branflake12 wrote:be weary folks...
http://www.thegreenestdollar.com/2009/02/eco-canteen-product-review/

I love my kleenkanteen (yes it was $16 for one, but none of what you will read in the link)

it's late... i am exhausted. should we be WARY, too?

MPDredd wrote:Thanks for the denture cleaning tablets to clean water bottles, never would have thought of that!

No problem. If there's a lazy way of cleaning something, I'll probably find it.

In for 12 (on my two accounts).

I try to use containers other than plastic bottles nowadays. While I use glass bottles, that I refill, I much prefer metal since they don't shatter like one of my glass bottles did one time.

I plan on making most of these XMAS gifts. (Keep four for myself.)

By the way, you would use these too if you saw on Discovery Channel just how much environmental damage is caused by 1) making the plastic bottle; and 2) these ending up in the landfill.

Guess it's not feasible, but if I had my way I'd pass laws outlawing Styrofoam (especially those packing peanuts) and plastic water bottles.

Just sayin.

branflake12 wrote:be weary folks...
http://www.thegreenestdollar.com/2009/02/eco-canteen-product-review/

I love my kleenkanteen (yes it was $16 for one, but none of what you will read in the link)

this is actually a good product review.

the company is a bunch of fly-by-night losers.

tesla33 wrote:The only problem I see is they don't seem to have caps for the spouts. The more fastidious among us need those to keep cooties off the part we sip from. My Kleen Kanteen has a cap. It's also more than twice as expensive. Good deal, though, for a (presumably) Chinese water bottle...

The cap is built in. It pops up to allow you to drink the fluid...pushes down to seal the canteen. Easy peasy.

roxannez wrote:Thanks for the useful link! I put my credit card back in my wallet after checking out those product reviews.

That review is from a completely different model of water bottle. I wish people would actually look at the picture of something reviewed before they post a link here!!!!

It's not insulated and the inside of the cap isn't stainless steel. I'll stick to my more expensive Klean Kanteen. Been using it for 4 months and wouldn't trade it for anything.

UFGatorHawk wrote:How do these compare to SIGG water bottles?

Sigg water bottles are made out of aluminum, so they have a proprietary 'plastic' coating on the inside. If you are shying away from plastic bottles, even reusable ones, stainless steel is the way to go. Not sure on the quality of these, but the Klean Kanteen's are good.

All of the reviews are about the company's poor customer service and shady business tactics. Ordering these through Woot! bypasses that all. I see nothing wrong with this since we're not buying them from the seller. Woot! has already acquired them for us

branflake12 wrote:be weary folks...
http://www.thegreenestdollar.com/2009/02/eco-canteen-product-review/

I love my kleenkanteen (yes it was $16 for one, but none of what you will read in the link)

I am weary of improper linkage... it should state EcoCanteen Review ...

wootasourous wrote:I don't have this Eco-Canteen, but I have a stainless steel bottle and it works really well to fill it with water and put it in the fridge, especially because stainless steel is a great conductor of hot and cold temperatures.

Stainless steel is a crappy conductor of heat. That's why cookware made of stainless uses aluminum encapsulated in the bottom or all over: the stainless is for durability, and the aluminum is to evenly distribute the heat.

You really don't want a good conductor for a water bottle, though, unless you want cold hands and water that warms quickly.

rjohnson313 wrote:These are stainless steel and SIGGs are aluminum. I have one of each, and the SIGG seems thicker because of the lining (thus more sturdy), although using stainless steel has its benefits. For one, it doesn't have to have a lining to prevent potentially dangerous aluminum-leaching. Here's a website that sums up some of the differences:

http://www.mindfuleats.com/mindfuleats/2009/02/water-bottles.html

Although, after reading the link posted by branflake12 I'm not sure I want to support this company with an additional purchase.

if their product is on woot, they're probably already out of business.

Don't plan on keeping anything cold. Steel has a very high thermal conductivity coefficiant versus plastic. I have put a tray of ice cubes in one and had luke warm water in an hour. Also, be careful where you place it since it makes very heavy condensation.

They have ran some allegedly deceptive ads about bottled water plastic bottles being poisonous, and got caught for it.

I'm strongly against disposable bottled water, but the claims in their ad are pretty ridiculous. Eco Canteen isn't helping the environment, they're just cashing in on the eco-friendly movement...and I don't think it's cool to cheapen the eco-friendly movement.

