I would like to see the stocking to put this into.

I got tired just reading the description.

No matter what you get, make sure it is something you enjoy using. Get a trial membership to a gym for a month or so and check out the different machines. Some folks prefer treadmills, some bikes, some ellipticals, some weight machines. You will not know until you try them.

I did not know that until I spent boo-coo bucks on a treadmill that I later gave away to make room for the elliptical I enjoyed so much I climbed on it five days per week (and dropped about 30 pounds in a few months). As it turns out, I hate treadmills, so this would not be a good deal at any price. However, someone else may a dream come true.

I repeat: No matter what you get, make sure it is something you enjoy using. Otherwise, you are just wasting your money.


DF

SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT...LOOK

All the info online for a Smooth 5.65 shows an image of one that has the larger display area and surround that is more upright and a machine that has thicker, stronger main support arms.

If you look at Smooth's site now it shows a 5.65i, this is the only model that includes and i in it. What is this all about?

This model is the only one that looks smaller and flimsier than the others.

When I was looking at their website the last time I was buying a treadmill all their models looked similar, I know they all had the larger more vertical displays than this flat horizontal display on the 5.65i

Maybe it is just me, but seems to not add up for some reason.

Anyone else notice this?

For what it's worth, the ExerciseEquipmentExpert.com website rates this specific treadmill as their "Best Treadmill Under $1000"

MegaTom wrote:If you plan on giving this to your wife for Christmas, remember to unload/hide any fire arms, and identify any objects in your house that could be easily thrown or used as bludgeons.

Play it safe and buy her a Dyson vacuum, she'll love it.

pencilneck wrote:Christmas shopping for the wife now done. It was easy shopping for her... she called my damn phone 5 times this morning trying to get in touch with me to let me know THIS is the treadmill she was thinking about getting. Woot just saved us a few hundred bucks on our new clothing rack. Rock on Woot!

Hey MegaTom! You should call your wife and ask her what she thinks. Apparently this item seems to be a hit with the ladies today. ;)

TheFaz wrote:Buy a good pair of running shoes and GO OUTSIDE!

Can you suggest a good pair of knee-high snow-melting ones for a Chicago winter? Kisses and TIA!

Thread synopsis: You're fat, America!

Drinking Frog makes a very good comment. Nothing is a good bargain if you don't use it, and drying racks are cheaper.
You just have to experiment and find what works for you. I was a serious distance runner for nearly 25 years, running over 31,000 miles, finishing in the top tier of marathons and shorter races. I was given a nice treadmill, a tier above this one, but I rarely used it, less than a hundred miles. I didn't much like running indoors at all, and would only do so when forced by weather, which even in midwestern states doesn't happen all that often.
My knees eventually gave out, with arthritis running, like most families, in mine. During my recovery from double knee replacement, I discovered that I loved, absolutely, the recumbent bicycle. I bought a Schwinnn 202, and have put over 20,000 (fantasy) miles on it. I ride 20 miles five days a week, pushing my heart rate up to about 150.
Now, it might be an elliptical, a treadmill, a bike or a recumbent, but those of you who must or need to exercise, check out the options before making a purchase. See if a gym near you has a trial and use it. Maybe the gym and its options are right for you, and maybe you will fall in love, so to speak, with some other machine, but you owe it to yourself to exercise your body.
BTW, I'm 65 years old, 6 feet tall, weigh 168 pounds and my heart beats about 45 times a minute when I'm relaxing.

moxxee wrote:Does the running belt require lubrication or is it self-lubricating?

It has to be lubricated periodically, but it doesn't sound like a big deal to do it.

We got on from Smooth's website a couple of months ago after several weeks of deliberating what brand/model to get. We paid $949, so this is a great price. The unit seems to be well made. What little assembly was required was easy to do.

A few thoughts:

1) I don't have a ton of experience with treadmills, but while this may not be especially loud compared to others, it is a bit noisier than I expected

2) we spent extra money for the freight company to bring the box inside. It is REALLY heavy. I don't know if you have that option here. It may be that when the freight company calls you, you can arrange that but I don't know. If you can, expect to pay an extra 100 bucks or so to put it in the room or $50 to your door. Basic shipping will put it at the curb. (all based on buying from Smooth mind you)

3) this thing is big and heavy, and while it does have wheels, dont go in thinking you are going to roll it in and out of position every time you want to use it...I think you will be disappointed.

Wonder if my bronze medal marathon winning hamster with ball would benefit from training on this treadmill?

TheFaz wrote:Buy a good pair of running shoes and GO OUTSIDE!

Good idea but it dosen't work! If you live on the east coast, there are too many days when it rains, snows, it's too windy, too hot or too cold for walking. These problems are avoided with a treadmill. So you are left with no convenient excuses. The only thing you can do is walk or run and get healthy.

stevef2222 wrote:save your money and just walk...it's free and works

But -- multitasking! I converted my treadmill into a treadputer and can work (and woot!) while I walk.

