I have the wifi versions of BB Playbook, Xoom and iPad2. I got the Xoom from Woot. Where PB and X outshines the iPad is flexibility as ANY computer reads it as external drive and can copy and paste everything between itself and PB and X. Not so with iPad! Everything has to go via iTunes and 1 computer only. Absolutely hates it. And then Apple with closed OS don't accept every file type. I went on recent overseas trip with X and iPad (did not had PB yet) and loved it that I could load my daily photos on X to view. Not so with iPad as I did not had iTunes or my computer. For me the PB and X is much more practical. Apps on iPad is very good (and better), but apps is not just everything. I will take X anytime above iPad. There are not much difference on battery and screen between X and iPad, so it drill down on usage and apps.

$299 Manufacturer refurbished Motorola Xoom 32GB Verizon 4G LTE

Better deal (free shipping, though same purchase price) than this Woot if anyone cares about 3G/4G access on Verizon.

Note: Sold by Lucky Dog Electronics via eBay, with more than 10 available as of this post.

In for 1, if I don't like it, the kids can have a ball.

viper3ez wrote:on the contrary, it runs circles around the Ipad 2 on everything except screen brightness before the boost that ICS brings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_gaCCUyVs&list=FLOVB6cdJ5qdVWsTrEMDulgg&index=6&feature=plpp_video

performancewise, still going to hold its own against the ipad 3 considering the only real upgrade there was the screen resolution.

Don't deceive people. The Xoom tests behind the iPad 1, trails behind the iPad 2, and is not even close to an iPad 3. You are attempting to trick people into thinking the Xoom leads.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this,but I found a GREAT deal on a Kodak - Playfull HD Flash Memory Camcorder - Blue/Silver from
Best Buy.
It is 39 bucks new,and they throw in a Sandisk ULTRA 8GB card for free,and oh yeah,shipping was free too!YAHOOOOOO!!!!

Here is a link(dead,just cut and paste it!)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Kodak+-+Playfull+HD+Flash+Memory+Camcorder+-+Blue/Silver/2003038.p?id=1218305633463&skuId=2003038&st=Select_Camera_and_%20Camcorder_offer_20120503&cp=1&lp=13

Sounds like a toss up...should I get one or not? Hardest decision of the day.

painiac wrote:It also has the micro sd card, but I'm having trouble accessing mine. I'm not sure how, maybe someone can help me out? I haven't really needed it, as 32gb has been more than enough, but it would be nice to know how to do it. Any advice? It doesn't seem to recognize it or want to mount it when I try.

The Xoom must be totally powered down and then power up with the micro-sdhc card inserted in-order to have it recognized (I recommend inserting the sd card slot cover in reverse during the insertion so that you do not accidentally lose the sdcard in the ersatz storage slot -- practically impossible to retrieve!!)! Use Astro or other file managment apps to manage the storage on the sd card - but I don't think you can just readily manage the files directly from the Xoom, best when connected to computer or the files are already stored on the sd card?

jbgroup1 wrote:I wonder if this is upgradeable to Andriod 4.0 ICS.

Mine received the ICS update a few months ago.

pphilipp wrote:Don't deceive people. The Xoom tests behind the iPad 1, trails behind the iPad 2, and is not even close to an iPad 3. You are attempting to trick people into thinking the Xoom leads.

Yeah... Let's not get crazy here. I like my Xoom a lot, but on its best day it MIGHT BE close to an iPad I. The only reasons to get this instead of an iPad are price, and a preference for Android over iOS. If neither or only one of those is important to you, go with the iPad.

pupyluvr wrote:For another 50 Smackers you can have a Refurbed iPad Deuce. Does anyone have both and have an opinion as far as which one is the One Tablet to Rule Them All?

With the IP2 you have half the memory, lower resolution screen and lose the ability to (easily) run any apps or view any pages that require Flash. Between the two, I think the MZ (based as much on the fact that it is less expensive as anything else) is at least the IP2's equal.

fevans1980 wrote:Yeah... Let's not get crazy here. I like my Xoom a lot, but on its best day it MIGHT BE close to an iPad I. The only reasons to get this instead of an iPad are price, and a preference for Android over iOS. If neither or only one of those is important to you, go with the iPad.

Or if you want SD support ... or better full-site browsing for sites with Flash (of which there are MANY ... not a big deal on phones, but a drag on tablets) ... or the better camera ...

