I agree with ALL of the people who said something to the effect that "The game gave More people a Chance to obtain a Big o' Cosmos" based on the facts that:
It was available Much Longer than usual. If you had enough time to play the game even once before it sold out, you had more of a chance than you NORMALLY would have had. Typically, 2500 orders would have sold out in No Less Than 20minutes even with the servers crashing. That being said, NOBODY who logged in any later than 12:20CDT would have had ANY chance At All! If you logged in later than that, you have NO REASON TO COMPLAIN because you actually did have MORE of an opportunity than normal! Getting the Big o' Cosmos is ALWAYS a "Game Of Chance" or a "Crapshoot" this time it was, literally. If you cannot handle that, stay away from casinos! I also don't think that the Bot users have much of an advantage but then again, my computer is slow so what do I know? The bottom line is, if you can't handle losing for FREE don't bother trying to "Win" because that is the only time that the Big o' Cosmos costs you any money. Any other costs are by YOUR CHOICE and you need to learn to be responsible for YOUR OWN ACTIONS like an adult!

The thread is not dead yet.

It's getting better...

Actually, what will happen when people get their loot? It looks like every level has a separate thread. Will the loot get entered on the level on which it was won? Will everybody just post on Level 10?

I'm lying awake at night pondering these eventuals!

kfergus wrote:Oh, and did I mention this thread is likely pretty dead now until people start getting their delivery notices. Waiting for the first real delivery because that is where the fun begins. What did everyone get?!! Woo Hoo!

sleetish wrote:Is anyone else still playing crapshoot?

I am.

http://www.woot.com/?crapshoot if you want to crank those wasted hours up to 11.

I had to see that the Konami code does indeed work. Very funny. Is it just the music that changes?

ReginaFilangee wrote:Methinks your math skills might need some slight tweaking there, msruru. Let me see if I can find my calculator.

Hmmmmm.....750 craps per level. 10 levels.

How in the WORLD did you come up with 1200???


Oops....I just now see that you edited your post. Just hafta pick on ya anyway. ;-)
Would you like some Ambien, too? I think it's past all of our bedtimes, especially since we stayed up a wee bit late last night playing a goofy video game just for the priviledge of forking over 8 bucks for a dollar's worth of someone else's garbage.

Yes, immediately deleted. was sleep typing

bolashoof wrote:There are definitely more ab-normal than "normal" people on here. No matter how you look at it.

NightGhost wrote:I read at least one claim of 3. Sounded legit, but let's not forget what day it was.

I probably will get death threats for outing myself, but I amazingly got three - all on the same account. (Someone else says they got three the same way)

I had Wooters.us running and at 1am it immediately sent me to the order page for a Level 1 crap. As soon as it went through, I got another alert from Wooters so I hit it and got a Level 2 crap.

Because everything moved so quickly, I had not yet read the description about the game. When I did, I thought the game idea was the april fools' joke because it never came up for me - just the wooters pages. When I tried to find the game, that was when the servers crapped out.

Later in the day, I read ComputerCarl's posts about getting in through a back door so I tried it for S&G's. I never expected it to work given other peoples experiences, but it wound up working and I got a Level 10.

I never expected to be able to get more than one because Woot will say that you have already ordered the item (anyone trying to get a bag with more than one browser who gets through on one can attest to that). But, I figured in the end that because each level seemed to be a separate item, that was why I and others were able to get more than one (as opposed to getting two for the same level).

It definitely was not expected and cannot imagine it ever happening again. I was not trying to game the system, I just got incredibly lucky.

Here's my account page.

