ibuyufo wrote:That is not quite true. If you connect a device that supports Anynet+ coupled to a modern samsung flatscreen TV it'll power on the TV and change to the correct source once the device has been turned on. When turning the device off it'll change to the "TV" source, but will not turn off the TV. So in a way it does control it but it's not full control where you don't need the gamepad or remote.

My TV does that without "Anynet+", and once again. All you have said is that the TV recognizes the HDMI input being active. How does that in any way allow you to control the device being connected by HDMI? IT DOESN'T.

jeffdoh wrote:I bought the zmodo surveillance system last week ( $300)and TAXSUCKS only knocked off the $5 shipping, not the $25 tax. Blah!

Do you live in Texas? It's my understanding that the TAXSUCKS thing only works for Texas residents (since Woot! is also in Texas).

stevedog1 wrote:Where did you hear this? Please show proof of any TV that actually supports that...lol

HDMI is simply a mode of transferring the picture and sound to another device.

You cannot control a device through HDMI.

stevedog1 wrote:How does that in any way allow you to control the device being connected by HDMI? IT DOESN'T.

Actually you can, and it does...

There are devices that use the HDMI cable to communicate between devices. I recently installed a Samsung TV and DVD player and was setting it up with at harmony. I ran into the problem of the TV and DVD player being 'too smart' and the TV sent the signal to the DVD to turn it on, then the harmony would do the same and turn it off. I had to go to the options of the Samsung and turn off the 'Anynet' feature. Samsung calls it anynet+, but other companies may come up with their own term for the HDMI CEC feature based on the av.link protocol standard such as:

Trade names for CEC are Anynet+ (Samsung); Aquos Link (Sharp); BRAVIA Sync (Sony); HDMI-CEC (Hitachi); E-link (AOC); Kuro Link (Pioneer); CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba); RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo); SimpLink (LG); HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic); EasyLink (Philips); and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).

In theory, this is a great idea and if everyone jumped onto the CEC standards and make sure they comply 100% to other manufacturer devices it would make things a lot easier for consumers. If they turn on the Blu-Ray player, for instance, the TV automatically senses that and changes its input setting to the Blu-Ray, and switches the soundbar to the proper audio input, turns off the ps3, etc. It would put a dent in the market for these types of remote controls for sure.

neondruid wrote:Do you live in Texas? It's my understanding that the TAXSUCKS thing only works for Texas residents (since Woot! is also in Texas).

TAXSUCKS works in Texas and other states that require tax. As I stated earlier in the thread, I don't know how woot determines the price. One particular item a user was able to use it for an order over $40, but when I tried for the same woot it said it had to be over $45. He was in New York, I am in Texas...

theguruguys wrote:Actually you can...

There are devices that use the ethernet HDMI channel to communicate between devices. I recently installed a Samsung TV and DVD player and was setting it up with at harmony. I ran into the problem of the TV and DVD player being 'too smart' and the TV sent the signal to the DVD to turn it on, then the harmony would do the same and turn it off. I had to go to the options of the Samsung and turn off the 'Anynet' feature. Samsung calls it anynet, but other companies may come up with their own term..

And this TV can control a PS3 as the original poster suggested?

stevedog1 wrote:And this TV can control a PS3 as the original poster suggested?

What is 'This TV', I don't see it quoted anywhere. All I saw was:

stevedog1 wrote:Where did you hear this? Please show proof of any TV that actually supports that...lol

HDMI is simply a mode of transferring the picture and sound to another device.

You cannot control a device through HDMI. Its part of the HDMI CEC Feature.

And I showed proof that MANY TV's actually supports that (no lol).

HDMI is NOT just simply a method of transferring picture and sound to another device.

And you CAN control a device through HDMI.

Basically, all three of your statements where entirely incorrect, and you laughed at the original poster for asking.

EDIT: Here is a video of a Sony TV with 'Bravia Link' controlling the PS3 through HDMI.

