RWoodward wrote:Significant other: "You paid $575 for a freaking vacuum? Take the damned thing back!"

Purchaser: "OK, FINE!" [whisper]jerk.

I'm sure that can happen sometimes, but if someone never used the vacuum (even if the box was opened) it doesn't go back to the factory or get refurbed.

If the vacuum was actually used, then yes it would go back because it could no longer be sold as "new".

My parents had a Dyson. It wasn't anything special.

mattlscc wrote:My next vacuum will be a robot... probably a roomba. Sorry Dyson.

I got a Roomba 780 2 months ago and I'm very pleased with it. It's cheap or perfect, but it does everything but stairs in my house since it arrived and the place never looked better. I spend a few minutes picking up dog toys, then let it do it thing on a schedule (Tues & Friday while I'm at work). Sometimes it gets hung up on a carpet fringe but most days it works great.

One thing that always cracks me up when woot does a vacuum sale is how many people have owned 50 different brands of vacuums lol. Are you kidding me? So you guys just run around and spend thousands on vacuums just to try them out your whole life hoping to finally find that magical answer to all of your sweeping needs?

I couldn't tell you what the hell I own now, let a lone what I owned 15 years ago.

As for this deal, 249 for a refurb dyson looks like a good deal...so you either want one or not lol it's a vacuum.

Refurbish worries me - has anyone had any problems with getting a refurbished one?

enantiodromia wrote:Someone said to check Consumer Reports. So I did:

"Best bagless upright vacuum: Dyson DC28"

"In our tests, the DC24 excelled at cleaning bare floors. It also produced extremely low emissions when vacuuming, and did not redistribute any of the dust it collected back into the air."

I'm not sure where you're getting that info, but Consumer Reports is giving me different information. The highest rated bagless upright is a Hoover, and it costs a fraction of the Dyson (approx. $130). The Dyson DC28 is relatively highly rated, but no other Dyson vacuum is near the top. And while the Dyson DC24 received an excellent mark for cleaning bare floors, it was not good in other respects: It is the second lowest rated vacuum, received mediocre ratings for carpet cleaning, and got a poor rating for tool airflow.

The Dyson up for this Woot! (the DC25) received a score of 54, which places it roughly in the middle of the pack among bagless upright models tested by CR (the scores range from 40 to 69).

I don't necessarily think that one should base purchase decisions on Consumer Reports, but I wanted to make sure that folks had correct information. The post to which I'm responding gives an incomplete/inaccurate picture of Consumer Reports' conclusions on Dysons.

I purchased a refurbished dyson a few years ago after having one at another place we own. Was very disappointed, suction never worked the same even after it was sent to a repair company of theirs. Would never buy a refurbished dyson from woot again. $279. down the drain.

akbopper wrote:The highest rated bagless upright is a Hoover, and it costs a fraction of the Dyson (approx. $130).

What was the model name/number for the Hoover? Did they mention it was highest rated for value or for performance/build quality?

luk3d4wg wrote:...
And one more thing: anyone who is concerned with allergens, dust mites, etc. should really think twice about buying a bagless vacuum at all. Every time you pour that big puff off dirt into your garbage, all those germs that your fancy filtration system worked so hard to eliminate go right back into the air. Unless of course you want to empty your dirt cup outside in the middle of winter. ;)

Honestly, I can't imagine anyone emptying that thing in the house, EVER.

How hard is it to step to the back door and drop it into the can?

We had a hoover upright that the sales/repair-guy said was equivalent to the oreck. Paid ~$400 for it ~10 years ago. It's always worked fine but...

We also had another one I'd bought simply to avoid having to haul the vac up & down the stairs...

The Boy bought a Dyson "ball" a few years back and I used it while caring for him after an injury. I was amazed with its engineering and how incredibly well-designed it was in terms of ergonomics and etc. Simply awesome to use!

For clarity, our house is carpeted with a VERY flat, VERY tight weave of fiber. It's actually "commercial carpet" but fit our decor and designer's aesthetics and - with 4 kids and 2 big dogs - good common sense as well... ~12 years later it's still as good as new in most places! I mention this only because it definitely makes the whole vacuuming thing into a different proposition...

We bought the "all-floors" DC14 last month from Woot. As a test, SWMBO vac;d with the old one (she's OCD so you KNOW it was done right!) then I worked the new Dyson. We were both amazed and disgusted to see the crap in the can from the supposedly "just-cleaned" floor!

It was especially striking given the tight weave of our carpet. Some cheaper carpets can have the actual carpet fiber breaking off - ESPECIALLY if the beater-bar is reaggo;n nnb lly tough on it - and thus LOOK like it's catching more stuff when it's actually CREATING it!

In our case, it really was crud - mostly dust - that the Dyson sucked out of the carpet that the older vac had left behind!