One other thing to keep in mind: if you already have a reusable water bottle (plastic or not), the most eco-friendly thing to do is to keep using it! Replacing it with an eco canteen will only hurt the environment with the impact of manufacturing and shipping the eco canteen, and recycling/landfilling your old bottle.

MichaelSF wrote:In for 12 (on my two accounts).

I try to use containers other than plastic bottles nowadays. While I use glass bottles, that I refill, I much prefer metal since they don't shatter like one of my glass bottles did one time.

I plan on making most of these XMAS gifts. (Keep four for myself.)

By the way, you would use these too if you saw on Discovery Channel just how much environmental damage is caused by 1) making the plastic bottle; and 2) these ending up in the landfill.

Guess it's not feasible, but if I had my way I'd pass laws outlawing Styrofoam (especially those packing peanuts) and plastic water bottles.

Just sayin.

I work for a packaging supply company, we have three kinds of peanuts, one kind is made of corn and dissolves in water. The other two only take a year to biodegrade. I can't imagine many companies actually using 'real' Styrofoam anymore.

The spout is hard to see in the picture and the other websites showing the product have different caps. When kids stick a water bottle in with a whole backpack of expensive textbooks and library books, the most important feature of any water bottle is the seal and how well the cap works. Does anyone know how well the seal and spout on this bottle works?

Any actual dimensions on this container... I would like to know if it fits into one of those flexi-mesh side pockets found on most day/backpacks... without falling out or overly stretching the retaining band...

thickglasses wrote:Sigg water bottles are made out of aluminum, so they have a proprietary 'plastic' coating on the inside. If you are shying away from plastic bottles, even reusable ones, stainless steel is the way to go. Not sure on the quality of these, but the Klean Kanteen's are good.

So, I was at Burning Man, and was using my Sigg aluminium bottle for drinking wine out of. Unfortunately it ended up with a funny flavour in it. Was this because the wine was interacting with the plastic? Or because I didn't wash the bottle out immediately? Can I put wine in any metal or plastic container for drinking. If you can drink it out of plastic glasses, surely there's a non-glass bottle I can use for convenience on the Playa...

thickglasses wrote:I work for a packaging supply company, we have three kinds of peanuts, one kind is made of corn and dissolves in water. The other two only take a year to biodegrade. I can't imagine many companies actually using 'real' Styrofoam anymore.

You can actually eat the corn ones .

By the way, a nice thing about metal bottles is that they are way more sanitary than reusing plastic bottles.

On the Discovery Channel the show had some doctors who discussed just how much bacteria collects inside plastic bottles, even if you wash them.

With these metal ones, put the bottles in the dishwasher lower rack, the caps on the upper rack, and they are super sterilized.

Bonus Tip: I like to keep bottles of water everywhere. So these small diameter bottles are great (fit in the car's cup holder).

I keep two bottles in the car at all times, one by the bed (that's been great when I wake up with a parched mouth and throat) and one by the computer area.

If you don't drink the water much, make sure to rotate the water bottles every few weeks. And wash the bottles before swapping them.

If you want to be super safe, put a tablespoon of bleach into each bottle of water. (Oh wait, that's supposed to be done on each 5 gallons of emergency water I keep in the basement. Never mind.)

brucedoesbms wrote:Any actual dimensions on this container... I would like to know if it fits into one of those flexi-mesh side pockets found on most day/backpacks... without falling out or overly stretching the retaining band...

do you have dimensions for your flexi-mesh side pocket?

Most of the past complaints were on shipping.

A few reviews mention being charged $90+ for four bottles.

They should've waited for wO0T!

richardhod wrote:So, I was at Burning Man, and was using my Sigg aluminium bottle for drinking wine out of. Unfortunately it ended up with a funny flavour in it. Was this because the wine was interacting with the plastic? Or because I didn't wash the bottle out immediately? Can I put wine in any metal or plastic container for drinking. If you can drink it out of plastic glasses, surely there's a non-glass bottle I can use for convenience on the Playa...

this is why beverages are sold in aluminum cans, even though steel is so much less expensive. the steel, even stainless, will react with acidic beverages.

branflake12 wrote:be weary folks...
http://www.thegreenestdollar.com/2009/02/eco-canteen-product-review/

I love my kleenkanteen (yes it was $16 for one, but none of what you will read in the link)

Why should we be tired? Do unfavorable reviews cause fatigue?

thickglasses wrote:I work for a packaging supply company, we have three kinds of peanuts, one kind is made of corn and dissolves in water. The other two only take a year to biodegrade. I can't imagine many companies actually using 'real' Styrofoam anymore.

