Anorion wrote:
Also, from experience, these are a little weak for the amount of power they use. It's also a lot of fun to get dead bug parts out after they've been in storage for a while...

I completely disagree. Compared to my standard axial fan of equal wattage, the Dyson's air stream goes further and has more pressure. That's due to 3 reasons:

1) The Dyson uses a vane-axial fan in its base which is more efficient than a common unenclosed axial fan. The vane-axial design puts a standard fan inside a tube, which prevents air backflow (aka tube-axial fan). Then vanes straighten the flow, further improving pressure and efficiency. This design requires smaller (thus lighter) blades. The Dyson's ring then increases airflow further using Inducement and Entrainment. These effects are real, as can be seen by holding a strip of paper behind and beside the ring. In a standard axial fan, there is too much turbulence for Entrainment to be significant. And Inducement is a non-issue since the blades pull air through, not the Bernoulli Effect.

2) A standard fan's airflow is very diffuse and there is backflow (where outgoing air is sucked back into the back of the fan). The Vornados prevent this somewhat by focusing the air into a vortex. The Dyson also uses a more focused beam and more pressure (due to the above vane-axial fan) so backflow is unlikely. This means more air goes to its intended target.

3) The Dyson is especially efficient when compared to standard top-heavy oscillating fans. With a heavy motor on top, it takes tremendous torque to move the head side to side. That uses a lot of energy. Prove this to yourself by trying to move the head with your hand at an angle. The Dyson has its motor on the base, and it's a pretty light motor. Turning it side to side is easy, and much less energy is needed.

All of these mean that the Dyson fan outputs more air further with greater pressure than a standard axial fan using the same amount of electricity.

As some kid claimed a long time ago about the all refurb Dyson vacs, some of these fans have been returned because "old people can't assemble them." Agnes, where are the dang-gummed blades? They must have left them out of the box! Take it back!

KMHinsman wrote:I wonder if they can apply the same concept to a small space heater unit? I'd definitely buy that. Don't really need a cooling fan, but I use small space heaters in my house and office regularly.

Dyson already makes a heater based on the same principles as this fan. In fact, Woot has offered it at least once.

rareskills wrote:Why are these so expensive... tanga.com has an off-brand usb one for 15 bucks haha

Because it's an off brand USB one and this says "DYSON."

sdc100 wrote:Dyson already makes a heater based on the same principles as this fan. In fact, Woot has offered it at least once.

That is almost as big a rip off as the IR heaters that are the fad in multi-level marketing sphere these days.

elpepe wrote:there's no remote for this?

Nope. There's no timer either. In fact, it's shockingly featureless for such an expensive fan.

Their fans are, in my opinion, the only "dog" that Dyson sells.

People on this site love to claim their vacuum cleaners are overpriced. I call those people filthy slobs. I would gladly pay double what I paid for my Dyson because, guess what? It's the only vacuum cleaner I've ever owned that could go toe-to-toe with my Samoyed's fur and consistently win. Not only that, but I can fix pretty much any problem it encounters myself because of the fantastic design. And I'm NOT the handiest of people...I've got one of their portable vacuums for my car as well, and I'm thrilled with it.

They make a hand dryer for bathrooms that is outstanding. Never have to touch anything, and cleans better than any other touchless dryer out there. I love the fact that my office uses these.

This fan, however? I've seen em in action and....it's a fan. It doesn't do anything special. The only problem it solves is getting your tongue lopped off by a fan blade. And really, how many times does that happen? Just no use for it. It doesn't do anything special or meet a special need.

radi0j0hn wrote:That is almost as big a rip off as the IR heaters that are the fad in multi-level marketing sphere these days.

Ripoff is relative in this case. I don't have one but I've seen one at a friend's house and it certainly circulates hot air around a large space more effectively than other space heaters, especially if the space is large. And it does look like a sculpture so he leaves it out year round, even when neither a fan nor heater is needed.

If something functions exceptionally well and its form gives pleasure beyond functionality, is it really a ripoff? Of note, Dyson doesn't claim anything that isn't true. For example, buffeting is indeed eliminated. Whether that matters to you is subjective, but can you call it a ripoff if there is no deception? Like Vornados, I expect these to last a lifetime. That was one way to justify my purchase of the fan and I have not been disappointed.

