reggaemyelitis wrote:Size begets resolution.

Nope, it sure doesn't. Most 32-48" HDTVs are 1280x720 or 1366x768, and even the largest HDTVs at 50+ inches are only 1920x1080 at maximum; while my 14" laptop is 1440x900 and my 24 inch desktop monitor is 1920x1200. Many 26- or so inch monitors are up to 2560x1600 in resolution.

Size has very little to do with resolution when comparing televisions to computer monitors, and resolution, not physical size, is the only one of the two that matters for graphics processing capability.

For all those people worrying about HD Flash video, "HD Flash" is an oxymoron. All flash video will compress so strongly that you lose the whole point of high-definition video in the first place. Yes it's marginally better, but I can't imagine it being a priority when you're watching stuff online in the first place.

The vid card is a bonus and you could not put the components together for that price : but if you try anything more than web surfing and running a few apps at a time , this sucker will choke. No heavy lifting. I built a similar one using an MSI chassis , so I know from experience . BTW if you do get one , immediately boost the memory to whatever the max is.

John in Florida

If I buy this, will it reach me in Bay Area, CA by 7/27?

hang tight for Google TV!

mike808 wrote:XP will be end-of-lifed by MS later this year.

You couldn't be more wrong. The original EOS date for XP was April 8th, 2014, but MS announced this week that downgrade rights will continue until Windows 7 stops shipping, which will be two years after Windows 8 is released. That means MS will be condoning and supporting new installs of XP until sometime late in the decade, possibly as late as 2020.

Hell, netbook/top manufacturers are still allowed to sell XP directly, without bothering with a downgrade, until October 22nd of this year. And XP SP2 just went end of support last Tuesday, almost 6 years after its release. SP3 will still be supported for a long time to come.

my wife has very low vision and has never used a computer before i was considering this to hook up to a 32" hd tv to let her browse the internet in larger screen size. any feedback?

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has already bought one during the last woot. It's spent more time at ASUS trying to get fixed than I could use it. Oh yea, got no love from from Woot when it broke.

This looks really tempting....I would love to be able to ditch any and all monthly payments revolving around the television, but I think my life would come to an end without a DVR of some type.

Sooooo.....this thing looks like it would probably make an OK PVR with an external HD attached for storage. I've looked all over the interwebs to find a (preferably free, but whatever) DVR application for a desktop, all to no real result. Anyone know of one? Windows Media Center, from what I read, will do it, but I'm not going to spend the money to upgrade this thing when I could get an actual Win7 machine on here, sans-tuner card, for $100 more if I just wait. Or I could wait for another deal on an HD Tivo, but there's a monthly payment, which I'd like to avoid. So if anybody wants to weigh in, go for it.

Does any one have a picture of the motherboard or know what motherboard this has?

I'm looking to use this for basic internet use at our cottage. I have a VGA/DVI Monitor. How can I make it work with this? IS there a DVI to HDMI converter? It states Video out: HDMI port x1 / DVI-D (through adapter).” Does the DVI-D adapter come with the unit or where would I pick that up? Any help would be greatly appreciated before I drop the Benjamin’s!

cubbiemi wrote:As someone who just was working on an Eee Box B202 for work I just wanted to mention you can take them to 2gig ram, its just not easy.

There are 2 screws on the bottom of the unit, and then you have to very carefully pry the plastic side free. There are several points where it clips in and they can be a bear to get at. The side fits very snugly and takes a bit of cautious handling to get it free without mushing the plastic edges.

At work we are using it to run the point of sale system, and the VESA mount will let us save more space to display product by moving from a tower to the itty bitty box on the back.

I see this being a nice computer for the kitchen, garage, etc. for someone who doesn't need an all powerful killer rig. (Surprise there are a lot of people who don't care if it can run the latest first person shooter at max resolution laglessly).

There is a robust group of people out there tinkering on these, and you can find a lot of detail and trial and error already taken care of for you.

Not for everyone, but a good price for a good computer.

What kind of ram do you need?
Thanks

EdTerrific wrote:Windows XP doesn't work for me. I'd have to turn it into a Linux box. Anyone know if there's any problems with that??

Ubuntu/Debian apparently works:

from http://www.amazon.com/review/R3AMG7Q62FM09G/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R3AMG7Q62FM09G

"was pleasantly surprised when I initially booted this machine up. It processes extremely well and is virtually quiet. You have to get really close to it to hear anything out of it. After a day or so of running on Windows XP I decided to commence my plan of using it as a Media Center. I loaded ubuntu linux and xbmc on it and after installing a couple other debian packages it was up and running with-in an hour. It's been 2 weeks and I haven't needed to reboot or re-install anything. I can watch HD Movies and listen to High Quality audio over my wireless connection (stored on a network pc) as smoothly as if they were being accessed locally. If anyone is looking for an inexpensive single purpose machine that runs ultra quiet and reliably... this is it. Good job Asus!"