I agree with ALL of the people who said something to the effect that "The game gave More people a Chance to obtain a Big o' Cosmos" based on the facts that:
It was available Much Longer than usual. If you had enough time to play the game even once before it sold out, you had more of a chance than you NORMALLY would have had. Typically, 2500 orders would have sold out in No Less Than 20minutes even with the servers crashing. That being said, NOBODY who logged in any later than 12:20CDT would have had ANY chance At All! If you logged in later than that, you have NO REASON TO COMPLAIN because you actually did have MORE of an opportunity than normal! Getting the Big o' Cosmos is ALWAYS a "Game Of Chance" or a "Crapshoot" this time it was, literally. If you cannot handle that, stay away from casinos! I also don't think that the Bot users have much of an advantage but then again, my computer is slow so what do I know? The bottom line is, if you can't handle losing for FREE don't bother trying to "Win" because that is the only time that the Big o' Cosmos costs you any money. Any other costs are by YOUR CHOICE and you need to learn to be responsible for YOUR OWN ACTIONS like an adult!

bolashoof wrote:Everyone should head over to the Level 10 thread to keep everything in one place now.

Since you've spammed the other 9 levels with this message, I'm staying out of L10 and posting to all the others.

I agree with ALL of the people who said something to the effect that "The game gave More people a Chance to obtain a Big o' Cosmos" based on the facts that:
It was available Much Longer than usual. If you had enough time to play the game even once before it sold out, you had more of a chance than you NORMALLY would have had. Typically, 2500 orders would have sold out in No Less Than 20minutes even with the servers crashing. That being said, NOBODY who logged in any later than 12:20CDT would have had ANY chance At All! If you logged in later than that, you have NO REASON TO COMPLAIN because you actually did have MORE of an opportunity than normal! Getting the Big o' Cosmos is ALWAYS a "Game Of Chance" or a "Crapshoot" this time it was, literally. If you cannot handle that, stay away from casinos! I also don't think that the Bot users have much of an advantage but then again, my computer is slow so what do I know? The bottom line is, if you can't handle losing for FREE don't bother trying to "Win" because that is the only time that the Big o' Cosmos costs you any money. Any other costs are by YOUR CHOICE and you need to learn to be responsible for YOUR OWN ACTIONS like an adult!

I agree with ALL of the people who said something to the effect that "The game gave More people a Chance to obtain a Big o' Cosmos" based on the facts that:
It was available Much Longer than usual. If you had enough time to play the game even once before it sold out, you had more of a chance than you NORMALLY would have had. Typically, 2500 orders would have sold out in No Less Than 20minutes even with the servers crashing. That being said, NOBODY who logged in any later than 12:20CDT would have had ANY chance At All! If you logged in later than that, you have NO REASON TO COMPLAIN because you actually did have MORE of an opportunity than normal! Getting the Big o' Cosmos is ALWAYS a "Game Of Chance" or a "Crapshoot" this time it was, literally. If you cannot handle that, stay away from casinos! I also don't think that the Bot users have much of an advantage but then again, my computer is slow so what do I know? The bottom line is, if you can't handle losing for FREE don't bother trying to "Win" because that is the only time that the Big o' Cosmos costs you any money. Any other costs are by YOUR CHOICE and you need to learn to be responsible for YOUR OWN ACTIONS like an adult!

First ever Big o' Cosmos. Pretty excited :D:D:D:D

I can't believe they haven't got here yet! Woot made me stay up until 5am to get mine! There's no reason they shouldn't have gotten here by now. It's only a 20 hour drive for pete's sake!

But seriously, here's hoping this my second Big Orphaned Cetacea turns out better than my last one!

zelfren wrote:Ignoring your bitter desire for woot employees to meet a horrible fate, I'll say this: you're seriously upset that it took longer this time? That's your argument?

I'd just like to point out that the longer it took, the more of a chance YOU had. Letting it sell out in 5 minutes, as you said, leaves you with nothing. Letting it go for over 10 hours gave you one heck of a chance.
Just sayin'.

Incorrect. Statistically, with the difficultly of the game and the increasing requirements you had LESS of a chance to getting the reward.

ROI. Return on Investment. Before: You saw the target, attempted for 5 minutes, it became obvious you weren't getting through, and you moved on. You got nothing, but you only spent 5 minutes of your time. Nothing gained, but nothing loss.

