dwhisent


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Stuey83 wrote:Be aware that SOG customer service can be hit or miss. After I purchase a SOG multi-tool via Woot last year, I tried emailing them 3 times and finally called them.

They completely ignored all of my emails, and the woman I reached on the phone was trying to get rid of me as quick as possible as if I were a telemarketer.

If you're in the mood for my longer story about this, here it is: Sog - an example of poor customer service.

On the bright side, the tool performs reasonably well. But, for a few extra dollars, Leatherman's Super Tool 300 is a nicer tool that's backed by far nicer and more helpful customer service. A little more and the Wave offers outside-accessible knife blades and a more pocket-friendly size.



I guess it does depend on who you get. I got 3 on a previous woot and gave one to my son, a Marine, who used it for mechanical work on a missile launcher, and broke the pliers. They replaced it no problem, and threw in a small pocket knife for my trouble.

Thinkerer


quality posts: 8 Private Messages Thinkerer

The EOD rocks - I got one in a previous Woot. Full-sized, excellent fit and finish (to the point where the tiny serrations on the jaw grips interlock on closure) and the geared handle makes them very powerful.

You'll want to do two things when you get yours:

- Pop the sheet metal handguard covers off and bend the hinge flanges in just a bit so they don't come off inadvertently.

- Lash the seperate socket driver into place in the leather sheath. It's made to slide out easily and will be overenthusiastic about this .

Gigabites


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I got this model to replace my black Gerber 600 (which I had thought I had lost). I like the narrowness of the plier jaws and the the tools being "outboard" when deployed (accessible while the jaws are closed). The small socket driver is nice but I never had a need for it, since I don't carry sockets.

The tools themselves seem to be where they cut corners. The little spring wire that assists the scissors to open can break easily (I broke it after a week), the knife blade snapped after a couple days (since it's flat and thin), the flathead screwdriver is too short and narrow to be of any use. The fit and finish of their tool overall just seem... cheap compared to other makers.

Their customer support grills you like you stole it and TAKES MONTHS to send a replacement.

I found my Gerber, and it had a chip in the blade so I took it to the factory (Portland Oregon) and instead of just sharpening the blade or replacing the blade, they replaced my entire model 600 with a Diesel *for free* right there in the reception room. Now that's what I call customer service! The one hand "flick" deployment, Fisk designed scissors(and no stupid return spring wire), better blade (thick spine and better quality steel), and best of all the locks for the tools can be used one handed to disengage.

Pass on this tool and get a Gerber Diesel.

KeryAdams


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I'm a retired U.S. Army soldier. I spent most of my career in the infantry, and the rest in the combat engineers. I also specialized in communications. I always carried a multi-tool throughout my military career. I bought a SOG EOD powerlock around 2004. It's by far the best multi-tool I've ever used.

It's got just about everything you could hope for in the field. Pliers, wirecutters, a saw, the all-important knife, screwdrivers, and no fewer than five bottle openers (because hey, that's the one you're going to need the most help finding, am I right?)

What sets the SOG apart is the mechanism that operates the pliers. The whole tool turns inside out using a couple of gears, rather than the pliers sliding out like a Leatherman or Gerber. This makes the pliers much more sturdy, since there's no sliding joint to collapse on you. The gearbox actually gives you a mechanical advantage, making the grip extremely strong. You can use it as an adjustable wrench in a pinch because of that grip strength. Having all the other tools tucked in by a pair of hinged covers provides a superior grip.

The durability is phenomenal. I've used my Powerlock for everything from breaking ice to working on trucks to cutting barbed wire. The needlenose pliers are small enough at the tip to repair jewelry. I've even batoned the knife to cut down small trees. The lock has never once failed on me, although you do need to be aware of the placement of it. It seems it could be possible to accidentally release a tool if you're not careful and hold the multi-tool incorrectly, but I've never seen it happen.

I've carried this thing in the mountains of Afghanistan and the desert of Kuwait, among other places. I've submerged it in salt water, dropped it in the sand, and crossed swamps with the SOG on my belt. I've kept it out in the field for weeks at a time without cleaning or drying it, and it's never rusted on me.

I can't recommend this thing enough, even at triple the price. I think I paid around $70 for mine, and that was a steal.

deeprecon1


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EOD ?

