Let me know when you see a phone with a 7 or 10 inch screen.

jazzmotazzmo wrote:Here is the real deal, people...

Tablets suck... and they are not going to last, period.(s)....................

The move is going to be toward more portable and accessible devices like a PHONE - something you have with you at all times. Who does not carry a cell phone with them at all times? Some, I'm sure, but most cell phone people, at worst, would be roughly 80%. Right?

Tab/Padders are infrequent - I rarely see them in airports, coffee shops, or malls yet EVERYONE has a cell phone. Don't gimmick-up. I know a Man who'll Bojangle for you. Mr. Bojangles, DANCE.

Got one. I managed to find different uses for my gTablet from my iPad 2. Sure, viewing angle isn't the best for the gTab, but the problem isn't all that noticeable as long as you use it in a well lit room.

It's important to remember that gTab uses Tegra 2, and HP touchpad uses snapdragon. These two CPU have a tremendous difference in performance. Hackers aren't in a big hurry to bring android to touchpad because its hardware might not be able to handle it. So really,buying a touchpad pretty much means having a piece of history in e most bungled handling of a pretty good OS.

And precisely because of Tegra 2, developers will continue to support it even without official support, since updates for other Tegra 2 tablets will use codes that are easily ported over to the gTab. Of course, hardware acceleration aside...

Picked this up in a previous woot. I'd love to have my money back. You will have to root and flash ROMs which are not wholly stable onto this if you would like it to do anything close to what it was designed for.

I'll also confirm that the viewing angle is horrendous to the point of being counter productive. It's almost unusable in portrait mode unless you angle it slightly sideways.

Having used this G-Tablet a better entry price would have been the $99 the HP Tablets just dropped to.

how to honeycomb your tablet PLEASE!!!

Bought this guy during the first time they were on woot. Didn't regret it for a second.

Took it with me on a weekend trip down to DC. The thing held the charge for the entire weekend, and only died when I was 2 stations from home on the train ride home late that Sunday night. (Managed to watch 2 seasons of Arrested Development)



You can very easily port custom ROMs to it without any experience needed other than how to use a computer. (This includes Honeycomb)


Also - this thing is hardy. I have fallen asleep with it in my hand and it has wound up on the floor (4' drop or so) and it has never even hiccuped. It has fallen off my nightstand several times too, and never batted an eye.


tl;dr - if you don't have one of these yet, BUY IT!

Anybody using one of these things as a sheet music reader? That's the one use that's tempting me to spring for one of these.

I have one overclocked and the battery lasts well over a day in standby. I love it, and rarely turn on my desktop anymore.

Got one of these from W00T! several months back and after rooting it with Vegan was very happy with it, the shortcomings of Android (couldn't connect to my corporate network) however,, convinced me I needed a more serious Windows Tablet. So I sold my Viewsonic (the guy I sold it to *loves* it) and bought a Windows tablet. I've regretted the decision ever since (windows is so *NOT* touch-friendly). I'm seriously thinking of pulling the trigger again...

joybus wrote:Ran VEGAnTab, then Cyanogen MOD, now Flashback Honeycomb 7.2. Keeps getting better every time. Ultimate hacker's tablet.

iPad weenies and TouchPad dead-enders need not apply

You are not a hacker. You are a mod kiddie.

Shop fast and you will find available HP Touchpads for next to nothing. Barnes and Noble told me that.

are these the droids you are looking for?

"I kid." - Bill Maher

fragdaddy2007 wrote:Like I said earlier. It took me 13 minutes to get it running on Honeycomb, with the full android market (the new one) and ALL of the google apps.

Its worth the buy.

Please post your 13 minute procedure! I'm getting ready to "upgrade" the gTab I purchased from sellout.woot last June. Tnx!

mrsly69 wrote:Not a great price for a major downgrade from an apple Ipad or Ipad2. The market is going through a major shake up. You will be getting these IPad knock offs for $100 in a few months. The war is over and Apple won. WOW, 10 years ago I would have said Apple was over. Steve Jobs should be given the keys to corporate America. I don't think I would buy this for $99. Maybe $69. LOL

This is far from an iPad knockoff. It's a Motorola Xoom knockoff if anything. Android may have arrived on the scene after Apple iPad, but it's not a cheap knockoff, it's another option and direct competition. Some of us don't buy into Apple's high and mighty pre-packaged software and culture. The war is far from over...Some of us want options, and the ability to personalize our devices. Sure you can buy different colored cases for your iPad, but we can completely customize our interfaces.

