rgcombs


quality posts: 2 Private Messages rgcombs

I have a refurbished 32PFL3505D (this is 32PFL3506D) in my bedroom. There seems to be little difference (I don't think I have what they're calling Setup Assistant). I'm very pleased with it.

I'm feeding it the secondary TV output from my Dish ViP711, which is only 480p (not HD), and the Philips does a good job of upscaling it. When I use the over-the-air tuner, I get excellent HD picture quality.

I've had it about 8 months, and have no complaints. The remote is OK, but I primarily use my second Dish remote anyway.

If you're looking for a good bedroom or other secondary use TV, this one will most likely make you very happy. I doubt if you can do better for anywhere near the price.

keithshoe


quality posts: 2 Private Messages keithshoe

I picked up a off brand from Amazon for 250.00 and brand new.

It has good reviews and a good picture.

FWIW

SanDisk Sansa e250 2GB Media Player
Jumbo Junkie Universal Jumbo Remote Control – 2 Pack
3M Filtrete Air Purifier
Nike Sport Kit Carrying Case for MP3 Players – 2 Pack
Pioneer 1080p Upconverting DVD Player with HDMI output

susiewoots


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john27 wrote:Well it's actually 60hz, not 60mhz.

It refers to how fast the screen changes the image, in this case, 60 times per second. That's faster than any of your old tube TV's, and is plenty fast enough for the majority of the content you'll be watching, as the majority of it is natively below 60hz anyway (often 24hz).

Higher refresh rates do offer an advantage, for example it's needed for 3D content, and when the content being displayed allows it (or, as is the case most of the time, the TV's electronics upsample the content), it can have a smoother image. But don't buy into this idea that 60hz is somehow a low quality or 'sup par' number, that's actually quite a standard number. A few high end sets (and admittedly more and more sets, but not in that price range) are hitting the 120hz+ mark, but 60 is plenty.



Thank you! I've been hearing all this nonsense and didn't know what to make of the refresh rate. I'msure my Sanyo is 60Hz as well.

rgcombs


quality posts: 2 Private Messages rgcombs

Oh, and for the benefit of the people who focus on numbers without any real understanding of their significance, it's been empirically proven that you can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 32" or 37" TV at any reasonable viewing distance.

The vast majority of people can't tell the difference on a 42" TV. You have to go to a 46" or 50/52" TV before you're likely to see any benefit from 1080i/p resolution.

deadtree9


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morachi wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at with this. You can pretty much input your favorite brand into that site and get complaints.

Phillips is a pretty solid brand I've used them to varying degrees over my life and generally have a very positive impression of them. I will say their customer service/support is probably the best I've ever dealt with.



Agreed. I had a Phillips Avent baby video monitor that died after 3 months of use (well within warranty). I spoke to a live, competent person within five minutes of calling (that was based in the US). Phillips sent me a brand new replacement, which I received the next day. They also did not even ask for a credit card to make the swap.

Cerealkiller1


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I bought one of these about a year and a half ago from Woot for my dorm and it has been an excellent addition. I believe it was the same price then.

The picture is pretty solid and the onboard sound is not bad for a tv. 3 HMDI, plus Component and Composite have been boons as well.

I did have some technical issues where the speakers cut out once in a while for half an hour or so. I believe this was likely the reason it was sent back the first time, and quick testing might not have revealed the flaw.
The RCA outputs out the back always worked, however, so this was not a problem for me.
However, if you find yourself living in a house with people who don't understand why they need to turn on speakers separately from the TV, they might not appreciate this kind of problem (#My_Roommate's_Girlfriend).

Evanidus


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cls31s wrote:...if only it were 1080p...



1080p Does Matter – Here’s When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance vs. Resolution)
http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter

Image Link

It depends on where, and what for, you're going to use the TV. For a larger room home entertainment setup this TV probably isn't the best, but it's also a 32 inch TV, not a monster 50+ inch. You have to take into account how far away from the TV you're actually going to be sitting to determine if 1080 will actually give you any noticeable improvement over 720. Also, there could be a completely different conversation centered around the source of the video you're going to be playing.

I know that for my purposes, this TV would most likely end up being used as a second monitor for my computer with the sole purpose of playing TV & movies. I rent and have roommates, so I watch a lot of media in my room, which isn't exactly Madison Square Garden. A 32 inch display would give me a nice increase in physical viewing size which is nice for when I want to sit farther away across the room.

My current 22 inch monitor has a nice resolution (1680x1050) for doing computer stuff. The screen real estate is great for browsing and having multiple programs open, but I don't really see any benefit from watching video in 1080 versus 720, with equal quality encodes from the same source.

It really depends upon what you intend to use this TV for. I'd say for the 32 inch size of this display, the 720 resolution will probably be more than adequate for many people.