To be fair, the other reason to buy iPad is that the closed OS will generally mean better stability/reliability, which many people obviously prefer, and are willing to give up the better flexibility and interoperability ... my sister-in-law fits into this group, and the iPad is an excellent choice for her. In fact, while I really like my Xoom, and have enjoyed exploring Android, if the price were the same I may have chosen the iPad just for compatibility with my iPhone ...

I bought one of these from Woot! back in November and I really love it. Instantly upgradable to ICS 4.0.4, the current build, and a nice piece of hardware overall.

I bought it without knowing what I'd do with it but its become my best friend for at-home browsing, e-mail, Reddit, etc. With a case its as good or better than my laptop for use on the couch or in bed.

Also, I use it as a major piece of my home media center for streaming HD video and whatnot.

At this price, definitely worth it.

MyPooka wrote:With the IP2 you have half the memory, lower resolution screen and lose the ability to (easily) run any apps or view any pages that require Flash. Between the two, I think the MZ (based as much on the fact that it is less expensive as anything else) is at least the IP2's equal.

Memory is a deceiving thing when comparing Android and iOS devices. The simple fact is, the Dalvic interpreter is a memory hog, so an Android device requires twice the RAM as an equivalent iOS device to do basically the same types of things.

jjessop wrote:Great tablet but Motorola has the same thing (16gb) on there site with $30 of apps for $279.

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Tablets/MOTOROLA-XOOM-FAMILY-EDITION-US-EN?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=NA_US-EN_PPC_XOOM&WT.mc_ev=click

Not quite the same. The Motorola Family edition you linked, in addition to half the built in memory has a 1.3 megapixel front facing camera versus the 2 megapixel camera in the Xoom on today's Woot. So...half the memory (16 vs. 32) and a lower spec front facing camera for 20 (25 with shipping) dollars less.

So what's the chance of getting this before I leave in two weeks (May 18th)? Pretty good? I'm in La.

I bought one but want two, is there a way to do it?

Bufflomike wrote:I bought one but want two, is there a way to do it?

Nevermind, I just made a new account

Oops.

jbgroup1 wrote:I wonder if this is upgradeable to Andriod 4.0 ICS.

I have one and Google pushed ICS to it a cpl of months ago. Its an awesome piece of hardware and a true Google experience device.

Video review from PocketNow of ICS on the Xoom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsaQqPxlE2c&t=5m32s

I use the app ezpdf with it, to edit and add annotations to a pdf textbook. it works quite well with it, it takes a couple minutes to learn the intricacies of it, but it works great for me.

I almost gave in to the ipad hype. But then I got an ipad for work use. I can see why some would like it but I keep running into major hurdles. For one, trying to easily transfer misc media files to it is a gigantic pain in the butt compared to an android device. And that's what I primarily use a tablet for, whether it be training videos, movies/tv, music, whatever. With android it doesn't matter how I get the file onto the tablet, I can browse to where it's at and open it with whatever app I have that media type set to open with.

Most importantly, I don't need my charging cable with me and don't need itunes on whatever PC I'm at. I just pop out the memory card, sick it in the PC and copy whatever media/documents/whatever and done.

amoraluv wrote:its funny that also 1saleaday is selling the ASUS Transformer with dock today.

Must be tablet day or week since on friday cowboom had a tablet fire sale and I picked up the Asus for $219

I have been looking at both of these. Does anyone have any information about the comparisons between the Transformer and the Xoom?

clanecks wrote:$299 Manufacturer refurbished Motorola Xoom 32GB Verizon 4G LTE

Better deal (free shipping, though same purchase price) than this Woot if anyone cares about 3G/4G access on Verizon.

Note: Sold by Lucky Dog Electronics via eBay, with more than 10 available as of this post.

Do you need to activate through Verizon?

USARIF wrote:Do you need to activate through Verizon?

it will work as WiFi only if you do not activate...Verizon also has monthly plans.

morriea wrote:it will work as WiFi only if you do not activate...Verizon also has monthly plans.

thanks....
so only difference would be free shipping

pphilipp wrote:Don't deceive people. The Xoom tests behind the iPad 1, trails behind the iPad 2, and is not even close to an iPad 3. You are attempting to trick people into thinking the Xoom leads.

