I bought one last time.

and gave a detailed response why I decided to buy it. 32GB - SD - built in GPS etc...

It is probably one of the only tech decisions I regret....

And the reason is simple - "IT's the APPs Stupid"

For the next X months/years the IPAD will have more and better apps - FACT.

I got it at $399 - $329 is amazing
Don't worry about refirb mine was brand spanking new (probably returned from a store that did not sell)

There is lots great - but I find myself frustrated so often - that Android Tablets get the sloppy seconds - in terms of app.

My 2 cents -

[also - silly things like cases and add-ons on ebay it is like 100-1 in favor of Ipad ..

unksol wrote:There is a new "charging spec" for USB 2.0 used soley to charge batteries. My tablet came with a 2 amp charger. Average cell phone charger is 500ma. My tablet will also charge. Slowly. On a cell charger. If I don't use it at the same time. Ipads wont because Steve thinks users are too stupid to understand it charges slower when you give it a quarter of the power, so to make it "just work" it doesnt

Your slam on the iPad isn't true. iPad will charge just fine from, for example, an iPhone charger, or from the USB connection on my computer, albeit more slowly. The iPad will say "Not charging" at the top of the display, but it actually is charging. Now why they didn't just say "charging slowly" or something, I don't know. But it does just work.

DaZoneRanger wrote:Actually, WebOS hasn't been abandoned at all. HP is still working on updates for it and they're planning on selling or licensing the platform. It's a great OS.

HP hasn't decided what they're going to do with webOS. They could even end up keeping it.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/8/2548121/hp-no-decision-webos

HP CEO Meg Whitman just told a room full of Palm and HP employees that the company doesn't yet know what to do with webOS. "It's really important to me to make the right decision, not the fast decision," she told those gathered with her on the HP campus, adding that a decision would come in the next three to four weeks. This comes as a bit of a surprise, as reports recently swirled that the computer-maker has been in discussions to sell off the troubled mobile platform to the highest bidder. "If HP decides [to keep webOS], we're going to do it in a very significant way over a multi-year period," she said, adding that "it's a very expensive proposition, but HP can make that bet."

chris12345 wrote:2.7/5 reviews, but that was before the price drop: http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/299933f7-e171-4553-b932-912ddb504762/black-portfolio-case-for-motorola-xoom-tablets

Thats a good price for that cover, but it has shortcomings with being able to access all the ports with it closed.

I looked for a while and came across the ZooGue for Xoom and its great. Not as cheap as the one listed above, but all ports are accessable and it is very positionable. The strap even helps to hold it in portrait mode. Highly recommended.

tiger4062 wrote:Nice unit. Nice price. Can anyone suggest a good, reasonably priced portfolio type cover for it?

Leather cover measurements look like it will fit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250928906876

eastbayitguy wrote:Have one - love it, Honeycomb has great integration with Google apps. Battery life is good, like the SD expansion slot. Pretty fast for games as well. . Would be in for another but just recovering from woot-off.

Glad you posted. I bought one weeks ago on Woot for $20 more with a tone of glowing posts recommending it, haven't used it yet, then Amazon put it up for less, now Woot, and now the reviews are more negative for some reason.

Does this thing have 3G? I know that the CNET review says it does, but I wanted to make sure this one that Woot is advertising has it

Pro: streams netflix video.
Con: no video for Skype.

No 3G just Wifi

gtoal wrote:Pro: streams netflix video.
Con: no video for Skype.

Xoom got Skype video calling around two months ago.

and it does do skype video now.

These have a great selection of accessories for anyone who is looking to get a protective case or external keyboard!

Love my Xoom!

a good portfolio case....
Bear Motion ® 100% Real Leather Case for For Motorola Xoom 10.1 inch tablet available at Amazon.com. for only $19.99

I've had one since May, and for what it is, I love it. Transformer Prime will be better, but this tablet's not going to be "obsolete" for a while. Most Android apps are written to run on last year's device; if and when Android tablet adoption rates pick up to the point that people start developing lots of apps for them, they'll still be writing to run on the first crop of Honeycomb devices.