Evanidus


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gjames wrote:720p would be fine if it was the display's native resolution. I have yet to see one that was. They just can't stop making 768p displays and up-sampling the 720p signal, resulting in a softening (blurring) of the image. They need a 1:1 mode that doesn't resample the image, even if it does mean there's a black border around the entire image (for true 720p sources, otherwise go ahead and preserve as much of the 1080i or p signal as you can).

This coming from someone who uses an HP 768p monitor for iPod playback daily. No speakers, but at better than half the price. (But no 1-to-1.)



From the datasheet posted by jasonking0351:

"Screen Format Adjustments: 4:3, 16:9, Normal,
Zoom, Full, Movie Expand, Wide, unscaled (dot by
dot)
"

It seems that you can preserve the aspect ratio, however what I would like to know is if the "dot by dot" option applies to all inputs, or if it is limited to only certain ones. Brief google searching didn't turn up anything for this display specifically, but did show that some other TVs only have the unscaled option for HDMI or PC inputs.

grimshadows


quality posts: 1 Private Messages grimshadows

If it was new and/or 1080p I'd be all over it.. the fact that you only get a 90 day warranty kills the deal for me...

Knoobee


quality posts: 3 Private Messages Knoobee

I have 2 hi def TVs that are hooked up to regular old rabbit ears just like from the 70s via coaxial cable. They work fine and I pull in about 21 channels, such as NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, etc. All the major networks broadcast in HD and the picture is fantastic, FOR FREE without a digital converter box that's required for old TVs. I don't see any reason this TV wouldn't as well.

kmartinsen


quality posts: 1 Private Messages kmartinsen

The 32 inch Phillips that I bought last here last November from WOOT had to be returned twice both with power on problems. Customer service was OK.

I did get 3 other 19 inch Phiilips here and 2 of 3 had power problems soon after warranty expires. BEWARE!

NO MORE PHILLIPS FOR ME THANK YOU.

jaguarjer4jc


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jaguarjer4jc

I am going to have to pass on this one. What can be considered "old school" LCD, and a refurb, this shouldn't be running any more than $199.

kiltedbrandon


quality posts: 0 Private Messages kiltedbrandon

I got this the last time it was on here and I'd recommend it. The only caveat is that the HDMI ports don't have separate audio in, so if you have a mac you have to use external speakers. That's apple's fault, not philips', but it's there. Good tv though.

radi0j0hn


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kmartinsen wrote:The 32 inch Phillips that I bought last here last November from WOOT had to be returned twice both with power on problems. Customer service was OK.

I did get 3 other 19 inch Phiilips here and 2 of 3 had power problems soon after warranty expires. BEWARE!

NO MORE PHILLIPS FOR ME THANK YOU.



It's Philips, by the way. One L. Helps when researching this product with online searches.

acpress.com Not cute, but useful.

anthony2413


quality posts: 0 Private Messages anthony2413

I would pass on this. The refresh rate is only 60hz, and tv's are drastically reduced right now. How long is a refurb warranty?

tikigod18


quality posts: 0 Private Messages tikigod18

the same TV is at Target, NOT refurbished, for the same price.

tinogut


quality posts: 0 Private Messages tinogut

What difference doesit make?

pennino


quality posts: 0 Private Messages pennino

Purchased this exact set last fall for my patio on Best Buy's eBay site for $270.00. Great looking television with even better picture.

awilson53


quality posts: 0 Private Messages awilson53

Picked up one of these the last time they were on Woot...GREAT TV, been very happy.

jmackinac


quality posts: 1 Private Messages jmackinac

I will NEVER and I mean NEV-ER buy anything made by Philips due to the amount of refurbs you see. And this is coming from someone who bought two Dynex 32" LCD TV's from Best Buy this Christmas. The $200 Dynex surprisingly comes highly rated, with little complaints by customers and I even bought a 3 year service plan just in case.

gerak1


quality posts: 0 Private Messages gerak1

I bought a refurbished 52" Philips 6 years ago and it out plays my new Panasonic.

stevenlee212


quality posts: 7 Private Messages stevenlee212

A little off topic here, but i just have to share this with other wooters who have a deep desire to score a bag of carp. I got mine in the mail a couple days ago, that i bought on Christmas day. To my dismay it really was full of useless dumb things. A little dish towel .. jogging headband .. a box of taterchip clips. So final thought is ... Don't break your keyboard attempting to get one .. It probley wont be worth it. Woot I still love you

ecue


quality posts: 9 Private Messages ecue

720p? Refurb?

I'll look for this in my next Bag of Coal.

lostmyfilm


quality posts: 0 Private Messages lostmyfilm

now, is that a subtle play on our culture to have books displayed on your tv?

posti


quality posts: 1 Private Messages posti

I bought one of these to use as a monitor and was very disappointed - then again, it is advertised as a TV, not a monitor. Just be warned it will not provide satisfactory service hooked up to a computer. The resolution doesn;t link up.

itspraneeth


quality posts: 0 Private Messages itspraneeth

Never buy this TV people. This is a piece of crap. It stopped working exactly after 4 months of usage. Half of the screen goes black.

