sdc100 wrote:I'm pretty sure Android 1.6 was an official release because I've seen several tablets with it. In fact, my Entourage Edge (which is not a cheap Chinese device) came with Android 1.6. I just recently upgraded it to Android 2.2.

Woot states this is an Archos 501521. This is version 1 of the home tablet. I know.. one would think it SHOULD officially support 1.6, but there is no evidence to support this. As I mentioned, I am an owner of this model and have researched extensively as well as contacted numerous people within Archos. It is well documented on archosfans fan forum.

If you can show me a link of android OS 1.6 firmware available from archos's website, then great. But if you do happen to go to their support website, the only available update is android 1.5.

http://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates.html?lang=en

So please.. buyer beware. Android 1.5 is very very old.

GOOD NEWS
THIS ARCHOS 7 (v1) MAY BE UPGRADEABLE TO ANDROID 2.2 (FROYO)

[Hey Woot ... I think I deserve a Quality Post for this. Heck, I interrupted a lab experiment to post this! ]

Well, guys -- looks like I was wrong that v1 of this Archos 7 cannot be upgraded to Android 2.2 (Froyo). Although v2 can be upgraded much more easily (see my previous post below), YouTube has a video of a v1 Archos (model A70HB) upgraded to Android 2.2.1. You can see the proof at around 1:40 although you should watch the entire video. Links tothe upgrades are in the description section. The owner honestly lists all the bugs at the end. For example, the upgrade apparently disables the SD card which can be a significant problem. However, since this comes with 8GB built-in (like a low end iPad), many people won't need external storage. However, his video was posted in January 2011 so the bugs may have been fixed. Please email him or search YouTube or the web for updated info. There are probably newer videos on this topic; just make sure that they're about v1 of this Archos 7, not v2 because Woot is selling v1.

The Bottomline is that this Archos 7 is upgradable to Android 2.2. That means that it can probably play Flash videos (download the excellent Dolphin HD browser) and use most of the latest Android apps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYhBAvvbIGg

sdc100 wrote:Those who are concerned that this only has Android 1.6 may be in luck. A Froyo (Android 2.2) update is available but there's a catch. The update only works for Archos 7 HT v2, and will not work for version 1.

Do people know if this is v1 or v2? You really need Android 2.1 and above to run the latest apps. Having just updated my Entourage Edge from Android 1.6 to Android 2.2, I can tell you that it makes a difference in many ways. For one thing, 2.2 is faster -- which is important considering that this Archos only has an 600mhz CPU.

http://www.arctablet.com/blog/archos-tablet/android-2-2-froyo-market-root-archos-7-ht-v2/

jaypnguyen wrote:Woot states this is an Archos 501521. This is version 1 of the home tablet. I know.. one would think it SHOULD officially support 1.6, but there is no evidence to support this. As I mentioned, I am an owner of this model and have researched extensively as well as contacted numerous people within Archos. It is well documented on archosfans fan forum.

If you can show me a link of android OS 1.6 firmware available from archos's website, then great. But if you do happen to go to their support website, the only available update is android 1.5.

http://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates.html?lang=en

So please.. buyer beware. Android 1.5 is very very old.

Well, I don't know if Archos ever officially supported Android 1.6. All I'm saying is that Android 1.6 was an official release by Google.

FYI, according to this Endgadget article, the Archos 7 started shipping with Android 1.6 in June.

Why are you fretting over upgrading to Android 1.6? please see my post about upgrading to Android 2.2.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/06/archos-7-home-tablet-ships-to-android-lovers-in-june/

PS - I'm no expert on the Archos. I don't own one and all my info is from the web.

I only want to use this on the web while I sit on my front porch. Will it play youtube videos and email videos?

newjerseymax wrote:Wow this is a new low....

This is the equivalent of buying a Atari from the 80's....

Well... except for the fact that I'd like to have an Atari from the 80's...

MORE INFO ON UPGRADING THIS TO
ANDROID 2.2 AND EVEN 2.3 (GINGERBREAD)

Well, it looks like you can upgrade this v1 model to Android 2.2 and even Android 2.3. These newer versions of Android are faster than 1.6 and can handle Flash videos.

