I use this site to generate my WPA keys:

http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/WPA_key/generator.php

stevesds wrote:Wireless-N 150Mbps, but only 100Mbps for wired ports??
What a crock!!

Wired ports don't go faster than 100Mps unless its gigabit...

moliva914 wrote:I was thinking about getting this to replace my god-awful Belkin setup I have now with which I've had similar experiences with. What brand would you guys recommend?

Netgear and Linksys are the ones to get, IMHO. I have a Netgear at home, and most of my small-business clients have Linksys. They all work great. Netgear is usually less expensive.

LEM- wrote:Oh, and on the topic of USB adapter:

Is it just a generic WiFi dongle that will work with any wireless router/hotspot, or is it married to this specific unit?

Generic; it should work with pretty much any N router.

(I say "pretty much" because there is a possibility, because of the state of the N standard, that two units by different manufacturers are not compatible, but it's quite rare.)

wootasourous wrote:Linksys.

This one in specific.

IIRC doesn't that have a maximum internet throughput of about 15mbps? Most cable connections are around the 20-25mbit range these days

Skeletor916 wrote:Well you're certainly not helping by speaking ill of WEP.

WEP was cracked. I think that was over 10 years ago.

Are they white because they're Mac-compatible?

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I've had 4 wireless routers and they all sucked. I am currently looking to replace my SMC (It needs to be rebooted every hour) or add several backups - that I can have going at once, so when one crashes, I just switch over to the next on. What are the odds of getting 2 bad SMC routers in a row...hmmmm

I would really love to get a Wireless-N router. It really does seem to leave G in the dust, but I just cant see giving up the stability of my WRT54GL for this.

EDIT: Now if this were compatible with tomato firmware, that would be a whole other story.

SinnFein wrote:Yes. It has bridge mode functionality. I was just looking at the manual.

http://www.smc.com/files/AX/UG_SMCWBR14S_N4.PDF

Sweet. I'm in

enseyn wrote:I would really love to get a Wireless-N router. It really does seem to leave G in the dust, but I just cant see giving up the stability of my WRT54GL for this.

I have that exact same router and it blows everything else I've tired out of the water.

koreylewis wrote:Wired ports don't go faster than 100Mps unless its gigabit...

That's his point. The fact that it's only 10/100 on the wired ports means they could potentially be a bottleneck.

My D-Link wireless router has gigabit ports, 3 antennas and does 300MB wireless. But, then again it cost me 5X the price of this unit.

koreylewis wrote:Wired ports don't go faster than 100Mps unless its gigabit...

Not true. In full duplex you have 200Mbps. 100 in each direction.

For those wondering, SMC isn't a no-name brand; they're just not as prominent in home products as Linksys or Netgear. They're more on the business end of things.

I've seen some complaints about documentation and ease of setup with them, which would probably be explained by the above. If you're not familiar with router firmware you might want to go with one of the more prominent for-home-use brands.

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SinnFein wrote:Remember, this is only a Wireless-N 150Mbp device. It's not "true" Wireless-N which is 300Mbp.

Considering the price, I am contemplating getting one because the wireless signal is kinda spotty downstairs where my wife's computer is located. I have an ethernet down there, but the jack is on the other side of the room.

Still, if they're no good as wireless routers, can you perhaps use them to make barricades for political protest purposes?

Th0r wrote:WEP was cracked. I think that was over 10 years ago.

It was a joke, and a damn funny one.

SinnFein wrote:That's his point. The fact that it's only 10/100 on the wired ports means they could potentially be a bottleneck.

My D-Link wireless router has gigabit ports, 3 antennas and does 300MB wireless. But, then again it cost me 5X the price of this unit.

bottlenecks for what? wireless has much more latency. more bandwidth potentially, but what needs more than 100mb in a consumer environment? streaming bluray isn't even close to that. and wired ports are generally 100mbit each(wireless ap + switch) rather than 100mbit total(hub)

enseyn wrote:I would really love to get a Wireless-N router. It really does seem to leave G in the dust, but I just cant see giving up the stability of my WRT54GL for this.

EDIT: Now if this were compatible with tomato firmware, that would be a whole other story.

I really been looking at Wireless N routers myself and ones that support 10/100/1000 wired but every one I have seen so far has terrible reviews or at the least mixed reviews.

I still have my dependable WRT54GL myself and it is sad that they just haven't come out with something as stable that is faster yet.

I hope some day they do.

wootasourous wrote:I have that exact same router and it blows everything else I've tired out of the water.

What Firmware do you have installed?

equazcion wrote:For those wondering, SMC isn't a no-name brand; they're just not as prominent in home products as Linksys or Netgear. They're more on the business end of things.

I've seen some complaints about documentation and ease of setup with them, which would probably be explained by the above. If you're not familiar with router firmware you might want to go with one of the more prominent for-home-use brands.

Thank you! So, are these things more reliable than the crummy Netgear and Linksys home brands?!

Hi does anyone know if I could use this a a wireless bridge? I know its only 150 but just wondering. Thanks.

