wynn05 wrote:Dont bother buying a Westinghouse TV. I was at best buy the other day looking for a TV and one of the sales guys told the other one "Well, we broke last months record." I then asked the sales guy talking "For what? Sales?" He then said to me "Nope, westinghouse brand TVs returned, let me tell you, it seems like we get back even more than we sell!" For a sales person on commission to admit that, its gotta be crappy.

They don't work on commision.

lorraines wrote:

You are joking, right?

If not, then I have some synthetic blinker fluid for sale for your car CHEAP!

Now THAT'S funny!

I bought a 32" Westinghouse 8 months ago and 0 problems

great TVs at a great price!!

Here's a valid point....People that are looking for just a TV forget about it. A 1080p television monitor can be used for a TV and receive a HiDef signal if used in conjunction with a box or other type of receiver. Most would say that to utilized this TV a blu-ray or HDdvd player would have to be use, but i say that why not hook it up to a computer and expand your options. Movies, Games, Internet, or maybe even some work can be done. All you need is a computer with enough balls to produce a 1920x1080 pic.....Hell a Mac mini can do this (or PC that cost say an estimate of $300 + maybe a decent video card and enough memory)..... hint hint. Oh and you get the benefits of a DVI connection.......Great picture and No loss is signal, and for those who want can even look at some hidef porn at a click of a button. So expand your Techno geek urges and buy one, it would definitely be worth your while. Wii

lorraines wrote:
Like it? User friendly?

I might grab the 103 inch Panasonic plasma up later on.
(after it drops 50 grand)

Yeah it's ok - but you can honestly just do it yourself. Tune it in to how YOU like it, that's really all that matters. Just be cautious of how high your brightness and contrast is and you'll be fine.

I HATE WORST BUY!

younggogetter wrote:

Yeah it's ok - but you can honestly just do it yourself. Tune it in to how YOU like it, that's really all that matters. Just be cautious of how high your brightness and contrast is and you'll be fine.

What type of plasma do you have?

I have the Panasonic TH42PX600U
I turned the "torch" mode off as soon as I got it (VIVID mode)
I zeroed out all the settings for first 100 hours.

The thing is amazing. Optimum cable is the feed.
PBS HD is breathtaking.

vidur87 wrote:I was wondering if anyone knew what Standard definition looked like on this TV i was looking into the 37LVM abd when i went to best buy to see what it looks like the HD looked awesome but the SD looked like a woot monkey run over by a 18 wheeler (hits every wheel and cries for the first 10.) Any suggestion guys. Also the reason i want decent SD is because not all channels come in HD and I have a rather large DVD collection and i don't have an upconverting player. I don't think it's worth it to go and buy 600 dollars to watch HD content from a disc. To each his own.

SD cable looks pretty good on this tv. how the standard cable looks was one of my biggest concerns when i got this exact tv. i had seen so many lcds that looked like crap when on cable. this unit was one of the best, if not the best, looking that i have seen for sd cable. i cant say for sure about the dvd thing. i have one of those upconverting/divx dvd players. i would say regular dvds would look very good, at least i cant figure out how cable can look good but dvds wouldnt

I own one and use it as a computer monitor. It's pretty awesome if you have a video card that can push it at the native res. I'm not the only one either, I know 6 other people who use them as monitors (well, one has the 37"). And we paid a hell of a lot more than what woot is asking. I'm still paying for mine The port layout of these screens are great. Very easy to get at no matter where it is. The connectivity is awesome as well. Two DVI, one HDMI, VGA, two component, and a set of composite inputs. Plus, the HDMI and DVI ports are HDCP compliant.

Someone did bring up an issue that the screen would "lock-up" and become unresponsive until the power cable was yanked. It was an issue on earlier firmwares but not on the newer ones.

As a satisfied owner for almost a year, my only complaint is that the bezel could have been prettier.

gcadidas13 wrote:Best Buy employees are not on commission.

It's amazing isnt it? As a best buy employee...one of our things we are taught to land is the "we are not commissioned" statement because all the r-tards out there immediately think we are out there to screw them. if you wanna know the secret to shopping at best buy, here it is:
buy your big products there (tv, computer, reciever, etc)
and buy your cabling and accessories elsewhere
why? because accessories have the HIGHEST markup out there. in fact, thats what these companies make their money on. you think your $120 4ft hdmi cable from bby costs the company even a 1/4 of that? lol, you would doody your pants if you new the markup on usb cables... $35 dollars for a 6ft usb printer cable, and printers dont come with the cables...hmm...interesting eh? So yea, take it or leave it.

