26 in LCD Flat HDTV Monitor w/DVD

At Checkout apply 10%off Coupon Code : MADNESS-0307

= $395


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You guys should thank WOOT for giving you a form where you can brag mine is bigger than yours and I would not put up with this trash we dont know you and are not impressed you probably live in a trailer in Arkansas with your sister and a 56" 1080i,p super charged tv 5 million colors have you read Fahrenheit 451?

Any way I watch Tv so rarely that sometimes its a 13" VHS COMBO with rabit ears
and the old 27" works fine when I what to wach a movie.

sorry I just get tired of the bragging

Sorry its cheaper to buy a 20" monitor and add a tuner and TV and they'll all be new not refurbs.

colt0958 wrote:

Not even close. It's John Candy. I'm guessing from some time in the 80's.

It's John Candy doing his Johnny LaRue from SCTV.

I have this. It is AWESOME. I'd highly recommend it to anyone that is in the market for a TV. This thing is amazing.

I spent ALL weekend shopping for a 19-20" LCD HD tv for a 2nd bedroom, so I can tell you 2 things:

1) This is a good price, but not great. Especially for a refurb (rox0rz!). I bought a Westinghouse HD Ready LCD new for $296 @ Best Buy, with 1 year warranty. And, If I had gone close to $400...I would have had a lot more new choices.

2) The FCC date of 3/1/07 is not the date that all TV's in the store have to have built in HD Tuners. Believe me, there are PLENTY of non HD TV's and HD-Ready TVs and Monitors sitting on the store shelfs in multiple stores. And the employees told me that they'd be there until their stock sold out and the manufacturers finished shipping the stock that they already had. Could be some time before all the old stock is moved out.

Maybe some one can explain to me the real benefit of having a HD tuner built in? I've got the satellite people coming this afternoon to hook up my High Def. I've got one TV with a built in HD tuner, and one that is HD ready...and they both have to have the same HD satellite boxes to get high def programming. So, I'm not sure what the practical benefit is to me. I know that the built in tuner will allow me to get over the air HD broadcasts....but I doubt that I'm ever going to want to put up the special antenna that will let me get those broadcasts. Just like I haven't gotten regular TV broadcasts over the air in like 20 years. And, even if I did, aren't those just local HD channels, not the extra ones that satellite offers?

Is there new technology coming down the pike that is going to use the built-in tuner in a more integrated, practical way? If not....I'm not sure what the benefit is if you end up having the satellite/cable boxes attached anyway.

spanky wrote:

Quote me Book,chapter and verse of the report. The excessive use of !!!! seems to me that you are really sure. I'd like to know before I get one.

How about just reading the description. It says right there that there is NO HD TUNER.

littlequincy wrote:I spent ALL weekend shopping for a 19-20" LCD HD tv for a 2nd bedroom, so I can tell you 2 things:

1) This is a good price, but not great. Especially for a refurb (rox0rz!). I bought a Westinghouse HD Ready LCD new for $296 @ Best Buy, with 1 year warranty. And, If I had gone close to $400...I would have had a lot more new choices.

2) The FCC date of 3/1/07 is not the date that all TV's in the store have to have built in HD Tuners. Believe me, there are PLENTY of non HD TV's and HD-Ready TVs and Monitors sitting on the store shelfs in multiple stores. And the employees told me that they'd be there until their stock sold out and the manufacturers finished shipping the stock that they already had. Could be some time before all the old stock is moved out.

Maybe some one can explain to me the real benefit of having a HD tuner built in? I've got the satellite people coming this afternoon to hook up my High Def. I've got one TV with a built in HD tuner, and one that is HD ready...and they both have to have the same HD satellite boxes to get high def programming. So, I'm not sure what the practical benefit is to me. I know that the built in tuner will allow me to get over the air HD broadcasts....but I doubt that I'm ever going to want to put up the special antenna that will let me get those broadcasts. Just like I haven't gotten regular TV broadcasts over the air in like 20 years. And, even if I did, aren't those just local HD channels, not the extra ones that satellite offers?

Is there new technology coming down the pike that is going to use the built-in tuner in a more integrated, practical way? If not....I'm not sure what the benefit is if you end up having the satellite/cable boxes attached anyway.

