Yep, this will work well in Woot's previous Mountain Trails Grand Pass 2-Room 6-7 Person Family Dome Tent.

Since this one has such good reviews, if you want a larger cot:

Slumberjack Big Cot which costs less at Amazon.
Weight Capacity: 350 lbs
Dimensions: 32 x 82 x 19 in
Product Weight: 22 lbs

These things are awesome and the same as used by the US Army. I slept on one for nine months while deployed to Bosnia and have to agree that it is VERY comfortable when you place a thin foam matress on it. I'm in for two!

wunami wrote:Someone mentioned possibly getting cold on these because it's just a thin piece of fabric. Solution is simply to put some kind layer down then sleep on it. For example, if you're camping, then just sleep in a sleeping bag but on the cot. Likely more comfortable than sleeping bag on the ground and probably warmer since heat loss by convection is probably less than heat loss by conduction.

Well, in some cases, yes. If used indoors, then a sleeping bag under you might be enough, but remember that you are compressing the sleeping bag to nothingness under you, and the insulation value has been reduced to zero (there will likely be uncomfortable cool spots). If you are camping, then you want a closed-cell camping pad or similar non-compressing insulation on top of the cot first. I like a sheet of Reflectix, essentially bubble wrap with a foil layer on each side.

And no, convection heat loss is constantly renewing, while conduction slows because the ground actually gets warmer as you lay there longer. The air passing under you never gets warmer. As a 7+ year hammock camper, I'll attest that you need non-compressing insulation under you even when the air temp is in the 70's.

borntohunt wrote:Yep, this will work well in Woot's previous Mountain Trails Grand Pass 2-Room 6-7 Person Family Dome Tent.

Be careful of the wear and tear that the feet of this cot will put on the tent floor. In soft ground you'll easily puncture the fabric of the floor. I have used pieces of cardboard to prevent damage when using a similar cot inside a tent.

halcyi0n wrote:This cot has excellent reviews on campmor, but the deal doesn't seem that fantastic 40 as opposed to 55 http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___47360

Factor in shipping, and it's slightly better at $45 versus $63.

casepeople6 wrote:I have a question. I am 6'3". Is this going to be long enough that I would be able to sleep on it relatively comfortably? Or is that not really a good idea?

No it isn't long enough as it's total length is 6'3". Your head and feet will be on the bars. The oversize model for taller folks can be seen here: http://www.sunnysports.com/Catalog.aspx?op=BrandItemDisplay&BrandName=Slumberjack&ProductID=SMJBC&Sort=Stock&DescSort=0

I've owned one of the oversize models for several years and even at 6'3" I find it very comfortable. The only downside of this design is that the end bars stick out pretty far. You'll find yourself crashing into them often. But it IS nice to sleep on! I've even slept on mine in a tent in the Colorado mountains at 8 below zero. :-O A thermal pad on the cot is VERY desirable in cold weather! ;-)

Jonas4321 wrote:Factor in shipping, and it's slightly better at $45 versus $63.

Even less at $41.67 if folks buy 3 from Woot.

bobesponja wrote:I'm a Slumberjack and I'm ok,

Awesome! Exactly what came to my mind.

Very odd,just showed this to my wife and she said "Buy one, you're gonna need it".

Laserwulf wrote:Wow, it's the civilian version of an Army cot! Seriously, I was on one of these for two weeks in Iraq, waiting for the previous unit to depart. They're okay for a night, but after a week the floor starts looking pretty comfy. And unless the design has been refined, they are not quick nor easy to properly assemble. The bar at each end has holes for the lengthwise-bars to fit into, and the drum-like tautness of the canvas requires a LOT of muscle to get the removable bars onto the securing notches.

Really? I was on these twice in Saudi and Afghan, totaling about 1 year of sleeping on them. They were decent for me, and I never thought of sleeping on the floor. Not once. Only problem; if you are over 5' 8" your fee will hang. There were worse situations I could've been in, so I just decided not to complain about it. And your take on the assembly is pretty spot on. They are definitely not the easiest thing to get together.