No. This PC won’t play 720P or 1080p and wont stream 1080p; you need at about a 3 GHz single core processor or a 2 GHz dual core possessor to play Full 720p or 1080p smoothly. Some people modify videos or download modified HD videos on the internet and can play them on a single core 1.6 GHz but if you try to play a store bought blue ray disk on this PC it will not play smoothly. I have a 1.6 GHz dual core laptop with 2 gigs of ram and a decent videos card and it will not play 720p videos.

This looks like a competitor the Acer Aspire Revo:

http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/acer-aspire-revo-ar1600/4505-3118_7-33777218.html

I just picked up the Acer last week from CompUsa.com for $179.00. Looks like this one from Woot may be a better bargain at $189 because it comes with the wireless keyboard and mouse AND HDMI cable (at least another $20 expense), which the Revo did not come with.

As far a usage, I bought the Revo for my HDMI TV so I could stream Netflix and YouTube, and I also leave it on 24/7 to power my Magic Jack.

Get one - you won't be sorry.

I bought two of these last time around. Have one set up in my spare room (aka "library") for guests to use, and one in my living room for a "couch-side" computer.

The library computer is mostly in standby mode. It draws so little power in standby mode that the kill-a-watt I used to measure load didn't read anything. It wakes up from standby within 10 seconds, but because it's a USB keyboard/mouse Windows can take a few more seconds to redetect these. The minimal number of rear-USB ports (2 only) becomes important because one is used by the keyboard/mouse adapter and one is plugged into the printer/scanner I have there. If I wanted a permanent DVD drive then I'd have to get a USB hub or have an ugly cable sticking out of the front.

The living room PC is on all the time, and typically draws less than 20W. It's plugged into a 1080p HDMI monitor. Unfortunately it is a little underpowered; my 7 year old Athlon XP2500 runs faster than this. It shows when loading a program such as Word or Excel.

The video card is pretty good; it handles youtube nicely (with the latest flash) even in full-screen mode.

It can't stream DVDs over wireless, but that may be because I only have an old version of PowerDVD - it's possible newer software can offload work to the GPU. I've not attempted to stream BD because of that.

cowboyesfan wrote:Any idea if this will run OS/X?

Nope, wrong hardware.

A great use for this is using Netflix online streaming, which even makes use of high-definition video, and appears very nice on your HDTV. However, if you already have a PS3 or Xbox360, this is a little redundant.

rsth wrote:What kind of ram do you need?
Thanks

Here is the 2GB RAM Upgrade module from Crucial...

brucedoesbms wrote:Here is the 2GB RAM Upgrade module from Crucial...

What's the difference between the CT1024993 model, which Crucial recommend, and the CT25664AC667 which appears to have the same spec. The latter is on sale at J&R.

I considered going with something like this late last year for use as an HTPC. I instead went with a PS3 because it has BR and is "supposed" to play anything you throw at it.

It does not ... and I am not a gamer.

I have two reasons for not buying:

1) My last Woot did not go so well (Able Planet headphones).

2) The price surprises me. Usually, you get a significant discount from Woot. With this deal you get practically no discount at all.

sweh wrote:What's the difference between the CT1024993 model, which Crucial recommend, and the CT25664AC667 which appears to have the same spec. The latter is on sale at J&R.

I think that is the wrong board:

"200-pin SODIMM / CL=5 / Unbuffered / NON-ECC / 1.8V / Approximately 2.625x1.18" (66.7x30mm) / For MacBook, MacBook Pro, and iMac Notebooks"

oelschlegel wrote:ohhhh, so it's the SIZE of the monitor, not the resolution that matters. and here i had been thinking the opposite all these years! silly me!

yeah, I guess I'd like a little more clarification on this as well?!? What's the difference if you are output-ing to a 50-inch plasma, 24 inch lcd monitor or a dlp projector? Did I read that wrong or is it not true?

regscotty12 wrote:my wife has very low vision and has never used a computer before i was considering this to hook up to a 32" hd tv to let her browse the internet in larger screen size. any feedback? regscotty1@aol.com

She could do that and it would work fine for browsing and other simple tasks. Remember, the main selling point of this is its tiny size and that is very quiet. These issues may not be that important to her and you could get much better processing power for similar money.

brucedoesbms wrote:I think that is the wrong board:

"200-pin SODIMM / CL=5 / Unbuffered / NON-ECC / 1.8V / Approximately 2.625x1.18" (66.7x30mm) / For MacBook, MacBook Pro, and iMac Notebooks"

Hence my question; what is the difference? On Amazon people are happily using that "Mac" SODIMM on the EeePC 1000's, Aspire Ones and similar.

