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lichme


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Take a look at more info on the Product Page

kjady


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How do these feel with a head set on? I work at a call center and am looking for another set that will feel good with a head set on.

conanthelibrarian


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Solid reviews (4.1 out of 5.0) over at amazon


conanthelibrarian


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Let's see what Geekanoids has to say


conanthelibrarian


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Solid reviews (3.8 out of 5.0) over at bestbuy.com


ilovereality


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"All things people by glasses for IRL."

"by" ?

For shame Woot Editor, for shame! ;)


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thestuntman


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I don't understand why these are gaming glasses? Aren't they just glasses that ease eye strain when using a computer? Because I could actually use that, but all descriptions point to there being something game specific about these... and it gives me pause.

tanyalan


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thestuntman wrote:I don't understand why these are gaming glasses? Aren't they just glasses that ease eye strain when using a computer? Because I could actually use that, but all descriptions point to there being something game specific about these... and it gives me pause.



I have a couple of pairs I bought directly from Gunnar. I am a gamer and bought them for gaming, but I also have a job where I'm on the computer all day long and now have a pair that lives at work. These help me avoid those end of the work day headaches from too much squinting at monitors.

taekiface


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thestuntman wrote:I don't understand why these are gaming glasses? Aren't they just glasses that ease eye strain when using a computer? Because I could actually use that, but all descriptions point to there being something game specific about these... and it gives me pause.



They work for both...just so e styles are better for the "office" though they are all good for home or work.

Lord John Whorfin


quality posts: 27 Private Messages Lord John Whorfin

The nonsense glasses manufacturers will come up with in order to sell glasses to people who don't need them is incredible.
These are not just completely useless, they also make you look stupid.

epimetheus


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ericshmerick wrote:Lol, so now we need to wear yellow eyewear when using a computer. Let's invent something random to make money!

No.



I've looked with interest at these glasses over the past few years but never pulled the trigger, so I'm always interested in opinions one way or the other.

Do you or Lord John have actual experience with theses, or do you just not like the concept?

plugh


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Lord John Whorfin wrote:The nonsense glasses manufacturers will come up with in order to sell glasses to people who don't need them is incredible.
These are not just completely useless, they also make you look stupid.



As someone who needs to wear glasses to see, I am a happy owner of Gunnar prescription glasses. They have a glare coat that significantly cuts down the reflection of fluorescent overhead lighting resulting in markedly less eyestrain and headaches. The yellow further reduces the light glare and improves screen contrast.

ubernoobnth


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ericshmerick wrote:Lol, so now we need to wear yellow eyewear when using a computer. Let's invent something random to make money!

No.



Spoken like someone who has never experienced eye strain and the accompanying headaches. Consider yourself lucky.

I don't have this model, but I got a pair from the Woot! sale a while back. I didn't expect much to be honest, but they worked wonders for the problems I was having. Obviously something I'd never wear outside of where I need to wear them... but they get the job done.

ocsurfreport


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epimetheus wrote:I've looked with interest at these glasses over the past few years but never pulled the trigger, so I'm always interested in opinions one way or the other.

Do you or Lord John have actual experience with theses, or do you just not like the concept?



I do, I bought them thinking it might make a deference in gaming or something, but really it was just in my head. I am also a Art Director and glued to the computer, tried these and nothing special again. I never get these headaches that people constantly mention from staring or squinting at the screen so I have no idea what they are talking about, and I have 2 30" apple displays when working. On the other hand I thought that the glasses looked kinda sharp and decided to see if I could use them While driving (like the Tag Heuer driving glasses) and that was a big mistake because then I did get headaches. The first time I waved it off thinking I must be sleepy, the second time I thought to myself that my eyes kinda hurt, but it cant possibly be the glasses, the third and final time I acutely got really dizzy, so I decided that something was quite wrong here, so I held them up next to my Serengeti sunglasses for comparison, (Quick switch, back and forth) only to discover that these have a slight magnification that is just barely visible, but enough to cause your vision to be off when used looking long distances. Anyway you should probably avoid them.

psychomuse


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ubernoobnth wrote:Spoken like someone who has never experienced eye strain and the accompanying headaches.



