Ringo4422 wrote:Oh! You are among so many that got suckered into the 1080P marketing hype. You will NEVER see the difference between 720P and 1080P with a screen of this size. Even with Xray eyes.

size doesnt matter. there are benefits to both resolutions, but a 1080p bluray on a 32" absolutely looks better than a 720p bluray on a 32". you're telling me that having over twice as many displayed pixels wont be a noticeable difference? have you ever compared the 2 yourself? b/c i have and it's noticeable.

also, 720p is nearly useless when used as a computer screen, which more and more people are doing. 1080p is the only way to go when using it as a screen or HDTV with HD content.

720p is, however, better at displaying native 720 content. if the signal or source is only available in 720p it will look better on a 720p TV than a 1080p b/c the 1080p HDTV will upscale the signal to fill the screen. this creates pixelation and blurriness.

now whether it's worth the extra money or not is an entirely different subject...

Bought one of these a few months ago. Great TV, works perfect. 720p is fine for a 32".

ginbak wrote:I love my 30 inch monitor. Pooh to all the nay-sayers. But is does make it hard to work on anything smaller. When I have to go to someone else's workstation, I feel cramped.

I'm on a currently 20" DCLCD I got from CompUSA/Tiger Direct and bought a 26" LED 720p backlit VIZIO this last black Friday from Wal-Mart for ~$200. It is a fine TV, great for the bedroom but sucks as a monitor...text doesn't display clearly.

tannerzion wrote:Someone forgot to take math class.

It should be ($249.99 + $5) > ($239 + $18).
                        $255.99                $257

You save a couple dollars and get it from a seller you trust.

Wanna try that math again? $254.99 ($249.99 + $5) < $257 ($239 + $18)

Though it is pretty close to a push -- But I'd add in the Square Trade Wnty too.

I have a Sony Bravio 32" and Love it, it's also 1080 though and it plays HD amazingly.

I'm going to guess that this TV doesn't do it as nicely.

Any idea on time of shipping to South Texas?

therealjrn wrote:I'm on a currently 20" DCLCD I got from CompUSA/Tiger Direct and bought a 26" LED 720p backlit VIZIO this last black Friday from Wal-Mart for ~$200. It is a fine TV, great for the bedroom but sucks as a monitor...text doesn't display clearly.

Yeah. I don't think TVs make good monitors. I just know that size matters. Especially when you're running software with lots of tool panel windows. 50% of my screen is filled with tool panels.

bogawoot wrote:Ok...I've been wanting to ask this for quite a while now...WHAT THE H? is with the ridiculous avatars and the "quality posts" count at zero for most folks? I been here for YEARS posting. WHAT THE H ????

Apparently only posting for years, not quality posting.

This TV is 32 inches.

ginbak wrote:...I just know that size matters...

/Obligatory "That's what she said"

//Seriously though, thanks for the advice!

patiann6 wrote:My husband has this exact TV and loves it, paid almost double this too. I wanT!

He won't share?

shaq92 wrote:This TV is 32 inches.

Read the fine print..."31.5 inches" - is the one on Amazon really 32 inches? Now THAT would be worth the extra clams...

somnambulator wrote:size doesnt matter. there are benefits to both resolutions, but a 1080p bluray on a 32" absolutely looks better than a 720p bluray on a 32". you're telling me that having over twice as many displayed pixels wont be a noticeable difference? have you ever compared the 2 yourself? b/c i have and it's noticeable.

...

As a matter of fact I did compare them, at a Sony store last Saturday. There they were 2 basically identical Sony 32" TVs, one 720P and one 1080P side by side, same programming displayed. I asked the salesman why does the 720p one actually look better than the 1080i one? He didn't know but agreed the 720 actually was clearer in all aspects than the 1080p. Could the 1080p one be broken? I don't think so. The feed was 720P and the 1080i set artifically filled the lines with garbage and data yielding a lower quality picture (pixelation artifacts).

tannerzion wrote:Someone forgot to take math class.

It should be ($249.99 + $5) > ($239 + $18).
                        $255.99                $257

You save a couple dollars and get it from a seller you trust.

You must be using some fancy math there, because my muggle math says $255.99<$257

eldiablohijo wrote:I have a Sony Bravio 32" and Love it, it's also 1080 though and it plays HD amazingly.

I'm going to guess that this TV doesn't do it as nicely.

I'm just curious why you felt the need to post this. You have a different brand, a higher resolution, and then say this probably isn't as good...I don't see how that adds to the conversation.

Not trying to be mean, just wondering...

StarM wrote:Any idea on time of shipping to South Texas?

Any Texas floods? Should be close to 10:14 AM shipping day.