BTW- this tv is an awesome deal - and for those of you complaining that there is no tv tuner....shutup your an idiot. you shouldnt buy the tv if you dont have cable, you have bigger fish to fry...like catching up with the world and getting a cable box(which comes with the HD tuner that your 'lacking' built into it r-tards). It seems that these tv manufacturers have gotten smarter by NOT including the tuner and dropping the prices on these suckers. i mean, who REALLY needs a tuner? does your cable company really suck that bad?

This tv comes with a NATIVE 1920 res for TRU HD...at 1080p too, they didnt go lame and cap it at 1080i. LCD imho is better than plasma just because it doesnt burn in like a plasma. Cnet reviews are pretty good on this tv as well. For the size and specs this tv is priced better than most (if not all) with same/similiar specs i would assume. As far as connectivity:
PS3 - HDMI
Cable - Component
Xbox- component
Computer - DVI
seems like its got enough connections to me...even though the cable is in component, you wouldnt be able to truely tell the difference unless you have robot eyes.

problems i have with this tv -
90 day warrantee.... :-P
i heard of some querky HDMI/PS3 handshaking issues. nothing too crazy, just that it takes a little longer for the hdcp handshaking process to occur with this screen (an extra 5 seconds of blackness apparently, o noes!)

just my humble .02

Would it be reasonable to pass on this refurb (rox0rz!) in order to get a NEW model?? I'm seeing this NEW for $250 more on another website. Is it worth it to pay an extra $250 for the manufacturer's warranty?

gboarder wrote:Would it be reasonable to pass on this refurb (rox0rz!) in order to get a NEW model?? I'm seeing this NEW for $250 more on another website. Is it worth it to pay an extra $250 for the manufacturer's warranty?

what are shipping costs? will there be taxes added on to the final purchase? are you looking to get an extended warrantee as well? these are valid questions as you could end up spending $2000 on a $1300 tv in no time....

This just caught my eye as a step down alternative for less $$ but brand new . . .
ViewSonic N4060W 40" Widescreen LCD HDTV - 1000:1, 8ms, 1360x768 - DVI
for 899.95 delivered after $200. rebate.
Not quite the resolution as the westi but is HD and 40" LCD.
can be seen at:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202610951&adid=17653&dcaid=17653
Again - not to compare specs to specs but a lot less $$ for a new HDTV with free ship.
.02 for now

cabanathursdays wrote:

SD cable looks pretty good on this tv. how the standard cable looks was one of my biggest concerns when i got this exact tv. i had seen so many lcds that looked like crap when on cable. this unit was one of the best, if not the best, looking that i have seen for sd cable. i cant say for sure about the dvd thing. i have one of those upconverting/divx dvd players. i would say regular dvds would look very good, at least i cant figure out how cable can look good but dvds wouldnt

thanks for the help .... I have a dell 42inch plasma in my living room and SD looks great on it this is for my bed room so ill be a fair distance away, hopefully it will be good enough ... and BUY

shockz wrote:

It's amazing isnt it? As a best buy employee...one of our things we are taught to land is the "we are not commissioned" statement because all the r-tards out there immediately think we are out there to screw them. if you wanna know the secret to shopping at best buy, here it is:
buy your big products there (tv, computer, reciever, etc)
and buy your cabling and accessories elsewhere
why? because accessories have the HIGHEST markup out there. in fact, thats what these companies make their money on. you think your $120 4ft hdmi cable from bby costs the company even a 1/4 of that? lol, you would doody your pants if you new the markup on usb cables... $35 dollars for a 6ft usb printer cable, and printers dont come with the cables...hmm...interesting eh? So yea, take it or leave it.

This guy is spot on with this part.

LCD imho is better than plasma just because it doesnt burn in like a plasma.

So that is YOUR sole reason for a LCD being better?
It's pretty much fact plasmas have deeper blacks and much richer color.
Plasmas do not have burn in issues like they used to, as a Worst Buy employee you should know that ;)
Then again that all depends on the consumer and how they treat it. So you are half right

Xbox- component

The new XBOX Elite has HDMI

engineire wrote:This just caught my eye as a step down alternative for less $$ but brand new . . .
ViewSonic N4060W 40" Widescreen LCD HDTV - 1000:1, 8ms, 1360x768 - DVI
for 899.95 delivered after $200. rebate.
Not quite the resolution as the westi but is HD and 40" LCD.
can be seen at:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202610951&adid=17653&dcaid=17653
Again - not to compare specs to specs but a lot less $$ for a new HDTV with free ship.
.02 for now

that resolution drop is EVERYTHING. resolution drop = big price drop when your talking about 1080p here.

shockz wrote:
BTW- this tv is an awesome deal - and for those of you complaining that there is no tv tuner....shutup your an idiot. you shouldnt buy the tv if you dont have cable, you have bigger fish to fry...like catching up with the world and getting a cable box(which comes with the HD tuner that your 'lacking' built into it r-tards). It seems that these tv manufacturers have gotten smarter by NOT including the tuner and dropping the prices on these suckers. i mean, who REALLY needs a tuner? does your cable company really suck that bad?

just my humble .02

Hey r-tard how can you say this is an awesome deal? Its a refurb (rox0rz!)!!! not to mention that just this morning I was in a best buy and saw a 1080p LCD for $1100 new with a year warranty. But lets be honest if its not plasma its not ballin! Go to my store (walmart) and you can get a 1080i plasma for the same price with a built in tuner!!! Everyone knows that a 1080i plasma is still better than a 1080p lcd.

younggogetter wrote:



I HATE WORST BUY!