No Blasting cap crimper
No Detonator spike

Huh, no respectable operator would use this ..

Leather man MUT FTW ...

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productID=20691&TabID=548

If your buying this as a gift for a service member I suggest you look further. However makes a great tool to have in the car glove box.

countrydoc


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cappomutato wrote:This is just what I would like to have at only 10 times what I'm willing to pay! Yay!



Unfortunately, been there, done that. The cheap ones are you get what you pay for. I have this and it takes a ton of abuse doing what it was not designed for around the farm.

bjorno


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I own this tool, and I am torn.

Pros:
Great leverage on the pliers.
1/4" Socket adapter
The individual tools lock in place, though somewhat cumbersome
Easy, one-handed opening with a quick flick of the wrist.

Cons:
The pliers, due to the compound leverage, do not open as wide as other pliers. If you need to grasp anything larger than 1" in diameter, you need to use two hands. Plus, for certain jobs, the compound leverage is too much.
The Phillips screwdriver attachment is made with a metal alloy that makes for a strong bit, but weak shaft. If you try to use it in an awkward manner, it breaks very easily.
The wire cutters are not strong enough to cut fish hooks. Not necessarily a con, as fish hooks are hardened and the tool was not made for that purpose, but still a bummer for me.
Oh, and the scissors suck.

Other than that, I love it.

chado006


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phonedog365 wrote:I'm terribly curious why you used screwdrivers with only an inch of leverage for a prying job. They're not 10" Craftsman screwdrivers with a long driver base, y'know. I guess the assumption is that if you know enough to get two brands of multitools, then you should be adept at choosing a tool, too. SOGs are convenient multitools but that doesn't mean each tool is a substitute for a -real- tool.

Next time get a prying tool for a prying job. If you EDC, then get a pocket widgy, otherwise a small prybar fits in every toolkit.



I clean windows and sometimes I have to lightly pry on a sticky storm to get it out and I can't be carrying a whole mess of tools along with a ladder, bucket etc. The Leatherman did the little bit of prying that I needed to do with ease, no bending or breaking. The first time I pried with the SOG (on a job that I do every year where I used the Leatherman for the same windows), it immediately snapped. So I can conclude that the SOG is not constructed nearly as well as the Leatherman and they know that, hence the less than stellar warranty. Yes, I could've ordered the replacement pieces but why? They'd only snap again the next time I need them.

rmallon


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mattlscc wrote:I'm sure this is on the TSA approved list of items you can carry on... NOT!



Multi-tools are OK with the TSA. Only things like colostomy bags, adult diapers, and ungroped children are banned.

April Fool 2008 Big o' Cosmos Survivor

KeryAdams


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deeprecon1 wrote:EOD ?

No Blasting cap crimper
No Detonator spike

Huh, no respectable operator would use this ..

Leather man MUT FTW ...

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productID=20691&TabID=548

If your buying this as a gift for a service member I suggest you look further. However makes a great tool to have in the car glove box.




It has both of those. The spike is in between the saw blade and the large flathead. The crimpers are on the the reverse side of the pliers, in between the grips when the tool is open.

quigles


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I'm not sure if it's this one or a similar model, but I'm really happy with my SOG multitool. The gear driven pliers are awesome!

pizzot


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EOD...YOU CAN DISPOSE BOMBS WITH THAT THING!

sab340


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I have one of these I carry in my car. You would be surprised at the number of times it has come in handy from repairs to scratching lottery tickets. Would make some great stocking stuffers for the mechanically or unmechanically inclined.

agentfox1942


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jckurk wrote:Used in Afghanistan as an EOD Team Lead this last year. The needle style nose pliers are are great for jamming into C4 for a quick blasting cap hole. No need to use a punch.

The cutters in the pliers can cut wire just as good as my medical scissors. Out of 40 IED's I probably used these for cutting and dismantling on dismounted about 10 times, as a hammer about 10 times, for punching C4 about 100 times and the knife to open MRE's about 100 times as well.

Been with me since 09', also took to Iraq with me in 09.