Is this just Crucial marketing, or is there an actual difference?

sweh wrote:Hence my question; what is the difference? On Amazon people are happily using that "Mac" SODIMM on the EeePC 1000's, Aspire Ones and similar.

Is this just Crucial marketing, or is there an actual difference?

By all means, if the Amazonites are doing it, then...

However, I would be wary of any warranty issues that may arise if, for some unfathomable reason, an incompatibility factor becomes apparent...

Appears that there is no VGA connection for monitor, correct?

Thanks.

These make a great HTPC. I have one being used a HTPC and another in the bedroom.

How would this thing do with World of Warcraft?

The previous Woot was $10 more than this one, and I bought the white one then (it came with slightly different HDMI/DVI adaptor and cabling, the machines are identical functionally).

I've been thrilled with its performance. We have an exercise room in the basement that has limited space - a treadmill, a wall-mounted 26" flat panel monitor, and an 18" shelf that sticks out from the wall barely 7" to hold a mini-DVD player. Adding the EeeBox and adding it to our wireless network has allowed us to stream web-based video adequately, but the killer app for us it the ability to use our networked SlingBox to view live TV or access the DirecTV DVR while working out. I have also ripped several of my DVDs to watch on my iTouch and all of the .mp4 files are archived on our NAS server - these are all available to watch as well. And we also have access to our huge mp3 music library if we're only in the mood for tunes. All of this is because of the EeeBox.

I added a cheap (<$10) IR remote control w/USB receiver from eBay to allow control of the PC without trying to use the keyboard or mouse while running. I mapped shortcut keys on the remote to each of the critical apps (MediaMonkey for music, VLC for pre-ripped videos, SlinboxPlayer for TV/DVR, Firefox if we wanna surf, etc), and dropped shortcuts on the PC's desktop in the same configuration as the two rows of remote buttons for the same apps. There are two rows of 4 icons on the bottom of the screen that correspond to the top 2 rows of remote control buttons. Click the screen or press the button - same thing.

I've lost 15 pounds in the last 6 weeks. NOT due to the EeeBox, but it's certainly helped.

steveg5489 wrote:Appears that there is no VGA connection for monitor, correct?

Thanks.

Correct. It just has HDMI onboard. It comes with an HDMI cable and DVI adapter, but if all you have on your display is a VGA hookup, this doesn't help you.

My desktop monitor has this problem, so I can only use this Asus eee with my TV.

Unless someone knows of a HDMI to VGA adapter?

thuender wrote:I'm looking to use this for basic internet use at our cottage. I have a VGA/DVI Monitor. How can I make it work with this? IS there a DVI to HDMI converter? It states Video out: HDMI port x1 / DVI-D (through adapter).” Does the DVI-D adapter come with the unit or where would I pick that up? Any help would be greatly appreciated before I drop the Benjamin’s!

Yeah, it comes with a DVI to HDMI Adapter. It's the yellow object in the "Black EEE Box PC Detail" picture and it is the last thing listed under "In the Box". You should be set.

Mikein920 wrote:yeah, I guess I'd like a little more clarification on this as well?!? What's the difference if you are output-ing to a 50-inch plasma, 24 inch lcd monitor or a dlp projector? Did I read that wrong or is it not true?

He was being sarcastic. The size of the display makes no difference at all, only the resolution. And the resolution of the display doesnt even matter... only the resolution you are OUTPUTTING.

The idea being, you could have a small super high-res display, and your pc might struggle outputting at the displays native res. But it could do just fine on a 50 ft jumbo tron outputting at VGA resolution.

atomizer wrote:Hmm, you know, I don't care about the things some of you are complaining about regarding this PC. We all obviously have other PCs that we use for gaming and other resource-intensive tasks. This is perfect as a secondary PC to use for Web browsing, productivity apps, music, and video (non-1080p.) My gaming PC alone heats up the room and even the whole upper floor in the summer; if I don't need to play a game it makes so much more sense to use a PC like this (or a laptop, etc.) with its 36W PSU. My desktop has a 700W PSU although according to my UPS it usually only uses half that, which is still 10x the maximum output of this Nettop's adapter. The real-world difference in heat output is tremendous.