Slept on one a couple years ago during power outage--never did get final support attached. Slept on similar cot for entire summer 40 years ago but I was certainly more flexible then.

The secret to a good guest bed is for it to be comfortable enough for one or two nights, but not more.

magesu wrote:How easy are these on the back?

I cant imagine sleeping more than 2 or 3 days on these before your back shows signs of strain...but then again, its a good way to discourage guests from staying too long =D

When I was young and fearless I slept on on of these for 3 months in a tent. It was rough on my back. Over time tended to lose support in the areas that needed it the most.

Hint: We used newspaper to make a barrier under the sleeping bag to reduce heat loss.

That said it was a lot better than the ground.

Perfect for OccupyWoot!

halcyi0n wrote:This cot has excellent reviews on campmor, but the deal doesn't seem that fantastic 40 as opposed to 55 http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___47360

but compared to the prices on other Campmor cots... I just got 1 for my house (unlucky guests) and two for the town's emergency shelter.

These would go well with the 7 man tent woot had available a few weeks ago!

I just bought very similar cots from w@(%art for Cub Scout camping. We used sleeping pads over the top, and sleeping bags on top of those. Also, to counter the uber-taut fabric, I brought a scrap piece of 2x4 along and set it right across the top of the frame right at the end (right above the leg bracket). That spread the side rails apart just enough (with my 200# assistance) to latch the end braces.

Worth having one or two around for comfort camping or for extra guests or kiddo sleepovers.

I used cots almost identical to this (but green) in Afghanistan for a year. They're incredibly sturdy, and amazingly comfortable. Only problem is it tends to get a bit chilly underneath, so you may want a blanket or additional mattress underneath you while sleeping.

cybersheep wrote:Put yoga mat on help keep you warm in winter or at high elevation camping.

I have a similar cot I use for winter camping in michigan. I tried using a closed cell sleeping pad under it to retain heat. The problem is that perspiration/moisture collects where the sleeping bag contacts the pad. This moisture freezes when you get out and thaws the next night when you get back in. After a couple of days you have a wet bag (honest, it's perspiration). If you use a pad use something like carpeting or a folded blanket that will eventually transfer the moisture to the air. A yoga mat might do it. I'm not sure of their construction.

CowboyDann wrote:the bars along the length of the cot go like this V V V and then you have |\|/| down the middle of the length where each | = a V (if that makes sense, it probably doesn't).

Edit: what I'm trying to say is: You don't sleep on any bars.

Can you use it to sleep at the Bar?

Looks good for the zombie apocalypse.

I bought the Coleman version from Walmart for $99.99 last year. It came with an air mattress to fit in the built-in pocket. It is a firm bed without the mattress. Awkward feel due it being narrow. It is a stuggle to assemble but is definitely solid and durable. Worth the price!!

After doing much research online, I am yet to find any benchmarks for this item as it pertains to pelvic thrust threshold. I would like to use this for any companion I may meet at the bar who does not meet "bed standards." I would also like to know any weak points on the surface that may not endure some of the more adventurous karma sutra positions.

$51.60 and eligible for Prime shipping on Amazon with mostly good reviews.

I really hate cots. I'm more comfortable on the ground or the floor. If I needed an emergency bed, I'd get the Coleman Quick Bed for $42.21 with free shipping. It doesn't come with a pump, but you can pick one up with the money saved by not having to buy a pad for the cot.
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000002847-4-in-1-Quickbed/dp/B00339C3JG/

As for me, I am in for one. I am going to use mine on Wall Street so I can OCCUPY a cot and not the ground.

I have a slumberjack cot. As stated the last connection pole is hard to make with one person, particulary when intoxicated and trying to set up. These sleep great...I think I sleep in this better than most beds, and it is WAY better than an air mattress.

bobesponja wrote:I'm a Slumberjack and I'm ok,
My fabric's black and my legs are grey,
I let you sleep, up off the ground,
and I'm there for emer-gen-seeeee!