Th0r wrote:Not true. In full duplex you have 200Mbps. 100 in each direction.

150Mbps is the physical layer rate, the actual TCP throughput is 90Mbps at best.
Given this is a very low end router, I highly doubt you can get anywhere close to 90Mbps wirelesss throughput...

For the 10/100 ethernet ports, you can typically get TCP throughput of 95Mbps, assuming CPU isn't the bottle neck.

Prior to the Cisco/Linksys merge, SMC was the most reliable inexpensive SOHO router around ... However, around the merge is when SMC's firmware became really finicky - if you didn't configure the wireless exactly right you'd get drops several times a day, requiring router reboots, and configuring these things was a pain (and firmware updates were few and far between).

Nowadays, an inexpensive Linksys running DD-WRT has everything you could ever want. I really can't imagine you spending your money and time more efficiently (unless you truly need nothing more than a wireless access point).

Soapie0 wrote:So, I get deleted if I ask for advice on a non-router issue? The Woot board is the only place I know with technical people that love to give advice.

Fine, I'll wait until you post wireless headphones, Woot, and then pray that I can get all my questions answered before you sell out or I fall asleep.

No more Bacon Floss for you!

look up Sennheiser. you wont find better

wootasourous wrote:Linksys.

This one in specific.

I roll with Asus, RTN-16 to be exact.

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I hear that the reason most routers are so crappy is that the power adapters they come with are garbage and feed them unstable power causing all kinds of issues. Got this from a dd-wrt engineer.

RTN-16 is 500mhz and runs tomato. It's a monster.

For all those asking about the ability to out of the box flash this baby with dd-wrt, the answer is no as per dd-wrt's supported router database, and their forums.

I suspect this is either due to an unsupported chip, or lack of memory to cripple it from any other functions..


Merry Christmas, drive thru.

brie987 wrote:Hi does anyone know if I could use this a a wireless bridge? I know its only 150 but just wondering. Thanks.

earlier post

koguma wrote:I roll with Asus, RTN-16 to be exact.

Here

I hear that the reason most routers are so crappy is that the power adapters they come with are garbage and feed them unstable power causing all kinds of issues. Got this from a dd-wrt engineer.

RTN-16 is 500mhz and runs tomato. It's a monster.

I roll currently with an old Dell 280 running the x86 version of dd-wrt - I could route my town with the thing if needed

vsavage wrote:It was a joke, and a damn funny one.

I think the biggest joke is that the wireless companies still ship their equipment with WEP as an option. Looking around at the APs I can see right now I'd say 25% of them are still using WEP as well.

overslacked wrote:

Nowadays, an inexpensive Linksys running DD-WRT has everything you could ever want. I really can't imagine you spending your money and time more efficiently (unless you truly need nothing more than a wireless access point).

Except for the bandwidth limitations

So will this be good for the Xbox 360 and PS3? My Qwest router always losses it's UPnP for some reason.

Carfanatic wrote:I really been looking at Wireless N routers myself and ones that support 10/100/1000 wired but every one I have seen so far has terrible reviews or at the least mixed reviews.

I still have my dependable WRT54GL myself and it is sad that they just haven't come out with something as stable that is faster yet.

I hope some day they do.

If you have an older iPod, Netbook, or any other device that will use b/g wireless, don't bother trying an N yet. If any of those aren't a concern, the dd-wrt forums discuss some very well-supported N hardware.

I'm running two WRT310N (v1) and, for me, I actually got much more stability with g versus n, because of my legacy devices.

bigwayneo wrote:I understand this is a router. But what is different/special about this versus my Linksys wireless router?

The price is very low for an N-router with an adapter.

dissatisfiedcustomer wrote:MAC address filtering is best.

MAC filtering alone is about as secure as WEP.

With minimal skill, you can *easily* spoof a MAC address.

WPA-PSK + MAC filtering will dissuade most WiFi freeloaders.

bhcompy wrote:Except for the bandwidth limitations

I'm not aware of any bandwidth limitations with DD-WRT specifically; or are you referring to the hardware?

mmachado95833 wrote:Can it work with an Xbox 360?

M_A_C wrote:So will this be good for the Xbox 360 and PS3? My Qwest router always losses it's UPnP for some reason.

The first review at Amazon says yes to XBOX 360.

This guy keeps losing connection with his PS3.

hi guys. I have a router in my basement and I have two laptops on the ground floor. Many times it works well but many times the signal is too weak.
I am looking for some sort of signal extender so that the laptops on the ground floor are always connected.
Is that adapter supposed to do that?
If not, does anyone know where to find something that does?

Is this the feature we mean when we say wireless bridge?

In for one.

I'm assuming the range would be better than my standard Verizon FIOS router?

overslacked wrote:I'm not aware of any bandwidth limitations with DD-WRT specifically; or are you referring to the hardware?

the hardware. using wlan it won't max out most cable internet connections and it really struggles with pppoe(which some dsl providers still use)