Go HERE for more info and the files..

sdc100 wrote:GOOD NEWS
THIS ARCHOS 7 (v1) MAY BE UPGRADEABLE TO ANDROID 2.2 (FROYO)

[Hey Woot ... I think I deserve a Quality Post for this. Heck, I interrupted a lab experiment to post this! ]

Well, guys -- looks like I was wrong that v1 of this Archos 7 cannot be upgraded to Android 2.2 (Froyo). Although v2 can be upgraded much more easily (see my previous post below), YouTube has a video of a v1 Archos (model A70HB) upgraded to Android 2.2.1. You can see the proof at around 1:40 although you should watch the entire video. Links tothe upgrades are in the description section. The owner honestly lists all the bugs at the end. For example, the upgrade apparently disables the SD card which can be a significant problem. However, since this comes with 8GB built-in (like a low end iPad), many people won't need external storage. However, his video was posted in January 2011 so the bugs may have been fixed. Please email him or search YouTube or the web for updated info. There are probably newer videos on this topic; just make sure that they're about v1 of this Archos 7, not v2 because Woot is selling v1.

The Bottomline is that this Archos 7 is upgradable to Android 2.2. That means that it can probably play Flash videos (download the excellent Dolphin HD browser) and use most of the latest Android apps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYhBAvvbIGg

I had the Archos 10" tablet for 2 days and returned it. Slow, awful apps, etc. I think I could have gotten a better tablet at toysrus! Save the money and get an ipad2, you'll be glad you did!

mshoemaker14 wrote:I only want to use this on the web while I sit on my front porch. Will it play youtube videos and email videos?

I don't know what email videos are but no, it will probably not play YouTube videos right out of the box because this Archos 7 comes with Android 1.6. Generally speaking, you'll need Android 2.2 to play Flash-based videos, i.e. YouTube. Please read my previous posts on the possibility of upgrading to Android 2.2.

HOWEVER ... my Entourage Edge, which came with Android 1.6, had an app specifically for playing YouTube videos. It can't go to any other Flash-based websites but it was able to play YouTube. In other words, this Archos may come with an app to use YouTube although it only has Android 1.6.

r0nnie wrote:I had the Archos 10" tablet for 2 days and returned it. Slow, awful apps, etc. I think I could have gotten a better tablet at toysrus! Save the money and get an ipad2, you'll be glad you did!

Did you upgrade the firmware and OS? Archos release firmware to improve response, and upgrading the OS from Android 1.5/1.6 to Android 2.2 should increase the speed. However, don't expect miracles because this runs on a 600mhz CPU. Most current tablets run at 800mhz-1000mhz (aka 1.0ghz).

sdc100 wrote:Well, I don't know if Archos ever officially supported Android 1.6. All I'm saying is that Android 1.6 was an official release by Google.

FYI, according to this Endgadget article, Android started shipping Archos 7 with Android 1.6 in June.

Why are you fretting over upgrading to Android 1.6? please see my post about upgrading to Android 2.2.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/06/archos-7-home-tablet-ships-to-android-lovers-in-june/

PS - I'm no expert on the Archos. I don't own one and all my info is from the web.

Just because it can be upgraded doesn't mean it will run better. Video playback is extremely crippled for custom firmwares 1.6+ (if not working at all). Also, upgrading the firmware is not for the faint of heart since it voids your warranty. So if you brick your tablet, you'll have to figure it out yourself (without the help of Archos' great support *sarcasm)

I own this tablet.. and have upgraded the firmware, so I'm talking from experience (not through the web like you are). The limited ram that exists on this tablet (128mb) really impairs performance with newer versions of android. Unless you always want to be killing your tasks after running 1 single app, then more power to you. This tablet has some serious limitations and just posting that it supports android 2.2+ isn't really helping the average consumer with making an informed decision on whether or not this tablet is worth 80+.

If all you want is to surf the internet and read books... it's okay. Surfing the internet on this tablet can be a pain with it's resistive screen which causes you to click on links which you never intended on clicking. Also, this tablet is slow.

How confusing. I see a LOT of opposing viewpoints regarding this tablet.

I need some help though, ppl. I'm looking at the Archos tablet on 1saleaday.com, the one with android2.2 and flash support.

I'm thinking of getting it, even though it doesn't seem like that great of a tablet. Here are my reasons:

-I don't want an iPad. Don't have much use for apps, GPS, multi-function, or multi-point touching.
-The bottom line is I have been looking for a CHEAP E-Reader, where I could view books in PDF format that I've already gotten off the internet.

...and if it has some additional features, cool. So somebody tell me once and for all, am I going to be happy using this thing (the one on 1saleaday) as a glorified E-Reader?

