It's actually a pretty good price...even for a refurb. A refurb TV is usually not a big deal. Cosmetic damage in shipping is a common reason for them to be 'returned'..and 'refurbed'.

Newegg has them for only $30 more, and it doesn't say they are refurbished. Dunno...

The next nearest competitor is way and above though. Hell, Wal-Mart is selling it new for $1,600.

I don't love Phillips, but they are like a Panasonic camcorder. Everyone loves the Canon or the Sony while Panasonic quietly outdoes them just to grab some market share from the two 900 pound gorillas in the room who rush their junk out so fast to try and stay on top that they are becoming unreliable at best.

Just my opinion though. ;-) I wonder how much of my ramble the filters will annihilate.

digbydriver wrote:This is great. A gigantic screen that you can hang on your wall high enough so that all who drive by your house can see what you are watching. You can see ... video of the latest murder in your neighborhood, described by [a news anchor]...

I would definitely not get this tv if I lived in a neighborhood with frequent crimes. Especially if my living room was visible from the road. That's just a bad idea.

JESBUS wrote:nvm wrong here is the newegg link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889104131

I think the newegg one is a recertified egg.

I have the same television set at home, and I would most definitely recommend picking up this woot... if the cost was more reasonable. I got mine brand new for nearly the same price.

I've seen this same refurbished model on another site for $100 more... Not much of a deal...

koticphreak wrote:who the f wants a plasma?! there's a reason they're $899

A Panny plasma kicks the scaffolding out of ANY Philips LCD. What planet do you live on?

Arthiefufkin wrote:Philips is teh suck. I've owned a remote control, a mini-system, and a TV from Philips and all have broken within one year. Never again with that brand.

I've had better luck. While I've never had a Philips tv, I have had a dvd/vcr & a stereo, both of which still work quite well after several years. I think it's a quality brand.

ya this isnt much of a woot deal, i would expect woot to outdeal newegg by more than $100 on a $1200 item, i need a new tv but this price just doesnt do it for woot

sethradz wrote:why do ppl hate on plasma, i have a 40" lcd, and 2 of my friends each have 42" plasmas n i'm jealous. everyone says they're worse for games (we play ps3 and 360 all the time and they look identical) and movies are waaaaay better on plasma due to the mucccccch better blacks....

Can you say burn in? Supposedly this isn't as much of a problem with the new tv's. LIES. I have spots all over mine from stationary objects in games. The image quality is great but i wouldn't recommend for gaming.

wanpakumono wrote:What exactly is the "natural motion" feature? How does it work?

From Philips:
HD Natural Motion for ultra smooth motion in Full HD movies
Philips invented HD Natural Motion to eliminate juddering effects that are visible with movie based picture content. HD Natural Motion estimates motion in the picture and corrects juddering movements in both broadcast and recorded movie material (such as DVD and Blu-ray Disc). The resulting smooth motion reproduction and excellent sharpness take the viewing experience to a higher level. HD Natural Motion removes judder from SD and HD pictures, including 1080p, for a motion performance that surpasses the cinema!

candyfloortrash wrote:Ask yourself the same question in 2 years when the plasma tubes in your tv bust and it costs more to repair than it does to replace.

Spare me, that's a joke. You have no clue what you're talking about.

Anyone know how well these things hold up to a Wii mote?

NCP14 wrote:I've had better luck. While I've never had a Philips tv, I have had a dvd/vcr & a stereo, both of which still work quite well after several years. I think it's a quality brand.

That DVD/VCR and probably the stereo too are Funai junk. They are as far as you can get from quality.

I use this TV as my monitor. It's awesome. Everything about it works flawlessly -- I'd recommend disabling a lot of the silly/worthless "features", but once that's done, it performs incredibly well as an HDTV and monitor. Also makes it really easy to type or work from bed =).

Hmm..


1. Its Philips
2. Its Expensive
3. Its refurbished
4. It has 3 Month warranty.


Its refurbed for a reason, someone didnt want it. Good luck.

CGamesPlay wrote: Woot Info Post
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Philips 52” 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV [Refurbished] - $1199.99 + $5 shipping

1 * Philips 52PFL7403D\F7 52” full HD 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV, Perfect Pixel HD, HD Natural Motion, 4 HDMI

This post is brought to you by Wooters.us, to help make sure pricing information on the product is available in the future. We are not run by nor affiliated with Woot.

Is this the one that supports NVIDIA 3D Vision 3d Glasses?

spend 1100.00 on a nice bike and get outside then take your s.o. out for a nice dinner instead of wasting your dough on this dinosaur

The 120hz feature is the most disgusting thing I've seen in TV technology. Basically, it takes the 24-frame rate of the movie you're watching and it makes up the extra frames in between to digitally remove the motion blurring. So basically, it makes film look like video. If you appreciate film, do yourself and favor and SHUT OFF THIS FEATURE.

The ONLY time this would ever be acceptable is if you're watching sports and want all the motion detail possible.

I can't believe this feature is enable on all of the demo Blu-Ray movies at Best Buy. It makes them look absolutely horrendous.

I'm gonna have to agree with people here that it's too steep a price for a refurb especially coming from woot.

NCP14 wrote:I've had better luck. While I've never had a Philips tv, I have had a dvd/vcr & a stereo, both of which still work quite well after several years. I think it's a quality brand.

Uuugghh, quality brand. I've had a Philips, dvd burner, mini sound system, tv switch, various remote controls, and some other junk go out well before it should ever had. I swore the band off for years and went with a Philips tv switch and they didn't disapoint me. It didn't even work out of the box

samijubal wrote:A Panny plasma kicks the scaffolding out of ANY Philips LCD. What planet do you live on?