Chorus:
He's a Slumberjack and he's o.k..
His fabric's black and his legs are grey!

Next verse?

airbeds put cots out of business. slept on cot in 1st grade, remember as uncomfortable.

No thanks.

julierizzo wrote:The secret to a good guest bed is for it to be comfortable enough for one or two nights, but not more.

Why not just become a hermit? I wouldn't visit you and people who do should'nt with your attitude of push em out the door rather than hoping guests are comfortable..

I have a bad back and need something to keep me off the hard ground when I go camping. I purchased a similar style cot that I used for a couple of years with our Scout troop, camping an average of once per month on it. I opted for one that was longer (81 inches) since it would fit in my tent and being right at 6 feet tall the 75" cot was going to be too small. If you are over about 5'8" you will want a longer cot if you plan to use a cot regularly. Assembly was difficult the first time because the canvas hadn't stretched and you can pinch a finger rather painfully if you don't use the heel of your hand to push the end of the spreader over the peg. The more you sleep on it and stretch the canvas the easier the assembly becomes, so you may want to set it up at home and sleep on it a few nights before taking it camping. I used an inflatable air mattress on top of my cot and it was some of the best sleeping I've ever had. I never got cold on it even when the temperatures were in the upper teens, though you might want to use an insulating pad if you tend to get cold at night and don't have a properly rated sleeping bag for the temperature. I eventually had to discard mine when one of the middle legs bent when I sat on the edge of the cot to lace up my boots. Apparently the single leg wouldn't support my 200 pound weight and it bent about 15 degrees. Since it's hollow aluminum I couldn't easily straighten it. I purchased a Coleman folding cot to replace it, which is sturdier but doesn't pack down as small for transport. It also includes a mattress pad, which is very comfortable so I don't use the air mattress any longer.

yeawuteva wrote:that bar across the middle looks like it would cause back pain...

Slept on ones very similar in Afghanistan the middle bar won't hurt your back.


Cot > Ground all ways. Trust me I know.

In for one! This is small enough the husband can keep it in his office for a lunch time nap or the occasional winter weather sleep-over.

We can fit three of these in a high-side 10x10 tent and have plenty of room underneath for suitcases and stuff leaving the middle of the tent clear. My husband shortened ONE side of each end bar to make them fit into the tent better and I am able to assemble them with a little effort. I use a thin self-inflating mattress with mine because I'm a side sleeper. These are so much more reliable than air mattresses and guests of all sizes have slept on them without complaint. You can moisten the fabric and it will shrink back to it's original tautness when dry too.

bplinson wrote:These things are awesome and the same as used by the US Army. I slept on one for nine months while deployed to Bosnia and have to agree that it is VERY comfortable when you place a thin foam matress on it. I'm in for two!

Yeah, we had these in Iraq. They can get very comfy. Especially with a sleeping bag. It's not too bad on your back, but I had to get used to it. There is a trick to getting it tight. We used another one of the "end sticks" and used it as a pry bar to pull it tight. But then again, they were Used Army Equipment, so it might not apply to a new item.

Can't believe it took all the way to page 2 for Laserwulf to comment on the "military-like" build!

These look VERY similar to the standard issue military cot. Don't sit on the end to play cards, if the other people sitting on it get up, it will tip you right on your butt.

To put together- get it all correctly assembled MINUS the end bars. Put it on the floor. Put both endbars into the fabric and make sure the bars are ABOVE the cot. Put one onto the end where it goes. Sit on the cot and use your feet to stretch the other end bar where it goes- careful, if you let it snap and fall below the end, you might have to take the bar out of the fabric to reposition and start all over again..

(this is how I break it down, too- push with the feet to get one end loose. after that it's all easy.)

you're welcome
-135lb skinny guy :-)

greenie44 wrote:Any opinions on how this would work for a spare bed for occasional use?

I've used a good camping cot with one of those slightly inflatable camping mats and the support and comfort were both fine.