FWIW:

Amazon has the Archos 43 'tablet' on a Gold Box deal today for $175 with free shipping.

jaypnguyen wrote:Just because it can be upgraded doesn't mean it will run better. Video playback is extremely crippled for custom firmwares 1.6+ (if not working at all). Also, upgrading the firmware is not for the faint of heart since it voids your warranty. So if you brick your tablet, you'll have to figure it out yourself (without the help of Archos' great support *sarcasm)

I own this tablet.. and have upgraded the firmware, so I'm talking from experience (not through the web like you are). The limited ram that exists on this tablet (128mb) really impairs performance with newer versions of android. Unless you always want to be killing your tasks after running 1 single app, then more power to you. This tablet has some serious limitations and just posting that it supports android 2.2+ isn't really helping the average consumer with making an informed decision on whether or not this tablet is worth 80+.

If all you want is to surf the internet and read books... it's okay. Surfing the internet on this tablet can be a pain with it's resistive screen which causes you to click on links which you never intended on clicking. Also, this tablet is slow.

Look, I don't know what your problem is but all you're doing is complain. First off, you're implying that I advocate buying this tablet, or am somehow misleading people into buying it. Where did I do that? All you requested was proof that the Archos 7 ever officially shipped with Android 1.6 and I provided an Edgadget article. Now you're complaining that my posts aren't "really helping the average consumer." Why don't you let the average consumer, or average Wooter, decide what is helpful?

Seriously, read what you posted. I found this really offensive: "This tablet has some serious limitations and just posting that it supports android 2.2+ isn't really helping the average consumer with making an informed decision on whether or not this tablet is worth 80+."

And how about this gem: "I'm talking from experience (not through the web like you are).

You may not find the info helpful, but if you bother reading the posts from page 1 onward, you'll see that lots of people complained about Android 1.6, and people even asked directly if it can be upgraded. So for those people, my posts about upgradability are helpful. if you don't find my posts helpful, why don't you contribute instead of complaining? Especially since you have "experience" not merely searching the web like I am.

Seriously, read your posts. You just whine and complain, without offering any help. Then when I tried to help, you complain about my attempts. Geez...

dropdeadjames wrote:How confusing. I see a LOT of opposing viewpoints regarding this tablet.

I need some help though, ppl. I'm looking at the Archos tablet on 1saleaday.com, the one with android2.2 and flash support.

I'm thinking of getting it, even though it doesn't seem like that great of a tablet. Here are my reasons:

-I don't want an iPad. Don't have much use for apps, GPS, multi-function, or multi-point touching.
-The bottom line is I have been looking for a CHEAP E-Reader, where I could view books in PDF format that I've already gotten off the internet.

...and if it has some additional features, cool. So somebody tell me once and for all, am I going to be happy using this thing (the one on 1saleaday) as a glorified E-Reader?

Isn't 1saleaday selling an Augen tablet, and not an Archos?

sdc100 wrote:Isn't 1saleaday selling an Augen tablet, and not an Archos?

or it's an Augen. So does anyone want to switch out "archos" with "augen" and answer my question?

You want a cheap tablet, a $99 from Archos is a possibility, with better OS version than this one

A 7" Tablet for $99 is possible

sdc100 wrote:Did you upgrade the firmware and OS? Archos release firmware to improve response, and upgrading the OS from Android 1.5/1.6 to Android 2.2 should increase the speed. However, don't expect miracles because this runs on a 600mhz CPU. Most current tablets run at 800mhz-1000mhz (aka 1.0ghz).

Yes, did the upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2, but more than half the apps didn't work. Love my new ipad though. worth the $$bucks$$.

Just found this:

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=49646&start=0

It seems several devs have come up with custom roms for the v1 based on newer versions of Android.

dropdeadjames wrote:How confusing. I see a LOT of opposing viewpoints regarding this tablet.

I need some help though, ppl. I'm looking at the Archos tablet on 1saleaday.com, the one with android2.2 and flash support.

I'm thinking of getting it, even though it doesn't seem like that great of a tablet. Here are my reasons:

-I don't want an iPad. Don't have much use for apps, GPS, multi-function, or multi-point touching.
-The bottom line is I have been looking for a CHEAP E-Reader, where I could view books in PDF format that I've already gotten off the internet.