I'm in for one. Great price for a decent 32" TV, referb or not.

dakranii wrote:I'm just curious why you felt the need to post this. You have a different brand, a higher resolution, and then say this probably isn't as good...I don't see how that adds to the conversation.

Not trying to be mean, just wondering...

I was wunderin' the same. I have reached the conclusion that many posters simply like the sound of their own voice (or the look of their own posts as it were...)

er - did I just prove my point? SNAP!

jeffrjohn wrote:You must be using some fancy math there, because my muggle math says $255.99<$257

He was using utility math, where a lower price gives the buyer greater utility.

(Best if you keep your feet raised off the ground when you try to pull that one off.)

rjhalsey wrote:Is this a good tv?

Great TV...have had one for a while...love it.

bogawoot wrote:Ok...I've been wanting to ask this for quite a while now...WHAT THE H? is with the ridiculous avatars and the "quality posts" count at zero for most folks? I been here for YEARS posting. WHAT THE H ????

Avatars = fun
Quantity Quality

ohreeds wrote:Avatars = fun
Quantity Quality

that IS quality

therealjrn wrote:Any Texas floods? Should be close to 10:14 AM shipping day.

No -- we're in drought & under a burn ban . . . apparently the rain does fall on the just and the unjust, just not us . . . ;-)

I usually only buy on Wine.Woot, so not sure how long regular Woot shipping takes.

Oh please sell out already, I really need some Leakfrogs.

Big ticket items are dead to me here, even during a wootoff. With the new sales tax and shipping, for me that TV costs over $280, which ain't no deal for a 720 set.

wootazon sucks arse.

StarM wrote:No -- we're in drought & under a burn ban . . . apparently the rain does fall on the just and the unjust, just not us . . . ;-)

I usually only buy on Wine.Woot, so not sure how long regular Woot shipping takes.

It might ship before the next item comes up!!

bogawoot wrote:Ok...I've been wanting to ask this for quite a while now...WHAT THE H? is with the ridiculous avatars and the "quality posts" count at zero for most folks? I been here for YEARS posting. WHAT THE H ????

Obviously your avatar isn't quality posting. Pretty simple :::tucks his one quality post into his onion belt:::

sf6864 wrote:Oh please sell out already, I really need some Leakfrogs.

Leakfrogs were yesterday

Ringo4422 wrote:As a matter of fact I did compare them, at a Sony store last Saturday. There they were 2 basically identical Sony 32" TVs, one 720P and one 1080P side by side, same programming displayed. I asked the salesman why does the 720p one actually look better than the 1080i one? He didn't know but agreed the 720 actually was clearer in all aspects than the 1080p. Could the 1080p one be broken? I don't think so. The feed was 720P and the 1080i set artifically filled the lines with garbage and data yielding a lower quality picture (pixelation artifacts).

if they were hooked to the same source/signal then the 1080p TV would have been displaying a 720p picture upscaled, meaning you werent showing a 1080p signal. i said a 720p source will look better on a 720p TV. there's no way around that. if you have a 1080p display with a 1080p source (bluray, PC, directv, etc) then there will be a noticeable difference. unless the TVs were using sources geared for their displays the 720 will always look better.

I there a moderator on the forum I would like to change my order to the Vizio from the Phillips I purchased on Sunday. Please contact asap at crazycook99@msn.com.

Were it really so bad ...

Will one of you grammar n.a.z.i.s explain this to me? It felt awkward to read, I expected "Was it really so bad..."

I've heard everyone say that if you use a TV for a computer monitor it should be 1080p because 720p causes text to not show up as well.

Now the only time I plan on hooking my computer up to the TV is to watch TV shows off the internet so text shouldn't be to much of an issue. Will the picture be of decent quality?

jeffrjohn wrote:Leakfrogs were yesterday

I know! I'm hoping they make a reappearance. Frogs do that sometimes.

millsp wrote:At 32' your eye can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080. So if anything should sway you it should be the fact that it's a refurb.

If you're 15 feet away, sure, you can't tell.

Any closer - and yeah - it's a pretty obvious difference.

This ones going slow. Bring on the cats.

LOL @ some of the comments in here: "We have one and the picture is great, blah blah."

Great if you want it for the kids, but sorry, Vizio is crap. Put this brand next to a Samsung or Sony and you'll see that the difference is night and day.

I would bite if it waqsn't a refurb. 720p doesn't bother me with the smaller screen. Besides, I won't be watching sports on a little screen like this anyway.

I have never, ever been disappointed with a Vizio product. I currently use a 36" Vizio TV and a wireless router that are both great performers. At this size, you will not be able to tell the difference between 720 and 1080.

This is a great deal if you need it.

Will this work with Linux???

Some of you people have been lied to!!

Size most definitely matters in most all things.