> Condition: New

Definitely a bonus! And there is a his and hers. I'm in!

Now, will my wife appreciate my foresight in buying her Christmas present in July??

good deal, the 4 heads would cost alone a lot more in the store, besides your getting two.

Did someone REALLY ask if a toothbrush comes with directions?

Seeing as this is clearly packaged for foreign sales (see additional photos on main page), would the manufacturers warranty even be valid in the U.S?

I keep thinking about those "grey market" electronics and cars...

Still, for about $13 each, who cares if it craps out after a few months?

Are these refurbished? Sometimes I like my toothbrushes broken in.

What about the charger? We have these brushes and have had for over five years. You cannot purchase the charger by itself in a store. So, if our old charger quits we need to purchase the whole thing again. And, since it does not say chargers come with I doubt they do and could make this an iffy purchase.

I just spent $5,133.00 on dental work yesterday. These toothbrushes seem like quite a good deal right now!

If the battery dies you can still use the head and brush manually while humming and it is the same thing.

The physics behind this thought might be reasonable, but you have not thought this through. The motor (actual product) runs off batteries, the charger unit just charges the batteries ;-) No Ph.D for you !

rgagnon wrote:Let's see....

Given:
Japanese power grid runs at 50Hz.
Unit moves at 20,000 times per minute.
North American power grid runs at 60Hz.
Name of product includes the word "sonic"

As 60Hz is 20% higher than 50Hz. One might be able to assume, that, if the product does not burn out from the extra power frequency, that it will then operate at 24,000 times per minute (400Hz).

As 20,000 is slower than 24,000, and they call 20,000 "sonic", I come to the conclusion that the unit operates SUPER-SONICALLY in the United States.

Where's my PhD?

In for 1 two-pack. These seem like a good deal for someone like me who travels a lot, since the low cost means you can lose or break them without getting overly upset at yourself...

Steve325 wrote:what makes these more expensive brushes better than a crest spin brush, besides the obvious rechargeable batteries?

I have one, and it's basically the difference between brushing and flossing your own teeth (spin brush) vs. going to the hygenist and having them clean your teeth. I seriously feel like I am coming from the dentist's office every time I brush.

If you only have one set of teeth that need brushing here is a link on how to make one of these into a lockpick.

http://www.inventgeek.com/Projects/lockpick/lockpick.aspx

Mark me down for 2 2-packs... I have an old SoniCare one and the replacement bristles alone cost me $25 and it's so old the plastic has yellowed. In a year or two I can pitch the handle and have a brand new one!

rgagnon wrote:Let's see....

Given:
Japanese power grid runs at 50Hz.
Unit moves at 20,000 times per minute.
North American power grid runs at 60Hz.
Name of product includes the word "sonic"

As 60Hz is 20% higher than 50Hz. One might be able to assume, that, if the product does not burn out from the extra power frequency, that it will then operate at 24,000 times per minute (400Hz).

As 20,000 is slower than 24,000, and they call 20,000 "sonic", I come to the conclusion that the unit operates SUPER-SONICALLY in the United States.

Where's my PhD?

The higher frequency means that maybe the charger will get burnt out. If that isn't the case, you'll just get a faster charge on your battery.

The brush itself is not plugged directly into the wall when you're using it. So it's only going at whatever frequency the battery permits.

I've used one of these for over a year and it's great! An overnight charge runs the brush for a week. The replacement heads are usually $20-$30, so this is a great deal.

I can get these free at CVS.

does it have a universal charger 120 & 220V compatible or only 120V ??

worldofjohnboy wrote:I have one, and it's basically the difference between brushing and flossing your own teeth (spin brush) vs. going to the hygenist and having them clean your teeth. I seriously feel like I am coming from the dentist's office every time I brush.

awesome, well I'm sold! Next deal Woot, waterpik flosser? I've been dying to pick one of those up.

I own(ed) this toothbrush.

It is a regular toothbrush that vibrates. I cannot stress this enough. It is not a cheap version of a Sonic toothbrush, because it doesn't even come close.

The chargers are similar and very handy, but the power that gets to the brush head is nearly worthless.

The cheapest Sonicare toothbrush gets 32,000 vibrations per minute, that's a 60% increase in speed over this toothbrush. Trust me, that 60% increase makes an immense difference.

With the Oral-B Vitality, you will have to brush your teeth the same as you would with any other toothbrush. You need to go in circles, 45 degree angle, scrub, etc. You don't use it any different than the $3 dollar version.