...and if it has some additional features, cool. So somebody tell me once and for all, am I going to be happy using this thing (the one on 1saleaday) as a glorified E-Reader?

I think this would make a fine eReader with extra features. However, there are some issues.
- if e-reading is your goal and you're not concerned with color, consider something with e-ink. For some, eInk is easier on the eyes. But more importantly, battery life is much longer.
- you may have problems finding an official ebook seller. I don't know if there is a Kindle or Barnes&Nobles app for this Archos running Android 1.6 (see my other posts about upgrading to Android 2.2)
- PDFs look terrible on most eReaders because the fonts aren't scalable. You'll end up constantly scrolling left and right, which is very annoying. You're better off using the ePub format, which is what most booksellers and libraries use.
- If you read a lot of PDFs, get PDF software instead eReading software. I believe Documents-to-Go has a PDF module. The Amazon Android marketplace also has several PDF readers.
- A suggestion: use Calibre to convert to the format of your choice
- Do some research and see if this comes with an eReading app. If not, see what's available before buying this as an eResder.

... Finally, if you really just want a VERY basic color eReader, contact me. I have a very slightly used (as in used for one day) Sharper Image Literati that was bought here on Woot, that I'm willing to sell for about 30-40% off what I paid. But again, I have to honestly tell you that reading PDFs is not a pleasant experience and the Literati is VERY basic.

Several people have complained that Archos has terrible support. Based on what I've read, the company isn't very responsive. HOwever, there seems to be a huge user base and lots of community support so future upgrades should be available, even though they won't be official. In other words, buying this is probably safer than buying a similarly-priced generic Chinese tablet.

Many people are comparing this to the Augen being sold at 1saleaday. I've never used any Augen product, but I've seen a lot of their stuff on closeout vendors like HeartlandAmerica and the specs are awful. For example, Augen's idea of a Netbook is a WinCE device that's barely more powerful than a PDA. Worse, the fineprint indicates that you can't add any additional WinCE apps.

In terms of specs, the Augen looks better. In terms of future support and upgrades, I'm placing my bet on this Archos (even if the upgrades aren't coming from Archos itself).

I wish this was up a few days ago! I just got my Archos 101 Internet tablet in the mail.

Though it's not really for the Archos 7, the 101 is an excellent tablet, so far. First day impression of Archos quality, go for it! ^^

sdc100 wrote:Several people have complained that Archos has terrible support. Based on what I've read, the company isn't very responsive. HOwever, there seems to be a huge user base and lots of community support so future upgrades should be available, even though they won't be official. In other words, buying this is probably safer than buying a similarly-priced generic Chinese tablet.

Many people are comparing this to the Augen being sold at 1saleaday. I've never used any Augen product, but I've seen a lot of their stuff on closeout vendors like HeartlandAmerica and the specs are awful. For example, Augen's idea of a Netbook is a WinCE device that's barely more powerful than a PDA. Worse, the fineprint indicates that you can't add any additional WinCE apps.

In terms of specs, the Augen looks better. In terms of future support and upgrades, I'm placing my bet on this Archos (even if the upgrades aren't coming from Archos itself).

Hi there,
My name is Craig and am the Director of Marketing for ARCHOS North America.

While you might be correct saying that our customer service as not what it should have been in the past, I can assure steps, very recent steps, have been taken to drastically improve our customer and technical support for North American customers.

tankueray wrote:I would buy an Atari 2600 in a heartbeat. And sell my first born for the game "Adventure."

Think this thing could emulate it?

There is an emulator for Android @ androidzoom.com


The ROMs are out there too. Just google those.

I've been looking around for something to use as an OBDII scan tool with something like this [ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IAGNNG/ ] . I've got a couple of questions about this thing for anyone who may know:

1) it says "USB 2.0 Host: Mass Storage Class (MSC)" and mentions keyboards and mice. will the host controller only ever work w/ mass storage devices and human interface devices (ie keyboards and mice). will it never do what I need it to?

2) can someone please point me to some of the resources available of examples of linux running on this. ( Will anything ported to ARM 9 work?)

much obliged.

sdc100 wrote:Look, I don't know what your problem is but all you're doing is complain. First off, you're implying that I advocate buying this tablet, or am somehow misleading people into buying it. Where did I do that? All you requested was proof that the Archos 7 ever officially shipped with Android 1.6 and I provided an Edgadget article. Now you're complaining that my posts aren't "really helping the average consumer." Why don't you let the average consumer, or average Wooter, decide what is helpful?

