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There are songs with crazy lyrics, songs that make a political point, and then there are songs that just want to let you know what happened. Probably the very first songs were historical, so why shouldn't they still exist? This week Scott's made a little list of songs that can also teach. He'll start with a classic:

Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald

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If you just listen to the twangy music, this sounds like another post-Beatles ballad. But if you listen to the lyrics, you'll find this Gordon Lightfoot song is actually a classy tribute to an American tragedy. This Great Lakes freighter sank in 1975 with all hands aboard, and 29 people lost their lives. Like a good historian, Lightfoot just recounts the story and stays out of the way. Both educational and entertaining!

Before wikipedia, the record store was the coolest research location! After the jump are a few more educational hits, and then, it'll be your turn to list a few in the comments.

As always, remember our Spotify playlist will be featuring a great selection from last week's Music Monday comments. The theme of the mix is Best Beatles Covers and aren't you in for a treat? Just remember, before you fire up that playlist, you gotta check out this week's Music Monday below. Our list of History Songs awaits inside…

Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water

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Hey, rock history is still history. With an opening riff that guitar store employees have come to hate, Deep Purple recounts the worst recording session known ot man. The story goes that a guy at a Frank Zappa concert fired a flare gun, thus burning down Deep Purple's rented studio, leading the band to use a mobile recording space borrowed from The Rolling Stones. It's a crazy story that somehow makes perfect sense when mixed into a rock song, to the point it's become a classic. Talk about making lemonade!

Johnny Horton - The Battle Of New Orleans

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How many pop songs start in 1814? The Battle of New Orleans recounts… well, the story of the Battle of New Orleans as part of the War of 1812. This war against the British made us feel a little more like a world power, and somehow ended with us and the British being friendly again. Not exactly the kind of thing you'd expect to be topping the charts in 1959, but hey, maybe education was more important back then.

Bob Dylan - The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll

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It takes real bravery to accuse someone of being a murderer while they're still alive, especially when that person is rich. But that's what Bob Dylan did in 1963, telling the story of a rich tobacco farmer who hit a 51 year old barmaid with his cane and contributed to her death. The guy was given a short sentence, released, then spent the rest of his life having to deal with obsessive Bob Dylan fans asking for his side of the story. The guy said it didn't matter to him, but if nothing else, it left him unable to forget what he'd done until his death in 2009. It's hard to imagine an artist getting away with a song like this one today.

The Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays

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Before Band Aid and USA For Africa and Pink Floyd: The Wall, Bob Geldof wrote this song about a sixteen year old girl who opened fire on a group of schoolchildren in San Diego. Her reason for the crime? "I don't like Mondays." The melody is strong but the story is stronger, and though the lyrics aren't 100% factual, they're still "truthy" enough to inspire more research. I'm saying that it qualifies, and if you don't like it, you can protest in the comments.

So… what are YOUR favorite history songs? Will you pick something obscure, something college rock, or something we've never heard of before? It's all on you now, so drop your picks in the comments below. Of course, as always, we're in the Turntable.fm room waiting for you when you finish. Come and enjoy a morning mix with friends! Incidentally images are from each song's respective Wikipedia page and are here under fair use.



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motospyder


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The Ballad of John and Yoko -- Beatles

Duncan and Brady -- Koerner, Ray and Glover

chipg


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Rox in the Box by The Decemberists.

Probably the only song about the Granite Mountain Mine disaster. About which I'd never heard until I tried to figure out the song.

abitterwoman


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Some good choices, Woot. I also enjoy Sullivan by Carloline's Spine.
The song can still make me tear up at times. For anyone that doesn't know the story, it can be found here on wiki.

"Computers don't make errors. What they do, they do on purpose."

kodiak55


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Nice choice on the lead in with Edmund Fitzgerald. I enjoy listening to that song almost as much as I enjoy the beer that commemorates the same tragic event. And after I've had a few Edmund Fitzgeralds, I might start singing along. And if you've had a few with me, I might not sound all that bad!