Bought one from Soot in April (rooted running Vegan-Tab) and still use it daily. The most recent update of the Netflix app FINALLY made it work on the G-Tab, and I think it looks gorgeous on the 10" screen, viewing angle notwithstanding.

Install the G-Harmony rom and you get a stable Gingerbread ROM that works very well. Streams Netflix and Hulu+ just fine, and is nice and snappy. The problem with the Honeycomb roms is that they don't have the drivers to support hardware video acceleration for Honeycomb (aka Android 3.0), so they can be a bit sluggish. Stick with Froyo or Gingerbread based ROMS for now.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007455

You think maybe the reason the HP tablets are going for under $149 is because HP is thinking about getting out of the consumer PC business? Yep read up on it. They want to do away with their consumer stuff and just focus on business servers etc.

albertconklin wrote:So, how do we put on the Vegan-Tab ROM?

Here:
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/

OR

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=841


I had much better luck with the second then the first. Running VeganTab on mine for months now. Barring a few newb issues (my first Android device) it works great. Gmarket and Amazon AppStore both work fine (along with a few others I've found) and I use it for quite a few things, mostly games oddly enough since I'm usually an MMO kind of guy.

There are other ROM's you can put on, and the XDA site lists a few. I'm gearing up to move to honeycomb personally as ginerbread, while nice (especially after adding in the updated drivers so you can really using the power of teh dual-core and video) I want something newer.

Something to note: Lots of ROM's are including phone functions on the g-tab even though the tablet doesn't have a phone. While a bit annoying, it doesn't hurt it any even if you start dialing by accident or something.

Don't buy it unless you like to tinker. If you like to tinker, buy it - they're fun, fast, plenty of memory and the battery lasts a long time.

Load the thumb keyboard - very cool app for tablets.

aaltieri wrote:It can handle 1080p output over HDMI. I've played a few movies this way.

is this a newer version or something? My gtablet (from the last time they were here) didn't have HDMI on it (nor is it in the specs)....am i crazy?

Cakes wrote:Picked this up in a previous woot. I'd love to have my money back. You will have to root and flash ROMs which are not wholly stable onto this if you would like it to do anything close to what it was designed for.

I'll also confirm that the viewing angle is horrendous to the point of being counter productive. It's almost unusable in portrait mode unless you angle it slightly sideways.

Having used this G-Tablet a better entry price would have been the $99 the HP Tablets just dropped to.

No stability issue here running a different ROM. I have found that some apps'll mess things up a bit sometimes when you install them, and unistalling usually sets things straight again.

Even the stock ROM works nice IF you root it and apply the driver updates and the gmarket fix so you can get to there. I also recommend the Amazon market (once you download it somewhere and put it on the tablet) for even the stock units. You can transfer the package to the tablet using USB.

I have to admit that, though lacking power and slightly flawed in that your stuck with only one app store, I like the layout and function of the stock ROM, and I've switched back to it more than a couple times while trying out different ROM's. Eneded up sticking with VeganTab while I was waiting for honeycomb to finally filter down.

love it -- got one at the first woot for $60 more than they are selling here.

Ignore the whining about the navigation buttons; when you're using this in the dark all you need is the onscreen buttons displayed by the app.

Which reminds me -- the best part of having flash is that this is perfect for um, adult entertainment.

Cooter007 wrote:Bought one the first time around and after I flashed the ROM I absolutely loved it, but now it won't turn on. Worked great for months but one day when I tried to turn it on....nothing. Yes I tried NVFLASH in APX mode, but the computer won't recognize it anymore. Took it apart unhooked the battery, pressed the reset button but still nothing. I really miss it and for the price you won't find anything better (after a ROM upgrade) but I just can't risk losing more money.

Mine soft bricked on me the other day, if yours still has any juice in it and you have clockwork recovery, boot into that and partition the sd card. After I did that I was able to mount it and boot vegan tab normally. I wiped everything too, don't know if that helped. Good luck!