Sturdy, no rust, never broken. I'm a fan... of course mine was free though



Of course, your mil-spec issued one is much different than this over-priced retail version. This price is not woot-worthy, trust me.

zadrewmafoo


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Have a SOG and I love it. The leverage really is superior to my Gerber. My only complaint on this tool is the those useless, wing-like things that stick out to to cushion the handle. After about a week of them popping off every time I went to use it, I finally just threw them away.

cemx86


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I have also had a SOG for years and of all the multi-tools I own, it is my favorite.

dedicateddad ponders, "Why do all these tools require you to open the handle to access the tools inside?" I think the primarily reason is that if the tools are on the outside of the handles, the sharp tools might flop out while the knife is in your pocket. Ouch! And it keeps pocket lint out of the works too.

YdargReguoh


quality posts: 2 Private Messages YdargReguoh

As a farmer I use a sog plier like this one every day. Tools in the handles is not a problem. Had mine at least eight years and it still works great. I like it better than other brands.

Kraki


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I have had my SOG for about a year. I carry and use it daily. The V cutters are perfect for removing zip ties from bundles of RJ45 or fiber optic patches without worrying about nicking the cables.

As many have stated, the pliers enmesh VERY tightly but don't open really wide.

The only negative comment I have is that if you're going to be using the pliers to PULL on objects much, the slim metal covers for the tools tend to pop off if you're really torquing and pulling with the pliers.

I don't have the scissors, so I can't comment on their frailty. The rest of the tool is quite robust and the cross cut saw is beautiful for trimming drop ceiling tiles to run cabling.

I personally find the SOG worth every penny.

Kraki

EDIT: I see that the V cutter is replaced with the scissors on this model. I much prefer the V cutter for my work.

Tuffer11


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Not a very good deal. Needs to come down about $20.

jmbunkin


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landsnark wrote:If you're big enough for this tool, you're big enough to drink bourbon.



Hear hear but suggest if you're sipping bourbon you don't mess with the sharper tools. Bourbon breath at the ER is not a great idea and never mind how I know this!

markbradby


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sdc100 wrote:The central component of all these multitools is the pliers which forms the hub for all the other components. SOG excels here. Whereas most mutltools give a leverage ratio of about 8:1 (the pliers exert 8 lbs of pressure for every 1 lb that you apply), this SOG has a ratio of about 14:1 because of the gears. One Amazon reviewer claimed that s/he was able to cut through a quarter "like butter."



Just a warning that the added leverage ratio comes at a price: as a SOG owner, I have noticed that the extra leverage is useful when using the pliers for small items, but when trying to turn large items, say a large bolt or the mounting ring on a bicycle crank, the gears mean that the handle opens wider than my hand can reach. That extra leverage translates into more handle travel per plier travel. So to use it for larger items that the plier teeth can still fit around, you have to use two hands at incredibly awkward angles (with the additional counterproductive result that you can't get as much pinching force). For this reason I favor my leatherman for the pliers. At least i can grip them with one hand.

fzendeli


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I picked this up last time it was on here. I found the cutters limits. I was working on a deck and tried cutting the top of an old nail off. I was worried it might mess it up but I was willing to live with it. Now my cutter on the pliers has a round notch on both sides of the cutting blade and it sticks when I fully engage the pliers. Still cuts decently and all the other tools on it still rock. Used the saw blade for cutting through drywall and semi-circle cut out in a 2x4 for a water pipe.

Demetrius3D


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dedicateddad wrote:TOTALLY SCARED OF THE DARK NOW - might as well add a gripe...

Why do all these tools require you to open the handle to access the tools inside?

My first multi-tool - a cheap "winchester" from walmart - it's the only one I've seen not designed in this seemingly boooooic way!

Why?



The Victorinox Swisstool doesn't. All the tools (except the pliers, of course) are accessible with the handles closed. And, newer Leathermans have cutting tools (knives, scissors) on the outside. I prefer the Swisstool to all of these. But, it's gonna cost you $100.

Juansolo


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Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but I am curious if the wire cutter is strong enough to cut through barb wire?

benfdc


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I picked up the silver version (S61L) seven months ago on sellout.woot for $7 less than today's price. Apparently the black oxide model (B61L) lists for around $10 more than the plain tool, but I don't need the stealth.