This was more than enough for me to be sold on Dyson!

Maybe the "miele" (sp?) is better - I don't know as I've never used one. One thing I am SURE about, however: it's not TEN TIMES as g

enantiodromia wrote:Someone said to check Consumer Reports. So I did:

Must be all those dumb rich people out there, right?

So... Bernie Maddoff got 50 billion from all those smart poor people?

Sorry, I agree with your OTHER arguments however, but the last one made me laugh.

allfong wrote:What was the model name/number for the Hoover? Did they mention it was highest rated for value or for performance/build quality?

The Hoovers are the Windtunnel T-Series Bagless models UH70120 and UH70110.

The overall scores are "based mainly" (CR's words) on "cleaning performance and ease of use." My impression is that, while value may tip the balance between to modes that are otherwise similar or identical in performance, the ratings are not intended as a bang-for-buck sort of ranking. That is, I doubt the inexpensiveness of the Hoover had much, if any, bearing on its overall score. It is worthwhile to note that the models directly behind the Hoovers are a $500 LG and a $600 Dyson (DC28), which suggests that value is probably not a decisive variable in the scoring.

I should note also that, according to CR, the Dysons are slightly (and by slightly, I mean probably not to a degree that is statistically relevant) less repair prone than Hoovers.

note2001 wrote:Good to hear about your DC14! Mine's "in transit" per FedEx. Still whining to woot for not offering this DC25 first.

Woot's Dyson DC14 <- still available at $179 +$5 ship

I actually didn't get a shipping notice, I woke up Thursday and got ready for work and as I was heading out the door at 9AM it was on my front porch.

Words can't explain how happy I am about that $184 purchase. It is Amazing!!! If you want a Dyson for under $200 get the DC14. I used it on carpet and hardwoods it is the greatest.

akbopper wrote:The Hoovers are the Windtunnel T-Series Bagless models UH70120 and UH70110.

Has anyone used either of these and would like to comment? A number of reviews lead me to question durability.

Anyone know the Air Watts rating for these two vacuums?

jeffrjohn wrote:I'm the opposite. My wife and I were discussing buying one yesterday and seeing the DC25 for $70 more than the DC14 when it actually has less sucking power convinced me to buy the DC14 instead. I'm also glad to see the previous post has good things to say.

It was a smartest purchase I have made in a long time. Took it out of the box and other than it being in a brown box and not a fancy Dyson box it looked brand new. I don't know if I could tell the difference from a new one. At a 1/3 of the cost it is AMAZING!

"the bose of vacuums.. "

well said.. perfect analogy.. It's cheaper to advertize quality then it is to produce it..

Costner wrote:Queue the "this woot sucks" comments!

Seriously though... Dyson is the Bose of the vacuum cleaner world. It is all marketing but when put head to head with others they never come out ahead.

I know it sounds old school, but if you are concerned about air quality and want the cleanest air possible you really have to go with a bag style vac. Miele makes some amazing ones and they have been rated number one in head to head tests. Granted you have to pay a premium for them.

If you want something a bit less expensive, both Hoover and Kenmore make vacs that perform better than the Dyson for the same or less money.

I'm not saying Dyson makes a bad vacuum by any means, but they just aren't incredible. For $250 this isn't a bad deal, but keep in mind it is a refurb. You could spend that same money on a new model of another vac and probably get a longer warranty.

Don't buy into the hype. James Dyson is a marketing genius, but his vacuums aren't anything special. They are just vacuums.

Oh yea and before some Dyson owner responds to accuse me of never having used a Dyson I can assure you that is incorrect. I also do not work for a competitor. As to what I personally own... well when I bought my house it came with a central vac system by Nutone, so that is what I currently use. Previously I had a cheap Hoover and before that I had a expensive Electrolux. They all worked fine but the central vac has more power than anything around (which stands to reason considering the size of the motors), so I'm happy with it.

Seriously searching for these answers I've asked other times when Dysons were on Woot:

Questions:

1)Is a Dyson ball vac more maneuverable than un-balled vacs. My huge problem with vacs is that they can't turn tight corners and around tight spaces.

2) How's the weight on this unit? Regular vacs weigh a ton to move around (thus not maneuverable)and FORGET lifting them.

3)heard complaints about using the hoses on the Dysons. I need a long flexible hose. Any problem on this unit?

