Seems like a great way to introduce him to vinyl.

Buy two; one for him to listen to (and destroy in the process) and one to have for later.

Kids + vinyl don't mix; he will destroy both the vinyl and the stylus/needle in the turntable.

So I love Disney but I already have this set on 8-track and I have a working 8-track player. Should I save the money or upgrade!?!

For those of you harping on about these being valuable collectors items...
you should know these particular records will double in value...in about 2 centuries. I guess if your wanting to plan ahead four or five generations....

I used to buy records starting at age 5 and now I am older than dirt. I have HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of records. I have an awesome turntable I bought many years ago and just had it serviced and the technician said to hang on to it, it was a jewel. I really enjoy playing my records, 45's and 8 Track (have 8-track player too). I am tempted but not into Disney that much so might pass on this one. But someone wrote vinyls are costing much more, so does that mean I am sitting on a bunch of money?

does anyone know if these are digital or analog? records were originally analog but the new records being produced are digital.

superdave913 wrote:I too am a big fan of Disney vinyl. You can find my site at MouseVinyl.com.

• Yes they had stereo records in 1978
  
• Yes the Disney songs are often VERY short
  
• Yes, Records can have more frequency range than a CD. Most turntable cartridges only go from 20 to 20000hz, but if you spend a little more you can get them to 60000hz +. CD's are only 44100hz.
  

Sorry, but you just made the mathematician part of me cringe. From the Nyquist-Shannon Theorem, to represent a waveform with a frequency of x Hz, you need to take 2x samples per second. A CD uses 44100 samples per second, giving it a frequency range up to half that: 22050Hz.

This is great if i had a record player!!!

Shoot, I was hoping they'd have it in 8 track!

jrbelle wrote:
I bought 3 for the collectible value. If some of you were smart, you would read the posts about resale value, buy 3 & resell them 'cause Disney collectors prize this kind of thing. You are so missing the boat. I would not sell my 3 for anything (the same for the rest of my Disney collection that would rival anyones) but I may see if I can get someone else to buy 3 for me to sell on EBay or something. Originals like this are worth a small fortune and will appreciate in value.

I hope you aren't serious. These really don't qualify as collector's items (unless you feel that everything that is out-of-print or older than X years is a "collector's item"). These aren't first printings of the songs and I highly doubt there's anything on the album that you can't find in higher quality from other sources. Also, there are a number of copies of this particular album listed on ebay right now that aren't selling.

Buy these only if you really prefer vinyl and you really want this particular set of Disney songs *to listen to*. Don't kid yourself; you aren't going to make a profit on this set. Like most other LPs, it'll eventually end up in the "10 cent" bin at a yardsale or in the landfill.

Zennith console. This is what you need to listen to records on. The 12" bass speakers vibrate the whole house and I've never played it full volume. Makes a nice TV stand too.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/PicPerfec/10Apr2009_0486.jpg

sportscars wrote:Vinyl Does sound better than CD's (for the most part). Too much sound quality lost due to compression.

With all due respect, I think that's BS.

First, there is no compression on a CD. NONE. CDs are not MP3's, they are TOTALLY uncompressed.

Second, I don't agree (and I am an Electronics engineer who worked as an FCC licensed Broadcast Engineer in the 1960's in radio stations, and who fully understands both technologies) that vinyl sounds better at all.

Third, even if a NEW, PRISTINE vinyl record did sound better ... vinyl is a physical media that is destroyed a tiny bit (or, sometimes, a LOT) every single time it is played.

Those of you who wax poetically (pun intended) for vinyl are probably mostly too young to remember the realities. When CDs came out, they KILLED VINYL DEAD within 2 years. That was after 50 years of an all-vinyl infrastructure where the entire population had vinyl records, and vinyl equipment. For it to have dies so universally, so quickly, in spite of the massively entrenched infrastructure of the music firms, the distribution channels and the consumers, there had to be a really good reason. And there was: Vinyl is VASTLY inferior to CDs.

gigemags wrote:I bought a JT (Johnny Tremain) DVD last month or two from Deep Discount DVD when they had them on sale for 4 or 5.99
http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5740920
It back to 9.99 now.

I have a VHS tape and I have extracted the music from it, but the tape (not my tape but Disney's masters used for retail reproduction) has a huge problem ... the low-fi analog audio track is fine (but VERY low fidelity, no highs at all), but the VHS Hi-Fi track has severe distortion. I have not tried the CD. If you manage to digitize the main song (starting on the ship at the Boston Tea Party, the music starts about 30 seconds before the guy says "Good Night, Captain"), I'd like to get it from you. Watzman at neo dot rr dot com.

celedhring wrote:Since 4 LPs can't hold much time, safest bet is that they are medleys from all those soundtracks. It was done quite often back in the time.

4 LP's is 8 sides of about 20 to 30 minutes each. It could be up to 4 hours, which could be as much as 160 songs, although it could also be as few as about 50 or so.

mackosh wrote:It would have been "reprocessed" in 1978. The source movies / cartoons would have been mono. Even by then, most movies (and theaters) were still mono sound.

No, wrong. Stereo came out in the late 1950's, and by the mid/late 1960's pretty much everything and all NEW material was stereo. BUT, much of this material goes back to the 1930's, 1940's and 1950's, and so was originally mono. On the other hand, "Mary Poppins" was a 1964 movie, and was recorded originally in Stereo, and pretty much all movie theaters were stereo by that time.

