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laura5055 wrote:There is no such thing as too much power. You will always want your computer go to faster.



Drop it off a cliff.

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It looks like it is near the bottom of their line, but the Core i5-430M has 4 processing threads making for a smooth experience:

Intel Core i5-430M

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Some info about the processor:

cpu-world

notebookcheck

and the Win 7/64 OS:

cnet

wikipedia

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impurity wrote:90 day warranty? Ouch! I had to send my Dell laptop (new) in twice during the first year. I extended my warranty and in the second year I had to send it in another 3 times. More times than not they send it back to me not completely fixed!



90 days is standard length on a refurbished electronics item, such as a laptop.

As for your Dell warranty experience, that is not typical.
I have maintained more than 10 machines over the years, from Dell. 4 laptops and a lot of desktops, for relatives and such.
None have ever required repair work.


Keep in mind that warranties for computers do not cover software/operating system(Windows) problems. They are a hardware warranty. Software malfunctions are separate, but most companies like Dell will try and troubleshoot Windows problems, and actually override the free Microsoft support, so that you call Dell, not Microsoft.
That means if you have to send the computer in for a repair, there is something physically wrong. If it comes back not fixed multiple times, the odds are in favor of it not having something physically wrong with it.


I speak from personal experience with computers, as well as working for an extended warranty company.


A refurbished unit from Dell, Sony, or even old Toshiba units, are perfectly fine for the most part.
If there IS going to be a failure due to a defective repair or part, it is going to happen sooner than 90 days.
Dell also still has one of the lowest failure rates in the industry.





Unless you actually want a good powerful machine able to do what your desktop can do(but portable), then I also recommend a netbook, as others have.

If you want to be able to anything your desktop can do(for the most part :P) then you are looking at a 17 inch machine(or larger) usually. That being said, the integrated Intel graphics card limits this machine to older games, or at least less graphic intensive, but will still handle anything else you want to throw at it... other than trying to render a video >.>

I personally use a 17 inch Vaio, and it is not really that heavy for me, but the size itself can be a problem.




This screen is also listed as 900p on the Dell site, but Amazon says 720p. Typically if you see something like this, it means the actual resolution is 900p. Amazon and other retailers tend to put the familiar resolution terms because more people understand what 720p is, an HDTV. Very likely, the native resolution is 720p and can be bumped to 900p(which is 1600 x 900).

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my brother bought one of these for the full price, they are defective don't buy them.

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adyb1975 wrote:It's high definition. It's not like you are buying a computer to need the actual resolution.




It's extremely important to me. If this thing only has a 1366x768 screen, I could just buy a 10" netbook and not have a giant hot behemoth to lug around.

How can they put such a pathetic screen in such a huge laptop? The thing should be at least 1920x1200.

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qvirus89 wrote:Looks like it's 1366x768. Works at 720p native resolution.


That's crap resolution for a 17 inch. My 17 inch DELL has 1920x1200.

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FallenAnjel wrote:How heavy is it?

(that sounds like a joke, lol, but it's not... it's a serious question..)

Oh wait, I'll check the website first. ;)

Found it:

Starting weight of 6.67 lbs (3.027 kg)3 (17.3" HD display, 6 cell battery).

I have a Gateway m7301u 15.3 and it weighs about 5lb or so. 6.67 would be heavy if your're carrying it around. Will have to weigh out 6.67lbs of nails at work tomrrow and see what it feels like, LOL.... ;)



By comparison, my Dell 17" Inspiron that is 2 years old, weighs just under 8lbs,, with battery, but not including the brick. This being newer, is sure to be lighter, even though it is a bit larger in screen size. But..I do drool at my cousin's brand new 18+" Toshiba with max-everything...that cost him $2000!!!!
Sigh...


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90 days is no good! I bought the 3 year warranty with my DELL. I NEEDED it! After almost 2 years I had bad pixels, the fans weren't working, the HD was about to quit and keys on the keyboard were rubbed off.

Dell replaced the motherboard, the memory, the fans, the screen, the keyboard, and the case, pretty much everything except the disk drive!