Seriously, read what you posted. I found this really offensive: "This tablet has some serious limitations and just posting that it supports android 2.2+ isn't really helping the average consumer with making an informed decision on whether or not this tablet is worth 80+."

And how about this gem: "I'm talking from experience (not through the web like you are).

You may not find the info helpful, but if you bother reading the posts from page 1 onward, you'll see that lots of people complained about Android 1.6, and people even asked directly if it can be upgraded. So for those people, my posts about upgradability are helpful. if you don't find my posts helpful, why don't you contribute instead of complaining? Especially since you have "experience" not merely searching the web like I am.

Seriously, read your posts. You just whine and complain, without offering any help. Then when I tried to help, you complain about my attempts. Geez...

I don't whine I'm just saying it like it is.

I contacted archos support Ticket #201201172. They say that the unit advertised on woot.com is incorrectly advertising android 1.6 being included with these tablets (Andrew H from archos support). He said these will come shipped with 1.5. I contacted woot.com, they claim it is running android 1.6. Who should we trust?

This same problem occured when it was being sold on a different website.... tiger something.

I'm not really sure about your comment about whining. I've provided information as to where to get official firmware updates. Also, most custom firmware update information can be found on archosfans.com forum which I've also mentioned.

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewforum.php?f=59

Quite a number of people jumped onto buying this tablet thinking they are getting android 1.6 and it will have the ability to upgrade to 2.2 with flash and such. As of now, there is NO flash support according to this user forum.

seaewe wrote:There is an emulator for Android @ androidzoom.com


The ROMs are out there too. Just google those.

Stay away ,far away
I have had bad times with there products.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's stuff I bought at woot with what seems like good prices.
I have the Archos 5 which I replaced with the touch. The product was half fast and then they want to sell upgrades to make it useful. The upgrades were also expensive. Flash didnt work on that either and I waited for a long time for that. Which they said wasn't there fault. Which didn't help me.

mjnk97 wrote:Does anyone know if this device supports Adobe Flash? I purchases a Pandigital tablet for my wife, but was disappointed to find out that she could not watch her favorite shows online.

No. Flash is not supported on Android 1.5.

I recently acquired an Andros 101 8Gb 2.2 Android Froyo, and I have to say in Andros' defense that the technical support I've received is pretty good. I wasn't on the phone on hold very long, and in two of the three cases where I needed help, the tech support person was knowledgable, friendly, and effective in resolving my issue. Compared, for example, to one very large company that acquired Compaq - and who's former CEO ran in California politics and fortunately lost big time - but I won't mention their name - I found Andros' support to be excellent.

I love the Woot descriptions that all but say outright: "You're a freaking human if you buy this product."

Does anyone know how well this works for viewing photos? I am looking for something portable for my husband to put photos on for sharing with others with some decent quality, and possibly use for slideshows. Has anyone used it for this? I love my Galaxy Tab, but I can't part with it for a weekend when he gets together with the fishing buddies. ;-) We're not looking for a lot of bells and whistles, just a nice photo viewer and was wondering if the Archos 7 would fit the bill. Thanks!

craigarchos wrote:Hi there,
My name is Craig and am the Director of Marketing for ARCHOS North America.

While you might be correct saying that our customer service as not what it should have been in the past, I can assure steps, very recent steps, have been taken to drastically improve our customer and technical support for North American customers.

Sweet, so officially, what version of Android is on this sucker? Some in these forums say 1.5, others say 1.6.

craigarchos wrote:Hi there,
My name is Craig and am the Director of Marketing for ARCHOS North America.

While you might be correct saying that our customer service as not what it should have been in the past, I can assure steps, very recent steps, have been taken to drastically improve our customer and technical support for North American customers.

That's great. Now how about you guys improve on all the broken promises (stop making them) and firmware issues? (care about what your customers say, even if GASP!!!! it's already been 6-14 months after initial release)

You know, get ahead of the game, for once.

Hm, interesting. I've been looking at one of their MP3 players lately, as I kind of want a smart device without being locked into some Jatravartid mobile contract I don't want and there aren't a lot of companies servicing this market right now. Not sure I want a tablet though, prefer it be something more pocket friendly--especially with all the questions raised about this guy's functionality.

Im an artist and I have been looking for a way to quickly show my portfolio on the go. If that is all I care about, might this be a good buy? Is the image quality good? Right now I use the Android gallery on my HTC Evo, but have been wanting something bigger.