But it's certainly a legitimate criticism that Android is an also-ran when it comes to the app market, especially for tablets. As more and more game makers start developing in Unity, hopefully we'll see more games bleeding over to Android, but right now the Xoom is mostly useful to me because it has a browser and media player.

tiger4062 wrote:Nice unit. Nice price. Can anyone suggest a good, reasonably priced portfolio type cover for it?

Bear Motion ® 100% Real Leather Case for For Motorola Xoom 10.1 inch tablet $19.99 @ Amazon

Isn't this just an over sized Droid? These tablets are just a fad.

Netbooks will always be better hah hahahahahhaah...

Oh man, it's hard to not laugh at how anti-tablet people were just last year.

Now they can't wait for the next shiny Android table, right on schedule.

tiger4062 wrote:Nice unit. Nice price. Can anyone suggest a good, reasonably priced portfolio type cover for it?

I bought one and am this one and I like it

http://www.amazon.com/CaseCrown-Bold-Standby-Motorola-Model/dp/B004WKT2W6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320918663&sr=8-2

Considering this tablet is REFURBISHED, Can anyone tell me what would be the condition of this tablet? Will it be used with scratches or hanging problem etc.

About Flash:

Yes, Flash mobile is halting production. However, for all intents and purposes, it was fairly useless on mobile platform. This does not mean that flash is gone on mobile at all though. Adobe Air is used all over the place, and is a form of packaging flash. This is going to continue development.

There really is little to be lost from losing development of the Flash player. Most of the time all I got out of it was banner ads. Adobe Air however is all over the place, and anyone developing flash for mobile is most likely already using Air.

I've been carrying this one all over Afghanistan, and it is great. Very rugged, been dropped about a half-dozen times between me and my 3 year old and no damage. Plays videos at a higher compression rate than the IPAD, plus I don't need ITUNES to load my music. SD allows me to store doc. Use the video camera and its very good. Camera is decent. Wife has IPAD2 and she loves it. Kids will play with which ever is availble, but they do prefer IPAD.

Does the XOOM have to be synced with a PC?

DaHarder wrote:The Kindle Fire is more of an eReader with media consumption features, and will be completely locked into Amazon services ONLY. read: Not the official Android App Store.

The Xoom, and all other true Android tablets have no such restrictions, in addition to having considerably more storage capacity (the Xoom's is expandable to 64gb vs the Fire's non-exspandable 8 gb) and several other features that the Fire can/will never have/support e.g cameras, video conferencing et al.

Kindle Fire will be a Amazon Based E-reader out of the box, but once rooted will prove to be a great device. The Amazon market may prove to have good APPS, we shall see.

What is one off the reasons (other than price) that people stay away from the IPAD? Flash. Adobe will release Adobe Flash 11 and then cease Flash and work on Adobe AIR which will be the new flash. Apple has already agreed to allow Adobe AIR in its APP Store, so the IPAD will finally be workable.

The pricing is getting better every time, but I'm holding out for a 4G or 4G upgradable model for $250.

Come on Woot... You can DO it!

DaZoneRanger wrote:Actually, WebOS hasn't been abandoned at all. HP is still working on updates for it and they're planning on selling or licensing the platform. It's a great OS.

Really? So you haven't experienced any audio or accelerometer problems after the latest webOS update? The support may be there but it's typical HP garbage.

have the Xoom,love it,had many other tablets,this one rules,got from circuit city refur $389. its lots of fun,well built,long battery life,great screen,mines loaded with games,movies,and i love those live wallpapers,cool,

I sold my G-tablet, and got a Xoom from woot! two months ago for $379. I couldn't be happier with the decision.

The Xoom is what everybody is trying to make the G-tablet into, but the G-tablet will always fall short.

$100 cheaper than Amazon, $57 cheaper than newegg.com... I think I need one of these!

zeke7 wrote:I saw a brand new one of these for about $345 over at daily steals dot com just last week!

Yep, I saw it too. Woot is starting to get greedy in my opinion. Good example was the woot-off HP TouchPad.

macmic6 wrote:I bought one the last time WOOT offered them refurbished. I love this tablet.
I have friends who have iPads that now wish they had this. It supports flash and supports a 32 GB micro SD card. You still have to attach it to the computer to install onto the SD card, but I have 64 GB total for a really low price. I can use most of the apps at the amazon store and droid maket, so I have a kindle reader and can watch movies on Netflix (had to do a little research to find the version that works on this but not a big problem). It has that a great screen. I did add Skinomi screen protector which takes care of the fingerprint problem on the screen. You can't even see fingerprints. Got a leather case and the Bluetooth keyboard on eBay. It allows me to stay connected anywhere I go. I have a Sprint EVO 4G with hot spot so no need for 3G in this. I am sooooooo happy!!