With the Sonicare, you literally just have to lightly drag the brush across your teeth and they will be cleaned better than 10 minutes of brushing with these..

No offense to Woot but these things are a scam meant to lure people who don't want to spend $50+ on a toothbrush and think they are getting something with reduced power for a reduced price. This is like buying a go-cart instead of a car guys, it has the same principles but they are in a whole different league.

I happen to own this very same one.......Luv it. My dentist recommended it 2 yrs ago and now my whole famil owns one.. It makes your mouth stay clean and you know its clean......Great price

So if i use them both at the same time can i cut down my brushing time to 2 - 1 minute sessions per day?

That would save me 12 Hours 10 Minutes a year in brushing...now thats a Deal!

Peantoo wrote:I own(ed) this toothbrush.

It is a regular toothbrush that vibrates. I cannot stress this enough. It is not a cheap version of a Sonic toothbrush, because it doesn't even come close.

The chargers are similar and very handy, but the power that gets to the brush head is nearly worthless.

The cheapest Sonicare toothbrush gets 32,000 vibrations per minute, that's a 60% increase in speed over this toothbrush. Trust me, that 60% increase makes an immense difference.

With the Oral-B Vitality, you will have to brush your teeth the same as you would with any other toothbrush. You need to go in circles, 45 degree angle, scrub, etc. You don't use it any different than the $3 dollar version.

With the Sonicare, you literally just have to lightly drag the brush across your teeth and they will be cleaned better than 10 minutes of brushing with these..

No offense to Woot but these things are a scam meant to lure people who don't want to spend $50+ on a toothbrush and think they are getting something with reduced power for a reduced price. This is like buying a go-cart instead of a car guys, it has the same principles but they are in a whole different league.

How many vibrations do we really need? I've had perfect teeth all my life and I've used manual for most of it without hardly ever seeing the dentist. I'm sure that it makes a difference, but a waste of money? I think that may be going a little far.

I'm a little concerned as I've ordered the Oral-B Vitality Sonic Rechargeable Toothbrush and Replacement Heads - 2 Pack from Woot, but just received an order summary stating that I'm only getting 1 toothbrush?! I've emailed Woot of the issue and will wait for their response. Just thought I'd let everyone know that there maybe a typo with the add.

bobwert64 wrote:I'm a little concerned as I've ordered the Oral-B Vitality Sonic Rechargeable Toothbrush and Replacement Heads - 2 Pack from Woot, but just received an order summary stating that I'm only getting 1 toothbrush?! I've emailed Woot of the issue and will wait for their response. Just thought I'd let everyone know that there maybe a typo with the add.

"Your order number ####### for 1 Oral-B Vitality Sonic Rechargeable Toothbrush and Replacement Heads - 2 Pack has been received by Woot on 7/28/2009"

Also getting this same message, this was placed about 5 minutes ago

Steve325 wrote:"Your order number ####### for 1 Oral-B Vitality Sonic Rechargeable Toothbrush and Replacement Heads - 2 Pack has been received by Woot on 7/28/2009"

Also getting this same message, this was placed about 5 minutes ago

But why 1 Oral-B Vitality Toothbrush when the add says "2 Braun S12513 Oral-B Vitality Sonic Rechargeable Toothbrush" and the picture shows 2 toothbrushes...not 1.

Steve325 wrote:"Your order number ####### for 1 Oral-B Vitality Sonic Rechargeable Toothbrush and Replacement Heads - 2 Pack has been received by Woot on 7/28/2009"

Also getting this same message, this was placed about 5 minutes ago

You're getting 1 2-pack. So 2 brushes.

Woot views these as 1 item. So when you order "1" you're going to get 1 pacakge of 2 brushes.

Not that difficult...

Is the charger compatible with 230 V ?

derango wrote:You're getting 1 2-pack. So 2 brushes.

Woot views these as 1 item. So when you order "1" you're going to get 1 pacakge of 2 brushes.

Not that difficult...

Thanks for the clarification and the added comment.

Steve325 wrote:How many vibrations do we really need? I've had perfect teeth all my life and I've used manual for most of it without hardly ever seeing the dentist. I'm sure that it makes a difference, but a waste of money? I think that may be going a little far.

Some people are lucky and don't require a lot of maintenance. Some people, like me, battle gingivitis even after flossing every day, brushing like the dentist says to brush, and using expensive mouthwash.

Ever since I got a Sonicare I have been gingivitis free. I was a skeptic for a very long time, thinking the same thing as you. Which is precisely why I bought one of these first. At half the price of the cheapest Sonicare, it seemed like a steal. Too bad I didn't realize that it worked just as well as my old manual toothbrush.