When the tech guy came to my house to fix it, he asked what is wrong? He said usually with that many parts, the phone people have no idea what is wrong, so they just send out everything!

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Necroclysm wrote:
This screen is also listed as 900p on the Dell site, but Amazon says 720p.



You'd think someone at Woot would boot one up and post the true resolution instead of some trademarked deceptive bs term or W*GA nonsense. Screen resolution is a big deal to me and I can't stand how everyone's trying to hide it lately.

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PolishPauL11 wrote:Whats the resolution???



According to the Dell Website the resolution is 1600x900 and the weight with a 6 cell battery is 6.35 lbs.

The tech specs website is http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspiron-1764?c=us&l=en&s=corp&~tab=specstab&~lt=popup

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Do they even make 17.3' carry cases? I always find them too big or too small. Why can't they ever just have a case to fit perfect and have an extra component that actually HOLDS the cords properly? Huh? Why? Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?

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pkokkinis wrote:Don't be fooled by the picture, this laptop is HUGE and heavy. At first glance, it almost looked like a netbook. Expect shoulder and back pains if you travel with it. And at 6 hundred, how is this a good deal? AND it's a refurb no less.



■Weight: 6.4lbs heavy
■Dimensions: 16.5” x 10.9” x 1.3” (L x W x Thickness) huge

if you cant carry this i dont think you should even use it

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hotrod4x5 wrote:90 days is no good! I bought the 3 year warranty with my DELL. I NEEDED it! After almost 2 years I had bad pixels, the fans weren't working, the HD was about to quit and keys on the keyboard were rubbed off.

Dell replaced the motherboard, the memory, the fans, the screen, the keyboard, and the case, pretty much everything except the disk drive!

When the tech guy came to my house to fix it, he asked what is wrong? He said usually with that many parts, the phone people have no idea what is wrong, so they just send out everything!



My power supply Died within the first 90 days, and was replaced...so, I thought it would be smart to add 3 years of warranty at the time! Now, after Your horror story....I think I will do a back-up, thank you!


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Batman4oz wrote:My power supply Died within the first 90 days, and was replaced...so, I thought it would be smart to add 3 years of warranty at the time! Now, after Your horror story....I think I will do a back-up, thank you!



A three year warranty has always seemed like overkill for something that's obsolete after a year.

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Duhhh wrote:Hmmm, not a great deal? It's a refurb, and you can find them on the Dell outlet website. I think I found the exact same system just now for $629. I think Dell offers free shipping, so the WoOt price is only $24 less than direct from Dell (c'mon, Amazonians - you can do better than this), plus there are often deals & discounts at the Dell outlet that could get you a better deal (especially if you are flexible with your specific requirements).



Dell Outlet stuff is also refurbished.

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Stargaziey wrote:Here's the product page from dell:
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/inspiron-17r?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs



But on that page, if you click "design," it says "Choose from glossy colors: Mars Black (standard), Peacock Blue and Tomato Red," and you can find the Woot laptop on Google by searching for "Dell Inspiron 17.3" Obsidian Black."

Furthermore, if you compare the right-side views of the Woot photo and the one in the Dell gallery, the connections are completely different.

And then there's the obvious - the model numbers are different!

And if you search for this model on Dell Support, you get as far as "Laptop," "Inspiron," and there's no model number close to this one's.

The mystery continues...

edit: I think this might be it: Inspiron 17 (1764)

It is presently offered in "Ice Blue" or "Promise Pink", but there's a black one in the gallery, and it has the "1764" in the model number, and looks the same as the Woot pictures.

The mobility Radeon card (which the Woot model doesn't seem to have) is the same one listed in reviews for the Woot model number (there's a different one offered with the 17R).

Here's the accessories page.

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That's about 3 1/2% more screen area than a 17" display (289 square inches for the 17" versus 299 for the 17.3"). 10 square inches is a fair amount of real estate.

Erick R Williams
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pest789 wrote:A three year warranty has always seemed like overkill for something that's obsolete after a year.



