LEM-


quality posts: 146 Private Messages LEM-

Well, it hasn't been a week since Sacks were up for sale, but tracking by reference is now live for many (most) of us. So it's time to once again use a top of the page opportunity and post the primer for all who wants to be in the know!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


FedEx SmartPost primer for newcomers, and a reminder for the rest of Wooters (v. 1.6)

1. Before the tracking information shows up: Sometimes Woot is not e-mailing the tracking numbers until a few days after the packages are shipped. You can try and get the number by reference, by going to https://www.fedex.com/AltRefTracking?cntry_code=us and entering these three things: Your Woot order number goes to reference numbers box, select United States in destination country drop down, and Your Zip Code in a respective box. It's important to get all three pieces. Keep refreshing it, and if you're lucky, the tracking number will pop-up before the official e-mail comes. It doesn't ALWAYS work, but there's a good chance. Note, that if you've made multiple orders from Woot, you can enter several order numbers into the reference box, one per line.

1.1 A small tracking by reference tip: At first when you enter the tracking information your tracking page will be loaded by POST request. That means all data you entered is sent to server through internal fields. Each time you refresh you'd have to agree to repeat the POST operation, and you can't bookmark or transfer the link to another computer/smartphone/etc. However - if you press a purple RESUBMIT button below your results, it will change the request to GET, so that all information you entered will show up in a URL and you can now F5 it as many times as you want without further steps, make bookmarks or e-mail the link to self (or others).

1.2 If your weight shows as 1lb, it is most likely a placeholder, which will be replaced by more accurate weight once the package actually starts moving (or reaches a sorting station - see below). The dimensions will probably show as NA/NA/NA on those placeholder packages. Some people have reported packages showing as 1lb all the way until delivery, but turned out to be anything but, though there's always a slight chance that your package actually is a 1 pounder. So you never know.

1.3 To make it even more frustrating - the actual fact that you can track by reference, but if it shows as a 1lb with status Shipment information sent to FedEx does not yet mean the package actually shipped or even exists. All it means - a label which will eventually be attached to your package has been printed. It may be a few days before your beloved box will actually hit the road. Patience is the key here!

1.4 So how do we know for sure that BоC's are out? Keep looking through this thread, and you may spot a post by a Woot staff member (identified as such by a small icon next to their name), stating that all packages are shipped. Sometimes it will take FedEx a while before they show up or update, but once it's said here on the forum, you can be sure that they are out! Also keep an eye open for other staff members posts announcing possible shipping delays or otherwise!

1.5 Some wooters report being able to track, but not me! Am I screwed? No, you are not. The tracking numbers don't get into the system all at once. The track by reference starts working when FedEx receives your package info from Woot. They send them in batches, and if someone has a reference hit, does not mean everyone gets it at the same time. Sometimes it's days between batches are sent, and sometimes electronic info on some or all packages is not sent at all, which means not trackable by reference until it arrives (even if trackable by actual tracking number received from Woot). The actual tracking information (if you have tracking e-mail sent to you or it shows up on your order page) gets updated as the package is actually scanned at FedEx location. Provided that Woot ships them by truckload, it may not be instant at all, nor they will appear all at once. Sometimes it's not 'til the next day when you see it live, even if there are others that got scanned early in the game. Remember, if a staff member said that all packages are out - they are. It may take some time for them to go live, a day or two between first reported trackable package until the last one shows up in a system is not unusual...

2. To get the dimensions you need to create My FedEx account (no charge, and you don't have to give them cc number if you don't want to): http://my.fedex.com/ and make sure to switch to new or advanced version. Enter your tracking number, and the dimensions will pop...

2.1 Another way to get dimensions: If you have problems with My FedEx site, or just to make things easier - you can also download a very convenient FedEx Desktop application. It uses the same log-in credentials as your My FedEx account (you'd still need to have one), and tracks the same packages right from your desktop, without the browser.

3. Don't get too excited. For the first few days most people will probably have some sort of cubed dimensions. This is because in the beginning the dimensions are not real. They are guesstimated by FedEx based on weight (which may or may not be accurate). Here's the famous formula for you to check:

SIDE = ( 330 * WEIGHT ) ^ (1/3)
(side in inches, weight in lbs)

If it matches your dimensions to a few tenths of an inch - you know they are not real. That's for smaller packages. Those over 15lbs would always have the "dimensions" of a 15lbs package (or was it 16)... Again not real...