My samsung remote will control my ps3 just not as responsive as using the controller. My hope is I can pull of something similar using this one.

Mad at myself too forgot the tax sucks code!

stevedog1 wrote:Where did you hear this? Please show proof of any TV that actually supports that...lol

HDMI is simply a mode of transferring the picture and sound to another device.

You cannot control a device through HDMI.

Look up the CEC feature of HDMI.

Trade names for CEC are Anynet+ (Samsung); Aquos Link (Sharp); BRAVIA Sync (Sony); HDMI-CEC (Hitachi); E-link (AOC); Kuro Link (Pioneer); CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba); RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo); SimpLink (LG); HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic); EasyLink (Philips); and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).

davemathews68 wrote:Dido.

I am resisting the urge to get another. You CAN'T beat this price for functionality of this deal.
I also have the RF-IF module. It works great to control my speakers on the deck when my reviver and audio source are inside.

And Ditto.....

choppercharles wrote:Am I the only one who cycles through and just turns on the devices I need manually? The power button on my harmony isn't tied to everything... I don't want it to be.

Charles.

Dido.

er, ditto. +1

maw74656 wrote:I don't think so. If it did I'd be buying one too. You can buy a bluetooth headset real cheap, why can't they include a BT radio in this? Add a dollar and BAM, tons more sales.

+1

theguruguys wrote:And I showed proof that MANY TV's actually supports that (no lol).

HDMI is NOT just simply a method of transferring picture and sound to another device.

And you CAN control a device through HDMI.

Basically, all three of your statements where entirely incorrect, and you laughed at the original poster for asking.

EDIT: Here is a video of a Sony TV with 'Bravia Link' controlling the PS3 through HDMI.

So, not only do you need a special TV to do this, you also need special devices. So, the to the original question I replied to would actually be yes and no. Yes, if you have the newer slim PS3 AND newer TV set that supports it. Simply having a newer TV does not allow you to control the device. For example, as the video you linked said, it will not be able to control the FAT PS3, but only the slim version.

laconic wrote:If you connect your PS3 to your TV via HDMI, it may be possible to control the PS3 through your TV. Check to see if your TV supports it.

And this was the "Original Question" I replied to.

You not only have to check that your TV supports it, but also that your device supports it as well.

Just because you have one of these newer capable TV's, doesn't mean you will be able to control you HDMI connected PS3, unless its the newer Slim Version.

Point being: Just because your TV supports it, doesnt mean the device will. And just because the device supports it, doesnt mean every TV will.

Acoustic Research is famous for making speakers and home theater systems. The kind that come free with a new subscription to dish network. In otherwords, they are famous for being insanely cheap electronics in a pretty package. I can't speak as to their universal remotes, but there is no company that i trust LESS than AR.

stevedog1 wrote:So, not only do you need a special TV to do this, you also need special devices. So, the to the original question I replied to would actually be yes and no. Yes, if you have the newer slim PS3 AND newer TV set that supports it. Simply having a newer TV does not allow you to control the device. For example, as the video you linked said, it will not be able to control the FAT PS3, but only the slim version.

Exactly, you need a device that supports HDMI's CEC feature. Theoretically, any CEC capable device should be able to 'talk' to another CEC cable device through the HDMI connection no matter what the manufacturer decides to call it.

The older PS3's have a SI chip that has CEC disabled making it a hardware limitation that can't be change via a software update unfortunately.

So the original reply to the original post you answered could have been simply: "possibly, do your devices have:

Anynet+ (Samsung); Aquos Link (Sharp); BRAVIA Sync (Sony); HDMI-CEC (Hitachi); E-link (AOC); Kuro Link (Pioneer); CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba); RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo); SimpLink (LG); HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic); EasyLink (Philips); and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).

written or mentioned with them? ;)

theguruguys wrote:written or mentioned with them? ;)

simply?

What may get lost in this HDMI CEC Control conversation is that:

IT MAY BE BEST TO TURN OFF THE CEC CONTROL FEATURES if you are using and Xsight / Harmony to do all the work...