I have always attributed those headaches to the cheap whiskey I drink when I play PC games all night long. But you're suggesting it might be the monitor... hmmm. Not the whiskey. Good to know. Bottoms up!

inflationary


quality posts: 0 Private Messages inflationary

I was a Research Scientist at B&L (originator of good RayBan Sunglasses), then moved on to aerospace. B&L sold off the brand. These Gaming/Computer glasses should more accurately be called Placebo Glasses! People get cataract surgery to REMOVE natural eye lens yellowing with age. These things give you instant old eyes. If your computer is "too bright white", just adjust the screen to your favorite muted yellow tinge. On the other hand, if you need a placebo...THEY WORK BEAUTIFULLY!

Takran


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These are for reducing eye strain - there is no other purpose to them. If you do not suffer from eye strain due to long periods of computer use, you do not need these (see end of post - you technically don't need them at all). I am one of those people who does not get headaches, and therefore do not own a pair of these. They do not give you any kind of advantage or assistance with gaming.

The 'enhanced' vision that people feel they get is an illusion. Human eyes are more sensitive to light in the "yellow" part of the spectrum - due to the more-sensitive green and red cones in your eye both being activated by yellow light - than any other specific part of the spectrum. The yellow tinted lens reduces overall light input, causing the pupil to dilate to larger than usual, and consequently increasing the amount of yellow light hitting the retina. This gives the surreal illusion of "seeing better", when in reality you've actually lost some visual data through the filtering of the lens' tint. TL;DR: These don't "help" with gaming.

While I personally wouldn't compare a set of yellow glasses to cataracts, I do agree with what inflationary said: you can adjust the tint of your monitor to achieve the same result as far as eye strain reduction due to overly bright whiteness. From my understanding, some people prefer the glasses because it makes everything around them look yellow while they're using the computer, which is less jarring when glancing away from the yellowed monitor to non-yellowed real life.

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chicokiri


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Won't go on about the lenses, as I've not personally experienced them.

Those wondering what makes these "gaming" glasses - it's the frame. Supposedly they're comfortable enough to wear with a headset, which can be a problem with glasses.

tmacfarlan


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I'm not sure why people are attributing the eye strain solely to the computer screen. [Note: this post is kind of long-winded, so skip to the last three paragraphs if you're not here for science class]

The eye strain most people are having at their computer is due to the subtle difference in frequency of their monitor and the fluorescent lights overhead.

Nerds will all know that their monitor operates at a specific frequency, and you can adjust it in your computer's settings. The native frequency is usually 60Hz (the power line transmission frequency), but some monitors have different native frequencies.

This means that your screen doesn't emit a steady light, it flashed at you so fast that you don't notice it. You can test this theory by keeping the screen in your peripheral vision and focusing on something else - most people can then see the screen flickering. It works with televisions as well, even the old tube-style ones. Ever see a video recording of a monitor or TV and it flickered or had those lines running down it? That's the same effect. The video recorder grabs the picture at a different rate of speed than the screen produces it, causing distortion.

Now, the normal person sees at about 32 frames per second. This means that the monitor flashes nearly twice as fast as you can see, and your eyes will fill in the extra with the light left over from the last flash. No harm, no foul.

The problem comes in with overhead fluorescent lighting. Those lights also flash, and it's usually at a different rate than your screen. To find out the frequency of your lights, you would have to check the ballast model's frequency and then do some back-of-the-napkin math against how old (or new, in some cases) the light itself is.

Some fluorescent lights have a frequency of 60Hz, but that's for a full cycle. That means that in the first part of a frame (1/60 of a second) it's getting brighter, and the second part of the frame it's dimming. As the tube gets old, that frequency lowers. There are a lot of different reasons for that, from the ballast to the cathode to the starter. If you're interested, you can learn more at the wikipedia page about it.

The difference in frequency between your screen and your room lighting is what causes eye strain and headaches for most people. The lights are flashing at a different speed than your screen, and even though you can't see it, your eyes are affected by it.

I never had eye strain problems at previous jobs, but I think that was because I could always turn off the overhead lights and I'd put an incandescent (or LED more recently) light in my office. Now I'm in shared workspace and I can't do that. I started getting eye strain issues around the end of the day, and I'm in for one to see if these help.