Why, thank you! This Does mean that YOU are going to Buy me a New One!? Since I can see around me right now an HP Desktop with Win 98...an HP Desktop with Win XP...an HP Laptop with Win 2000...(I Hate HP!) and this Dell Laptop with Win Vista (my main computer)...I am not in any position to be buying anything new!! Unless someone wants to buy the 3 HPs off me!


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rookaloo wrote:Dell has been notorious for faulty motherboards and very poor customer service. Don't buy a refurb.



I don't like to talk smack about products too much because I figure it's just me that got a bad one, but since you said it first, here goes:

1. I used to buy Dell products almost exclusively (notebooks, PDAs, desktops, monitors and even an LCD TV).

In fact, in my house I have three Dell desktops that still run fine (one is from 2007, the other two from 2003!)

2. However, I will no longer buy Dell notebooks or LCD TVS, and depending what I read and hear, maybe no more desktops when it comes time to replace my XPS "gamers" machine.

Why?

3. In the past I have had two Dell Inspiron notebooks simply stop working. And both were just off warranty, so Dell told me to take a hike, even though the forums and blogs said my particular notebooks had defective motherboards and/or graphics chips.

4. And the 26" Dell LCD TV also just stopped turning on one day. Research revealed that the TV too had a defective chip that Dell fixed on the successor model.

And people whose TVs went out within the warranty period (there were a lot of those people, apparently) were given new TVs, the replacement model with new chip.

However, even though this was a confirmed defective design, those of us whose TV went out AFTER the warranty expired were told to take a hike.

Some people who pestered Dell enough got their TVs replaced, even after the warranty expired, but those people were few and far between.

Most of the accounts posted on the Net were people complaining that Dell said to take a hike.

So based on these three experiences and from other complaints I have heard about Dell, I will never buy another Dell product.

That's the only power I have, to make decisions with my wallet.

Sorry Dell, I simply don't trust you any longer. Besides, I have heard on the Net that when you wanted to achieve "biggest PC seller on the planet" status you apparently compromised quality and customer service. From my experiences that appears to be true.

Take a read here and you can decide for yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/DellComplaints

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Does it have a built in mic?

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As someone who works on laptops constantly, I can tell you a refurbished Dell is a gamble. As someone who's been researching and looking for a laptop for a while, I can tell you this price is crap. Newegg has similar deals from better manufacturers on a regular basis. I feel like Woot really sold us out. I like Amazon, but I don't like Amazon owning Woot.

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MichaelSF wrote:I don't like to talk smack about products too much because I figure it's just me that got a bad one, but since you said it first, here goes:

1. I used to buy Dell products almost exclusively (notebooks, PDAs, desktops, monitors and even an LCD TV).

In fact, in my house I have three Dell desktops that still run fine (one is from 2007, the other two from 2003!)

2. However, I will no longer buy Dell notebooks or LCD TVS, and depending what I read and hear, maybe no more desktops when it comes time to replace my XPS "gamers" machine.

Why?

3. In the past I have had two Dell Inspiron notebooks simply stop working. And both were just off warranty, so Dell told me to take a hike, even though the forums and blogs said my particular notebooks had defective motherboards and/or graphics chips.

4. And the 26" Dell LCD TV also just stopped turning on one day. Research revealed that the TV too had a defective chip that Dell fixed on the successor model.

And people whose TVs went out within the warranty period (there were a lot of those people, apparently) were given new TVs, the replacement model with new chip.

However, even though this was a confirmed defective design, those of us whose TV went out AFTER the warranty expired were told to take a hike.

Some people who pestered Dell enough got their TVs replaced, even after the warranty expired, but those people were few and far between.

Most of the accounts posted on the Net were people complaining that Dell said to take a hike.

So based on these three experiences and from other complaints I have heard about Dell, I will never buy another Dell product.

That's the only power I have, to make decisions with my wallet.

Sorry Dell, I simply don't trust you any longer. Besides, I have heard on the Net that when you wanted to achieve "biggest PC seller on the planet" status you apparently compromised quality and customer service. From my experiences that appears to be true.

