kabob983 wrote:People put way too much stock into 120Hz. Sure it's nice but if you put similar spec'd TVs next to each other, one at 60Hz refresh and one at 120Hz, 80%+ of people couldn't tell the difference. Similar to smaller TV's and 720p vs. 1080p.

Sorry you've never owned a 120 Hz TV. I have 2 Samsungs both 32" and one is 60 Hz and the other is 120 Hz. The difference is quite noticeable.

Well hell, I just bought one. I was more concerned with the 1080 then the 60 Hz or whatever it's called. I am a woman and electronically challenged but couldn't pass up this deal. My son has a 1080 Samsung 32 inch top of the line and does alot of gaming and watching DVD's. But it's only a 32 inch but he loves Samsung. So I will let him pick which one he wants. Either way I think you can't beat the price and my girls room still have the old tv type flat screen so somebody is getting a new TV. Not Mama!

No web apps? Pass.

i'm deciding between this woot and this deal i found on sonystyle.com.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666081157

any suggestions? (sorry i'm an amateur at this, dont know how to post direct link)

booshpanda wrote:1080p isn't noticeable by the human eye on TV's under 42in.

It absolutely is. Distinguishing 1080 from 720 has as much to do with distance from the TV as it does with screen size.

I bought this same TV from Woot in November. It was $20 more at the time, and was the best price for this set at the time. I use it as my computer monitor and for my Blu-ray enjoyment. It's the perfect size for my needs.

kreegah wrote:The higher refresh rates reduce artifacts. Which is a shame, really. Fewer artifacts put Indiana Jones out of business.


Quite rightly, after that last film, I feel.

I found that on my LG 55" 120 Hz LCD that when I turn on the 120 Hz smoothing feature, it actually introduced artifacts. I end up watching at 60 Hz anyways, so I agree that it's not such a big deal. I'm in for one of these for the bedroom.

shep1111 wrote:You did notice that I have 0 quality posts.....

+1 Awesome posts in my book

rcisdabomb wrote:i'm deciding between this woot and this deal i found on sonystyle.com.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666081157&XID=A:4485850:10396361:u0t2732817f9fp48087c0s525:CJ&ref=http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2732817

any suggestions? (sorry i'm an amateur at this, dont know how to post direct link)

I'm partial to Sony, my main two TVs are Sony currently. They make good products.

But there is a lot more that goes into it than that, and i'm not going to even try and compare them.

eldiablohijo wrote:You did realize that i'm not serious...

I am serious, I used to have a job drying off wet TV's.

kreegah wrote:The higher refresh rates reduce artifacts. Which is a shame, really. Fewer artifacts put Indiana Jones out of business.


Quite rightly, after that last film, I feel.

Quality Post!

I have the 42" 120hz version of this television and REALLY like it. I don't think you can beat Vizio sets at "bang for the buck".

Well I bought one and I hope I like it. I have been looking for a inexpensive 37" Visio for my livingroom that fits my pauper budget.

It has to be an upgrade from my 27" Sony Trinitron CRT even at 60Hz refresh rate!

60Hz vs 120Hz is noticeable, but that doesn't make 120 better. Maybe for watching football or the ilk, but when you're watching a movie that smooth creaminess that it creates is ugly. It's not how you would see it in a theater, and it's not how it was designed when it was shot.

kungfugrip wrote:It absolutely is. Distinguishing 1080 from 720 has as much to do with distance from the TV as it does with screen size.

you are incorrect.

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I'm still using a 15 year old CRT - I could really use this one. If only Woot would take payments

has anyone been burned by buying a refurbished tv from woot? I have never bought a refurbished item and I'm a little nervous especially since it will be a gift for the hubby.

has anyone been burned by buying a refurbished tv from woot? I have never bought a refurbished item and I'm a little nervous especially since it will be a gift for the hubby.

gibbypoo wrote:Sorry you've never owned a 120 Hz TV. I have 2 Samsungs both 32" and one is 60 Hz and the other is 120 Hz. The difference is quite noticeable.

That's nice. So you've got two TV's by the same manufacturer, when were they made? What type of panel is in them? What's the difference in contract ratios? There's alot more that goes into a TV's picture than the refresh rate and resolution...

357Enthusiast wrote:I found that on my LG 55" 120 Hz LCD that when I turn on the 120 Hz smoothing feature, it actually introduced artifacts. I end up watching at 60 Hz anyways, so I agree that it's not such a big deal. I'm in for one of these for the bedroom.

