It should be noted that AMD's tend to run hotter than their Intel counterparts.

bigchief76 wrote:Where do I go to find the specs on my specific monitors? one is dell vista desktop and the other is dell Win7 laptop.(no blu ray)

Just look in your user manuals or google your make and model. The key words you are looking for are native resolution. This is the actual resolution in pixels of your screen. The vertical component is what your asking about I presume... so, if you monitor's native resolution is 1680 x 1050, that means your monitor could be labeled as 1050p. That's what all that '720p this' and '540p that' and 'oh look it's 1080p!' really mean... the number of pixels in the vertical direction of your screen (also called scan lines).

Sorry, that was long, but hopefully that helps you.

anyone know about linux drivers for this?

cage017 wrote:I always hear about Intel processors, but what's the story on AMD processors? Are any of them better than dual cores, core i3, etc.?

As long as you are comparing the Intel Mobile Core or i line of processors to a mobile AMD processor... I'd say that the Intel's are better as far as performance, vs. heat, vs. power consumption.

That is not to say that AMD makes terrible mobile processors... Intel just currently makes more efficient "better" ones.

bigchief76 wrote:How does this processor stand up to an i5? This looks like a pretty rockin deal to me.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

This says that i5 U 520(the lowest version of the i5) is ranked 258.

And the AMD Turion II M620 is ranked to 269.

The lower the rank the better the processor.

The i5 is better, but just by a little bit.

I own this laptop.

The plusses: The Bluray is awesome. The screen is amazing. Large 500 gig HD.

The CONS:
B-A-T-T-E-R-Y - Life is AWEFUL.
Hard Drive is 5400rpm and slow

If you want a desktop replacement for entertainment this is awesome... Not for heavy gaming and multi tasking.

Buzzillions gives it a 4.4
http://www.buzzillions.com/x/s?N=4294811422&D=x&cat=&extra=all-product&Ntt=HP+DV7-3165DX+

Wilbur305 wrote:I own this laptop.

The plusses: The Bluray is awesome. The screen is amazing. Large 500 gig HD.

The CONS:
B-A-T-T-E-R-Y - Life is AWEFUL.
Hard Drive is 5400rpm and slow

If you want a desktop replacement for entertainment this is awesome... Not for heavy gaming and multi tasking.

Hard drives are 5400rpm to save on energy now. If it were 7200 the battery life would be worse

samira wrote:Thanks! I will use that code.

You can use the THIRTY30 code ONCE for 30% off at Sqaretrade the TWTYOFF is anytime

I just bought this laptop 2 weeks ago brand new at best buy for $679.99. It has been wonderful for me.
I
know someone else said it has a 5400rpm hard drive but it is actually 7200rpm as stated on the woot home page...

Battery life (8 cell battery! not a typical 6 cell) is actually very decent. I've been getting around 4 hours or so on a single charge using it with various decently demanding programs running.

If you do decide to purchase it, make sure you go into the idt audio settings in the taskbar and change the trubass level all the way down and your speakers will be extremely loud and clear.

As for turion ultra x2 processor (2.5 gHz) vs. i3s... I purchased the samsung with blueray and had to return it as it couldn't play a movie and run firefox without skipping. The turion with the ATI 4200 will play movies, run firefox with 10 tabs, run utorrent, and copy files onto an external hard drive all at the same time without it lagging. This laptop is a true workhorse and I'd recommend it to anyone!

Will this support BD Live content?

cage017 wrote:I always hear about Intel processors, but what's the story on AMD processors? Are any of them better than dual cores, core i3, etc.?

I have mostly just used Intel. However, my next upgrade for my computer will be AMD. It is kind of like the entire Nvidia vs ATI video card battle. There are differences, and they tend to vary between who is 'better' depending on the year and who you are talking to. Right now, AMD and ATI are a better bang for the buck for the most part. As far as the processors go, Intel chips seem to out perform AMD chips of a similar level (but definitely not a similar price as Intel chips are generally more pricey, especially in the i7 range). According to the following website, the AMD processor in this computer is for the most part comparable to a 2.5ish Core2 Duo.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Damn! HP again. And overpriced again.