Now: Many people spent HOURS to get nothing. And this wasn't passive waiting to see if they got the right number combination in a side browser window and clicking it once every while... this was active effort playing an unfair time waster of the game that served to cause even more investment of time and effort. THIS is why people are ticked off.

Also, the ROI for people was significantly different between everyone. Some people didn't have to do anything, got in at the early levels, spent an hour to be met with errors, and other situations.

The time of availability doesn't help ROI. Having it go longer just increased the investment required on a random chance of return. It's bad economics, statistics, and ethics.

But... by some strange circumstances... People like wasting their time out of proportion to the reward granted. I guess this is why MMORPG's with all their excessive grinding do so well. What a strange state of the world.

bryanws wrote:Incorrect. Statistically, with the difficultly of the game and the increasing requirements you had LESS of a chance to getting the reward.

ROI. Return on Investment. Before: You saw the target, attempted for 5 minutes, it became obvious you weren't getting through, and you moved on. You got nothing, but you only spent 5 minutes of your time. Nothing gained, but nothing loss.

Now: Many people spent HOURS to get nothing. And this wasn't passive waiting to see if they got the right number combination in a side browser window and clicking it once every while... this was active effort playing an unfair time waster of the game that served to cause even more investment of time and effort. THIS is why people are ticked off.

Also, the ROI for people was significantly different between everyone. Some people didn't have to do anything, got in at the early levels, spent an hour to be met with errors, and other situations.

The time of availability doesn't help ROI. Having it go longer just increased the investment required on a random chance of return. It's bad economics, statistics, and ethics.

But... by some strange circumstances... People like wasting their time out of proportion to the reward granted. I guess this is why MMORPG's with all their excessive grinding do so well. What a strange state of the world.

Point well taken on the ROI but, it was the choice of said people to invest such time into obtaining the ever elusive Busted Old Chevy. If these same people who are so infuriated by the fact that they "wasted" so much time had instead just decided not to play at all, the Baby Of the Cosmos would not have sold out. THAT would have sent a bigger message to Woot than ALL of the complaining combined. Just a thought.

matt1976 wrote:Since you've spammed the other 9 levels with this message, I'm staying out of L10 and posting to all the others.

How Rude! LOL!!

bolashoof wrote:Everyone should head over to the Level 10 thread to keep everything in one place now.

OK!

NightGhost wrote:I read at least one claim of 3. Sounded legit, but let's not forget what day it was.

I ended up with two (Level 1 and Level 2) before I even knew what was happening. I had multiple browsers open, and in the usual heady cloud of the first appearance of the Bag of Crap, I just kept clicking "I want one" any time it appeared, and filling out the buy it page any time I managed to see that. It wasn't until after the servers came back a while later that I realized that I had bought two!

Then, the next morning, my wife got one on level 9. So we have three coming to the house total.

bmw66x wrote:You got 2 as well? Radical. Join the club of the most hated Wooters on the planet, Nightghost.

Club members:

bmw66x
bcurtiswx

and maybe a few others. Like 750 others.

Can we make a club for people with 3 craps?

Not to brag or anything

redscot68 wrote:Point well taken on the ROI but, it was the choice of said people to invest such time into obtaining the ever elusive Busted Old Chevy. If these same people who are so infuriated by the fact that they "wasted" so much time had instead just decided not to play at all, the Baby Of the Cosmos would not have sold out. THAT would have sent a bigger message to Woot than ALL of the complaining combined. Just a thought.

True. If people had known beforehand how ridiculous it was going to be, that would have been the case in all probability. The trouble is that people entered into the gambit without such knowledge available and only came to the realization AFTER a significant investment in time. When people invest so much effort and come so close, it becomes very hard to let go, let all the effort go to waste, and have nothing to show for it in the end. At that point people's frustration and stubbornness are competing. As seen, when frustration finally wins out, it's not a pretty sight.

sleetish wrote:Is anyone else still playing crapshoot?