Bottom line: For $40, if they work then I've saved myself a lot of headaches. If they don't work, well, I've spent more on far worse ideas.

wwyssh


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Is it for nearsightedness? Why there is no parts for you to enter your degree?

roybotnik


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If you have eye strain problems you should probably get a decent monitor and office setup. I'm buying a pair of these just to look like a pass interference at the office.

digduga


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Just curious, but TAG Heuer has invented a ton of research into pale yellow lenses for night time eye fatigue relief for racing-car drivers. (Source; http://www.tagheuer.com/int-en/eyewear/expert-glasses/night-vision-anti-glare#/int-en-eyewear-expert-glasses-automatic-night-vision-matt-black-elastomer-glasses-3582-099). My question is, is this basically the same technology at a fraction of the price or is this something completely different?

ThunderThighs


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wwyssh wrote:Is it for nearsightedness? Why there is no parts for you to enter your degree?

No, they are plain lenses although there is a minute amount of magnification according to Gunnar.



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kolme


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From the gaming community - Please dont buy these to look cool, you just make the gaming community as a whole uncool and we're trying very hard to move up in the world.

But if you have significant eye strain from your monitor and for some reason refuse to lower the brightness (??), then maybe these are for you? Even this seems to be a bit of stretch since it doesnt say this anywhere in the details nor is this an FDA approved device for eye strain reduction (likely the reason why it doesnt mention any strain reduction in the details).

/shrug...

gullsnest


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inflationary wrote:I was a Research Scientist at B&L (originator of good RayBan Sunglasses), then moved on to aerospace. B&L sold off the brand. These Gaming/Computer glasses should more accurately be called Placebo Glasses! People get cataract surgery to REMOVE natural eye lens yellowing with age. These things give you instant old eyes. If your computer is "too bright white", just adjust the screen to your favorite muted yellow tinge. On the other hand, if you need a placebo...THEY WORK BEAUTIFULLY!



Sorry but I call BS alert. If you had in fact been a "research scientist" at B&L you would know that these are for blocking BLUE light which is what causes the symptoms of CVS (computer vision syndrome) a very real affliction. Your computer being "too bright white" has nothing to do with it. As a pilot involved with Aerospace medicine, I have used RayBan pioneered yellow lensed haze and high altitude glasses before switching over to RayBan's Ambermatics when introduced back in the 1970s and have worn them ever since, for flying and driving, for the very same reasons. I also have several pairs of Foster Grant computer readers as I prefer the more amber lense color to the brighter more yellow colors like these, but the effectiveness is the same. The science behind them is proven and has been for over 40 years, and was, as I said pioneered by RayBan/Bosch & Lomb. It is unfortunate that the Ambermatics were discontinued when RayBan was bought by Luxotica.

fusedfetus


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kjady wrote:How do these feel with a head set on? I work at a call center and am looking for another set that will feel good with a head set on.



I have some fairly large, but normally comfy gaming headphones. When I use the glasses and the headphones, the area behind my ears where my glasses rest are sore within a couple hours.

chiablo


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Unless you have a CRT monitor, these are useless. At the call center I used to work at, I had a CRT as my second monitor and would frequently get bad migraine headaches. I got some Gunnar's and whether it was placebo effect or they actually worked, I didn't get as many headaches.

If you have LCD monitors and you find you get eyestrain or headaches, download f.lux (http://justgetflux.com/) and it will resolve all of your problems for free.

klack002


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I have been a skeptic for sometime. I read as much as I could on these and it seems that they work for some and don't for others.
Flu.x is an alternative, viable but I don't know if everyone has the access at their work PC's to get it. In my case - HECK NO.

Now I bought these off of Amaz. at around 50 bucks. I was curious, and I saw them at Best Buy and thought, what the heck.

They work for me. Reduced eye strain, to the point when I finish a good session behind the PC my eyes are not at fatigued, tired, nor rubbed to redness.
I am purchasing another pair from here just to have one set at work and one set at home.
They work for me - if its the placebo effect, so be it, my eyes thank me and the price is right.
KCL

kazama


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I use f.lux on all of my machines and have experienced zero improvement in eye strain or headaches related to computer use.

Going to give these a whirl and see if they help.

klack002 wrote:I have been a skeptic for sometime. I read as much as I could on these and it seems that they work for some and don't for others.
Flu.x is an alternative, viable but I don't know if everyone has the access at their work PC's to get it. In my case - HECK NO.

Now I bought these off of Amaz. at around 50 bucks. I was curious, and I saw them at Best Buy and thought, what the heck.

They work for me. Reduced eye strain, to the point when I finish a good session behind the PC my eyes are not at fatigued, tired, nor rubbed to redness.
I am purchasing another pair from here just to have one set at work and one set at home.
They work for me - if its the placebo effect, so be it, my eyes thank me and the price is right.
KCL



DAOWAce


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tmacfarlan wrote:Now, the normal person sees at about 32 frames per second.