AMEN!!!!!!! Avoid it like the plague. I will never buy anything from them ever again.

lorraines wrote:
The new XBOX Elite has HDMI

yea the burn in feature is my only reason to go LCD as i tend to....forget about things sometimes. damn the pot. but xbox360 has an elite version now?!?!? no wai! thats pretty damn ribs...surprised i missed that on xboxscene.com. Damn work been keeping me busy it seems.

shockz wrote:

what are shipping costs? will there be taxes added on to the final purchase? are you looking to get an extended warrantee as well? these are valid questions as you could end up spending $2000 on a $1300 tv in no time....

Free shipping..Also there is a 3 yr extended warranty for $150. I'm not sure on the taxes...Here's a link....http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?item=3W110T

shockz wrote:

yea the burn in feature is my only reason to go LCD as i tend to....forget about things sometimes. damn the pot. but xbox360 has an elite version now?!?!? no wai! thats pretty damn ribs...surprised i missed that on xboxscene.com. Damn work been keeping me busy it seems.

HDMI
Black in color
120 gig HD

Not bad for $80.00 more. ($480.00)

BTW: burn in on plasmas is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
IR is what happens mostly but rarely. I never had either.

lorraines wrote:
HDMI
Black in color
120 gig HD

Not bad for $80.00 more. ($480.00)

i guess ill have to buy all the overheating xboxs on craigslist again and perform my special "fix" (which works 100% of the time so far) so i can upgrade my own now outdated 360. lol

shockz wrote:

i guess ill have to buy all the overheating xboxs on craigslist again and perform my special "fix" (which works 100% of the time so far) so i can upgrade my own now outdated 360. lol

What's the fix?

younggogetter wrote:

What's the fix?

if i told you then i wouldnt have a niche in the market would i ;-)

shockz wrote:

i guess ill have to buy all the overheating xboxs on craigslist again and perform my special "fix" (which works 100% of the time so far) so i can upgrade my own now outdated 360. lol

The next 360 will have the 65nm chip (vs the current 90nm)
Supposed to run a lot cooler and cost less money.
Not sure when THAT will happen though. Sometime after all the Elite's are gone I hear.

I was sooo tempted to buy this, until I remembered the headaches that I had with the last refurbished item I bought from Woot. It was most definately not (r0xers)!

Has anyone ever tried this site before ??? New for $900. not sure of ship though.
the catch is you have to participate with 3 sponsors promotions - some free though.

http://www.halfmania.com/Browse/Product/?pid=8325&dmid=

anybody done this ? deal too good to be true ?
just checkin' around

Funny. Before I read the description, I was thinking I should email my dad as a joke, and hit him up for a loan so I could buy this TV! Knowing of course that he would laugh his a-- off before he told me to go fly a kite in a windstorm. Funny that this was what started the item description. Mom i need to borrow some money...

Xplosonhed wrote:1080p? damn, is it I or P that is better? Any one of you more tech minded folks offer up an explanation?

1080p is true HD

1080i is equivalent to 480p

So since it has no tuner so what.....

You need a cablebox anyway to watch HD on it right?
You need a DVD palyer to watch DVDs right?

Seriously who has an 1080p tv that DOESNT have it plugged into a cable box?

Titanium400 wrote:

Why the heck would you buy a 1080p to watch regular over the air broadcast? It's mainly to watch HD format video. If you want regular broadcast, your local cable company provides it on their basic package, which you may want along with their HD package.

assume he meant over the air hd broadcasts

DJ69 wrote:

Can I have what you are smoking please?

over the air hd broadcasts.
whats so difficult to understand here?

So the Plasma Vs. LCD Vs. DLP wars come to Woot.com....

So much misinformation on this thread.

Seems like a decent price for a non premier brant 1080P capable TV. The deal coming perhaps a few weeks before major price drops across the board in order to make room for this year's latest and greatest.

Anybody tallking Plasma Vs. LCD within the context of "long term" is seriously full of it. (special points to the guy who talked about replacing the plasma gas though, that was pretty funny). Neither of these technologies will be a first choice ten years from now. Possibly even five years from now. My money is on OLED TV's but there are others in the pipeline which will are better then Plasma or LCD.