I am.

http://www.woot.com/?crapshoot if you want to crank those wasted hours up to 11.

You can get there more directly with https://sslwww.woot.com/crapshoot/game

Woot! should program it so every X players can actually get to buy a BOC, with X being a relatively large number. Intermittent reinforcement. It would drive some people crazy!

It was a good thing I got mine at the very beginning as I can't even get the darn game to work.

auphex wrote:I had to see that the Konami code does indeed work. Very funny. Is it just the music that changes?

Music and a woot-off light is added to the snail

drgandalf wrote:I ended up with two (Level 1 and Level 2) before I even knew what was happening. I had multiple browsers open, and in the usual heady cloud of the first appearance of the Bag of Crap, I just kept clicking "I want one" any time it appeared, and filling out the buy it page any time I managed to see that. It wasn't until after the servers came back a while later that I realized that I had bought two!

Then, the next morning, my wife got one on level 9. So we have three coming to the house total.

My story is similar to yours. Seeing as how you've been here so long, I don't feel bad that I made the same "mistake.":
I was afraid, at first, that since the actual GAME hadn't come up yet, that I was going to have to make it through the buy process 10 times before it sold out and I KNEW my old computer would never make it without crashing! Then I got the payment confirmation email for the Level-2 Carp and thought "Aw Hell No, I'm not paying $86.60 with sales tax for 1BOC!" I figured Aw We, the Hitchhikers, I'll see if I can make it through the Level-3 buy process before my comp crashes, even if I get charged a 3rd time! That's when the jig was up and I realized that I had been APRIL FOOLed in a good way! Thanks Again WOOT!
P.S. A new (refurbished) computer would be nice. (Right!) Just saying.

auphex wrote:I had to see that the Konami code does indeed work. Very funny. Is it just the music that changes?

How do you use the Konami code?

drgandalf wrote:How do you use the Konami code?

At the title screen when loaded push the arrows keys and buttons as follows

up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, ENTER

That will do it!

I got a level 2 and a level 3 crap on the same account. I think wooters.us triggered auto-buy for levels 1 and 2, although I had no idea there were levels or even a game at the time. I tried to buy level 1, pushed the final big button but that one failed. I successfully bought level 2, still without even knowing the game existed. Then one or two hours later I bought a level 3 crap in the Flesh game.

I didn't (knowingly) cheat and I didn't use multiple accounts.

nyke15 wrote:Can we make a club for people with 3 craps?

Not to brag or anything

Well, technically, the club is for peeps who got more than 1 bag, so join in! Edit: NightGhost is not a part of the club. He told me so.

dropzone9540 wrote:Your suggestion to read the "What is Woot" link intrigued me.

I read it and it only says, "Only one account per email address and credit card number is allowed." It doesn't expressly forbid multiple accounts if you have enough email addresses and credit cards.

Now, it also says, "There is a maximum of 3 units purchased per order with 1 order per account each day." Again, they just say maximum of three per account. Nothing in there forbidding multiple accounts either.

I also read through the terms of service and couldn't find anything in there either. So... while it may be against the spirit of fair play, the people that have gone through the trouble of having multiple accounts aren't breaking any woot rules that I can find.

Am I missing something?

Haven't read it recently, but it DID talk about "no, you can't hog it all for yourself....leave some for everyone else" in a good-humorly snarky manner. That's all I meant. Lots of people get around that by making multiple accts. To each his own.

And if people successfully bought on different levels due to a glitch that was unknowingly to their benefit, well....that's no fault of their own, and I am quite happy for them! :-)

bryanws wrote:True. If people had known beforehand how ridiculous it was going to be, that would have been the case in all probability. The trouble is that people entered into the gambit without such knowledge available and only came to the realization AFTER a significant investment in time. When people invest so much effort and come so close, it becomes very hard to let go, let all the effort go to waste, and have nothing to show for it in the end. At that point people's frustration and stubbornness are competing. As seen, when frustration finally wins out, it's not a pretty sight.

