buffaloed wrote:They can be refilled however you have to make a hole to inject the ink. The refill kits come with a hole making tool. There's a recessed area on the top of the cartridge that indicates where to make the hole. You can also get re-manufactured/generic cartridges which have the hole already made. Be aware that if you refill or even use a generic cartridge you may get a low or no ink warning regardless of how much ink is in the cartridge. That can be ignored and you can print. I think that sensor only works reliably with new genuine cartridges.

Thanks, that's what I thought was the case. Do you happen to know where a CIS system would go on this printer? Inside the box or outside?

trlby wrote:I'd buy it if WOOT would ship to a commercial address....

They ship to my office!

Dumb question: I'm getting ready to leave on vacation at the end of next week, and I'm trying to decide whether to get this. Any idea how long shipping might take (to Florida)? Since it will come either FedEx or UPS, putting a hold on my mail won't keep it from being delivered and sitting on my doorstep until I get back (or someone decides to pick up a free printer)....

SpkrBox850 wrote:What's the difference between Black PGI-220BK and Black CLI-221BK?

In the box:

* Canon MP640 Printer
* Black PGI-220BK Ink
* Magenta CLI-221M
* Yellow CLI-221Y
* Cyan CLI-221C
* Black CLI-221BK
* Power Cable
* Print Head
* Printer Head Alignment Paper

One is dye-based; the other is pigment based. This allows for truer, richer blacks when printing photos or text.

paxt0n wrote:Can you print wireless from an iPad with this?

will it work with the new ipad maxi plus xti?

elvestinkle wrote:People still buy ink printers? The gadgetry is nice, but even with fill-'er-up ink kits this is a pass for me.

What other kind of printers are there?

recchi8 wrote:Not sure I understand your Photoshop question. How would you scan "through" PS? Or are you asking if once you scan a picture will the Canon software automatically open PS to view and edit the scan?

The Canoscan scanning software will let you select a program to scan to, so just set Photoshop CS4 as the default.

The Strangers (2008)34d wrote:What other kind of printers are there?

The laser (or LaserJet) printers use toner, rather than ink. For most, they start at around $400 and can go up to $500,000.00+ depending on the features.

The price of ink is fascinating.

Drop into Frys this week and buy a Canon PIXMA iP4700 for $30. http://www.frys.com/product/6000778

You can then save some money by throwing away the iP4700 and keeping the (new, uninstalled, Canon) ink cartridges.

I'm confused. The specs don't list Windows 7 as a supported OS. I have a laptop with Windows 7 Ultimate - 64bit. Is there software with the printer to support my laptop?

NDEBT wrote:I sure hope so. I bought it before I noticed it did not list Win 7. I guess I'll gift it if it doesn't.

I have the Pixma 600 - a considerably older version w/o wireless - and it works fine on my 64 bit Windows 7 machine.

nds wrote:The price of ink is fascinating.

Drop into Frys this week and buy a Canon PIXMA iP4700 for $30. http://www.frys.com/product/6000778

You can then save some money by throwing away the iP4700 and keeping the (new, uninstalled, Canon) ink cartridges.

Or make money, and sell it on Craigslist ;)

sucker4crap wrote:The laser (or LaserJet) printers use toner, rather than ink. For most, they start at around $400 and can go up to $500,000.00+ depending on the features.

I recently picked up a Brother DCP-7040 three-in-one laser printer/copier/scanner; the unit works flawlessly but does not handle color. Could you please recommend an equally reliable laser all-in-one that can print & copy in color?

kuo0830 wrote:Will this work with Windows 7 since it's not said in the descriptions?

I know your question has been answered already, but honestly would you trust a company like CANON to update their software/drivers to be compatible with Win7?

Hint: Yes!

(Sorry if that came off as rude.. but I think it's kind of a silly question) Although it probably should be noted that you shouldn't rely on the software that comes on the CD with the printer. Go to Canon's website and download the latest software/drivers for the printer for your OS.

I'm seriously considering grabbing this. Can someone who owns this model answer some questions for me? As it stands, I don't do it a whole lot of printing. Perhaps when school starts up again in the fall I'll be printing more, which will more likely be papers, in which case I'll keep it in grayscale mode as default so it wont use the black destined for color prints... anyway, I digress. I have a lot of old pictures I want to scan to keep digital copies of, and I've read that the scanner works well. Does it send the file wirelessly as well? I would assume yes.. for example, if I put a picture in the scanner bed and scan it, I can access the scanned item from my laptop without having to put it on a USB stick or anything like that? (I'm assuming the answer is yes..)