Take a read here and you can decide for yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/DellComplaints



Well, maybe You are jinxed worse than I am after all! I have had nothing but trouble with all 3 HPs, so that brand is dead to me. But, I can't explain why my cousin's wife's new Dell just died on her one day, and when she borrowed her husband's fairly new HP laptop, IT died! So....either we are All jinxed, or ALL brands just suck! Technology is Evil!


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Batman4oz wrote:My power supply Died within the first 90 days, and was replaced...so, I thought it would be smart to add 3 years of warranty at the time!



I use SquareTrade for stuff like that. They are pretty nice.

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bitethat wrote:Do they even make 17.3' carry cases? I always find them too big or too small. Why can't they ever just have a case to fit perfect and have an extra component that actually HOLDS the cords properly? Huh? Why? Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?



I picked up a great one at Best Buy for about $50. Its made by Swiss Army accessories and fits the laptop as well as my cords and a few textbooks.

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misterjohnny wrote:My dad is looking for a laptop. Basic email and tracking his stocks in retirement. Is this too much power for him?



Yes, although the large screen might be nice if he is visually impaired. Sounds like all he needs is a netbook, which costs $199-$300. The flipside, of course, is that the screen and keyboard are smallish. You can always add an external monitor and keyboard if necessary. Alternatively, you can get him a cheap mini-desktop like the Asus that Woot had a few weeks ago. That can be connected to the TV which is nice for seeing the children/grandchildren through Skype, etc and watching DVDs and other multimedia apps.

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bitethat wrote:I use SquareTrade for stuff like that. They are pretty nice.



Oh, I wish I had known about them then! I use them a lot now....got 3 years on an Acer laptop for my niece that was one-third the price from Acer! Just bought a new little gadget this week, Circuit City wanted more than $30 for a warranty, but I got it for $8.44 at Square Trade!! Love Square Trade! (When you are on a fixed income, that did Not increase this year--thanks Obama--but my home insurance went up 30%....you gotta save where you can! And, yes...I Really Needed the new gadget!)


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ManFromDavie wrote:How would this resolution spread across 2 monitors? Would it only do 680 X 360? If I wanted 1900 X 1080 across 2 monitors would I need a graphics card capable of 3800 X 2160?



Think of any HD monitor you attach as a second screen. You can configure it to be an exact copy of what is on your monitor or an extension desktop. Even if you use it for a second desktop, it works independently of your actual screen.

So, for example, if you're watching a movie, it generally doesnt stretch across both screens. You'd be watching it on one leaving the second screen open for other applications. You wouldn't need a powerful HD graphics card capable of running an insanely high resolution... You'd get the full HD on the second monitor and the maximum display of your PC screen working together yet independently.

Sorry if this doesnt make sense... I just worked a 13 hour shift and its really time for bed ;)

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spatchcock wrote:i would pick this up if it wasn't so heavy!



That's what she said !

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misterjohnny wrote:My dad is looking for a laptop. Basic email and tracking his stocks in retirement. Is this too much power for him?



Yes it is.

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I had an earlier version of this on my desk at my last job. This is a desktop machine that is easier to carry. It was big, it was heavy, but it looked good and ran well. I had a Core Duo, with an I5, this thing should scream along just fine. But it weighs almost 6 and a half pounds, and you will want an extra battery for long trips, so expect to carry 8 pounds plus extras.

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gosh just got the 15 inch i3 one like 3 months ago from Best Buy....makes me want to cry for not waiting for this one. I love the one I have btw, this one is just bigger bang for the buck.

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Stargaziey wrote:Here's the product page from dell:
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/inspiron-17r?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs



With due respect, that's not the same model.

Here's a link to this model class (1764) - with specs and customer reviews - in the Dell official outlet store, where you can get an idea of the refutbished prices too. Indeed, here's a link to roughly the right spec of this model, new from Dell, for $850+.

New computers have newer (not necessarily faster) processors, and other differences, like larger/smaller and faster hard drives, or better graphics cards.


I had a Dell I bought in 1999 and kept it for 3 years. It was a brick, but a well-running, efficient, and reliable one. Indeed not like the Horrible Poo brand usually sold.

