FenStar


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DeFlanko wrote:
LMAO....
couldent help it...

Source:
http://www.res.pickens.k12.al.us/P1010141%20chaperones.jpg



still don't get it...

Still single, can't imagine why.

DeFlanko


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wizard7926 wrote:

water wouldn't have octane in it, since it'd defeat the purpose of using water as a fuel, to replace combustibles like octane-based gasoline, right?



<shakes head... > that was part of the joke...

qwertyuiop001


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FenStar wrote:

But I like fire!

plus combustion is directly converted into KE.



Combustion hot. Combustion in air... nitrogen compounds. Smog. Sounds like Smaug. Must be evil.

gimme my damn monkey

FenStar


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qwertyuiop001 wrote:

Combustion hot. Combustion in air... nitrogen compounds. Smog. Sounds like Smaug. Must be evil.


which is why you only let it combine with oxygen...

Still single, can't imagine why.

DeFlanko


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FenStar wrote:

still don't get it...




they're Chaperones... they cought H and O toghter.. they seperated them.. casue they got cought.... OHY...

FenStar


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DeFlanko wrote:


they're Chaperones... they cought H and O toghter.. they seperated them.. casue they got cought.... OHY...



... Are you gona explain it or not? What does the h and the o stand for?

Still single, can't imagine why.

McGuffy


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qwertyuiop001 wrote:

I am arguing against defining water as a fuel. You get energy from a fuel. You have to add energy to water to make it do anything. Water isn't a fuel.




If you consider nuclear reactions, any lower element is a "fuel". Just because it won't burn when you light a match doesn't mean there's not energy potential.

Steam engines rely heavily on water as a fuel. Yes, you have to burn something to create the steam, but using this logic, gasoline is solar power, because the animals that became the oil lived because of energy from the sun, right?

qwertyuiop001


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FenStar wrote:
which is why you only let it combine with oxygen...



How are you going to get pure oxygen into your engine? Are you going to put a tank of liquid oxygen next to your tank of liquid hydrogen?

I guess you really do like fire!

gimme my damn monkey

McGuffy


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FenStar wrote:

... Are you gona explain it or not? What does the h and the o stand for?



Hillary and Ollie, the Schlomi twins

McGuffy


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qwertyuiop001 wrote:

How are you going to get pure oxygen into your engine? Are you going to put a tank of liquid oxygen next to your tank of liquid hydrogen?

I guess you really do like fire!



Oxygen does not burn.

DeFlanko


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FenStar wrote:

I don't know what to explain, it's still a combustion engine, just redesined to use hyrodgen and oxygen insted of gasolene, isn't it? I guess I don't understand it.




no i dont think it is... i think its a fusion engine... theyre saying the hydrogen goes to the battery cells which produce charge... that charge tansfers to the electric motor.. which the electric motor's (nothign more than and engine and a huge altinator.. will keep stedy charge the batteries..

fuel =water... (at least thats my scifi/dicovery channel theory)

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DeFlanko wrote:

<shakes head... > that was part of the joke...


If you read it closely enough, you might see that there is no octane IN the water, the water is FILTERED through the octane ;~}

There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

FenStar


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qwertyuiop001 wrote:

How are you going to get pure oxygen into your engine? Are you going to put a tank of liquid oxygen next to your tank of liquid hydrogen?

I guess you really do like fire!



Yea, I thought that's how you did it...
*runs out into garage to fix somthing*

Still single, can't imagine why.

qwertyuiop001


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McGuffy wrote:

If you consider nuclear reactions, any lower element is a "fuel". Just because it won't burn when you light a match doesn't mean there's not energy potential.

Steam engines rely heavily on water as a fuel. Yes, you have to burn something to create the steam, but using this logic, gasoline is solar power, because the animals that became the oil lived because of energy from the sun, right?



I wouldn't consider water as a fuel in a steam engine, because it isn't what the engine ate to get energy. There's a term for water in the steam engine: "working fluid."

Ultimately, yes, the gasoline got its energy from the sun. But if you look at just what the engine ate (air, coal, and water), there's one oxidizer, one fuel, and one working fluid.

gimme my damn monkey

McGuffy


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Winners are up. What a freaking joke of judging this week. I'm done w/contests for a while.

DeFlanko


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McGuffy wrote:

Oxygen does not burn.



I think you're fishing for the keyword/phrase "reactive gas" or "energetic gas".
Or some similar word we do not quite have.

Virtually all flames are the energetic reaction between a fuel and an oxidizer.
You understand rightly that both fuel and oxidizer are consumed, joined to create
something else.