I own THREE Dysons, the animal was my first. I purchased that because I have 3 real dogs. THey are Great Pyreyees rescues. All between 130-160 lbs and alot of long, long white hair. Got the animal over 3 years ago; NOT a SINGLE problem with it.
I purchased one like this 2 years ago for the basement, it does not have as much capacity or power as the animal but it does an excellent job if one is not a complete disgusting pig and let the place get real dirty.
I also have the tiny Dyson car vac, that is Super excellent to vacuum dog hair off the floors of my vehicles. I have leather seats in the vehicles so hair is never a problem on the seats, but the long pyr hair gets into the vehicle carpeting and needs to be vacuumed out once a week or so.
ALL THREE of my dysons are excellent quality, nothing broke on them and I use my big animal one daily during shedding season, and every two days when the dogs are done with their main shedding as pyrs still do shed alot of hair all year round.
I think the ones that do not like their Dysons must be using them improperly, I have had no problems with heavy use with any of mine. Perhaps they need to clean house more so that they arent trying to remove sludge?

How can you have a vac that does not change heights? Or does this claim to do it "automatically". Heck, one house can have textured shag, berber and hardwood? Can this unit handle all that?

Gatzby wrote:Did you just call us dumb? =\

No, no, no. You WERE dumb. Now you're just evil.

Before you buy this you should check out reviews, especially the negative reviews. I am not even close to being enthusiastic about the Dyson I purchased. Dyson's have some serious issues when it comes to vacuuming throw rugs, area rugs and transitioning between surfaces. I bought my first and last Dyson a few weeks ago. Let the buyer beware. Some people love these machines. Not me.

jeffrjohn wrote:No, no, no. You WERE dumb. Now you're just evil.

Thank you for clarifying, that makes all the difference!

kettes wrote:Still, we are being asked to pay 250 dollars for a vacuum that has previously broken and has been repaired.

No thanks.

my friend bought the last dyson that was up like 2 weeks ago. comes with a warranty and tells you what was refurbished. his was the canister. ya never know what you're gonna get now do ya....

rawmeat wrote:Seriously searching for these answers I've asked other times when Dysons were on Woot:

Questions:

1)Is a Dyson ball vac more maneuverable than un-balled vacs. My huge problem with vacs is that they can't turn tight corners and around tight spaces.

2) How's the weight on this unit? Regular vacs weigh a ton to move around (thus not maneuverable)and FORGET lifting them.

3)heard complaints about using the hoses on the Dysons. I need a long flexible hose. Any problem on this unit?

i've had a dc15 animal for years. the ball is extremely maneuverable. the weight is probably pretty consistent with most vacs it's size. i have no beef with it prob around 15 pounds? and the hose is fine for me and very flexable. only complaints i've seen is about the length. there really is nothing like a dyson though....and i just bought one of these...

zhinka wrote:I own THREE Dysons, the animal was my first. I purchased that because I have 3 real dogs. THey are Great Pyreyees rescues. All between 130-160 lbs and alot of long, long white hair. Got the animal over 3 years ago; NOT a SINGLE problem with it.
I purchased one like this 2 years ago for the basement, it does not have as much capacity or power as the animal but it does an excellent job if one is not a complete disgusting pig and let the place get real dirty.
I also have the tiny Dyson car vac, that is Super excellent to vacuum dog hair off the floors of my vehicles. I have leather seats in the vehicles so hair is never a problem on the seats, but the long pyr hair gets into the vehicle carpeting and needs to be vacuumed out once a week or so.
ALL THREE of my dysons are excellent quality, nothing broke on them and I use my big animal one daily during shedding season, and every two days when the dogs are done with their main shedding as pyrs still do shed alot of hair all year round.
I think the ones that do not like their Dysons must be using them improperly, I have had no problems with heavy use with any of mine. Perhaps they need to clean house more so that they arent trying to remove sludge?

Where did you get your tiny Dyson car vac? What model is it?

Bought the same kind off Woot! last year and it still sucks.

Wonderful machine, wonderful price.

kglass28 wrote:my friend bought the last dyson that was up like 2 weeks ago. comes with a warranty and tells you what was refurbished. his was the canister. ya never know what you're gonna get now do ya....

Do you know where it tells you what was refurbished? I would like to know on mine what was fixed.

This is undeniably an awesome vacuum. I bought mine at BB&B a few years ago and it's great for getting around corners.

You know someone during the last Woot-Off had a great suggestion: dyson.woot.com

Not all Dysons got great reviews. This model seems to have a poor review at Amazon ...

Dyson DC14

dedicateddad wrote:Honestly, I can't imagine anyone emptying that thing in the house, EVER.

How hard is it to step to the back door and drop it into the can?

Maybe the "miele" (sp?) is better - I don't know as I've never used one. One thing I am SURE about, however: it's not TEN TIMES as g

Not everyone has the convenience of having a garbage can right outside their door. If you do, great! It will make emptying your Dyson a lot easier (but still, hold your breath!).

And I know the Miele is more expensive. But they start for less than a Dyson's retail price and they are "the best" where Dysons simply aren't.

http://www.ultraconsumer.com/?p=7

Bought 1 when it was last on woot around May,2011 . It was Refurbed. It looked like new when we opened it, and has worked great since then. I would recommend it

cherman1 wrote:Not all Dysons got great reviews. This model seems to have a poor review at Amazon ...