So basically, if you're like you and have perfect teeth with a manual, this is a waste of money, since it works as well as a manual.

If you're like me, this is a waste of money, since it doesn't offer nearly the performance of the real deal and the cheapest Sonicare completely rid me of gingivitis and bleeding gums.

I don't really see how anything I said is that much of a stretch...

for the same price you can buy the oral-b professional grade electric toothbrush with two heads. just sayin

Standard voltage in the Land of the Rising Sun is 100 volts, as opposed to the 110 V standard in the USA. Western portions of the country (like Kyoto) use 60 Hz, eastern regions (such as Tokyo) use 50 Hz.

I had no problems using any of my electrical gadgets while in Kyoto. I'm sure these toothbrushes will work just fine for all of us America-jin.

These are the ones our dentist recommended. My girls have had them for a couple of years and they still work great.

I'm in. Hopefully there's no lead in it.

Peantoo wrote:Some people are lucky and don't require a lot of maintenance. Some people, like me, battle gingivitis even after flossing every day, brushing like the dentist says to brush, and using expensive mouthwash.

Ever since I got a Sonicare I have been gingivitis free. I was a skeptic for a very long time, thinking the same thing as you. Which is precisely why I bought one of these first. At half the price of the cheapest Sonicare, it seemed like a steal. Too bad I didn't realize that it worked just as well as my old manual toothbrush.

So basically, if you're like you and have perfect teeth with a manual, this is a waste of money, since it works as well as a manual.

If you're like me, this is a waste of money, since it doesn't offer nearly the performance of the real deal and the cheapest Sonicare completely rid me of gingivitis and bleeding gums.

I don't really see how anything I said is that much of a stretch...

I'd be very hard pressed to say that it's not better than a manual. I have no hands on experience with this toothbrush, but even "stepping up" to a Crest Spin Brush was quite the difference from a manual and this is supposed to be better than that? Then this should work just fine IMO.

I think there are more important things that go behind the scenes besides the amount of vibrations that go with good tooth/gum health. Example: dieting, cardiovascular health, soda intake, calcium intake, and frequency of brushing.

I'm not questioning whether or not a sonicare is better, because I'm sure it is and it better be for the price that they are charging. I'd say for the average person who isn't fighting a bunch of diseases, heavy plaque build up, and so on, this should be more than sufficient

Is it typical that you confirmation from Woot says you ordered 1 even though it's two for tuesdays?

I assumed you got two toothbrushes and 4 replacement heads. Am I correct? If so, my order said only 1 toothbrush with 2 replacement heads.

I would just like to know if the batteries are REPLACEABLE. I have a sonicare, which I love, but after a year of keeping it in the charger, it no longer holds a charge after you try to use it for a few days. I hate to throw the thing out because you cant replace the batteries. Are they replaceable in THIS one?

sfcchase wrote:These seem to be terribly overpriced.

$39.95 ea at Oral B outlet store.

Steve325 wrote:what makes these more expensive brushes better than a crest spin brush, besides the obvious rechargeable batteries?

Your dentist should be able to explain and/or demonstrate this to you using a plaque dye. (I actually did this) With the plaque colored so you can see it, you can take a regular toothbrush and brush your teeth and try to get the plaque off. It takes a lot of brush strokes and time. The sonic technology moves the head so fast, it performs enough brush strokes to remove the plaque in roughly two minutes. The non-sonic electric brushes are about the same as a regular tooth brush.

That's why they are superior and why Dentist who stay up on the latest dental practices will recommend a sonic care brush. (If you get note from your dentist telling your buy a Sonic Care as part of your treatment plan, you can get it covered under Flex Spending accounts too.) Sonic Care are $200 so I am willing to try these out for the small investment.

This also correlates with the latest evidence that the health of your mouth directly correlates to the health of the rest of your body. But that is a whole other discussion. Hope this helps

I've never tried the Oral-B sonic toothbrush, but have used the Sonicare Elite for several years. It's far better than a regular toothbrush, but the proper technique is very different. If you get this, read the instructions and get a knowledgeable dental hygienist to show you how to use it. And BTW, you might well do better without toothpaste at all.

EDIT: And another BTW, when used properly I run the Sonicare double its timing. That is, its timing is 2 mins; that not enough for a proper cleaning, I use 2 mins for lower, and 2 mins for upper.

Are the batteries NiMh or NiCad?