ClaudeCat

Sent from my iPlod 3.0 MPH

Users should be self-lubricated to enhance walker's high when they hit the wall, figuratively.

hugehead83 wrote:Great cat toy as well:

Basic cat strategy:

1. If it moves, slap it.

2. If it doesn't move, slap it and see if you can get it to move.

3. If anyone unexpectedly enters your personal space, slap them.

4. If it runs, chase it.

zaidwise wrote:This is why you want both, and you want to switch major usages. Stationary-fitness is the fine art of confusing your body enough to get maximum results from a minimum of s.w.a.g.

That's why I run around Quakelive, it confuses the hell out of my body into building all kinds of muscles and bones and what not!

acanarelli wrote:Good idea but it dosen't work! If you live on the east coast, there are too many days when it rains, snows, it's too windy, too hot or too cold for walking. These problems are avoided with a treadmill. So you are left with no convenient excuses. The only thing you can do is walk or run and get healthy.

Oh, you will find plenty excuses still

eatingjuice wrote:$800 for a treadmill? I'd rather spend $150 on good shoes and then... you know. Run.

Yeah, that's great if you live in San Diego. For those of us subject to actual *weather* like here in the Northeast, where summer can be a humid 90F or a searing 0F, a treadmill is a nice thing. I have had three over the past 15 years. I beat the hell out of a Pro-Form 585TL and it took it (the incline broke after a decade). I then had a NordicTrack, which model escaps me, and I literally broke it in half (the frame bent terribly). I now have some other ICON fitness sub-brand that I cannot think of at the moment. The deck split in half after a year. I got a new deck under warranty and reinforced it with two pieces of angled aluminum, bolted into the deck on the underside. A company out there sells a kit for $50 that includes such components. My cost was about $10. I have been punishing it for a year now since the fix and everything seems fine.

The 585TL was the best. Not fancy - not expensive - cheap plastic - but I just abused the living s**t out of it and it answered the bell every time.

Did anyone ever figure out whether Woot is an authorized seller for the purposes of the warranty?

CowboyDann wrote:How is this on the joints? I don't have the money for this right now but I was looking into bikes because I don't want to destroy my knees running.

I have to second the elliptical suggestion.

Smooth Fitness has authorized Woot to sell this treadmill. The warranty will be valid to all original purchases of this product from Woot. *May not be valid if resold

baslanian wrote:Smooth Fitness has authorized Woot to sell this treadmill. The warranty will be valid to all original purchases of this product from Woot. *May not be valid if resold

Thanks!

sdc100 wrote:No, that's not true -- because you can't significantly increase resistance in running so improvement quickly plateaus. A colleague of mine actually did a formal study on this. While running will maintain bone density to a good extent, you cannot increase resistance in a controlled manner. Like the increase in muscle mass, increase in bone density requires progressively increasing resistance.

Actually you can if you really wanted to. Increase incline. But the thing is, when running it usually doesn't matter. There's a reason no one wears weights when running - you don't need the added resistance. Running by itself is completely fine.

And running is actually one of the worst forms of exercise, when you factor in goal efficiency, convenience and risk of injury. If you don't have bad knees now, you're increasing your risk if you run. SImply put, the joints of the knees have not evolved to keep pace with the our increased lifespans. The impact of running wears out the surfaces (articular cartilage). If you only live to 50, it won't be a factor. But if you expect to live to 80, the years of running may make a difference.

And here is where you're completely wrong. These are all common myths made by non-runners to justify why they don't run, none of them are true. In "goal efficiency" running is one of the most efficient forms of exercise, calorie burn, and building aerobic fitness. I convenience, I really find it hard to believe you actually think it isn't convenient. All you need is a pair of running shoes to go running. That's it. You can't get more convenient than that.

Finally, as for risk of injury, it's just not true that running is bad for your knees. IMPROPER running is bad for your knees/joints. PROPER running is not detrimental or actually HELPFUL for your joints. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1948208,00.html

Is this capable of Euro-training a la Terry Crews?

But if you're concerned about your knees, definitely get an elliptical over this. If it's not an existing injury (like ACL tear, etc.) there is also the possibility that your quads are weaker than they should be as stronger quads stabilize the knee area. Squats are your friend.

Before you get on this treadmill and press the "ON" button, MAKE SURE you confirm that it also has an "OFF" button.

Before buying, check out your local Craigslist. I was able to find an $1100 Nordictrack with 90 miles on it (3 years old) for $250.

The majority of treadmills in America are oversized laundry hangers. (Not so coincidentally, so are the majority of Americans, but that's besides the point.)