LCD will win this localized skirmish ultimately because the picture is not as terrible as it used to be and the gap in picture quality which does exist, is now prety small. The diffrenece is that Plasma weighs about twice as much and consumes about twice as much power. That makes them more expensive to run for consumers and more expensive at all points in the manufacturing through retail channel. Economics will win the day. For now, until there is something better, which there will be.

If you don't mind not being able to wall mount your TV and possibly watching TV in a slightly darkened room for best results then DLP probably has the best picture of all right now. Certainly the best bang-for-the-buck picture.

This deal from woot is a good deal but maybe not a great deal. I am waiting for a 50 inch Samsung Plasma (non 1080P) to get dirt cheap.

biggdunc wrote:

1080p is true HD

1080i is equivalent to 480p

Serious?? For real where did you get this misonformation? 480p isn't even widescreen. Do everyone a favor and stop spreading lies, not ribs dude. 1440 is the true HD.

TehCaspia wrote:Aren't all new tvs required to have HD tuners by now? this thing is just SAD

The truth is that most people have HDTV also have a HD tuner either with their cable or satellite providers. Build-in HD tunners are typically pretty weak. Even with a strong HDTV antenna, your reception will be affected by whoever is walking by, direction of the antenna, wind strength, nearest mountains, distance from the HD towers, and sensitivity of the tuner. Trust me, I have tried it and have gave up. To get the OTA HD channels to a reasonable level is a pain in the a$$. I now have an HD cable receiver and quality is stable and far superior. So don't be put off by the lack of tuner.

Oh, it works prefectly as an computer monitor @ 1900x1200 resolution. But due to the distance you sit away from the monitor, texts are hard to see. Prepare to use that "zoom in" key a lot.

I got mine for about $2200 new. This is a steal @ $1k. But it is refurbished. That is my biggest concern.

Between Best Buy and Cicuit Sh*itty, I'll take Best Buy every time... (just not for cables, ink, toner and the like).

had one of these got it from best buy for 999 -.- 1080p monitor for 1000 bucks great deal right?

it did work great with my ps3 using component cables for about a month. HDMI never worked. then it broke screen kept turning off. took it back to best buy, they replaced it..... another month, broken again.

now i have a 50" samsung have not had one problem with it.

this tv is good for one thing only. watching TV or using for a computer monitor.

oh ya.... the picture by picture (PBP) is ribs too, you can play splitscreen

i had my ps3 and ps2 and we played splitscreen gran tourismo for fastest lap time.
and playing spitscreen FFXI

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i wouldn't recommend using it for a PS3 or utilizing the 1080p. that is when it seemed to have problems.

you may have better luck than me. and i hope you do =)

DJ69 wrote:

I never said DLP's were "troublesome" I said they were the lowest order of HD.
The viewing angle SUCKS, rainbow effects and bulb replacement all work against a DLP set.
Again, its a poor mans HD set. Nothing wrong with it if you are on a budget.

Please let me know whether I should buy a Ford, Chevy or Dodge for my new truck. I'm a very poor sole...

a4624ever wrote:


There is no set top box required when the television is equiped with a built-in ATSC tuner and a cablecard slot. Expect that configuration to be the norm within the next year. A set top box is required only for interactive channels and pay-per-view channels. An advanced cablecard with interactive capability is in development and will eventually replace the set top box.

ATSC tuner has NOTHING to do with the cablecard slot. The cablecard slot is to replace the cable box. Cable companies have not really caught onto this and newer tv's coming out don't even come with the slot anymore.

The tuner is ONLY for receiving signal over the air. There is no need for that if you have a cable box, which everyone is gonna have anyway.

The only (small) reason I see for having a turner is for local channels if you have satellite.

I think the build in tuner is a little (maybe even a LOT) overrated.

If I can find it again I will try to find the article about cablecards slots I found. I think it was on CNET.

is this monitor factory refurbished or refurbished by a private company?

terpz wrote:

ATSC tuner has NOTHING to do with the cablecard slot. The cablecard slot is to replace the cable box. Cable companies have not really caught onto this and newer tv's coming out don't even come with the slot anymore.

The tuner is ONLY for receiving signal over the air. There is no need for that if you have a cable box, which everyone is gonna have anyway.

The only (small) reason I see for having a turner is for local channels if you have satellite.

I think the build in tuner is a little (maybe even a LOT) overrated.

If I can find it again I will try to find the article about cablecards slots I found. I think it was on CNET.

100% correct! i work for a cable company and it is always a battle when trying to explain this to customers that dont have all the right information about the cable card and set top boxes (STB).

every customer that has demanded a cable card from us has had nothing but problems. i would say they work 70% of the time. judging by the weekly calls