Dyson DC14

Just wanted to double check, but that was a joke right? You forgot to use the SarcMark

So glad I didn't pull the trigger on this Saturday. WOW! Can't wait to get it in!

Have one, good for around the house stuff. Certainly not a commercial grade unit. Have Windsor units for those jobs.

dedicateddad wrote:Honestly, I can't imagine anyone emptying that thing in the house, EVER.

How hard is it to step to the back door and drop it into the can?

Really not interested in going outside in the middle of winter just so I can vacuum. Besides, inside/outside it doesn't matter, the momment you drop the bottom of the cylinder you are in a cloud of dust. Dust on your clothes, shoes, socks and god forbid you can't hold your breath while your doing it. So much for hypoallergenic

Bought one last year to replace our Miele. Best vacuum ever. You don't realize how handy the ball is for maneuverability until you use it.

As far as suction goes, it gets pet hair and dirt out of our carpet unbelievably well.

Cons are that it doesn't pick up stuff on tile like dog food pellets etc very well. Also the telescoping bar is SOOO poorly designed. It's really hard to use, and if you put any tension on it the vacuum falls over which is kind of annoying.

I don't understand everyone who complains about emptying it. I just emptied ours a couple hours ago into our kitchen garbage. All the stuff drops out and a little bit of dust poofs up but sheez. We're pretty anal and I've never even considered having to go outside to empty it. I took a picture here just because I can't fathom what these people who are like "WOO! PUMPKINS! the minute you open it dust is everywhere!!" are doing to spew stuff all over.

http://vvcap.net/db/7xBl9FEK7-fs47nxSovv.htp

Overall though I would recommend it to anyone. We love it.

rawmeat wrote:How can you have a vac that does not change heights? Or does this claim to do it "automatically". Heck, one house can have textured shag, berber and hardwood? Can this unit handle all that?

I have hardwood, tile, and medium pile carpet. The DC25 works great on all of them. As I said before, only suction problem is with pellet type things (small rocks, dog food) on the tile.

NoSup4U wrote:Bought one last year to replace our Miele. Best vacuum ever. You don't realize how handy the ball is for maneuverability until you use it.

As far as suction goes, it gets pet hair and dirt out of our carpet unbelievably well.

Cons are that it doesn't pick up stuff on tile like dog food pellets etc very well. Also the telescoping bar is SOOO poorly designed. It's really hard to use, and if you put any tension on it the vacuum falls over which is kind of annoying.

I don't understand everyone who complains about emptying it. I just emptied ours a couple hours ago into our kitchen garbage. All the stuff drops out and a little bit of dust poofs up but sheez. We're pretty anal and I've never even considered having to go outside to empty it. I took a picture here just because I can't fathom what these people who are like "WOO! PUMPKINS! the minute you open it dust is everywhere!!" are doing to spew stuff all over.

http://vvcap.net/db/7xBl9FEK7-fs47nxSovv.htp

Overall though I would recommend it to anyone. We love it.

I'm surprised anyone would replace a Miele with a Dyson, to be honest!

The horrible wand tool is almost reason enough to not recommend the Dyson in my mind. And for many people, emptying the dust cup isn't a big deal at all. But whether it bothers you or not, you're crazy if you think this doesn't render any sort of filtration system on the vacuum completely useless...

luk3d4wg wrote:I'm surprised anyone would replace a Miele with a Dyson, to be honest!

The horrible wand tool is almost reason enough to not recommend the Dyson in my mind. And for many people, emptying the dust cup isn't a big deal at all. But whether it bothers you or not, you're crazy if you think this doesn't render any sort of filtration system on the vacuum completely useless...

Miele was about 12 years old, had already had the motor replaced once and just wasn't working well anymore. It was a great vacuum though when it worked well. Was just expensive to buy, expensive to fix, and the bags were super expensive. (The motor had to be replaced because we used aftermarket cheap bags for a while that didn't filter well apparently)

Based on your comment, I'm guessing you don't understand the point of a filtration system. Here is what happens: As you vacuum, you suck up dirt from your floor. If the air running through your vacuum isn't filtered, micro-particles of dirt are sprayed all over your house as you move the vacuum around from room to room by the high powered suction motor on your vacuum.

Now contrast that with emptying your canister. A small puff of dust poofs up in a very localized area (inside your garbage can) then falls to the ground, which in this case is inside your garbage can. Do you see how that is totally different than the previous scenario where micro particles are sprayed all over your house by the vacuum motor and that a small localized puff of dust does not make the dyson's filtration system "totally useless"?

I can agree that the wand tool is terrible though and totally can see why that would keep someone from recommending it. I do not understand what they were thinking with it, it is so bad.