As for the IR heaters, you're really paying for the [Amish?] cabinet. As with all furniture, value is again subjective so I'm not sure if "ripoff" is appropos. After all, it does warm you.

Greshmahg wrote:Their fans are, in my opinion, the only "dog" that Dyson sells.
[...]
This fan, however? I've seen em in action and....it's a fan. It doesn't do anything special. The only problem it solves is getting your tongue lopped off by a fan blade. And really, how many times does that happen? Just no use for it. It doesn't do anything special or meet a special need.

As an actual owner, a scientist, a card-carrying skeptic and a Research Analyst by profession (I debunk, design and manage medical studies for a living) -- I disagree. I list my background only to say that I'm not easily swayed by hype or aesthetic (it's the reason I've never owned an Apple product). In fact, at least half of my Quality Posts criticize the item being sold. That said, there are many advantages to Dyson's design. The question is not whether the Dyson is innovative, but whether the innovations are worth the extra money to you. They are NOT just another axial fan.

See my review.

remsirk wrote:Does anyone know if it can be used as a non-oscellating fan.

Yes. In fact, I almost never let it oscillate.

sharxgrrl wrote:I have two cats. I think I'm going to get one just for the amusement factor of each of them sticking their heads through it and looking confused!

Cute. But these are so light that your fan will likely end up flat on the floor most of the time if your cats are curious!

I just don't get it. If everything Dyson makes is so good (the current debate here over their fans not withstanding) how come I don't know anyone with a Dyson anything? Are they that well kept of a secret? I understand they may be above three in the morning infomerical status for those who can't sleep (Maybe they do that to.) but I would think I would know someone with a Dyson something by now! Please note, all my friends have electricity where they live!

I want a damn blue one but they are all gone! Guess I wont order :/

showcaller wrote:I just don't get it. If everything Dyson makes is so good...

...then why are there so damn many Dyson refurbs?

kenae3 wrote:I want a damn blue one but they are all gone! Guess I wont order :/

If there is a mod who can check if there happens to be one please let me know!

dave17 wrote:This is why I dislike Dyson so much.The difference between a fan blade and an impeller is meaningless enough in this application as to be outright fraud.
And their magical vacuums always test in mid-pack on Consumer Reports.

If you want to move air efficiently I've got one word for you:Vornado.

I have several different Vornados, all from Woot. And I have this Dyson as well. You're comparing Apples and Oranges because they serve different function. Even Vornado says that they're not so much a fan but an air circulator. And it's not ment to be aimed directly at people. Fact is, air from the Dyson is MUCH more comfortable. In fact, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum with normal axial fans in between. The vortex output of a Vornado makes a VERY pronounced buffeting, which this Dyson eliminates. The buffeting is bad enough that it disturbs my sleep if it's aimed directly at me, although I can tolerate a normal fan. This Dyson has the most natural and comfortable airflow of any fan I've ever used.

pupyluvr wrote:...then why are there so damn many Dyson refurbs?

Buyer's remorse. Many people have unrealistic expectations given their reputation and price. Hence they return it and it becomes a refurb. That's why I actually went to a store to try out this Dyson fan before buying it from Woot.

And BTW, I have not noticed that Dyson has more refurbs than other companies. The fact that Woot likes to sell refurbs from certain companies is not a reliable indicator.

Ringo4422 wrote:Jet engines use fan turbines. Pumps use impellers.
Pets are smart enough to keep away from fan blades, a child will put their finger into it... only once. Us older experienced adults survived steel fan blades without all the super safety stuff out now and guess what? We still have all our fingers.

Fingers aren't the only things at risk. I've seen a woman's hair get pulled in and tied into knots. I've also had a rag pull into a fan. As for pets, that's not true. Yes, the outgoing air in the front provides an indicator to stay away. But there is no such warning in the back and my cat has been known to play with the back of a fan, which is no less dangerous than the front.

Gotta love the modern design of these.

Mydnyte wrote:Interesting too is the fact that all my recent Woot shipments are arriving in what appear to be Amazon style boxes (evidenced by markings onnthe bottom of the box) without the overlord branding - and also have overlord-style packing lists (where pre-overlord shipments normally dint come with any packing lists at all).