I have one and rooted it - also have an ipad2. Def much better than the factory software, but every so often an app crashes ... far more often in my experience than with Ipad/2. Screen quality and touch dynamics are inferrior. Yet, for the price (its cheap!), this is a good deal; you'll have a tablet that generally works well, usb & other ports not in ipad/2, decent battery life (although I agree it looses power too fast overnight). However, if you are looking for a table where price isn't an issue and your not an obsessed technie to customize what most surely won't care for in the least, go with the ipad2.

I have 2 (so far) one running CM7 one running Honeycomb.

Very solid units, they run quite fast, have good battery life and are quite responsive. The viewing angle is a mild annoyance, as is the lack of backlighting on the softkeys. Keep in mind that these problems largely vanish if you predominantly use it for reading ebooks or comics and browsing as I do.

There are nice docks available from malata for the tablet with HDMI, audio and ethernet out. In addition there are cases and screen protectors out there as well.

Also keep in mind that there is a huge community on xda developers and other sites as well.

All in all an utter steal at this price.

roebeet wrote:Thanks for the link - I honestly did not expect so many one star reviews for them. Did a quick read and it sounds like a like of "no reason" cancellations and then holding your money for longer than they should.

I'm still assuming that there's at least a 50% chance that my own order will be cancelled. But we'll see what happens.

Have you heard status for your order yet?
Mine now says "Unable to process order. Please call 1-877-379-0036, or 212-414-6024, if outside U.S.".

And this only after, they have placed a hold on my credit card, for the full amount of the 6 units I placed in my order. Grrrr!

I own one of these. I've gone the Vegan route. Still run. go nowhere near this piece of crap. RUN!!!!!

I got a gTab through Woot a while back. The stock ROM sucks. No Android Market access (they give you a "Market" icon, but it just opens the Handango website), frequent crashes, agonizingly slow at everything, and delayed response to screen touches. I rooted it with clockworkmod and then tried a few different custom roms, settling on cyanogenmod7. Now, it's lightning-fast and runs very reliably. CM7 is not based on Honeycomb (currently based on Gingerbread 2.3.1), but they worked in a few "tablet tweaks".

I was also impressed with the TnT Lite rom, which is a "corrected" version of the stock rom

I just bought my first tablet as an impulse buy a week ago at Costco. My little Asus Eee netbook (running Ubuntu) was slowly getting sick (mouse pad button issues) and I've been thinking about adding it to my growing pile of yesterday's PCs (anybody need a Commodore SX-64?)

The tablet I bought is an Acer Iconia Tab 32 Gb (no 3G or 4G, WiFi only) also running Android and it was about $349. The Iconia has good reviews and after using it for a solid week, I'm very pleased.

The Iconia has a great viewing angle and is very solidly built. Battery life isn't best in class, but at seven hours it is quite adequate.

If you have never owned a tablet before, it takes some getting used to and it can get quite frustrating while finding your way around and learning the nuances of cursor positioning by touch. After a couple of days of frustration, I was ready to return it and pick up that beautiful 11" Acer netbook I was also eyeing, but I got past that and now I'm a tablet fan-boy.

I ordered a case with a USB keyboard at Amazon (http://amzn.to/nYMmjB) so my tablet will turn into a netbook transformer - I'll have the best of both worlds :-)

tmrhymer wrote:No one buys this tablet to run the stock rom. This tablet is awesome because of the hardware it has and the fact that its impossible to brick it. Here's a rom out that's pretty popular that puts honeycomb on the tablet. There's definitely a learning curve but its well worth it. http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/17863-rom-12-bottle-of-smoke-honeycomb-for-gtab-g-tabletzpad-t2/

You're making this sound positive, but it's only to the 30 to 40% of buyers who are comfortable playing around with the system, etc.

Otherwise, you need to emphasize this is not the tablet for someone who wants a great running tablet right out of the box!