If I'd be as pleased with Canon's printers as I am with Canon's digital cameras, I'd pretty much be stupid NOT to buy this! I need a printer/scanner anyway and wireless is just icing on the cake!

so this printer can be used to print documents as well as pictures, such as Word, right?

and will it work with a Toshiba?

I've done it! After a couple of years of waiting for the right deal, I have purchased my first Woot! item! I've been wanting a wireless printer for some time and the features on this printer, the fact that it's Canon, and the price just could not be beat!

I can't wait to get my new printer!!!!!!!

Never mind my questions, I guess. When I went back to the listing, the bouncing "I want one!" button made my decision for me. Figured I'd better do it now and if I decide it wasn't a good purchase, try to sell it, rather than regret waiting and not getting one at all, lol.

Hope Canon delivers on this one!

Erekai wrote:I know your question has been answered already, but honestly would you trust a company like CANON to update their software/drivers to be compatible with Win7?

A lot of companies dropped support for 'older' hardware to concentrate on Win7 and/or 64-bit driver development, purely as a cost cutting measure.

Erekai wrote:
Can someone who owns this model answer some questions for me? [...] Does it send the file wirelessly as well?

Yep! Put the original on the glass, go back to your laptop and run the scanning software. Like magic the scanned image is on your PC, ready to be saved, manipulated or what have you (you can also scan to the printer's usb or flash/memory slots & they show up as shared drives on your network. Which makes them really handy as media readers). And, the software makes scanning multiple originals easy, you just keep changing the original and hitting scan.

About Canon cameras...we had a Canon A530 with the "kills sd cards if they are bigger than 512 mb and you try to save a video" firmware problem. CHDK totally saved the day, unlocked all sorts of features and made me want to buy another Canon camera.

philgonet wrote:Anybody own one of these and know if you can use it as a copier without turning on a linked computer? With a CISS this might be useful in my wife's classroom as a 'cheap' photocopier... plus as a bonus I could link the computers to it so they could do wireless scans. Hmmm maybe I should 'just do it'.

I have the previous version and really like the fact that you can use it as a copier or scan to a USB drive without turning on the computer.

Sweet, I think I bought the second to last one. Great deal. I have had two PIXMAs already and they have been flawless but not wireless. Stoked for this one at half retail!

IrishLass622 wrote:They ship to my office!

And mine as well... Although it is too late as the insanely large 'I want one' button now shows 'Sold Out'. But for future reference, yes they do!

recchi8 wrote:Sorry, but I have to disagree with each of your points.

1) My last Canon inkjet lasted 4 years before it started experiencing clogging issues and I think that may have had as much to do with my using 3rd party inks vs. OEM.

3) The wireless on the 990 was easy to set-up and works flawlessly. Saying wireless is meaningless is short-sighted. I'm guessing you don't own a laptop. Because if you had 3 in your house like I do (teenagers) then having wireless is priceless.

1) I have yet to see an inkjet printer last more than a year before it started to crumble. Then again, i gave up on them a couple of years ago and have been using HP laserjets (which, by the way, last forever, particularly the older models).

3) And you can't connect a printer to the wired part of your network, and achieve the same result?

Wireless is something you use when you absolutely have to get portability, and have too large an area to string the whole place with network cables (as I did, after getting fed up with dropped connections and compatibility problems (due to the ever-changing security protocols, as each one is proven insecure and replaced with another) with wireless). A printer doesn't need to move around, and there's no reason to put dodgy wireless into the mix. And, if, as advertised, it lets you print without an existing wifi network, that opens the door to all sorts of potential security issues...

marcol22 wrote:so this printer can be used to print documents as well as pictures, such as Word, right?

and will it work with a Toshiba?

Certainly. Relax. Woot.

DrAzzy wrote:1) I have yet to see an inkjet printer last more than a year before it started to crumble. Then again, i gave up on them a couple of years ago and have been using HP laserjets (which, by the way, last forever, particularly the older models).

3) And you can't connect a printer to the wired part of your network, and achieve the same result?

Wireless is something you use when you absolutely have to get portability, and have too large an area to string the whole place with network cables (as I did, after getting fed up with dropped connections and compatibility problems (due to the ever-changing security protocols, as each one is proven insecure and replaced with another) with wireless). A printer doesn't need to move around, and there's no reason to put dodgy wireless into the mix. And, if, as advertised, it lets you print without an existing wifi network, that opens the door to all sorts of potential security issues...

I've had 3 inkjet printers, all of which lasted over 4 years (the only one that didn't last over 6 years was lost to a power line lightning strike). In the same period of time, I've gone through 3 laser printers (to be fair, they got heavier use).