4. Once your package passed a sorting station - the updated weight and real dimensions may show up. Usually that's the first or second stop it makes after Dallas. In my case (North-East) in either Martinsburg, WV or at Kansas City, KS (I am yet to understand the logic SmartPost uses in sending the packages one route or the other), for many others it's New Berlin, WI or another major SmartPost hub. In some cases actual weighting/measuring may not take place even at the SECOND hub... or ever...

5. USPS Handoff: Once the package is reported to have passed a city near you - start tracking it on http://www.usps.com/, because that's who's delivering it to your door, and once the package is handed over by FedEx, they will have more up to date information. Do make sure that you track by actual tracking number (it will show up if you got a hit with reference tracking), because USPS does not track by reference. A thing to note - when handed over to USPS, FedEx always says a standard "allow 2-3 for business days for delivery". This is a standard message, and if your USPS facility is efficient enough, you may get it delivered as soon as the day of handoff (if it happened early enough).

5.1. USPS is not delivering for a few days after supposed handoff. Compliments go to the budget cuts and staff shortage at your local post office, as per a post by snaped, who claims to know the situation first hand: the pallets of SmartPost packages are handled at the lowest priority, after all other mail has been processed. So if your post office is a bit short on staff or overwhelmed with other mail (holiday seasons especially) it may well sit unsorted for a few days, after which their status is raised to priority and they finally get sorted and delivered. In my personal experience, I've seen them delivered the same day or as much as a full week late (that happened with non-woot package I was expecting around Christmas).

Good luck to all waiting for their hauls, and let the Woot Gods bless you with some amazing crаps!

maddmike71


quality posts: 2 Private Messages maddmike71

I'm sure I can't be alone in this thought.

I would much rather get a bunch of really useless interesting crap than I would the generic one.

Please woot gods give me something interesting.

Will work for Barrels of Crud

Un0fficial


quality posts: 12 Private Messages Un0fficial

Got my tracking using the Reference number. I love that method :3

47 total woots including (Not all listed)
12/1/2010, 4/1/2011, 7/12/2011, 9/14/2011, 12/6/2011, 12/25/2011, 3/22/2012, 4/24/2012, 5/22/2012, 6/26/2012, 7/12/2012(5x) Bunch of Changelings
7/12/09 Woot-Off Lights
5/11/11 Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset

stryper2000


quality posts: 3 Private Messages stryper2000

got my Track by reference, but still at the Placeholder point for now

jccdlc


quality posts: 1 Private Messages jccdlc

You da man...Great information.

marajad3


quality posts: 3 Private Messages marajad3

Got my placeholder info.

I foresee a day with limited work productivity whilst I refresh my email and the fedex page hoping for actual data.

Actually I foresee several of those as well as an illness that may send me home from work early on a date to be indicated by USPS

sheetz


quality posts: 0 Private Messages sheetz

I guess this is where we will be discussing our craps this time around?

Track by ref is live for my wife's and mine, but no estimated delivery date yet and only placeholders.

I got in on the crap before the 503s started and couldn't believe how easy it was. My confirmation came at 12:01, before my wife saw the laptop even though we were both refreshing like mad. My wife was not so lucky, by the time she got to the bag the 503s had started. After trying for a few minutes, she gave up and we went back to Rock Band. After a few songs I grabbed her laptop to give it one more shot as it wasn't sold out yet. Made it through. This is the first crap she has got in a long time, so she is super excited (even if I did the ordering).

jbutenhoff


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jbutenhoff

One quick bit about teh Smartpost...

They do deliver on Saturdays! My last Burgandy Olfactory Center a few rounds ago showed up on a lovely Saturday afternoon

rotflol


quality posts: 6 Private Messages rotflol
dvsmith wrote:stinger72 prefers to be known as an "Electronic American." He's seen things you people wouldn't believe…



Yeah that's who it was! I went back through my purchases but I couldn't find the forum with the drama because there wasn't one for the actual purchase, just like this time. They only had one BOC before it was sold out then you had to click a link in the description to actually find the Santa bag, so people were grumpy about that and he took the wrath.

I remember that one so clearly because I was lucky to get it. I got the message that I would only get the purchase if someone else's order failed. Sorry to whoever put in their security code in wrong.