BTW, did anyone else catch the Woot box in last week's episode of The Big Bang Theory?

www.amazon.com owns woot.com and several other sites. Check out the bottom of the amazon.com homepage. Below is a list of several of the Amazon brands/sites:

AbeBooks
AmazonLocal
AmazonSupply
AmazonWireless
Askville
Audible
BeautyBar.com
Book Depository
CreateSpace
Diapers.com
DPReview
Endless
IMDb
Junglee.com
MYHABIT
Shopbop
Soap.com
Wag.com
Warehouse Deals
Woot
Yoyo.com
Zappos

StephanT wrote:Is it me or is Dyson stuff always a refreb?

The Dyson fan I bought from Woot was new.

ggingco wrote:These fans sound just like little vacuum cleaners/hair dryers. Basically just a squirrel cage blower in the base.

No. If you remove the ring, it uses what appears to be a vane-axial fan. That's a standard bladed fan inside a tube (aka tube-axial) whose airflow is straightened by vanes. It's more efficient than standard axial fans because the tube prevents backflow, and the vanes makes the air more directional (up into the ring).

showcaller wrote:I just don't get it. If everything Dyson makes is so good (the current debate here over their fans not withstanding) how come I don't know anyone with a Dyson anything? Are they that well kept of a secret? I understand they may be above three in the morning infomerical status for those who can't sleep (Maybe they do that to.) but I would think I would know someone with a Dyson something by now! Please note, all my friends have electricity where they live!

Maybe you need more successful friends?

Wondering if Woot paid for product placement to have a Woot shipping box in the background on Big Bang Theory Thursday?

littlebrother2 wrote:...but,as always,people are afraid of things they don't understand..HA!..
there sure is a bunch of cheap ba$tards on woot!if you ain't got 100 bucks,just go to wallys world and get a box fan for 15.00..maybe it'll last a month(?)before it burns up..and.. (after you go through 10 of them)my dysons will still be working fine..quality costs money!..duuuh?

Funny, for the simple reason that 1) I am sure many can afford this, including myself; and that 2) I fully understand fluid dynamics and I can even simulate the airflow on this thing rather easily. 3) I know the part they use inside this fan, with full spec and life-expectancy.

Sure, the design is great (and I think I am one of the louder design-conscious persons on Woot). But the utility of it and the longevity of it would not exceed that of the Honeywell Table Top fan I listed on page 2 actually are built with a more industrial-grade motor that have a longer lifespan than the Dyson one. It also has a stronger built and can take quite a few tumbling. The Dyson cannot, since the "ring" is made out of rather flimsy plastic.

Based on engineering specifications, I would expect that the Honeywell will not only last longer, it would also use less energy and move more air.

And no, I am not cheap at all, I like the better stuff in life. But I must emphasize better, because I wouldn't want an inferior product that is all form and no function at all.

REFURBISHED????
Looks like a recycled prop from a 50's B Scifi flick. Does it play eerie music?

sdc100 wrote:As an actual owner, a scientist, a card-carrying skeptic and a Research Analyst by profession (I debunk, design and manage medical studies for a living) -- I disagree.

See my review.

oh oh totally off topic but do you have any thoughts on how an inversion table works for spinal traction?

sdc100 wrote:I completely disagree. Compared to my standard axial fan of equal wattage, the Dyson's air stream goes further and has more pressure. That's due to 3 reasons:

1) The Dyson uses a vane-axial fan in its base which is more efficient than a common unenclosed axial fan. The vane-axial design puts a standard fan inside a tube, which prevents air backflow (aka tube-axial fan). Then vanes straighten the flow, further improving pressure and efficiency. This design requires smaller (thus lighter) blades. The Dyson's ring then increases airflow further using Inducement and Entrainment. These effects are real, as can be seen by holding a strip of paper behind and beside the ring. In a standard axial fan, there is too much turbulence for Entrainment to be significant. And Inducement is a non-issue since the blades pull air through, not the Bernoulli Effect.

2) A standard fan's airflow is very diffuse and there is backflow (where outgoing air is sucked back into the back of the fan). The Vornados prevent this somewhat by focusing the air into a vortex. The Dyson also uses a more focused beam and more pressure (due to the above vane-axial fan) so backflow is unlikely. This means more air goes to its intended target.