But since we live in an oxygen background, oxidizer is usually naturally present.
Fire then becomes a likelihood only when fuel is added to your situation.
So we started saying "flammable gas" for a strong or hi-energy fuel gas.

Oxygen is a strong or hi-energy oxidizer, true,
but it is an oxidizer, so it is not a fuel, so they do not call it flammable.

Personally, I like your intuition better.
It is like a 1000v battery. It is all part of a dangerous thing.
No point in saying the negative terminal is not "High Voltage" just because it is not the
positive terminal.

Actually, oxygen is the positive terminal, and fuel is the negative terminal, in a fuel
cell.
A fuel cell runs the same reaction as fire, just better controlled.

The point is, "reaction" is a purely bipolar relationship.
Fire requires chemical opposites to happen.

As our use of technology grows, it seems that man's activities may at any time present us
with any hazardous situation imaginable within the laws of science,
regardless of its unlikelihood in natural surroundings.

We now have situations where fire starts because powdered oxidizers or pure liquid oxygen
is released into piles of fuel. Inverting the earlier natural situation of a fire.

So oxygen really is as distinctively important as fuel, in making fires.

Oxygen is almost as prominent as flammable gasses, on our safety signs at work.
In 100% concentration and under pressure, it is a "Hazardous Oxidizer".

source:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem03/chem03291.htm

qwertyuiop001


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McGuffy wrote:

Oxygen does not burn.



Nearly everything that comes into contact with the LOX when it spills out after a car accident will. LOX + asphalt = "contact explosive." And if both tanks rupture...

gimme my damn monkey

FenStar


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McGuffy wrote:

Oxygen does not burn.



?

I thought oxygen was the definition of a combustion reaction.

Still single, can't imagine why.

vagel


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McGuffy wrote:

Oxygen does not burn.



Tell that to the apollo 1 astronauts.

McGuffy


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FenStar wrote:

?

I thought oxygen was the definition of a combustion reaction.



Heat is released when oxygen reacts with another substance. Pure oxygen, in the absence of any other substance, will not ignite. IN the presence of a constant electrical spark, it will form O3 (ozone), but it won't "burn" as we think of burning.


EDIT: Allow me to qualify - Oxygen in it's natural state - O2 - won't ignite.

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Thanks to the fellas whove been chatting the last 3 pages.... gave me something to do at work.

Im a Wrambling Reck From Georgia Tech and Helluva an Engineer

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passynten wrote:Thanks to the fellas whove been chatting the last 3 pages.... gave me something to do at work.



welcome...

i thought the same about O2.. i figure id find a read on it befor i bash someone... turns out it makes sence...

FenStar


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passynten wrote:Thanks to the fellas whove been chatting the last 3 pages.... gave me something to do at work.



Ok, I vote we let wonderstew pick the top three!
Post the the three best here!
Although...

Still single, can't imagine why.

vagel


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DeFlanko wrote:

welcome...

i thought the same about O2.. i figure id find a read on it befor i bash someone... turns out it makes sence...



is this the same 'fact' that lets people say gasoline doesn't burn... only the vapors (which then have oxygen to catalyze the process?) That's probably meaningless to the guy who's burning... "It's not the gas that's burning you... it's the vapors... hang tight"

There is no spoon :/

FenStar


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FenStar wrote:

Ok, I vote we let wonderstew pick the top three!
Post the the three best here!
Although...



Click here

Still single, can't imagine why.

qwertyuiop001


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passynten wrote:Thanks to the fellas whove been chatting the last 3 pages.... gave me something to do at work.



Um...aren't, y'know, you supposed to be, like, working, y'know?

gimme my damn monkey

qwertyuiop001


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vagel wrote:There is no spoon :/



SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

-The Tick

gimme my damn monkey

Proteus_Crow


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qwertyuiop001 wrote:

Um...aren't, y'know, you supposed to be, like, working, y'know?



Give her a break, she's in Georgia. "Work" is relative here.

The Nobel Peace Prize?! I'd *KILL* for one of those!

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vagel wrote:

is this the same 'fact' that lets people say gasoline doesn't burn... only the vapors (which then have oxygen to catalyze the process?) That's probably meaningless to the guy who's burning... "It's not the gas that's burning you... it's the vapors... hang tight"

There is no spoon :/



The thing is, if you light a match in pure oxygen, the match will burn brighter with a bigger flame.
If you light a match in pure gasoline vapors, with some oxygen mixed in so it can burn, it'll explode in a huge ball of fire. There's a big difference.

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I'm scared........it glows...............

LOL Love the imagery though

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