For all of you who are thinking "I remember back in the day when CD's were big and floppy and such," I wasn't around then so I need some help please.

Of course I wooted. You could post a Disney bag of air and I'd be all about it. However, I do not own a record player and am thinking about getting one. I saw the one on sellout- looks a little too modern for me- Im thinking about going old school- any ideas of where I can find one? Thanks.

rogueofmv wrote:By compression, he's probably referring to the method of increasing loudness on the tracks before mastering them to CDs and digital files. The extra loudness creates clipping of elements that stood out over other elements in the song before mastering, which can result in more defined vocals, but much, much flatter drum sections.

That is not unique to digital or CD recording, and goes back to the 50's and 60's. And it embrangles. The worst case of that which is highly prominent is the Jackie DeShannon song "Put a Little Love in Your Heart". It is compressed TO DEATH, actually ruined, by the compression. A look at that song on an oscilloscope (or an oscilloscope display in an audio editor) is enough to make you puke. It is clipped, limited and compressed TO DEATH, absolutely ruined. I did manage to find one version that is slightly less ruined, but the common version is terrible.

utterly cool, stuff of memory

zplyonz wrote:
What troubles me about this Woot is the "Processed for Stereo" label. This means that before mastering they put the signal through a crappy filter to push the high frequencies out the left channel and the low frequencies out the right one, to remind people they have two speakers. It sounds like the proverbial haunch region, and in audio circles is a big no no.

I agree with your conclusion (mono should have been left mono), but conversion of mono to simulated stereo is done in many different ways and is usually far better and more sophisticated than simple frequency filtering (although not always, and I'm not saying that it's ever really good).

However, while much of this material is old and mono, probably almost half of it was originally recorded in "real" stereo.

vsuhr wrote:does anyone know if these are digital or analog? records were originally analog but the new records being produced are digital.

These records were manufactured in 1978.

BAWatz wrote:With all due respect, I think that's BS.

First, there is no compression on a CD. NONE. CDs are not MP3's, they are TOTALLY uncompressed.

Second, I don't agree (and I am an Electronics engineer who worked as an FCC licensed Broadcast Engineer in the 1960's in radio stations, and who fully understands both technologies) that vinyl sounds better at all.

Third, even if a NEW, PRISTINE vinyl record did sound better ... vinyl is a physical media that is destroyed a tiny bit (or, sometimes, a LOT) every single time it is played.

Those of you who wax poetically (pun intended) for vinyl are probably mostly too young to remember the realities. When CDs came out, they KILLED VINYL DEAD within 2 years. That was after 50 years of an all-vinyl infrastructure where the entire population had vinyl records, and vinyl equipment. For it to have dies so universally, so quickly, in spite of the massively entrenched infrastructure of the music firms, the distribution channels and the consumers, there had to be a really good reason. And there was: Vinyl is VASTLY inferior to CDs.

Many years later, recording engineers started trying to make each CD louder than the last, working from a theory that louder sounds better. They do this using dynamic compression (there's that pesky word you falsely claim doesn't happen with CDs) to make the quiet parts louder in relation to the lound parts, among other processing. These crappy-sounding new "loudness war" era CDs are vastly inferior to vinyl, which is usually properly mastered.

But don't just take my word for it:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17777619/the_death_of_high_fidelity
http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/11/whats-the-loudness-war/

By the way: I'm 42 years old, own thousands of CDs and hundreds of LPs & 12" singles, worked in college radio in the 80s when CDs were starting to replace records in the US, and just bought two copies of this Disney box set.

Gramlich wrote:Shoot, I was hoping they'd have it in 8 track!

You'll want to see this listing on eBay for the same set in 8-track:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-magical-music-of-disneyBOX-SET-OF-8-TRACK-TAPES_W0QQitemZ190249024880QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item190249024880&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

DeeDee4 wrote:I used to buy records starting at age 5 and now I am older than dirt. I have HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of records. I have an awesome turntable I bought many years ago and just had it serviced and the technician said to hang on to it, it was a jewel. I really enjoy playing my records, 45's and 8 Track (have 8-track player too). I am tempted but not into Disney that much so might pass on this one. But someone wrote vinyls are costing much more, so does that mean I am sitting on a bunch of money?

It depends on what you have and what condition they are in. If you have an original Beatles-The White Album, thats worth a nice sum. Depending on condition and such. Im sure there are plenty of places online to price records.

I'm waiting for the Itchy and Scratchy collection. I hope it gets released on varnished piano rolls or some other medium that is cutting edge.

sunny57 wrote:Click on the picture, Yahoo lags by about 30 min.

Interesting that the picture and front page lag, but if you click on the picture/title at 1 or 2 minutes after the new woot.com offer, the sellout.woot.com redirect is already updated to the new sellout.woot. Wootalyzer will also show you the updated/new item.

It's weird that woot has their part working but yahoo doesn't get updated for a long time. That and poor support for smart phones makes the sellout.woot site something I visit much less, which is why I'm sure it isn't selling near as much stuff as Yahoo thought it would...

its kinda cool to flash back every now and then. im in for 1

thank u WOOT! We r so freakin' happy with this one. Don't call us old, but we used 2 listen 2 these very same records as kids. just seeing them brought back memories of the good 'ol days. we r so pathetic we still have our record player - and our vinyl. ok, old fogies signing off now....thanks again!

anyone who won't listen to records is stupid!! you just cannot get the same feel on any digital source