I bought one of these the last time they were offered on sellout.woot after much consideration.

http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/3ab374c8-25b5-4bad-8270-bcdf05b36776/should-i-buy-the-viewsonic-gtablet-10-1-the-next-time-woot-offers-it#23

I've enjoyed mine so far after installing Vegan-tab Ginger Edition. There are step-by-step guides on how to install custom ROMs on slatedroid if you're worried about installing ROMs. I'm not sure about the HP, but these are also impossible to brick when installing a ROM.

As for the viewing angle, I bought a Skinomi screen cover for ~$20 that seemed to help.

I had one of these from a Woot-off a while back. Kept it for about 4 months before I sold it to a friend and got an Asus Transformer instead.

The g-tab is very easily rootable, true. But as almost everyone has said, the viewing angle is terrible. That alone was a deal breaker for me. However, add to that poorly distributed internal components, and the device also feels much heavier than it actually is. My recommendation is to spend the extra cash and get an Asus, an Acer, a Samsung, heck, even an ipad. Yeah, this g-tab can be modified to the point where it's OK, but those other units are all awesome out of the box.

afex wrote:is this a newer version or something? My gtablet (from the last time they were here) didn't have HDMI on it (nor is it in the specs)....am i crazy?

It doesn't have a dedicated HDMI port. Outputs the signal via the proprietary connector, so it requires the dock or another cable.

I've got no problems with the screen angle. I don't WANT the guy next to me seeing my screen.

Battery life is much improved with the custom ROM, too.

Just jumped in on this one. Good price for a first attempt at an Android tablet for me. Only pause I had was the nVidia chipset. I've been burned by nVidia too many times now, and the Tegra reviews seem to usually have a "it froze up on me" comment somewhere in them. You can even find a few in this forum thread too. Just gotta wonder what happened to nVidia, since they used to be good but nowdays seem to have a LOT of problems with their hardware quality. But, I figured this was only a test tablet for me, and if it works great, if not I'll probably go to an ASUS or just get an iPad.

kwkilcoyne wrote:I've got no problems with the screen angle. I don't WANT the guy next to me seeing my screen.

Me too, I actually put a thumbs up for viewing angle. With 10.1", it's hard to keep your screen private. Wouldn't want to get caught reading a romance novel or something...

cutier33 wrote:Have you heard status for your order yet?
Mine now says "Unable to process order. Please call 1-877-379-0036, or 212-414-6024, if outside U.S.".

And this only after, they have placed a hold on my credit card, for the full amount of the 6 units I placed in my order. Grrrr!

Same. Looks like my TP order is dead (can't even get through to that number, right now).

I figured the likelihood of getting it was not very high, so no worries.

brchickery wrote:Now this is just downright funny... I wonder if anyone will buy these... I mean why the heck would you?

The only thing I have to complain about is the lack of 3g. (Of course that means I don't have to pay a monthly fee to use it.) It does have "N" wi-fi.

I've put the hacked firmware on there, so I may have an advantage over some others. It is faster than an iPad, and almost as fast as an iPad 2. Go ahead and compare the prices, and tell me this isn't a good deal.

aaltieri wrote:What market shake up? The market where HP killed off its tablet after two months? The sudden drop in price was because HP is run by complete poooonys who spent over a billion dollars for a tablet they had in the market for I think three weeks before the first price drop. Now they are out of the market entirely.

I'm not sure how ONE failed tablet means Apple won. I mean, doesn't the last line of your post betray your point? You admit that ten years ago you thought Apple was done.

So why are you so convinced now that no one else can ever turn anything around and replace Apple (who replaced Microsoft)?

--mop

I thought it very interesting this weekend HP is still running ads for their Tablets.

This tablet's technology is about 18 months old and I am not sure it is a good investment. I am pretty much decided I will buy an Apple IPad 2 at some point. The Android thing is just too "teckie" for me. Upgrade this, upgrade that. My daughter has a high end Android based phone and it seizes up on a regular basis. Who needs this kind of hassle? Seems like a lot of effort to make this tablet work anywhere close to how an IPad performs.

BTW... I bought a Toshiba 11.6" Netbook about six months ago for this same amount of money and it is way way faster and better. Awesome graphics. Only weights about 3 lbs. Still very portable and light to carry.

Bought one of these in the spring and have had fun learning to do the updates from other people. On my fourth or fifth update. Works great except for the camera