I believe it's for over the air HD channels. I'd be trying to get them at my house since they're free, but so far no antenna has been able to pick up any. Satellite doesn't offer my local channels in HD. It would also apply to digital over regular cable without a cable box I think. Basically for the new stuff into the future you'll need one of these if you don't have a TV with built in digital tuner:

- Satellite box
- Digital cable box
- Digital tuner box

That's if I'm understanding it correctly. I know a lot of people have cable service but only regular cable (no box). I think those are the ones that need to be most concerned with getting a TV with built in digital tuner.

kpk021 wrote:

I believe it's for over the air HD channels. I'd be trying to get them at my house since they're free, but so far no antenna has been able to pick up any. Satellite doesn't offer my local channels in HD. It would also apply to digital over regular cable without a cable box I think. Basically for the new stuff into the future you'll need one of these if you don't have a TV with built in digital tuner:

- Satellite box
- Digital cable box
- Digital tuner box

That's if I'm understanding it correctly. I know a lot of people have cable service but only regular cable (no box). I think those are the ones that need to be most concerned with getting a TV with built in digital tuner.

digital tuner on your tv wont help you with your cable you will still need the digital box from cable company i think. Dont know of any cable without the box anymore.

only for over the air

I have the 32 inch version of this LCD in my bedroom and I paid $3200 for it two years ago, this one was about $799 back then. It has the best picture quality I found among all of the LCD's at BestBuy and that was important to me. Deep blacks, accurate color and quick response for my PS3 (thanks Woot!). So now this little guy is going to look great mounted in the back of my HUMMER for tailgate parties!

Yesterday's woot was better than this.

I, like many others here, will never buy another TV that has a built-in DVD player or VHS. I've had too many of the players die on me and when that happens, it's damn near impossible to fix. Nice price, I do need a new TV, but I'll pass.

Is this a good price if all you use it for is XBOX-360 or Wii games?

littlequincy wrote:Is there new technology coming down the pike that is going to use the built-in tuner in a more integrated, practical way? If not....I'm not sure what the benefit is if you end up having the satellite/cable boxes attached anyway.

You are correct. If you will be getting your digital/HD from a satellite or cable box, there is no need for a built-in ATSC tuner. That would only be for over-the-air broadcasts -- which, I agree, are not something that the average Joec ares about any more.

That being said, all I want are the networks in HD. Currently, there is no legal option for me to get them. The nearest tower that broadcasts digital is 50 miles from me. With a deep fringe antenna, I can sometimes pick it up once in a while -- but, that is only one network at best. I currently cannot get, say, ABC in HD no matter what I do.

Stupid, outdated DMA law crap...

- John...

littlequincy wrote:
Maybe some one can explain to me the real benefit of having a HD tuner built in? I've got the satellite people coming this afternoon to hook up my High Def.

<snip>

The only benefit is for those that want OTA HD signals. Anyone that wants premium content from a Dish or Cable network will continue to use a settop box...until the CableCard standard catches on and that's in more TVs anyway.

tjrbidder wrote:Is this a good price if all you use it for is XBOX-360 or Wii games?

Not really. If all you would use it for were consoles, you can probably get something cheaper. Heck, you could get a decent 20" LCD monitor for around $200 and just use VGA cables (at least from the 360 -- I assume that there are VGA cables for the Wii, but I don't know that for certain) and you'd be fine.

- John...

yikes - another refurb (rox0rz!). My computer monitor is bigger and better...

WOOT! - I NEED A ROOMBA DIRT DOG for my garage and a WOOT-OFF!!!!! - ACK! HELP!

WhtHawk wrote:When did 768 become equal to 720? Looks like an opportunity for another low quality re-sizing chip to distort everything you want to watch.

Pass, night all.

HD in 720p is 1280x720. This TV supports more than that. The intelligent thing to do would be to not use the extra pixels and just show it in full 1280x720. If they are scaling the 720p to 768, then, yes, I agree with you. I guess I'd be hoping that they were not dumb enough to do that...

- John...

TheMonk wrote:You guys should thank WOOT for giving you a form where you can brag mine is bigger than yours (blah blah blah deleted) sorry I just get tired of the bragging

Try suffering in silence, then.

beerbellybob wrote:Is that kid getting a lap dance?

John Candy also in Pic so what film is it?

TheNewton wrote:

It's John Candy doing his Johnny LaRue from SCTV.

And Johnny LaRue is who? I know SCTV but what's with the character?

This TV is perfect for the bathroom when you just sitting there and relaxing if you know what I mean :-D

Brightness and contrast ratings would help and a built-in DIGITAL tuner would allow you to get NBC,ABC,CBS,FOX and a few other over tha air HD broadcast for free so you don't need to pay extra from your satellite provider. You need to live within a reasonable distance,about 25 miles, of the broadcaster but the HD antenna does not need to be mounted outdoors is small and you can buy one for $10 to $30.