I'm reading that Flash is being abandoned due to HTML5.

xninjagrrl wrote:The support may be there but it's typical HP garbage.

Have you actually seen and used it, or are you just down on HP in general?

Accelerator wrote:I bought the AYL High Quality Slim Leather Case Folio from Amazon. It is a great case that allows you to prop the tablet at different angles for easy viewing.
I paid $22.99 for my case. It's a great deal for a very nice quality leather case.

I have to second Accelerator's recommendation for the AYL Slim Leather Case.

The materials and craftsmanship are top notch, and it adds very little bulk to the overall profile. It has a cut out so you can have it plugged in while closed... something sorely lacking on many cases.

At the price, you can hardly beat it.

tiger4062 wrote:Nice unit. Nice price. Can anyone suggest a good, reasonably priced portfolio type cover for it?

I bought this cover a couple of months ago...hands down the best one I've touched...short money for the quality. Can't recommend it highly enough.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054U3ZW6/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details

nitkot wrote:Considering this tablet is REFURBISHED, Can anyone tell me what would be the condition of this tablet? Will it be used with scratches or hanging problem etc.

Perhaps yes. Others will be returns by people who really wanted an iPad and almost never used it.

Princesspooh wrote:I have to second Accelerator's recommendation for the AYL Slim Leather Case.

The materials and craftsmanship are top notch, and it adds very little bulk to the overall profile. It has a cut out so you can have it plugged in while closed... something sorely lacking on many cases.

At the price, you can hardly beat it.

Yep...third.

tkebidder wrote:Adobe said today they are going to stop making updates of flash player, and flash player ALL TOGETHER...so not sure what they will do to this other then kill it

Seriously - flash will still be supported by Adobe but not further developed. They will fix security flaws, provide patches, etc...just not work on new development

Flash currently works great on my Samsung Tab 10.1 so I'm not worried about this news.

I'm disappointed but satisfied with the current version of Flash that it'll get me by just fine until all of today's Flash sites are gone (a long time away).

Yeah yeah, another "I got this when it was on woot! before" post.

But seriously, I love my Xoom. If you are interested in owning a tablet at all, you really can't go wrong here.

Plus it's supposed to be getting the Ice Cream Sandwich update in the future, so there's that.

LeoBiker67 wrote:Does the XOOM have to be synced with a PC?

No it doesnt.

nitkot wrote:Considering this tablet is REFURBISHED, Can anyone tell me what would be the condition of this tablet? Will it be used with scratches or hanging problem etc.

I got this a few weeks ago here at Woot. Mine was PERFECT, pristine, and untouched. All the wrapping was present, the factory cover was on the screen, and it clearly had never been touched.

Helenr1966 wrote:I got this a few weeks ago here at Woot. Mine was PERFECT, pristine, and untouched. All the wrapping was present, the factory cover was on the screen, and it clearly had never been touched.

The only thing on mine that distinguishes it from a non-refurb model is a little "refurbished by motorola" badge on the back. Otherwise, would never be-able to tell.

Refurbs aren't always broken when they come in - it might be as simple as a soccermom returning it because she really wanted an iPad.

Day #2 of loser tablets. At least this one is finally being sold at a realistic price.

About eight months ago I walked into Verizon with the intent of purchasing this baby. They had it on display next to the original iPad (which they were clearing out for $399 for 32gb) and the iPad2. I spent a longgg time playing on all three. My verdict... the iPad 2 was by far the best, the iPad 1 came in second, and the Xoom was third. It was also the most expensive by far!!

I walked out with the original iPad at $399.

Would I still purchase it over the Xoom if the Xoom was being sold for $329.99?? It all depends. If Motorola has NOT worked-out the numerous kinks and bugs that the Xoom initially had at it's launch, I would still buy the old iPad over it. But, if the frustrating problems have been overcome, then it might be a contender at the Woot price.

But hey... this thing is refurbished!!! We're still not comparing apples to apples here!!