Get off your frickin' name dropping high horse.

jshickam wrote:Can you say burn in? Supposedly this isn't as much of a problem with the new tv's. LIES. I have spots all over mine from stationary objects in games. The image quality is great but i wouldn't recommend for gaming.

I video game on my panny all the time, for hours sometimes. I did a good break in on my panasonic when it was brand new and any ghost images that I have are hardly noticable and disapear within 10 min. Burn in is a problem with lesser brand and older plasmas.

This post from SpenceMan01 on sellout.woot was too awesome and helpful to not pass on to this forum as well.

SpenceMan01 wrote:On a 37" TV, you'd have to be sitting no more than about 7.5 feet from the screen for your eyes to be able to physically resolve the difference between 720 and 1080. You'd have to be sitting closer to 5 feet away for the maximum benefit of 1080.


http://carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

sdgodfrey8 wrote:Hmm..


1. Its Philips
2. Its Expensive
3. Its refurbished
4. It has 3 Month warranty.


Its refurbed for a reason, someone didnt want it. Good luck.

Exactly, I bought a Philips 42 inch, got the setup complete and then it didn't work. Took it back to Costco!
This is on the Costco site now if u want to spend over 1200 for a TV this is a good choice:
Sharp Aquos
52" 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV
$1,499.99

Costco extends the MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY to two years from date of purchase. Plus take back in 90 days for any reason... this Philips is a bad deal...

Quick froogle:

http://www.google.com/products?q=1+Philips+52PFL7403D+52%E2%80%9D&scoring=r

Looks like it's a pretty sweet deal.

If I did not recently pick up a Samsung I would totally get this. From the reviews I have read people seem to really like it. I paid almost twice as much for mine and from a features/spec perspective it is not much better. The 2ms response time is pretty impressive.

noahz wrote:If I did not recently pick up a Samsung I would totally get this. From the reviews I have read people seem to really like it. I paid almost twice as much for mine and from a features/spec perspective it is not much better. The 2ms response time is pretty impressive.

Your Samsung will by far outlast this tv, it was money well spent.

Markguns wrote:From Philips:
HD Natural Motion for ultra smooth motion in Full HD movies
Philips invented HD Natural Motion to eliminate juddering effects that are visible with movie based picture content. HD Natural Motion estimates motion in the picture and corrects juddering movements in both broadcast and recorded movie material (such as DVD and Blu-ray Disc). The resulting smooth motion reproduction and excellent sharpness take the viewing experience to a higher level. HD Natural Motion removes judder from SD and HD pictures, including 1080p, for a motion performance that surpasses the cinema!

I had a TV (Bravia) that has a similar function to this, and it upset me. It almost felt like all the characters had been cut out and were sliding along the screen like so many "South Park" paper characters. I would not buy this TV based on its magic "super-realistic-majigger," but rather based on the other stats that are consistent from TV to TV.

digbydriver wrote:This is great. A gigantic screen that you can hang on your wall high enough so that all who drive by your house can see what you are watching. You can see millionaires in funny costumes chase a ball around. Or amateur singers trying to win a contrived contest designed to get tv networks to gain more revenue for the commercials they sell. Or video of the latest murder in your neighborhood, described by a silly girl. Great.

great to see somebody understands!

koticphreak wrote:who the f wants a plasma?! there's a reason they're $899

Plasma's still deliver better blacks and greater viewing angles than LCD's. They consume more power, but you gotta do what you gotta do for the better picture. I'll take a plasma over a LCD anyday.

You have to be insane to buy Philips, but u might get lucky.

i was considering to buy this, when I saw that sam club had the same set up, with a blue ray player for only 1548....o and new.

Can I feed this 120 Hz from my computer? Or can I only give it 60 Hz and let it guesstimate the other 60?

wanpakumono wrote:What exactly is the "natural motion" feature? How does it work?

I may be wrong on this, but "natural motion" is the 120Hz. This is in relation to the "blur" you may see on your tv if the image moves. You would see a trailing effect or shadow.

Many TVs are 60Hz, and this often becomes a problem for hardcore gamers. The 120Hz is more "natural" as if you where really there. In other words, there aren't extra little frames behind a moving person.

I hope that is correct/made sense. That is how I was explained it way back when.

If you're going to spend $1200 on a tv, buy it new.

I bought a deal from dell.com in december of the 42" model along with a Phillips blu-ray player for $1200, and thus far, it completely out-performs the samsung that I had previously.

I have the 47" same exact model. got it refurbished a year ago directly from philips for $800.

Image: When calibrated (thanks to avs forum calibration settings), this tv image is absolutely stunning. this set has one of the best blu-ray picture i have seen and i did compare with sony's and samsumgs's. the default settings are very bad except the power saving mode that gives a great picture but you have a install menu to set it up as you like.
Function: I have mostly everything off for movies. I don't use the 120hz function at all except when gaming. i use the dnm (natural motion for sports in hd), it works great.
Design: The design is also very nice. all in all a great buy. i wish i had a 52" or even bigger of course.
Remote: not very great cause you have to go into the menu to activate or deactivate functions. you can also set up only one personal settings , i would have like many
connectivity: more than enough hdmis.

I would hate for that scary ass ninja kitty to jump out while I'm sleeping and kill any small trolls in my house.

nathinnizzle wrote:How well does this work with streaming videos from your computer?

I have essentially this same TV, but the 47" version of it. I got it from Woot about 6 months ago. I watch streaming videos from Netflix through my Xbox 360, and they look great. Some look just as good as DVDs, so I'd imagine through a computer it would be just as good.

synthking wrote:Philips tvs suck.

I have the 47" version of this TV and I love it. So some of us with Philips TV experience are quite happy with them.

wtfwtflol wrote:Who the hell would spend $1200 to buy a refurbished TV?

Exactly!