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MichaelSF wrote:I don't like to talk smack about products too much because I figure it's just me that got a bad one, but since you said it first, here goes:

1. I used to buy Dell products almost exclusively (notebooks, PDAs, desktops, monitors and even an LCD TV).

In fact, in my house I have three Dell desktops that still run fine (one is from 2007, the other two from 2003!)

2. However, I will no longer buy Dell notebooks or LCD TVS, and depending what I read and hear, maybe no more desktops when it comes time to replace my XPS "gamers" machine.

Why?

3. In the past I have had two Dell Inspiron notebooks simply stop working. And both were just off warranty, so Dell told me to take a hike, even though the forums and blogs said my particular notebooks had defective motherboards and/or graphics chips.

4. And the 26" Dell LCD TV also just stopped turning on one day. Research revealed that the TV too had a defective chip that Dell fixed on the successor model.

And people whose TVs went out within the warranty period (there were a lot of those people, apparently) were given new TVs, the replacement model with new chip.

However, even though this was a confirmed defective design, those of us whose TV went out AFTER the warranty expired were told to take a hike.

Some people who pestered Dell enough got their TVs replaced, even after the warranty expired, but those people were few and far between.

Most of the accounts posted on the Net were people complaining that Dell said to take a hike.

So based on these three experiences and from other complaints I have heard about Dell, I will never buy another Dell product.

That's the only power I have, to make decisions with my wallet.

Sorry Dell, I simply don't trust you any longer. Besides, I have heard on the Net that when you wanted to achieve "biggest PC seller on the planet" status you apparently compromised quality and customer service. From my experiences that appears to be true.

Take a read here and you can decide for yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/DellComplaints



Ah yes, true, I forgot. My Dell stopped working suddenly too. I think because the CMOS battery died and it was impossible to find it to change it. Or maybe something worse. But by then I'd bought a Compaq laptop in 02, before its quality had been ruined by HP's idiocy.

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here's the Dell outlet link for the same laptop - http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/SecondaryInventorySearch.aspx?rn=4670&SC=&c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh

It's a huge heavy laptop so I wouldn't carry it around a lot. If you like a large screen and keyboard, then it's ok. I don't like the slow 5400rpm drive when 7200 drives are everywhere, even on laptops. Still, it's not a bad price.

I have several Dell laptops that I bought from the outlet and have had great luck with them. We buy Dell's at work too because they are reliable.

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misterjohnny wrote:My dad is looking for a laptop. Basic email and tracking his stocks in retirement. Is this too much power for him?



Simply, if all he REALLY needs it for is basic word processing, spreadsheets and a bit of surfing, then turn him toward a netbook...

However if he want's something to replace the aging desktop he's had since 01... well... bigger is better, especially for those with failing eyesight!

But, for a replacment to a desktop, you might do to better look at a lower AMD processor laptop, but with something like a 5650 graphics card in it... seen those around for about this price.

Totally depends what you want for your dad, and what your dad really wants himself!



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adcommandproc wrote:Can the ram be increased to 8 gigs?



RTFF It says it can in the Product Specifications, under the picture : ) IMHO

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bitethat wrote:Do they even make 17.3' carry cases? I always find them too big or too small. Why can't they ever just have a case to fit perfect and have an extra component that actually HOLDS the cords properly? Huh? Why? Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?



I have a Targus CPT401DUS, about $48 from Amazon. It holds my HP perfectly, with enough extra room in the main compartment for power cords (in its own little bag that came with the case), Targus PA248U2 Chill Mat, remote mouse, and a couple other small items. The outside compartment easily holds a textbook and some odds and ends.

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jkwon wrote:500g = no need
17.3 = too big for some people
graphics intel HD? ....

600 for this is a rip off especially for refurbished. If you want to purchase a laptop simplest way is to go to bestbuy. Bestbuy offers 18month w/ 0 interest and you can find good laptops better than this crappy inspiron for a similar price.



Best Buy? Best Buy,really? I don't even go in theirs stores anymore. Have a link to a better deal at Best Buy? Would not have even thought about Best Buy? Thanks in advance for your help.