[hello]

TheFaz


quality posts: 6 Private Messages TheFaz
bardic wrote:I think jbutenhoff deserves a quality post for that one. That made my day.



I agree it's funny. However it's an old joke.

jprins


quality posts: 1 Private Messages jprins
jbutenhoff wrote:One quick bit about teh Smartpost...

They do deliver on Saturdays! My last Burgandy Olfactory Center a few rounds ago showed up on a lovely Saturday afternoon



Smartpost is delivered to your door by USPS, so they deliver any day USPS delivers.

troyal82


quality posts: 0 Private Messages troyal82

Got my tracking number using the info above. Thanks!

Still shows 1lb. Lets see if that changes lol

PocketBrain


quality posts: 38 Private Messages PocketBrain

Got the tracking by reference. They're going out fast this time! Info sent, no package yet. Hopefully will get placeholder dimensions by tomorrow.


Woot Stats
Woots/Qty total: 420 duuude
Notable woot events:
  • Sonic Trivia Quiz 1 runner-up. I got Bupkus!
  • Nov. 17 '06: Bought out Kensington PocketMouse Wireless USB Mouse
Barrels of Cheddar obtained:
  • 11/17/06: 1st
  • 12/25/07, 2nd
  • 7/12/08 3rd (1st "want three.")
  • 12/25/08 4th
  • 05/15/09 5th
  • 9/25/09 6th
  • 2/25/10 7TH
  • 4/28/10 8th
  • 7/12/10 9th (BBOC wootlites)
  • 8/20/10 10th
  • 9/22/10 11th
  • 9/14/11 12th
  • 12/25/11 13th
  • 3/22/12 14th

melissah12


quality posts: 1 Private Messages melissah12

I received my placeholder tracking info. This is my second incredible bag. I was so excited to get in this time around. The hubby failed to get me anything for Christmas, so this is my Christmas present to me! Hopefully I get something incredible. Although, my Christmas present from Woot will be better than the Christmas present from the hubby, no matter what it is. I know I will get at least one bag and three craps, much better than nothing, lol!

troyal82


quality posts: 0 Private Messages troyal82

Well your hubby certainly failed this year...what gives?! LOL

melissah12


quality posts: 1 Private Messages melissah12
troyal82 wrote:Well your hubby certainly failed this year...what gives?! LOL



Oh, he failed big time this year, and I'm sure it will be quite a while before I let him forget it! Hopefully Woot loves me...

jml879


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jml879

Track by refernce is up for me, got the placeholder!

szuccon1


quality posts: 2 Private Messages szuccon1
melissah12 wrote:Oh, he failed big time this year, and I'm sure it will be quite a while before I let him forget it! Hopefully Woot loves me...



Woot doesn't love you. Proof: they are going to send you some left over crap they have sitting around. and if you think that's love, then you might need help.

hackman2007


quality posts: 14 Private Messages hackman2007

Can't wait until we actually see some movement on these Burgandy Olfactory Center#39;s.

I received my placeholder as well.

melissah12


quality posts: 1 Private Messages melissah12
szuccon1 wrote:Woot doesn't love you. Proof: they are going to send you some left over crap they have sitting around. and if you think that's love, then you might need help.



My psychiatrist says there is no help for me. I look forward to the Woot love I am about to receive no matter how crappy.

editorkid


quality posts: 83 Private Messages editorkid

Saw this on QuickMeme's "First World Problems" meme --

troyal82


quality posts: 0 Private Messages troyal82

My last Burgandy Olfactory Center I actually received a tripod LED flashlight that gets used often :D

rwilson1267


quality posts: 1 Private Messages rwilson1267

My track by reference came up this a.m., but like a dummy I forgot to write down tracking number. Went back in and now no track by reference found. Anyone else have any issues?

bbmaier


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bbmaier
rwilson1267 wrote:My track by reference came up this a.m., but like a dummy I forgot to write down tracking number. Went back in and now no track by reference found. Anyone else have any issues?



It's still working for me.
Here's the link for 'Track by Reference': https://www.fedex.com/AltRefTracking?cntry_code=us

If you lose it -- go to the main page and click the dropdown labeled 'Track'.

cation


quality posts: 0 Private Messages cation

Add me to the tracking reference and a 1lb placeholder.