Some of your claims (especially for the iPad 1 vs. the Xoom) are objectively not so. See the original AnandTech review of the Xoom running Honeycomb: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4191/motorola-xoom-review-first-honeycomb-tablet-arrives/

With ICS, the Xoom is an all around better experience than the Xoom on Honeycomb. And it is quite fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsaQqPxlE2c&t=5m32s

I had the last one, which was $319 on Woot! It says refurbed, but they are new and have the one-year warranty, right? I ended up selling mine. Preferred my 10-inch Toshiba netbook with extended battery, since I type a lot and didn't care for using a keyboard and mouse with the Xoom. So I sold it for almost what I paid for it and bought a Kindle Fire, which I prefer because of the smaller form factor for moving around. I just never took advantage of the Xoom features, don't play games, etc. I actually prefer the Fire, which I got on Amazon Deal of the Day for $139 (an open box special), because the 7-inch screen is just right for Netflix and Amazon Prime, and as an e-reader it's just easier to manage. To me, the $200 difference not worth it. But I really did think the Xoom was an excellent tablet. Just got tired of looking at it sitting there. I find I am using the Fire much more.

Can this tablet run java based games, such as Pogo games, etc? The other older versions of Android can't run java.

USARIF wrote:thanks....
so only difference would be free shipping

Well, that and the option of 3G 4G LTE in case you want it.

rfrailing wrote:I have been looking at both of these. Does anyone have any information about the comparisons between the Transformer and the Xoom?

youtube.com/watch?v=pVAk6DEnTUY

Don't forget you can hook up the docking station to the Asus and it becomes a mini laptop

How would you compare this against Samsung Galaxy with 16G and 2-year warranty for 424$ total from Costco?

What I want to know is what kinda Sd card class do you get for a tablet? Is a 4 and up good or do I need at least a class 6?

amoraluv wrote:youtube.com/watch?v=pVAk6DEnTUY

Don't forget you can hook up the docking station to the Asus and it becomes a mini laptop

Actually the current deal at 1saleaday has the docking station included.

is this upgradable to the 4.0 ice cream sandwich ?

jasmuels wrote:is this upgradable to the 4.0 ice cream sandwich ?

OTA will be waiting when you get it. ICS has been on this since Jan.

I pulled the trigger all the way to the last step and saw woot is charging tax! Broke the deal for me.. Even with the coupon code for tax, it only reduces $5... For $50 more u can get a BRAND NEW one on amazon. And they arent charging tax on there.

06z71silvy wrote: For $50 more u can get a BRAND NEW one on amazon.

With 32 GB of flash storage? No, don't think that you can. Around 370 dollars* for a 32 GB version as is cheap as it gets for a new unit.** See http://www.amazon.com/MOTOROLA-XOOM-Android-10-1-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B0045FM6SU


*One brand new seller lists it for around 323 with shipping as I write this, but the seller has zero history.

*And really, who cares if it's "BRAND NEW"? Same one year warranty applies, and WOOT's refurbs tend to be indistinguishable from brand new in most every way except for the packaging.

*And really, who cares if it's "BRAND NEW"? Same one year warranty applies, and WOOT's refurbs tend to be indistinguishable from brand new in most every way except for the packaging.

Just FYI...the Factory refurbs are stamped as such on the back casing. Like that matters very much.

Yo, I hope I'm not going to rehash what's been said. In a few hours another woot will be up and all will be for naught. I've owned one for 5 months. Concerning the hardware itself: I'm not an engineer but I was impressed what the teardown sites showed inside. Many will agree that even though it's an early tablet, Motorola threw everything at this and did a lot right. On Android: Once you get the automatic upgrade to ICS 4.0.4 you are seeing this hardware behave the way it should have run a year ago when it launched. On Apps: I use this as an ereader (Kindle, Moon+), email, web surfer and a movie machine. I play a few games, and Angry Birds Space on this is awesome fun. Now, let's get in to the Apple/Android thingy. You've probably heard the term "walled garden" used for Apple. my daughter has an Ipod Touch, and we both hate the fact that everything has to move through Itunes. If Apple permits it, Itunes will let it through. OTOH, I've played with computers, Apple and PC, since the 1980s. If you are very comfortable working within windows (creating/naming/moving files/installing software) you can hook up the xoom to your PC with a usb cable and drag books, music and movies back and forth with ease, including to an installed microsd card. For those of you wanting to move movies on board, I'm having great success using DVD Catalyst on the PC and MX video player on the Xoom. This is what is known as a Google Experience Device (GED) since their buy-in to Motorola Mobility. I anticipate support for the near future with at least another update or two before the electronics world moves on. That said, this Xoom has greatly exceeded my expectations, and that's without any outside modifications. It's my third and by far most expensive tablet (paid way more than this Woot price), but the quality and enjoyment totally smokes what I used before.