When I think historical references in songs, its hard not to think of Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire. Though it doesn't really tell any one story, that song came out when I was at the age where I was discovering my personal taste music. My tastes have evolved quite a bit since those days, but that song still stikes a chord with me every time I hear it.

cjhughes


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Another rock history song - "Woodstock", by Joni Mitchell. Interestingly, Joni missed the festival so she could appear on the rose bud Cavett Show in NYC.

My favorite historical song, though, is "Wooden Horse (Caspar Hauser’s Song)", by Suzanne Vega, from Solitude Standing. It tells the story of a teenager who appeared in Nuremburg, Germany and claimed to have been held in dungeon his entire life to that point. It was rumored that he was a prince of Baden who had been hidden away to allow his uncle to take the throne. (It was also rumored that he was an impostor.) See the wikipedia article.

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle,
I no longer despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
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ScottH61


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"Ohio" - Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.
A song about the Kent State shootings in 1970.

Wiki

Youtube

pooflady


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Sink the Bismarck - Johnny Horton

Well, another day has passed and I didn't use algebra once.

remartin


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Hurricane by Bob Dylan.

optia


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Historical songs, oh, have I got a cache for you....

Pat Humphries
"If I Give Your Name"
It's about the undocumented workers at the World Trade Center.
They couldn't tell investigators about their family members who died because they were afraid of being deported.
I had recently lost my own dad, and the verse about the father just dissolves me, every time.

Steve Goodman
(though I heard Julia Ecklar's cover)
"The Ballad of Penny Evans"
It's patriotic. And anti-war.

America Rock
Schoolhouse Rock, man, Schoolhouse Rock
From "No More Kings" to "Elbow Room" -- you can't get better than the historical songs in Schoolhouse Rock.
I still remember the Constitution this way.

Leslie Fish and the DeHorn Crew
"Jefferson and Liberty"
Just in time for the upcoming season: a political song from Thomas Jefferson's election to President.

Plus--just about anything by Joe Bethancourt and Jim Brannigan.

CowboyDann


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Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Who has the time to listen to that song? Here's my favorite shipwreck song and it wont take an hour and a half to listen to.

It even starts out by telling you you're going to hear a story.




Here is my real submission. Trivium - Contempt Breeds Contamination. It's metal but it's about The 1999 police shooting of Amadou Diallo

Here is one more song.

Tom Waits - Hoist That Rag
It's a song released in 2004 to protest the war in the middle east. It's definitely got that golden voice quality you've come to expect out of Tom Waits. Needless to say the song still carries a pretty strong message.

motospyder


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How about "Creeque Alley" by Mamas and Papas.

And "Paradise" by John Pryne

davep1


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Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant Massacree" complete with "27 8×10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us" . How much more historical can you get?

CatCK


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davep1 wrote:Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant Massacree" complete with "27 8×10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us" . How much more historical can you get?



Brilliant!

aaronwooster


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Rasputina's "My Little Shirtwaist Fire" about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire of 1911 is not only historically accurate but if you listen to it enough times it will make you dizzy.

mossygreen


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mscopley


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"American Pie" by Don McLean
(If you can follow the symbolism.)

wcounts3


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Buffy Saint-Marie's "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee."

Dion's "Abraham, Martin and John"

critias


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"America" by Neil Diamond, immortalized in the movie, The Jazz Singer:

http://youtu.be/ii0b2rpXJ5s

wolfz0rz


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8

"Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris", presented without comment.

critias


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Just thought of a couple of other classics: "Sunday Bloody Sunday" by U2:

http://youtu.be/EM4vblG6BVQ

And "Pride: In the Name of Love" by U2:

http://youtu.be/LHcP4MWABGY

Jairoulle


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Stan Rogers' "The Mary Ellen Carter," though I don't know if it's a true story.

"Fifteen glorious years" from the play "The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade" (Usually known as "Marat/Sade.") It outlines the events of the French Revolution.

reddodgeraz


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Monster/Suicide/America - Steppenwolf

allhailme


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My two songs both happen to be about Chicago area serial killers.