The over-the-air HD broadcasts are not compressed the way they are over cable or satellite. Having a HD tuner is a good thing - you can get a much improved picture if you invest in the OTA antenna and pick up the local networks that way.

oddsbeater1 wrote: And Johnny LaRue is who? I know SCTV but what's with the character?

Johnny LaRue was a chain smoking, hard drinking washed up former star that would do just about anything to stay in front of the camera. He would do various small time productions, like a Mr. Science show where he made coffee, or an exercise show, working out by opening the fridge door, Dining with LaRue, LaRue by Night, there were quite a number of these bits if you search out old SCTV stuff.

jjcool wrote:

Amen to that. Never buy combination components. Much better off buying seperate pieces.

Somebody better tell Apple, Inc., and quick.

jklyank wrote:Built in DVD player is not a good idea. Refurbished again? Should rename this site Refurbville!

With few exceptions, WOOT is a clearance site! What part of that don't you get?

Woot only seems to watch movies that are old or bad enough that the owner would never complain about copyrights. lol

Can anyone tell me the difference between the 20HLV16 and the 20HLV86? (other than the number and minor physical difference).
I own a 20HLV86 and I'm satisfied with it so far - about 1 month of use.

Thanks for the info on the built-in HD tuner guys

Can I utilize this as an external monitor for a Mac Book Pro?

jplonmars wrote:

it doesn't hurt to have it as a backup thought......
consider my case...i have a LCD TV as my computer monitor

Been always play DVD thru my computer
one day my computer die.....had to reformat /reinstall....i caN'T WATCH DVD while doing re-install because my LCD TV does not have built in dvd.....i had to move my laptop from the other room to get this setup......

and oh...my wife always complain that computer is too noisy when she watch DVD on my 32" LCD TV/monitor while in our bedroom.........

Thats exactly my point. If you had had a seperate dvd player you wouldnt have had that problem. My parents have a combo dvd/vcr about a year ago that is a bit finicky. my seperate player that is vintage 97 is still going strong without any problems.

koeper5 wrote:Who the heck watches a 20" TV? That is the size of a computer screen!

i agree. Also if one of the other breaks down then you're screwed.

Well, the fact that Johnny LaRue and his Gerbils are on the screen is almost enough to make me buy one...

TheMonk wrote:You guys should thank WOOT for giving you a form where you can brag mine is bigger than yours and I would not put up with this trash we dont know you and are not impressed you probably live in a trailer in Arkansas with your sister and a 56" 1080i,p super charged tv 5 million colors have you read Fahrenheit 451?

Any way I watch Tv so rarely that sometimes its a 13" VHS COMBO with rabit ears
and the old 27" works fine when I what to wach a movie.

sorry I just get tired of the bragging

ummmm, huh?

dhoffman98 wrote:

How about just reading the description. It says right there that there is NO HD TUNER.

I read the description. That is not the point I was trying to make.
REF: From http://www.electrical.bureauveritas.com/fcc-faq-digital-tv.html

"......Is there a phase in or grace period on this March 1, 2007 date?

No. They take effect on that date. The rules ban import and sale across state lines, including internet and catalog sale. Retailers can ship within state warehouses to retail to clear inventory. Retailers cannot import TV’s without digital tuners, even if they have taken ownership of them starting on or after March 1, 2007. ..."

TheMonk wrote:Any way I watch Tv so rarely that sometimes its a 13" VHS COMBO with rabit ears and the old 27" works fine when I what to wach a movie...

I thought monks didn't watch TV at all.

Ever wonder why there are so many Toshiba refurbs to sell like this? Toshiba is famous for manufacturing low-quality products that end up having to be sold as refurbs (check any refurb (rox0rz!)-only outlet and you'll see 60-70% Toshibas). Also, this seems a bit steep to me; given that you can now get new 37" LCDS for under 600 (by makers like Olevia), this doesn't make much economic sense, unless you're limited by space to a small LCD. Still, I wouldn't buy it.

I'm just an SD man living in an HD world...

Different idea: How about using this as a digital picture frame?

Digital picture frames currently go for about $100 for a 7" screen. If this baby plays jpgs, that's 20" for $350. Seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me (at least until the DVD player breaks).

Just buy it and set it to cycle through photos all day.

And maybe hook it up to the PS2 if the kid wants to play a video game while you watch the Phoenix Suns on the big screen.

jessiebyrd004 wrote:useful linkage blog is in the hizzy tonight... sorry i missed the discussion yesterday... had stuff... anyways... this woot is ight.

The posts for your blog r getting odder by the day. Love it.