The remotes and CEC will fight to control the devices... It can happen kind of like this:

1) Xsight/harmony changes TV to Bluray/DVD input.

2) CEC TV sense this and turns on Bluray/DVD player

3) Xsight also turns on DVD player, which may actually toggle it off.

4) CEC TV sees this and changes setting back to TV/Cable

and many variations... I had issues with HDMI handshaking, etc etc. All were solved when I turned off the 'Anynet+" feature of the Samsung TV and blu-ray player and let the Harmony do all the work.

So keep this in mind as it may be easier to just turn off the devices CEC features when using a harmony/xsight to do all the work.

OK, I bought 1 and want to buy another one. But everythime I click to buy another one, it says I already bought one. How can I buy 2?

cobra281s wrote:OK, I bought 1 and want to buy another one. But everythime I click to buy another one, it says I already bought one. How can I buy 2?

You have to do it in one transaction, when you check out it has the option for 'buy one, two or three'. I'd email service@woot.com and tell them you want to order another, if it doesn't sell out I bet they might add it to your order.

Whenever I get this, I will report back and let you know if it works on my ancient Panasonic tv. That way, if anyone else with an old tv wants to know if this works, I can let them know. Seriously, my tv is probably 15 years old or more!

superstargoddess wrote:Whenever I get this, I will report back and let you know if it works on my ancient Panasonic tv. That way, if anyone else with an old tv wants to know if this works, I can let them know. Seriously, my tv is probably 15 years old or more!

From reading the online info on this remote model, you probably will need to use the full setup with a Windows PC connection to their website using internet explorer browser. The simple remote-only setup only covers a limited set of popular (newer) devices it seems. But the online setup claims to have a much larger extensive list of devices that should cover even older TVs.

I helped my brother recently get a cheap $4 onsale closeout universal remote from Radio Shack that worked with a 25year old NEC TV for reference.

superstargoddess wrote:Whenever I get this, I will report back and let you know if it works on my ancient Panasonic tv. That way, if anyone else with an old tv wants to know if this works, I can let them know. Seriously, my tv is probably 15 years old or more!

This remote is WAY overkill for a 15 year old TV! Get a Logitech 300i for under $25 with shipping.

Anyone know if it would work with TiVo premiere?

stevedog1 wrote:My TV does that without "Anynet+", and once again. All you have said is that the TV recognizes the HDMI input being active. How does that in any way allow you to control the device being connected by HDMI? IT DOESN'T.

I never said it gave you full control. I just said it somewhat gives you some control and that by being able to tell the TV to turn itself on and select the correct source.

stevedog1 wrote:And this TV can control a PS3 as the original poster suggested?

Seriously, do you not understand what people are trying to tell you. It may not control a PS3 but it does offer "some" control and I do say some very losely.

stevedog1 wrote:simply?

Just face it man. You aren't as informed as you thought you were. You are wrong, period.

I'm still in the decision boat, the whole, i really want it, but i dont really need it debate lol...with a half hour left maybe ill just debate until the time runs out

qwiktune wrote:I'm still in the decision boat, the whole, i really want it, but i dont really need it debate lol...with a half hour left maybe ill just debate until the time runs out

You don't need it,so save your $. You will have many more chances to buy this and/or other remotes during future wootoffs. This is the 18 device version. They also have 12 and 15 device versions so wait until they pop up for a cheaper price. Who needs an 18 device remote.

dliidlii wrote:You don't need it,so save your $. You will have many more chances to buy this and/or other remotes during the next wootoff.

Agreed, generally if if I have to debate over it, it's not worth it. I've only once wished I had bought a woot! after it expired, but of course it showed up again in a later woot!

pahearn wrote:No PAGE_UP/DOWN buttons??? That's a deal breaker for use with any cable box.

The +/- buttons work as Page Up/Down. The D-pad buttons work for scrolling one line at a time.

NocheFamily wrote:Does it work ps3?