John Wayne Gacey Jr by Sufjan Stevens

Followed by Worlds Fair Hotel by bakelite 78 about HH Holmes

maxfleish


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I have 2 additions:

Alexander the Great - Iron Maiden

and the indelible classic:

MTA Song - The Kingston Trio

Jason Toon


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the Mr. T. Experience - "The History of the Concept of the Soul"

Homer didn't have a comprehensive word for mind.
The psyche and the conscious self had not yet been combined.
He understood events as repetition from the past,
and individual consciousness was not a part of that.
But early Greek thought played a role in the complicated history
of the concept of the soul.

By the time of Plato these ideas had taken shape.
The Phaedo and Timaeus are works which demonstrate
the conscious separation of the knower from the known
and the dual nature of the body and the soul.
Modern thought was possible:
the complicated history of the concept of the soul.
Whoa!

Pythagoras and Orphic doctrines all came into play,
because Plato was a mystic in his own Platonic way.
The pre-Socratic Naturalists saw things in terms of "stuff".
But Plato's metaphysics showed that this was not enough.
This is the incredible complicated history of the concept of the soul.
Rock and roll.

For an interesting discussion, see E. R. Dobbs,
"The Greeks and the Irrational", Berkeley, 1953,
pages 45 to 150.
Ibid!

puffin


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Randy Newman's Burn On, Big River.

Berto


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How about "Istanbul(Not Constantinople)" by They Might Be Giants?

It's not about historical events per se, but it sure helps me remember the previous name of Istanbul, and New York for that matter.

Jason Toon


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the Redskins - "It Can Be Done"

Russia sparked the fires in 1917
First workers revolution
The first workers revolution in history
Working people forced the bosses' backs against the wall
First steps taken for a better life for all
It's a shame
It's a crying shame
When our past is buried
And our victories go un-named
It's a crying shame
When our history books
Talk of kings & men of fame

And in another country workers rose again
1919, 1919 in Berlin
But they didn't learn the lessons
From the Russians that they should
Revolution, revolution was drowned in blood
It's a crying shame
But the lessons plain
It's a crying shame
But the lessons plain
All things are possible

Hunger of the 30's
Hunger of the 30's back again
And the rich still rich
And the poor still the same as they ever were
And it seems to me
We're still not learning from our history
And it's a crying shame
Those who hold the future hold themselves in chains
It's a crying shame
Those who bear the pain hold themselves to blame
It's a crying, it's a crying shame
It's a crying shame

Look to Petrograd
Look to Petrograd, look to Barcelona
Fight against the land
Fight against the land & the factory owners
Same fight today against another ruling class
Learn a lesson from your past
It's a crying shame
But the lessons plain
It's a crying shame
But the lessons plain
It can happen again
It's a crying, crying, crying shame
But the lessons plain
It can be done again!

Listen2Reason


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While it's not exactly historical, I can't let a mention of The Battle of New Orleans pass by without bringing up The Battle of Kookamonga performed by Homer & Jethro!

McGurk


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"The Ballad of Ira Hayes" by Johnny Cash (among others). Written about one of the 6 men who raised the flag on Iwo Jima in that famous photo, and his life afterwards dealing with unwanted attention from it.

Maniacmous


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Can't forget "The Night Chicago Died" by Paper Lace

Not really historical so much as historical fiction, but interesting nonetheless.

revmem


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Zager and Evans, "In the Year 2525"

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Maniacmous


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For something more authentically historical, and a bit off-kilter - try Siouxie and the Banshees - "Cities in Dust" all about Pompeii.

barefootbass


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Neil Young - Cortez the Killer

wtm2015


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Or Louisiana 1927 by Randy Newman. That one makes me tear up.

revmem


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Now I feel obligated add a serious note.. How about "The Giant of Illinois" - Andrew Bird's cover is a good one.

Kudos to the person suggesting Stan Rogers.

BTW, IMHO "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" would be a better Lightfoot pick.

-mm-

HarryFishnuts


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Even though the Grateful Dead also did one, Johnny Cash's version of Casey Jones is more historically accurate.


ScrObot


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They Might Be Giants actually has a number of historically (and more so scientifically) accurate songs, but I'm partial to James K. Polk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SvJMZs5Rs (not the greatest quality)

dsmmrm


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"Lizzie Borden took an axe,
And gave her mother forty whacks,
When she saw what she had done,
She gave her father forty-one."

Was that a song or just a limerick?