Brewdog55


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Brewdog55

I'll NEVER buy another Philips TV again..My only Philips lasted 2 yrs. Disposable TV I guess

galegao


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humrmongr wrote:uhuh.. Do your homework.

Costco has several NEW 32's, 2 year guarantee, $229-$269.

Sure, Philips is good, refurbs are "ok", but somebody already returned this one once.



Indeed ... for example ... $20 more (includes shipping, so $15 more):

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11679384&whse=BC&topnav=&cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-categorypageHorizontalTop-_-PopularProductsInCategory&cm_vc=categorypageHorizontalTop|PopularProductsInCategory

jjj611


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tikigod18 wrote:the same TV is at Target, NOT refurbished, for the same price.



Link? Only one I see is $299.

http://www.target.com/p/Philips-32-Class-720p-60hz-LCD-HDTV-Black-32PFL3506-F7/-/A-13523583#?lnk=sc_qi_detaillink

mhendrix


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mhendrix wrote:
They make very bad quality TV's:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/home_electronics/philips.html


Expect this tv to work 3 years or less!!!

I'm not sure what you're getting at with this. You can pretty much input your favorite brand into that site and get complaints.

Phillips is a pretty solid brand I've used them to varying degrees over my life and generally have a very positive impression of them. I will say their customer service/support is probably the best I've ever dealt with.


How about this then:
The Best & Worst TVs Identified: Consumer Report
By David Richards | Tuesday | 06/11/2007
When it comes to flat screen TV reliability Hitachi is the worst LCD TV and Philips the worst plasma TV. Panasonic's 50" plasma is the best TV overall, according to an Annual Product Reliability Survey conducted by US organisation Consumer Reports

Look it up!

nielsen91


quality posts: 1 Private Messages nielsen91

Woot shipping is ALWAYS $5.00 it's right under the price.

jbhswim wrote:Shock! It doesn't say how it'll be shipped?! Or did I miss it..



beastcoast


quality posts: 0 Private Messages beastcoast

I bought one of these last time it popped up here (or on one of the other woot! sites) and it's awesome. Perfect bedroom TV, especially wall-mounted. Great picture, good sound, overall good stuff!

pdougmc


quality posts: 0 Private Messages pdougmc

Purchased this reburb in August and have no complaints. I like the picture better than a similar Vizio that I have.

beckib


quality posts: 1 Private Messages beckib

In doing some reasearch on this, I came across this 32" LED at Walmart:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-32-E325BV-HD/17013297

Pretty good reviews, 1 year warranty, and easy return. I'm taking a chance on it.

joecooool


quality posts: 23 Private Messages joecooool

Come on Woot, put up a 60 inch plus set. I've been holding out since Christmas but I'm ready to pull the trigger on a unit at Best Buy.

sensenigk


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itspraneeth wrote:Never buy this TV people. This is a piece of crap. It stopped working exactly after 4 months of usage. Half of the screen goes black.



"Don't ever go on vacation to Florida. I went there once, and it RAINED half the time! Total crap!"

Seriously, that's what you sound like to me. Have you no concept of sample size?

labyrinthia


quality posts: 14 Private Messages labyrinthia

I bought a different refurbished philips on a past woot. The TV arrived broken, but they replaced it promptly with a new TV that has worked from day one.

I'm pretty sure ours is a different model, so take this with a grain of salt, the only thing I don't like about ours is it's hard to see darker images. Otherwise it works great.

Sarisin


quality posts: 7 Private Messages Sarisin

I used to swear by Philips TVs, and Philips products in general. My first was a 42" TV that worked fine until I sold it.

Then, in the past two and one-half year I bought two Philips refurbs from Woot - a 46" and a 19".

Recently the 19" just died (no power) and the remote stopped working for the 46". I've been told the IR receiver for the remote needs to be replaced at around $200. I have Comcast, so use their remote to change channels, but for volume, mode, etc. I have to get up each time and fiddle with the buttons on the side of the Philips set.

Based on recent experience, I would not buy another Philips TV at any price.

rjpeters58


quality posts: 1 Private Messages rjpeters58

Any recommendations re: antenna?

gjames


quality posts: 7 Private Messages gjames
kiltedbrandon wrote:I got this the last time it was on here and I'd recommend it. The only caveat is that the HDMI ports don't have separate audio in, so if you have a mac you have to use external speakers. That's apple's fault, not philips', but it's there. Good tv though.



That depends on the Mac. My Mac mini (current model) will provide audio via the HDMI and Thunderbolt ports to displays with speakers, even if there's an HDMI adapter on the Thunderbolt port.