Stopped reading there.

Eyes don't see in FPS.


On topic: I wear glasses so I can't use any pair of gunnars unless I get a prescription for it, which are like $300; way out of my budget to even see if they help reduce my eye fatigue.

As for f.lux, I tried it once. Once. It was absolutely disgusting. Granted, I tried it at about 4AM at default settings, so I could've calibrated it not to yellow so severely, but I couldn't be bothered. I'd personally rather wear glasses that surround the eyes to keep moisture in and also help reduce glare and that 'blue' light emission. FWIW, I don't get headaches at all despite using my PC at least 16 hours a day, my eyes just get damn tired after a while, especially when I try to read things (which is why I haven't taken up web/game programming again for a few years now).

Debating just picking them up solely to try them out.. Who knows, maybe I actually correct my vision enough in the near future to not need glasses anymore (or at least not to see text on my monitor while sitting in a normal position) and I can actually use them at all times.

Still. the amber color.. uggh.

gunnartech


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kjady wrote:How do these feel with a head set on? I work at a call center and am looking for another set that will feel good with a head set on.



Hi...From GUNNAR. The RPG does OK with a headset. It's not the best style, but it's not the worst. The ones with flatter temples are really good. Look for Paralex, Scope, Phantom, Vayper, etc.
thx
GT

gunnartech


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thestuntman wrote:I don't understand why these are gaming glasses? Aren't they just glasses that ease eye strain when using a computer? Because I could actually use that, but all descriptions point to there being something game specific about these... and it gives me pause.



Same lens as our advanced computer glasses. Just the frame fit and styling are different. Typically we make our gaming glasses work with headsets a bit better and go for bigger coverage in the lenses since gaming reduces blink rate even more than regular computer use. Bottom line, they'll do great working on spreadsheets and writing code. Nothing game specific about the lens.

gunnartech


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Lord John Whorfin wrote:The nonsense glasses manufacturers will come up with in order to sell glasses to people who don't need them is incredible.
These are not just completely useless, they also make you look stupid.



Agree...I hate those darn safety glasses that my shop teacher made me wear. I much prefer a huge splinter lodged in my cornea!

Don't take it hard...just having some fun.

I've been in eyewear my whole career and been surprised by how reluctant people are to using specialized eyewear that is adapted to specific tasks, yet they have no issue with it in other product categories. eg. When was the last time you saw someone run a marathon in loafers or play professional soccer in sneakers? Footwear industry has long since embraced the idea that you can get better performance by having a set of shoes that is adapted to the task at hand. It's possible to do the same thing with eyewear. In sports optics, we do it all the time. Same principles can be applied to the computer use scenario. Easy enough to optimize for viewing distance, field of view, and any issues in environmental lighting in order to make the eye more comfortable. That's what we patented at GUNNAR. That's what we stand behind with the GUNNAR Guarantee. Feel free to reach out at any time. joe at gunnars.com
thx
Joe (GUNNAR CEO)

gunnartech


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kazama wrote:I use f.lux on all of my machines and have experienced zero improvement in eye strain or headaches related to computer use.

Going to give these a whirl and see if they help.



f.lux doesn't work for all the problems associated with computer eyestrain and only 'sort of' fixes the one that it's designed to help.

Basic rundown on major causes of computer eyestrain.

1- Reduced blink rate. Eyes dry out.

2- Extended time in near point viewing. Eyes have to strain to maintain focus.

3- Quality of light. Backlights from computers aren't full spectrum light.

4- Glare and visual noise.


f.lux tries to help with the Quality of light. The problem is that it doesn't address the other issues, and it doesn't fully address the quality of light issue either. Since the CCFL or OLED backlight is the original source or light, you can't add to the emitted spectrum, you can only filter from it. f.lux can filter some of the excessive blue light, but it can't give you a full spectrum viewing experience.

Hope that makes sense.

gunnartech


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klack002 wrote:I have been a skeptic for sometime. I read as much as I could on these and it seems that they work for some and don't for others.
Flu.x is an alternative, viable but I don't know if everyone has the access at their work PC's to get it. In my case - HECK NO.

Now I bought these off of Amaz. at around 50 bucks. I was curious, and I saw them at Best Buy and thought, what the heck.