Love my PowerLock, especially the locking function. There was no manual in the box, so I had to download one from the website.

tangstamp


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I've used nearly every multi-tool out there. You can find something out there for most any preference. Personally, I prefer the Wave by Leatherman because of the one-hand opening, outside accessible blades. The SOG PowerLock has the strongest pliers made using the compound leverage feature. They are reasonably light and very strong. Compound leverage even makes them very smooth to open, almost like a butterfly knife. It's the best butterfly-type multi-tool made. The black-oxide finish is a nice bonus you pay extra for elsewhere. Very popular with the military.

jamilworm


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I bought this same thing from woot a looong time ago and I love it. As others have mentioned the geared leverage for the pliers make them super strong. I have had no complaints with this multitool, except actually a couple times one of the thin sheet metal covers has popped off but its easy to just put it back on.

Titan151


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I had the stainless steel version of these, bought on Woot a few years ago. The lock that keeps the blade open broke after about 3 months of very light use (that model was way to big to carry around in your pocket). A knife taped to a set of pliers would be lighter. That said I don't recommend any multi-tool from SOG. You will cut your finger off.

sevvo


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I signed-up just to buy one. Notgonnalie.

ZDarryl


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This is a great deal, you save $23 over buying it at Amazon. It's $68 shipped on Amazon

7+ Years
81 woots
219 items
1 order to steal1
$2,458.57 and counting!!!!!

aaltieri


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dedicateddad wrote:TOTALLY SCARED OF THE DARK NOW - might as well add a gripe...

Why do all these tools require you to open the handle to access the tools inside?

My first multi-tool - a cheap "winchester" from walmart - it's the only one I've seen not designed in this seemingly boooooic way!

Why?



You know...I've had one of those for five years now. Never had a problem with it. It's worked on everything from car engines to networking equipment. The included sockets were trash.

For $14 for that Winchester, this SOG isn't much of a deal, if I'm honest.


ZDarryl


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Tuffer11 wrote:Not a very good deal. Needs to come down about $20.


Wow, this is already $23 less than Amazon. It's $68 shipped on Amazon

7+ Years
81 woots
219 items
1 order to steal1
$2,458.57 and counting!!!!!

mogthemoogle


quality posts: 1 Private Messages mogthemoogle
chado006 wrote:I clean windows and sometimes I have to lightly pry on a sticky storm to get it out and I can't be carrying a whole mess of tools along with a ladder, bucket etc. The Leatherman did the little bit of prying that I needed to do with ease, no bending or breaking. The first time I pried with the SOG (on a job that I do every year where I used the Leatherman for the same windows), it immediately snapped. So I can conclude that the SOG is not constructed nearly as well as the Leatherman and they know that, hence the less than stellar warranty. Yes, I could've ordered the replacement pieces but why? They'd only snap again the next time I need them.



Bah-zing.

ZDarryl


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deeprecon1 wrote:EOD ?

No Blasting cap crimper
No Detonator spike

Huh, no respectable operator would use this ..

Leather man MUT FTW ...

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productID=20691&TabID=548

If your buying this as a gift for a service member I suggest you look further. However makes a great tool to have in the car glove box.



The Leatherman MUT looks awesome, but, Holy crap dude, the Leatherman MUT is $160!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7+ Years
81 woots
219 items
1 order to steal1
$2,458.57 and counting!!!!!

Oxyacetylene


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Oxyacetylene

This is a great tool for the price. I have two of them (one for each car) in the plain polished finish. I am impressed with how well the pliers work. The only complaint I have is the roughness of the scissors (how the blades are ground/sharpened)...you can feel the nicks in the blade as you operate them. At any rate, I'm in for more to give as gifts.

nmill005


quality posts: 1 Private Messages nmill005

Any one know how this would hold up after being baked in a cake?

stevef2222


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nmill005 wrote:Any one know how this would hold up after being baked in a cake?



you related to madoff? ;-)

landsnark


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smartheart wrote:My question though is where are the 5 or 6 multitools I've bought previously and never been able to find in the various places I must havee stashed them around the house.


The correct tool for finding them would be a cartoon magnet. (It's also the best tool for removing nails from boards.) Someday Woot is going to sell a cartoon magnet and I am going to buy three, then set up three more accounts so I can buy nine more. I've needed one for so many jobs.

Detroitphan


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Detroitphan

I've been waiting for this to go under $50 forever! Just got back from Grand Tetons, and really wish I would've had this. Anyone know if NOT having the V-cutter is a big deal? Thanks

pshipley


quality posts: 1 Private Messages pshipley

i ordered two last time, they are worth every woot cent paid...