Dude....

You're going to have some major problems out there in the world as you grow up. Seriously. Hang onto that mental outlook if you like, but it's not gonna get you anywhere in life. You're not going to EVER have anything but disappointment if that's your way of thinking/feeling. "I ain't no psychiatrist".....but you might do yourself (and those who live around you) a favor if you talk to one sometime. I'm scared you're gonna have a stroke or heart attack before you hit 30. I'm not trying to be critical....only helpful. I'm a surgeon, and don't want you to end up as a statistic.

stuntdriver wrote:At the title screen when loaded push the arrows keys and buttons as follows

up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, ENTER

That will do it!

THANKS!!!! I've been wondering what that meant and how to do it, too.

Although....

It does sorta sound like some new macarena-style dance.

bolashoof wrote:Everyone should head over to the Level 10 thread to keep everything in one place now.

Weird request, considering over 6000 bags weren't sold on that thread :P

Woot -- I have regained my love for you! lol. Finally my own Big Orphaned Cetacea. :D It was love at first sight.

so for all thst will track their crap on this discussion here is a repost from LEM

LEM- wrote:Well,

FedEx SmartPost primer for newcomers, and a reminder for the rest of Wooters (v. 1.5.2)

1. Before the tracking information shows up: Sometimes Woot is not e-mailing the tracking numbers until a few days after the packages are shipped. You can try and get the number by reference, by going to https://www.fedex.com/AltRefTracking?cntry_code=us and entering these three things: Your Woot order number goes to reference numbers box, select United States in destination country drop down, and Your Zip Code in a respective box. It's important to get all three pieces. Keep refreshing it, and if you're lucky, the tracking number will pop-up before the official e-mail comes. It doesn't ALWAYS work, but there's a good chance. Note, that if you've made multiple orders from Woot, you can enter several order numbers into the reference box, one per line.

1.1 If your weight shows as 1lb, it is most likely a placeholder, which will be replaced by more accurate weight once the package actually starts moving (or reaches a sorting station - see below). The dimensions will probably show as NA/NA/NA on those placeholder packages. Some people have reported packages showing as 1lb all the way until delivery, but turned out to be anything but, though there's always a slight chance that your package actually is a 1 pounder. So you never know.

1.2 To make it even more frustrating - the actual fact that you can track by reference, but if it shows as a 1lb with status Shipment information sent to FedEx does not yet mean the package actually shipped or even exists. All it means - a label which will eventually be attached to your package has been printed. It may be a few days before your beloved box will actually hit the road. Patience is the key here!

1.3 So how do we know for sure that BоC's are out? Keep looking through this thread, and you may spot a post by threepiecewoot or on rare occasion another staff member, stating that all packages are shipped. Sometimes it will take FedEx a while before they show up or update, but once it's said here on the forum, you can be sure that they are out! Also keep an eye on other staff members posts announcing possible shipping delays or otherwise!

1.4 Some wooters report being able to track, but not me! Am I screwed? No, you are not. The tracking numbers don't get into the system all at once. The track by reference starts working when FedEx receives your package info from Woot. They send them in batches, and if someone has a reference hit, does not mean everyone gets it at the same time. Sometimes it's days between batches are sent, and sometimes electronic info on some or all packages is not sent at all, which means not trackable by reference until it arrives (even if trackable by actual tracking number received from Woot). The actual tracking information (if you have tracking e-mail sent to you or it shows up on your order page) gets updated as the package is actually scanned at FedEx location. Provided that Woot ships them by truckload, it may not be instant at all, nor they will appear all at once. Sometimes it's not 'til the next day when you see it live, even if there are others that got scanned early in the game. Remember, if threepiecewoot said that all packages are out - they are. It may take some time for them to go live, a day or two between first reported trackable package until the last one shows up in a system is not unusual...