No thanks. No HP or Compaq for me. Made of the same parts as an Acer, Asus, or Gateway, but more expensive and full of software that benefits HP, Compaq, or their cronies in the marketing divisions of associated companies - NOT the user.

Coolbreeze sez "thumbs down"!

bigchief76 wrote:How does this processor stand up to an i5? This looks like a pretty rockin deal to me.

The processor seems to be one of the weaker points. When comparing to Intel, an i3 mobile will blow this away, let alone an i5. However, that is not to say this chip can't handle pretty much all day to day needs.

Why would this have a blu ray player when the monitor is not full 1080? NO DICE!!!

[quote postid="3986631" user="stoyamajello"]I just bought this laptop 2 weeks ago brand new at best buy for $679.99. It has been wonderful for me.


So you got it for about $70 more, with tax, brand new but probably came with a one year warranty. I don't think I would ever buy a laptop, and I need one, from woot becuase of the 90day warranty. Sure I could get square trade but then I might as well just go to the store and get it new.

$748.98 at my local best buy with one year warranty. Or $684.98 refurbished on woot with one year square trade. So $64 it would be new and easier to take back if it broke. I'll just wait until its on sale and get it brand new.

dlazz wrote:It should be noted that AMD's tend to run hotter than their Intel counterparts.

The Intel Core i7-720 is a 45W TDP processor while a Turion II Ultra M620 is a 35W TDP processor. Which means that at peak operation the AMD processor will burn a bit under 35W and the Core i7 720 will burn a bit under 45W.

Certainly not hotter!

Oh I'd get it now if it was a 15 inch. 17 inches is just too much for me to carry around. Shucks! Right place, right time, wrong size.

cage017 wrote:I always hear about Intel processors, but what's the story on AMD processors? Are any of them better than dual cores, core i3, etc.?

AMD is definitely an inferior chip. It runs hotter, makes your fan louder, and is less reliable than Intel.

suelinlange wrote:Right place, right time, wrong size.

That's what she said....

cage017 wrote:I always hear about Intel processors, but what's the story on AMD processors? Are any of them better than dual cores, core i3, etc.?

I personally prefer quad cores, but anyways... as for AMD, they are better IMHO because you can overclock or in my case underclock it to have less power consumption at a non-noticeable performance decrease.

kozmo199 wrote:AMD is definitely an inferior chip. It runs hotter, makes your fan louder, and is less reliable than Intel.

As already noted, the AMD CPU specified in this system is 35W TDP. The OEM designs their cooling solution around that figure. CPU's with a higher TDP will need more agressive cooling at peak load. Power consumption varies by usage and model but the 35W TDP figure is pretty useful in comparing to other models.

I would pass, but that's just me. The Intel Core 2 Processors outperform the Turion processors by a mile. Hell, the Core 2 Processors were even dominating AMD's older Phenom chips. Not to mention, what's the point of bluray if you can't watch it in full HD. Don't forget the 5400rpm drive, which is going to under perform.

ssolotko wrote:The Intel Core i7-720 is a 45W TDP processor while a Turion II Ultra M620 is a 35W TDP processor. Which means that at peak operation the AMD processor will burn a bit under 35W and the Core i7 720 will burn a bit under 45W.

Certainly not hotter!

The AMD is not even in the same ballpark as the i7. The Turion M620 rates 1570 on the PassMark test, the i7-720qm scores 3230. So while the i7 will use up to 29% more power, it's a 106% more powerful processor while doing so. Figures quoted from www.cpubenchmark.net.

bigchief76 wrote:Why would this have a blu ray player when the monitor is not full 1080? NO DICE!!!

I have a lower end of this model dv7-1468nr and it does 1080p so im not sure why that info. I have connected it to my 47" 1080p LG LCD and it does 1080p/60.

How many 17" laptops with BluRay drives and less than 1920x1200 or (x1080) screens will you sell, Woot?

I guess there is a reason they're being sold on Woot..

Judging from woot's photo this should work great for watching movies featuring a latin ladies ass.

Just sayin'

Wilbur305 wrote:I own this laptop.

The plusses: The Bluray is awesome. The screen is amazing. Large 500 gig HD.