Agreed. My buddy dropped quite a bit of coin in a 55" Samsung LED a few years ago and couldn't stand watching anything in 60Hz. So many people rush out to buy a TV because it has that "120 Hz" label on the box and then discover they hate it while others love it, alot of that has to do with what you're watching. To each their own.

Null537 wrote:60Hz vs 120Hz is noticeable, but that doesn't make 120 better. Maybe for watching football or the ilk, but when you're watching a movie that smooth creaminess that it creates is ugly. It's not how you would see it in a theater, and it's not how it was designed when it was shot.

I agree, I think 120 hz looks really weird for normal tv viewing. But I THINK all or most with 120 hz have the option to switch to 60.

I bought this a week ago through woot at the same price. I'd comment on the TV, but I haven't received it yet.

Welp, I've been looking at TVs and this deal was too hard to pass up.

Plus it's my birthday, so happy birthday me. The tax on this hurt tho.

booshpanda wrote:you are incorrect.

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cuz she has coke bottles for glasses lmao

booshpanda wrote:you are incorrect.

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Don't forget your "I"'s and "P"'s. That makes all the difference in your video quality dispute.

kabob983 wrote:Agreed. My buddy dropped quite a bit of coin in a 55" Samsung LED a few years ago and couldn't stand watching anything in 60Hz. So many people rush out to buy a TV because it has that "120 Hz" label on the box and then discover they hate it while others love it, alot of that has to do with what you're watching. To each their own.

I got a plasma to avoid that debate...and also because one day I hope to re-engineer it as a plasma cannon. I figure I've already got the plasma part, so all I need is a cannon. Maybe this'll be the woot-off for it!

Iz looking for a monkey, bag o' carp, Woot T-shirt or a flat screen between 23-34" kthnx

wants that crap!

booshpanda wrote:you are incorrect.

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Nope, you've been misinformed.

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter
http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

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carla1628 wrote:has anyone been burned by buying a refurbished tv from woot? I have never bought a refurbished item and I'm a little nervous especially since it will be a gift for the hubby.

This was my third refurbed Woot TV and our second Vizio. I bought it last time it was on regular woot. It is out for delivery today. We have never had any problems with them. Well one of them got zinged with a power surge after four years of use but I can't blame woot for that!

Bouncing button... NEXT!

Not worth it...not refurbished. You can get a NEW TV at this size around the same price (and possibly 120hz) if you keep your eye on other deals around the net.

In for one...

My kiddos threw a ball into my vizio 37" 720p last night. I really liked the tv.

Thank goodness for a WooToff today and a 1080p upgrade for a great price.

Now all I need is some torture devices to 'play' with the kids and my WooToff day will be complete ;)

carla1628 wrote:has anyone been burned by buying a refurbished tv from woot? I have never bought a refurbished item and I'm a little nervous especially since it will be a gift for the hubby.

There are so many different things that classify as "refurbished" nowadays that a large portion of the time the TV is essentially brand new. It varies from manufacturer to manufacturer though. Something as trivial as a MFR deciding to update the power cord, so they have to remove all the old power cords from their current stock and put the new one in. Well, to them it no longer counts as "brand new" so they sell it as refurb.

Don't be surprised if you get the TV and it looks like it's never been touched. I'm not sure about Vizio but I'd assume it'll be in good shape.

I have to wonder if some of the people complaining about the 60Hz refresh are doing so simply because 120 is a bigger number. Personally, I find the "smoothing" to look unnatural.

kungfugrip wrote:Nope, you've been misinformed.

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter
http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

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As a person with eyes, yes, the difference between 720p and 1080p is noticeable on my 37" LCD. There are so many factors involved in this discrimination, but mostly it comes down to pixel density (which has an absolute value along with a perceived value based on distance/field of view).

rufusrex wrote:I bought this a week ago through woot at the same price. I'd comment on the TV, but I haven't received it yet.

I was kind of hoping to get my TV this week, but your story is making it sound like its going to take half a month...

Forgot to mention earlier.... missed out on getting this on woot about a week (?) ago, managed to snag it this time! woo(t)hoo!!!

Has anyone had their TV ship yet?

TLau08 wrote:Has anyone had their TV ship yet?

NO! Just checking to see what is the deal?!??!

Nope, post if you find out anything...