It is not Blutooth... however, it will work if you buy a cheap IR remote off eBay & program this to work with that.

qwiktune wrote:I'm still in the decision boat, the whole, i really want it, but i dont really need it debate lol...with a half hour left maybe ill just debate until the time runs out

Glad to know I'm not the only one who's been debating all day whether to buy this or not. I have an AR remote I bought from woot 2 years ago and which is still my main remote... but this one is better, shiny and new.

On the other hand, thanks to dliidlii and theguruguys for the kick in the butt and the reality check (sorry Woot, better luck in an hour).

n0wh3r3man wrote:Glad to know I'm not the only one who's been debating all day whether to buy this or not. I have an AR remote a bought from woot 2 years ago and which is still my main remote... but this one is better, shiny and new.

On the other hand, thanks to dliidlii and theguruguys for the kick in the butt and the reality check (sorry Woot, better luck in an hour).

Oh but woot! has got me on impulse buys on way more than one occasion! The good thing about wooted items is that you don't loose much money if you end up ebay/craigslisting them. At least with my impulse buys I get to learn new tech then recoup some of the costs, at least that is what I tell myself instead of kicking myself in the butt for clicking that big shiny 'everything looks good' button!

OK, I'm in. I just Wooted. Question:

It sounds like this gadget will control my Roku player. Can anyone confirm if this in fact the case? That would be *awesome*!

moremustard wrote:OK, I'm in. I just Wooted. Question:

It sounds like this gadget will control my Roku player. Can anyone confirm if this in fact the case? That would be *awesome*!

Yes, it does. I read on Amazon that someone set theirs up as a custom device and it worked.

JoxerMighty wrote:From reading the online info on this remote model, you probably will need to use the full setup with a Windows PC connection to their website using internet explorer browser. The simple remote-only setup only covers a limited set of popular (newer) devices it seems. But the online setup claims to have a much larger extensive list of devices that should cover even older TVs.

I helped my brother recently get a cheap $4 onsale closeout universal remote from Radio Shack that worked with a 25year old NEC TV for reference.

Awesome, thanks for the help! I have Windows (and Linux when I want to and am not gaming) and still have the IE browser hanging out even though I use Chrome. If anything, if it doesn't work at least I have an excuse (in my own mind) to get a new tv! ;)

@theguruguys- I'm totally a techie geek, this remote has me drooling! The fact that I have to use 3 remotes right now with my tv made me really want this. In case you missed the post a couple of pages back, my cable tv remote doesn't turn my tv on and off and won't raise or lower the volume, so I have a cheap universal remote for that. And I have my Roku remote, so I'll finally have only one remote to use after I get this!

gildorthemad wrote:Acoustic Research is famous for making speakers and home theater systems. The kind that come free with a new subscription to dish network. In otherwords, they are famous for being insanely cheap electronics in a pretty package. I can't speak as to their universal remotes, but there is no company that i trust LESS than AR.

Well, you're personal experiences are accurate (Audiovox, AR's parent, hasn't been a pinnacle of quality engineering), but this remote was made by UEI, a Dutch company, and is a recognized, reasonably well-reviewed remote in the EU sold under the One For All Xsight moniker. (The website is http://www.oneforall.com/xsight/)

However, you notice I used past tense: UEI dropped this remote from their lineup, so caveat emptor.

gildorthemad wrote:Acoustic Research is famous for making speakers and home theater systems. The kind that come free with a new subscription to dish network. In otherwords, they are famous for being insanely cheap electronics in a pretty package. I can't speak as to their universal remotes, but there is no company that i trust LESS than AR.

It's a shame. Acoustic Research used to be a highly respected audio company that produced speakers and turntables. Now they are owned by Audiovox.....nuff said.

pmcharg wrote:Does anyone know if the RF base station from a radio shack 15-2117 IR/RF remote (also made by UEI) uses the same frequency (433Mhz) as this one?

Has anyone gotten their remotes shipped yet?