The CONS:
B-A-T-T-E-R-Y - Life is AWEFUL.
Hard Drive is 5400rpm and slow

If you want a desktop replacement for entertainment this is awesome... Not for heavy gaming and multi tasking.

It clearly says 7200 RPM hard-drive.

What's that crap all over the top cove and near the trackpad? Looks awful!

Wilbur305 wrote:I own this laptop.

The plusses: The Bluray is awesome. The screen is amazing. Large 500 gig HD.

The CONS:
B-A-T-T-E-R-Y - Life is AWEFUL.
Hard Drive is 5400rpm and slow

If you want a desktop replacement for entertainment this is awesome... Not for heavy gaming and multi tasking.

500 GB SATA 7200 RPM hard drive according to the description given.

Hmmm....as always tempting HP....

All those features at such a great price....but....as many HP users have learned beauty is only skin deep with many of HPs laptops.

If you notice the large # of refurbs online available for this model...that's your 1st sign of something wrong.

Reading the reviews out there....seems HP is still not resolving its graphics chip issues in their laptops with their usual failing almost immediately after the warranty expires.

I have owned many many laptops in my years from Dell, IBM, Apple, Acer, Asus,etc...and NONE of them have ever failed and are still running save for my HPs.
Its like they time their laptops to break when you have to pay them to fix it.

I had an HP TX1000 and after the multitudes of problems with that model that HP never rectified or admitted to their customers....I can never ever recommend an HP Laptop again.

So Buyer beware.....chances are this refurb will go blank in 1-2 years so better have the extended Squaretrade warranty because HPs service is horrendous.

allenallen wrote:really why would anyone want to get this when they could just get a mac and finish the search for the best computer ever.

Let's see.....
1) Because Macs are overpriced for what you get with proprietary hardware
2) they don't have Blu-Ray or Windows 7 pre-installed.
3) Have no idea what an ExpressCard Slot is
4) Don't have Windows Media Center
5) Still only use Core 2 Duos on cheap Macbook...no i3, i5, or i7 processors......or AMD Processors to boot
6) Are only 13.3" for normal macbooks...if you want a 17" screen you are gonna pay 2300$ for a Pro model
7) No HDMI Port (which is available now on the lowliest NETBOOK)

Does this specific model have a backlit keyboard?

They sell this exact model at Best Buy right now for $699-$799 right now. Although its about to go on clearance any time now

willki wrote:With 4GB of RAM, and 500GB of space, this would a great machine to run XBMC on and connect to your TV.

Yes, it would, but for half the price, you could connect an equivalent desktop to your TV.

Wilbur305 wrote:I own this laptop.

The plusses: The Bluray is awesome. The screen is amazing. Large 500 gig HD.

The CONS:
B-A-T-T-E-R-Y - Life is AWEFUL.
Hard Drive is 5400rpm and slow

If you want a desktop replacement for entertainment this is awesome... Not for heavy gaming and multi tasking.

Wilbur305. The description lists a 7200RPM drive. Am I reading that wrong?

just bought a brand new one off QVC DOLT! Pros- fast, slick, easy to set up. Kubuntu installs nicely, everything seems to work. Cons - speakers are tinny (but it is a laptop) its a beast to lug around!

ssolotko wrote:The Intel Core i7-720 is a 45W TDP processor while a Turion II Ultra M620 is a 35W TDP processor. Which means that at peak operation the AMD processor will burn a bit under 35W and the Core i7 720 will burn a bit under 45W.

Certainly not hotter!

Well thats not entirely correct. "Hot" is a factor of power/wattage (the heat output) as well as cooling function available in the laptop. Think of it this way - you put the 45W processor in a bucket of ice and it will be cooler than a 35W processor in the open :-) not that I would suggest you do it. It is difficult to say that an AMD laptop runs hotter than an Intel one just because of wattage.

Just a heads up HP laptop don't seem to much in the way of longevity. I have three different friends with three different models who have all had issues with the motherboards outside of warranty but within 2 years of purchase.

teckler wrote:Does this specific model have a backlit keyboard?

Nope, but the flippin screen is bright enought that backlighting would be a waste, IMO.