If you are in the market for a treadmill, first look for a slightly used one. They will hang laundry just as well as a shiny new one.

And with all the money you save just think of how many Buy'N'Large shakes you can buy.

Roostalee wrote:Now if they can only make a treadmill that actually takes you places.

Just throw a VirtuaBoy on and pretend you're taking a jog as Tron and mess those red dudes up!

I would point out that while several people have commented that the weight limit at 300lbs seems a bit low, if you are 300 lbs most likely you need to reign the diet in before you're ready to do a lot of exercise anyway. I was 250+ and could run, but I'm able to stick with it so much more now that I am around 190. I don't imagine I'd be able to stick with it for even a half hour at a time if I were 300lbs (at 6'0"). Smaller portions and more frequent eating breaks got me to where it made sense to do much running.

Bottom line, (most likely) if you just buy a treadmill to motivate yourself to get in shape, you're paddling upstream if you're trying to push over 300 lbs to run for an hour, (unless you're 6'8", in which case you're already used to having to buy everything in a larger size).

CinciTech wrote:I would point out that while several people have commented that the weight limit at 300lbs seems a bit low, if you are 300 lbs most likely you need to reign the diet in before you're ready to do a lot of exercise anyway. I was 250+ and could run, but I'm able to stick with it so much more now that I am around 190. I don't imagine I'd be able to stick with it for even a half hour at a time if I were 300lbs (at 6'0"). Smaller portions and more frequent eating breaks got me to where it made sense to do much running.

Bottom line, (most likely) if you just buy a treadmill to motivate yourself to get in shape, you're paddling upstream if you're trying to push over 300 lbs to run for an hour, (unless you're 6'8", in which case you're already used to having to buy everything in a larger size).

Well said. Remember, losing weight is 80-90% diet.

Well, for most of us anyway. If you are an 18 year old male you can pretty much sneeze and lose 5 pounds.

We are wooters.
We shop online.
We don't even stand up and walk around to consume.
Why on earth would we buy a treadmill?

Wait, does it have an tablet PC mounted to it so we can woot while we jog?

No?

Ok, my question stands: why would we want to buy a treadmill?

You guys should offer a flex pay option like on HSN - pay it off in 3 chunks. I'd be all over this if it werern't Xmas

For 5 dollar shipping thats a pretty awesome deal!

One bit of home treadmill maintnenance advice: The electronics under the motor cover atract dust bunnies like crazy. The dust bunnies will short out the motor control board if not vacuumed out regularly, like every 2 - 3 months. On my last treadmill the motor control board was half the price of a new treadmill. I learned the hard way.

ericmlaj7 wrote:If you buy one for your wife, will she think she's fat?

God, I hope so.

TheFaz wrote:Buy a good pair of running shoes and GO OUTSIDE!

Not a very good option when it's icy out or 20 below. Some of us live in places with harsh winters.

The price is quite good. The problem is not enough people are that fitness prone that they want an $800 cost, worth more treadmill in their home.

If someone is creating their own home gym, or uses a treadmill when the weather is poor then this is ideal. The upcoming weather isn't going to give those that walk or run much time outdoors between cold weather, snow, rain or sleet that can happen thruout the winter and early spring.

kneeman wrote:SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT...LOOK

All the info online for a Smooth 5.65 shows an image of one that has the larger display area and surround that is more upright and a machine that has thicker, stronger main support arms.

If you look at Smooth's site now it shows a 5.65i, this is the only model that includes and i in it. What is this all about?

This model is the only one that looks smaller and flimsier than the others.

When I was looking at their website the last time I was buying a treadmill all their models looked similar, I know they all had the larger more vertical displays than this flat horizontal display on the 5.65i

Maybe it is just me, but seems to not add up for some reason.

Anyone else notice this?

Can't say I have.

I have a smooth fitness elliptical and I use it every day before I lift weights and after. I want to add an observation about "impact".

At the ripe old age of 30, I had a stroke. Just bad luck. it was either that or be eaten by a shark, I guess. For rehab purposes, I actually WANTED the impact, to combat the atrophy in muscle and bone density, and to help with restoring balance.

I think quite a few people are of the impression that you need to get on one of these and go full-bore for hours, and tear your knees or ankles up. In reality, any time you elevate your heart rate, you are doing a cardio workout. It's totally cool to hop on, warm up for a few minute (one song is a good rule of thumb) then do interval stuff...go balls out for a minute and then an easy pace for 2. Just repeat that four or five times--maybe 15 minutes or so-- and then cool down (again, a song worth of a nice, pleasurable pace). You don't have to run marathons, and treadmills are far and away better than running on straight concrete, which DID make things hurt for me.

Please disregard my complaint about $5 shipping on a bag o' crap...I just made it back in SPADES on this big thing!!!

its nice and all but where is the hard core deals?