2. To get the dimensions you need to create My FedEx account (no charge, and you don't have to give them cc number if you don't want to): http://my.fedex.com/ and make sure to switch to new or advanced version. Enter your tracking number, and the dimensions will pop...

2.1 Another way to get dimensions: If you have problems with My FedEx site, or just to make things easier - you can also download a very convenient FedEx Desktop application. It uses the same log-in credentials as your My FedEx account (you'd still need to have one), and tracks the same packages right from your desktop, without the browser.

3. Don't get too exited. For the first few days most people will probably have some sort of cubed dimensions. This is because in the beginning the dimensions are not real. They are guesstimaged by FedEx based on weight (which may or may not be accurate). Here's the famous formula for you to check:

SIDE = ( 330 * WEIGHT ) ^ (1/3)
(side in inches, weight in lbs)

If it matches your dimensions to a few tenths of an inch - you know they are not real. That's for smaller packages. Those over 15lbs would always have the "dimensions" of a 15lbs package (or was it 16)... Again not real...

4. Once your package passed the first sorting station - the updated weight and real dimensions may show up. Usually that's the first or second stop it makes after Dallas. In my case (North-East) in either Martinsburg, WV or at Kansas City, KS (I am yet to understand the logic SmartPost uses in sending the packages one route or the other), for many others it's New Berlin, WI or another major SmartPost hub. In some cases actual weighting/measuring may not take place even at the SECOND hub... or ever...

5. USPS Handoff: Once the package is reported to have passed a city near you - start tracking it on http://www.usps.com/, because that's who's delivering it to your door, and once the package is handed over by FedEx, they will have more up to date information. Do make sure that you track by actual tracking number (it will show up if you got a hit with reference tracking), because USPS does not track by reference. A thing to note - when handed over to USPS, FedEx always says a standard "allow 2-3 for business days for delivery". This is a standard message, and if your USPS facility is efficient enough, you may get it delivered as soon as the day of handoff (if it happened early enough).

Good luck to all waiting for their hauls, and let the Woot Gods bless you with some amazing crаps!

One more gargleblaster! That is so epic! I wish I would have thought to do that when the game first came out.

bmw66x wrote:Well, technically, the club is for peeps who got more than 1 bag, so join in! Edit: NightGhost is not a part of the club. He told me so.

I had forgotten all about April 1st, but I got one immediately at level 1 (that first post I made in that forum was after I got it).

I did get curious about the game and tried it, but even though I made it to level 4 on my first attempt, it gave me an error and wouldn't let me buy. I found the game too boring, and gave up after that, telling myself that the right thing to do was let others have a chance.

To be honest, I don't know if I would have been so righteous if the game had been more fun. And I certainly don't blame anyone else for taking the opportunity to buy more than 1. It's up to Woot to prevent that if they want to.

Craptacular Song

From Woot of yesteryear

re: Konami Code.... I tried the code a couple of times over the last day and a half, to no avail. till, that is, I read the 'step by step for dummies version' a few post ago. Thanks!

ANYWAYS... the game was obviously programmed to allow for people (smarter peoples than me)... the music changes to the Woot Off theme and the snail gets a Woot Off light on his back.

BUT, I still died when I hit an obstacle...

SO, what does usage of the code accomplish when it comes to winning the game?

can't wait to get my breast pumps :D

The Big o' Cosmos. A crappy frontier. I tried to picture packages of crap as they moved through the Smartpost. What do they look like? Sansas? Roombas? Were the boxes full of screaming monkeys? I kept dreaming of a world I thought I'd never see. And then, one day...
I got in.

bmw66x wrote:Well, technically, the club is for peeps who got more than 1 bag, so join in! Edit: NightGhost is not a part of the club. He told me so.

OK so what is the club for folks that played the game ..got the Big o' Cosmos buy button...but the system would not let them buy? By the time the woot servers processed my credit card...they were selling something else and it sold out...

JEEZ....

and the Konami code is not working for me. chair keyboard INTERFACE id10t ERROR...