Plus, I also plan to configure this as a headless unit, running a remote desktop connection. I haven't had a setup like that in a few years after the last one had a HDD failure and I never bothered to rebuild it. This Nettop is going to go right on the back of one of the 4 LCDs sitting on my desk right now, taking up no additional space. It even comes with the mounting hardware.

Seriously, some of you are being awfully critical about a sub-$200 PC. Sure it might make more sense to pay a little more and get a netbook if you don't already have one, but aside from that this is a decent setup as a secondary PC for most people and as a primary PC for many people. It may be a little slow as it runs Netbook hardware, but it should do all of the tasks listed above without much issue. Think about it: do your parents, or grandparents, or young children, really need to be able to do something this PC can't?

Excellent analysis. My bit torrent seed box is running on a seven-year-old Emachine 2.8 GHz Celeron laptop with a half a gig of memory. If I understand your use of the word headless correctly, then my setup is headless using a free account at Log Me In. I haven't had to reboot it to Windows XP OS in over a year unless it reboots during automatic OS updates. Naturally, the content HDD is external -- a 500 GB WD and I have 1 TB to add to it for backup and additional space. It has always been a little slow both intrinsically and even slower over Log Me In. How do you think this processor compares to P 4 2.8 GHz Celeron? The laptop I have will not last forever and is a 17 inch monster. What do you think -- would this be an upgrade for 24/7 seed box?

Dictated but not read. Seriously? You have a WP department or do you use speech recognition without correcting errors? If the latter, I sure would like to know what microphone you're using.

Dud wrote:

2) The price surprises me. Usually, you get a significant discount from Woot. With this deal you get practically no discount at all.

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=asus+eeebox+1006&scoring=p

I would say $60ish dollars is still quite a nice deal considering it starts at around $250. how low do you want? 140> Also, after a couple of hours of research this is still a highly reguarded nettop.


~Earlier someone mentioned earlier that WinXP had SP3 support for a while. In fact, windows had claimed to support the old OS until 2020. This thing will die by that time but at the very least I would have hoped that you would upgrade by then. =P

http://chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/07/microsoft-to-support-windows-xp-for-10-more-years.html

I will be buying this and will expect nothing less than the same quality that my Asus EEEpc 1005 HA-P has given me for almost a year. This should be very nice intro level htpc or imo a 2009 shell that can do anything that you could in 2002ish <.< I'm upgrading to the decoder chip set if possible as well.

In for 1. Does anybody know of a low-price (ie under $50), reliable dvd burner that can be hooked up to one of the usb ports on this thing?

Region2 wrote:It's been a while since I bought anything from woot off, but I needed a music server and something to browse the web/irc on, so this works.

If people want a cheap media player, the hisense is pretty good for around 50 bucks, it throws about every format I use and does it well. Just no streaming, but that's not such a big deal for me.

Anyways, in for 1

Does anybody know a link to a way to set up a music server like this? Better yet, a way to share my large mp3 collection so that I could also access it on my work PC (or any pc), and keep my playlists in the cloud?

blueconversechucks wrote:Correct. It just has HDMI onboard. It comes with an HDMI cable and DVI adapter, but if all you have on your display is a VGA hookup, this doesn't help you.

My desktop monitor has this problem, so I can only use this Asus eee with my TV.

Unless someone knows of a HDMI to VGA adapter?

Would this USB 2.0 to VGA adapter be helpful?...

regscotty12 wrote:my wife has very low vision and has never used a computer before i was considering this to hook up to a 32" hd tv to let her browse the internet in larger screen size. any feedback?

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speaking of low vision or no vision does this have enough to it to run JAWS? (screen reader software for people with low vision or no vision.)

ratmeleon wrote:Is this capable of only 720p HD quality, or can it stream 1080p without issues?

NO!!!!!

I bought one of these last time, if this is the same model, it can not. It is not the fault of the GPU or the CPU but it is a bus problem from what I can find out. You can read reviews where some get 720p fine and even 1080p and some just can't get 720p no matter what they do or OS they use. I read somewhere ASUS nerfed these ATi models by not giving the GPU a fast enough bus, and that makes sense since this GPU should play 1080p fine. On others they gave a faster bus and it would play 1080p fine hence the non-consistent reviews.

Anyway, I spent $50 on upgrading the memory and it still will not play 720p video. I've installed stripped down versions of Linux and it still lags in the desktop. I want to sell mine on ebay but have second thoughts about inflicting this piece of crap on anyone.

Like I said, if this is the same Asus Eee Box Nettop PC that Woot! had last time then don't buy this, it is not good for anything even a desktop web browsing machine.