3) The Dyson is especially efficient when compared to standard top-heavy oscillating fans. With a heavy motor on top, it takes tremendous torque to move the head side to side. That uses a lot of energy. Prove this to yourself by trying to move the head with your hand at an angle. The Dyson has its motor on the base, and it's a pretty light motor. Turning it side to side is easy, and much less energy is needed.

All of these mean that the Dyson fan outputs more air further with greater pressure than a standard axial fan using the same amount of electricity.

You have obviously never used a Vornado fan. I'd take one of those over this crap any day.

ThunderThighs wrote:In our continued efforts to improve shipping, we use a variety of shipping methods such as drop shipping (direct from vendor) and Fulfillment by Amazon (FBA). When using FBA, we instruct our vendor to deliver the product to one or more fulfillment centers from which the product will then be shipped. Please note that we are not part of the Prime or Super Saver Shipping program.

THINK OF THE SNAILS YOU ARE PUTTING OUT OF WORK!

Anorion wrote:You have obviously never used a Vornado fan. I'd take one of those over this crap any day.

And you obviously don't read the previous messages before you post. Here's what I wrote about 12 hours before you posted, and it's on the same page.

It starts, "I have several different Vornados, all from Woot. And I have this Dyson as well. You're comparing Apples and Oranges because they serve different function..."

Does that sound like I've "obviously never used a Vornado"? In fact, I own 9 of them, comprising of 3 different models and if you search Woot, you'd see that I'm a big supporter. And unlike you, I'm so familiar with Vornados that I know they prefer not to be called "fans." They are air circulators, and not meant to blow air directly on the person. If you had read my post, you'd see why you can't compare the two, and how buffeting on the Vornado is very pronounced.

If you disagree with my assessment, if would help Wooters to explain why --instead of just posting two pointless sentences, "You have obviously never used a Vornado fan. I'd take one of those over this crap any day." Furthermore, if would help if you've actually used the Dyson.

Got my blue fan into day. It works just fine and has more air blow then I remember in the store.... upgraded parts? It is not that loud... not any quieter than any other fan.

Drop shipped from Dyson. These are definitely the bottom of the refurbished barrel. Mine had a gross power cord, scratches and dings in the housing, and was dirty (despite having a letter from Dyson that it was "cleaned" prior to rebuilding). Because of it's condition I'm not happy paying $100, I would have paid full price and gotten a new one... this should of been in the crash and dent section for $50.

edit - box says "B Grade Refurb" so ya... the crap refurbs.

Just received mine today as well - unboxed and assembled it - works just fine - no louder than any other fans I've had on my desk - but like was previously mentioned - these are B Grade refurbs - my loop has scuffs and marks on it - doesn't detract from functionality - seems to work just fine as well. These are what you might find in someones garage sale - but IMHO worth the $200 under retail price paid.

you want fresh clean and fancy - buy new...

These seem descent,I bought 2, however 1 of mine is quite noisy, do I contact Dyson for service/replacement, mines shipped from Amazon N.J.

Bought this and now I regret it. It is silly, overpriced even at the Woot discount and doesn't even work that well. And in case you don't know it is VERY VERY LOUD. Pity the fool who payed $200 for this before it was "reengineered" to be quieter. The original must have sounded like jet parked on your desk.

Buyers Remorse:
This fan arrived about 30 minutes ago.
The enamel is chipped in many spots and it's covered with greasy hand and finger prints.
I took it out the box, and quickly put it right back in and requested an RMA #.

I swear it's as if someone took it out of a trash heap, put it in a new box, and shipped it to me. It's just THAT bad.

I love Woot stuff for its quality and price - not this time!

bladeless fanbladeless fansAir multiplierblade less fan

bladeless fanbladeless fansAir multiplierblade less fan

My fan arrived two days ago. I have used it quite a bit since then and I LOVE it. It is no louder than any of the three other "normal" fans I own. The sound increases according to the speed setting, as with any other fan. My only regret is that I only bought one and now realize I should have bought two so I could have one at home and one at work.

This is the third Dyson product that I have purchased (all refurbs) and I continue to be impressed with their products.