Owned one, Briefly. Very Briefly. Returned it the same day. Awful screen. Save your money for a real tablet this is a pretender.

jadefrolics wrote:Im an artist and I have been looking for a way to quickly show my portfolio on the go. If that is all I care about, might this be a good buy? Is the image quality good? Right now I use the Android gallery on my HTC Evo, but have been wanting something bigger.

Image quality is just average. Not close to an ipad or even a decent LCD on a laptop. I would not use this to show your portfolio because images would not show crisp or clear. Also, the stock photo viewer that comes with this is slow and was prone to crashing for me (and this was after I used task killer to kill all other apps).

I'm typing this as I'm blissfully deafening myself to Scar Symmetry on my Archos 5. I did have to contact Archos once to RMA my initial Archos 5 since the screen died on me. They promptly took care of the issue after asking a few questions, and I was even only 1 week inside the warranty! Great support!

This Archos 5 has been great to jam out to, show videos of my tank blowing stuff up, and ripping movies to. Love the codec support.

That said, the Home Tablet versions are more "stripped down" versions. You're not going to get all the bells and whistles as with a non-"Home Tablet" version. This Archos 7 looks great for all the basic functions of a portable device. Don't ask too much of it.

FYI, I just bought an Archos 70 with the 250GB hard drive, and I'm waiting for it to be delivered. After placing the order, I found out that Archos released a more updated version called the G9 series. They pumped up the processors, included Android Honeycomb, and did it at a very similar price point to the Archos 70 I purchased. I might be swapping out for the new tablet!

sdc100 wrote:Er, stop being such a snob. A Froyo (Android 2.2) update is available if this Archos is v2 (see my other post). And the Dolphin browser for Android supports Flash in Android 2.2.

As for resistive being "worthless," I use resistive screens daily, both on personal devices and professional medical equipment. So tell me, what exactly is so advantageous about capacitive if you don't use gesturing, especially multi-point gesturing? I personally don't care about mutlipoint gestures and in fact, rarely use gestures at all -- and I've been using touchscreens for over a decade, i.e. on PDAs. I find resistive screens to be less sensitive to accidental touching -- and environmental interference (which is important in a lab). And of course, they're significantly cheaper. For many people, a resistive screen accomplishes everything they need. I do just fine on my Entourage Edge Android tablet, thank you. So how are they "worthless"????

In terms of upgrade.. it's easier to upgrade something that has better hardware specs. More RAM and a processor that is supported for android 2.0+ means that it is more likely to support newer android OS's. The archos 7 has the capability to be upgraded, but at the loss of wifi stability, mini-SD card use, and even recognition of the 8gb internal drive (yes.... you can't copy files from your computer onto the tablet in some custom firmware instances), as well as no/broken video playback.

As for resistive screens vs capacitative screens, the other guy has a point of saying that resistive screens can be cumbersome. On the archos 7, I would like an easy way to zoom in and zoom out while surfing the web. But if you've used this resistive screen, double clicking on the web page is prone to you clicking on a link. Likewise, having to click on the zoom button can be bothersome because the zoom feature is pretty slow on this tablet. Also, there are instances where the zoom button covers a link that you would like to touch. Capacitative screens would solve this problem, but yes... they are pretty expensive. The archos 7ht can work well at times but other times it can be come unresponsive and clicking small links are known to not work. This is probably a result of the resistive touch screen. Resistive isn't worthless... it's just not that easy to use.

dropdeadjames wrote:How confusing. I see a LOT of opposing viewpoints regarding this tablet.

I need some help though, ppl. I'm looking at the Archos tablet on 1saleaday.com, the one with android2.2 and flash support.

I'm thinking of getting it, even though it doesn't seem like that great of a tablet. Here are my reasons:

-I don't want an iPad. Don't have much use for apps, GPS, multi-function, or multi-point touching.
-The bottom line is I have been looking for a CHEAP E-Reader, where I could view books in PDF format that I've already gotten off the internet.

...and if it has some additional features, cool. So somebody tell me once and for all, am I going to be happy using this thing (the one on 1saleaday) as a glorified E-Reader?

i bought a augen 7 when they first came out (exculusive to kmart)its a total rubbish tablet. really not worth your money. ive owned several low cost tablets over the years and that has to be the worst one ever. typing is impossible.