I know of some alfalfa packing "peanuts" that can be used for livestock or humans alike...

Because these make great XMAS gifts, especially for relatives and friends who drive in for the holidays from out of town, these will sell out before tomorrow afternoon.

Any bets?

in for 4!
cant go wrong with this price. and its better than plastic

a helpful tip:

These bottles will conduct electricity. Do not use them in a lightning storm. especially if you have braces.

Cycospaz2 wrote:You can boil something in this, but I would imagine the outside would be hot to the touch

Absolutely, that's why steel bottles are the hikers' first choice. Water can be boiled in the bottles over an open fire in a pinch so there's no need to tote the extra weight of a water purifier or cookpot.

I'm not digging these particular bottles though. I can get nicer bottles at a cheaper price at the local Meijer.

moogtorran wrote:I am concerned about the many negative comments on the web about the manufacturer and refuse to buy products when customers are not treated in a professional manner.

Are these stainless steel bottles made in China?

AFAIK, all of them are made in China. Some claim to be "ethically made in China" for what that's worth...

Don't know anything as to the quality of the product. It does look to be of good quantity though, as I would want my water bottles to hold at least 20oz.

That being said, I still use plastic water bottles. I use the same plastic water bottle for 3 months at a time, then recycle them and replace them with new ones.

If everyone refused to make a purchase based solely upon someone else's single experience with a product or company, then they would never buy a product again. Someone always uses it incorrectly, doesn't read directions, didn't understand what they were buying, misread the functions, abused it, etc. Consumers are lazy and stupid... i love open box items at electronic stores.. 99% user error for the product return..

Todays WOOT is a Stainless Steel Bottle to hold a liquid in. Hopefully something that can be consumed.. I bet someone will fill it with glue and them post a review that they cannot squeeze the last drops out....

also, if you're worried about a plastic lining, throw them into the campfire and you'll find our for sure very quickly.

In for 6

All the negative reviews complain about the company's customer service, and the crappy ordering process on their website. But Woot takes care of that for me. So I can get cheap water bottles.

Other than that, I don't need customer service. It's a water bottle, not a computer. There's not much that can go wrong with it. And for this price, I can just chuck it in the trash if it starts having problems.

brucedoesbms wrote:I would like to ask for some clarification on one of the EcoCanteen "myths":

"Use of EcoCanteen will have no effect on the size of a male user’s testicles."

What, exactly, does this mean?...

No actual effect...perceived effect is a whole 'nother smoke.

craigthom wrote:Stainless steel is a crappy conductor of heat. That's why cookware made of stainless uses aluminum encapsulated in the bottom or all over: the stainless is for durability, and the aluminum is to evenly distribute the heat.

You really don't want a good conductor for a water bottle, though, unless you want cold hands and water that warms quickly.

You know I think the OP meant to say "insulator"

vinithehat wrote:this is why beverages are sold in aluminum cans, even though steel is so much less expensive. the steel, even stainless, will react with acidic beverages.

Aha.. yes with steel, thank you for that reminder.. but my problem was the inside-plastic coating of a Sigg bottle (from an offer on the clymb, incidentally, if you want an invitation.. you'll get me free money from this link .

Perhaps I just needed to use the denture-cleaning tablets in my bottle first!

tesla33 wrote:AFAIK, all of them are made in China. Some claim to be "ethically made in China" for what that's worth...

and everyone's typing about these concerns on keyboards assembled in asian sweatshops...

http://bit.ly/4E2Wj

Size-wise, these are a little bigger than the usual .5 liter plastic water bottles. 26 ounces is approximately 3/4 of a liter.

We usually tell our scouts to bring 2 liter bottles on long hikes so I don't think these will quite do the trick - but they'll do well to replace the ubiquitous plastic water bottle.

Another note - REI website reviews of similar stainless steel bottles warn that the sport caps are NOT leakproof. Keep them upright.

so, how big is 26 Oz. What's that in millilitres? bigger than a 750ml water bottle for my bike, or smaller?

edit: PWND! you anticipated my post by SECONDS!