12-25-11 Santa's Sack of Crap
12-16-09 Eargrips behind the the head fleece earwarmer 2 pack x 2

crktfrog


quality posts: 8 Private Messages crktfrog

Got my TBR and placeholder too! Here we go!

ThatPoshGirl


quality posts: 31 Private Messages ThatPoshGirl

Well, my size changed to 0.6 lbs.


PS. Never mind, I think that's my shirt.woot

barkwoot


quality posts: 2 Private Messages barkwoot

Fedex has updated my shipping to 5.9lbs with an ETA of 1/4/12!

ThatPoshGirl


quality posts: 31 Private Messages ThatPoshGirl

I'm also at 5.9 lbs. Estimated delivery of 1/5.

LEM-


quality posts: 146 Private Messages LEM-

The sacks are on a move!

Mine: 5.6lbs @ 16 x 12.2 x 10.8
Wife's: 6.6lbs @ 16 x 12.2 x 10.6

Both due January 6 in New York!

Looks like my other half is getting somewhat denser crap than I do - it's just a bit smaller, but a whole pound heavier!



bolashoof


quality posts: 2 Private Messages bolashoof

Got my update email from FedEx:

5.6 lbs
16" x 12.5" x 10.6"

Estimated delivery 12/31.

Cerie


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Cerie

5.6 lbs with a estimated delivery date of
Jan 6th.

I'm very excited to receive my first
bagel of carp.

And I don't care what it is, as long as it's healthy.

RealtorKen


quality posts: 1 Private Messages RealtorKen

Well mine is shipped at 5.6lbs and my wife is still at a 1 lb placeholder.

Thank you last minute wrapping! We were both up and about at 1am. Oh and thank you woot!

It's a woot thing you wouldn't understand!

OldMatador


quality posts: 12 Private Messages OldMatador

I have a 5.7 pounder, my friend has a 5.4 pounder. Due on January 6th. We'll see how it goes.

akane17


quality posts: 0 Private Messages akane17
OldMatador wrote:I have a 5.7 pounder, my friend has a 5.4 pounder. Due on January 6th. We'll see how it goes.



6.2 pounds, expected Jan 5th.

andrewkl


quality posts: 13 Private Messages andrewkl

6.1 pounds, arriving in NJ on 1/6/12... That means 1/5 more than likely, given past deliveries... My wife still has a 1 pound placeholder.

Just really damn lucky: Random Crap: 2/15/08, 2/19/09, 12/25/09, 4/1/10, 12/1/10, 12/25/10, 4/1/11, 5/11/11, 9/14/11, 10/12/11, 12/25/11

sthiede


quality posts: 0 Private Messages sthiede

boo .. was hoping for more randomness not seeing much span in wieghts

andrewkl


quality posts: 13 Private Messages andrewkl
sthiede wrote:boo .. not seeing much span in wieghts



...which likely means another cookie-cutter bag... Nothing random about them.. just crap. After the first recipient posts their haul, pretty much all the other 2477 will be identical, except for some minor attribute.

Just really damn lucky: Random Crap: 2/15/08, 2/19/09, 12/25/09, 4/1/10, 12/1/10, 12/25/10, 4/1/11, 5/11/11, 9/14/11, 10/12/11, 12/25/11

jml879


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jml879

To anyone who complains about this crap being generic, unspectacular, not big, etc. : I got the last Burgandy Olfactory Center and got standard crap of 2.x lbs. Looks like this time the standard is 5.x lbs is double that, so by weight, you are getting TWICE the CRAP for the same price as before!!!!

I'm grateful for whatever the Woot Santa/ Woot Gods (the true reason for the Woot season you know!) send my way!

Good luck to everyone and happy holidays!

kbmeow


quality posts: 0 Private Messages kbmeow
jml879 wrote:To anyone who complains about this crap being generic, unspectacular, not big, etc. : I got the last Burgandy Olfactory Center and got standard crap of 2.x lbs. Looks like this time the standard is 5.x lbs is double that, so by weight, you are getting TWICE the CRAP for the same price as before!!!!

I'm grateful for whatever the Woot Santa/ Woot Gods (the true reason for the Woot season you know!) send my way!

Good luck to everyone and happy holidays!



Mine is 5.9 and should arrive 1/6 unfortunately I will be in Europe the 1-15 and then there is no mail on the 16th so sometime on the 17th I shall get me crap . It will give me something to look forward too besides the bills