If your kids/spouse have computers located in different rooms, wireless is...priceless. I do worry about security though - a clever student could plagiarize my son's tadpole project.

edit: 3199 printers sold - good job, Woot!

It's a great printer I have one in the wife's room and I can print on it from 90 ft away wirelessly. I Use it to print Documents, and use my Canon Pro 9000 to do my photography.

When do we get the "Woot vuvuzela"?

AnonymousG wrote:When do we get the "Woot vuvuzela"?

I would buy 3.

DrAzzy wrote:
3) And you can't connect a printer to the wired part of your network, and achieve the same result?

Wireless is something you use when you absolutely have to get portability, and have too large an area to string the whole place with network cables (as I did, after getting fed up with dropped connections and compatibility problems (due to the ever-changing security protocols, as each one is proven insecure and replaced with another) with wireless). A printer doesn't need to move around, and there's no reason to put dodgy wireless into the mix. And, if, as advertised, it lets you print without an existing wifi network, that opens the door to all sorts of potential security issues...

You are assuming that the printer in question utilizes a standard TCP/IP print server, scanner server, drive sharing (ie SAMBA) and can simply be accessed like any other computer. Many can, specifically those with a non-proprietary network stack. However in this case, sadly you are wrong and are starting to come off as a bit, well, arrogant. I own this printer and have network certs and training. When I ran a sniffer on it it was immediately clear that it's running a MAC based protocol; a little research provided some of the protocol details. It's non-routable. Which means that it may or may not be available to wireless laptops trying to access it over a WAP + router, it depends on the hardware and network. The built in WiFi however, works great, is quick to set up, and can be as secure as a home user would need.

"There’s also built-in wireless, letting you scan and print _from_the_other_room_, assuming the Internet doesn’t go down because of all the people trying to watch webstreams of a once-in-a-lifetime event."

Um... The internet being down wouldn't affect your local wireless network.

Fry's had a display full of these near the front door a few weeks ago for $39.99

Would buy this one over Canon's newer MX860 All-In-One. The MX860 is only $50 more but has a automatic document feeder (ADF). Furthermore, this ADF is *double-sided*. Perhaps one of the only ones in the whole market (excluding professional business models) for consumers like you and I. HUGE perk - duplex ADF lets me scan bundles of documents without having to stand next to the printer flipping over each page after each scan.

sucker4crap wrote:The laser (or LaserJet) printers use toner, rather than ink. For most, they start at around $400 and can go up to $500,000.00+ depending on the features.

I bought my wireless Brother 2170W (not color) laser for $80. They're quite affordable these days. And the printing speed is unmatched.

I knew I should have bought it last night. Thought I'd "sleep" on it. Slept too long I guess.

I like when things I buy sell out because then i feel like I didn't get ripped off.

recchi8 wrote:Not sure I understand your Photoshop question. How would you scan "through"

When using a Photoshop plug-in to scan, as opposed to the scanner utility, the image is held in RAM only (not written to a file on the hard disk yet) and appears as a new untitled image in an open Photoshop window, allowing image processing, etc., before the image is saved to a file. This saves a step when scanning a large number of images which must be color corrected and filed according to subject. I run a magazine and would lose hours of time each issue if I had to scan separately, then adjust images as a separate step, then name and file them. You only save 10 or 30 seconds per image, but if your magazine contains 500 images, this is relevant.

sucker4crap wrote:The laser (or LaserJet) printers use toner, rather than ink. For most, they start at around $400 and can go up to $500,000.00+ depending on the features.

Well crap, why don't you just go get an offset printer for $1.5 million? Whoops, they use ink.

tetherton wrote:Fry's had a display full of these near the front door a few weeks ago for $39.99

Same one? You're positive? Absolutely positive? Doubt it, sorry :\

@ MESCALERO

Mescalero wrote:With my HP, when I tried to use "after market" cartridges, the printer doesn't see it and continually says your out of ink as well.

Awhile back, HP installed an update on my computer which scanned the printer for cartridges for a little chip or software, and unless finding said software, disabled the printer.

DELETE HP Software updates on your computer and continue to use your perfectly legal, much cheaper refills.

baffleonious wrote:Additionally, refilling these cartridges gets harder and harder with each subsequent cartridge design they go with.

You realize they do this on purpose, right?

paxt0n wrote:Can you print wireless from an iPad with this?

I thought I was approaching the point of being banned, after "working the iPad in" on every item, and laughing out loud while doing so.

Thanks for the quality post!

w00t!


...now that we have been graced with iPhone 4, I'm sure people are wondering how it's going to work with items sold on woot!, like some of the knives. Can they cut through iPhone 4?? That is the ultimate test!