They work for me. Reduced eye strain, to the point when I finish a good session behind the PC my eyes are not at fatigued, tired, nor rubbed to redness.
I am purchasing another pair from here just to have one set at work and one set at home.
They work for me - if its the placebo effect, so be it, my eyes thank me and the price is right.
KCL




Ask you eye doctor....he'll let you know that it's not a placebo effect. GUNNAR is recognized and covered by most major vision insurance plans based on the 'real' effects provided.

gunnartech


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chiablo wrote:Unless you have a CRT monitor, these are useless. At the call center I used to work at, I had a CRT as my second monitor and would frequently get bad migraine headaches. I got some Gunnar's and whether it was placebo effect or they actually worked, I didn't get as many headaches.

If you have LCD monitors and you find you get eyestrain or headaches, download f.lux (http://justgetflux.com/) and it will resolve all of your problems for free.



CRTs were miserable, and I'm glad we're getting to the end of that era. LCDs have their own set of issues, however. See the other post about f.lux and the limitations there. Bottom line is that whatever monitor you use, you'll incur eyestrain due to having your eyes fixed in one location for 8 hours a day. Doctor recommended solution for all monitors is to take breaks, change focal distances frequently, set up your work station in the most ergonomic fashion possible, and use computer eyewear.

gunnartech


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inflationary wrote:I was a Research Scientist at B&L (originator of good RayBan Sunglasses), then moved on to aerospace. B&L sold off the brand. These Gaming/Computer glasses should more accurately be called Placebo Glasses! People get cataract surgery to REMOVE natural eye lens yellowing with age. These things give you instant old eyes. If your computer is "too bright white", just adjust the screen to your favorite muted yellow tinge. On the other hand, if you need a placebo...THEY WORK BEAUTIFULLY!



Just need to correct a few key things here. First of all, cataracts are caused by clouding of the crystalline lens of the eye, not the yellowing of the lens with age. Interestingly, in cataract surgery, it is common to insert a replacement lens with blue light blocking properties similar to what you find in GUNNAR lenses. This is to filter the High Energy Visible (HEV) light that has been associated with macular degeneration.

On the point of "yellowing" and macula I should note that there actually is a great "yellowing" phenomenon that occurs in the eye, but it's not when we're old. Rather it's after we are born and, as infants, begin to ingest lutein, a naturally occurring carotenoid which deposits on the macula to shield the most sensitive part of the retina from harmful blue light.

Bottom line, GUNNAR is augmenting that process and giving you the well documented benefits of reducing the HEV part of the spectrum of visible light.

Additionally, the focusing power in the lens relaxes your eyes, and the high wrap keeps your eyes from drying out. Well documented and hardly a placebo.

Thanks!
Joe Croft (CEO of GUNNAR)

PS One of our investors is the former president of B&L!

pjfavia


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gullsnest wrote:Sorry but I call BS alert. If you had in fact been a "research scientist" at B&L you would know that these are for blocking BLUE light which is what causes the symptoms of CVS (computer vision syndrome) a very real affliction. Your computer being "too bright white" has nothing to do with it. As a pilot involved with Aerospace medicine, I have used RayBan pioneered yellow lensed haze and high altitude glasses before switching over to RayBan's Ambermatics when introduced back in the 1970s and have worn them ever since, for flying and driving, for the very same reasons. I also have several pairs of Foster Grant computer readers as I prefer the more amber lense color to the brighter more yellow colors like these, but the effectiveness is the same. The science behind them is proven and has been for over 40 years, and was, as I said pioneered by RayBan/Bosch & Lomb. It is unfortunate that the Ambermatics were discontinued when RayBan was bought by Luxotica.



You're right, it's the blue light in LCD screens that is a major cause of the eyestrain. I bought a pair of eye glasses in Japan designed for blocking blue light from computers, and they were only $30. They also have screen protectors for gaming systems like the 3DS that filter out the blue light before it gets to your eyes.

What concerns me about these is that there is no mention about blocking blue light, and the description talks only about the frame and construction. People probably still need education about how blue light is related to eye strain before you can sell them lenses for preventing it.

gunnartech


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ThunderThighs wrote:No, they are plain lenses although there is a minute amount of magnification according to Gunnar.



These are for people with 20/20 vision or corrected 20/20 vision. So, if you wear contacts or have had LASIK then these will work for you as well. Prescription eyewear can be ordered from gunnars.com.