bthackne wrote:I have no comments on the tv as it is clearly amazing... however Rachel Ray is everything and so much more that the podcast tries to convey!! I <3 Rachel Ray :-)
Does anyone else agree that she is a serious hottie?

If you like girls built like little boys.

inyearstocome wrote:who cares about a TV tuner? you need an NTSC set top box to recieve HD over cable anyway, and that turns this into a 1080p HDTV. Only benefit of an ATSC tuner is for over-air broadcasts.

If your TV has a QAM tuner you can pick up HD over cable without a Set Top Box for FREE. do a search for "QAM" and your city/region on avsforum.com for the channel/subchannels.

I bought one of these TVs last year and absolutely hated it. If you search the web, you'll find I was not the only one with these problems and WestingHouse support was anything but helpful. Regularly (not occassionally), the TV would become unresponsive to anything pressed on the remote or the buttons on the TV itself. I could nto change the channel, volume or even power it off. The only solution was to pull the plug on it and then plug it back in. Their support would tell me that a technician would come out to replace something or other or upgrade firmware and I'd have a call form their outsourced technicians within 48 hours. A week went by with no call. I called back and was told a technician would again be in touch in 48 hours. Weeks and months went by before I called abck again. Same info: A tech will call me in 48 hours. Another week and still no call. Luckily, I bought this at Best Buy and simply returned it for an LG I am having no problems with whatsoever. Dont buy this piece of poop.

Darkminstrel wrote:Where's the feet??? Is that a squid set in the Matrix dojo scene??

That was my thought HAHAHAHA

I bought one of these retail last August for $1,800. We love it. Fantastic picture. So what if it doesn't have a TV tuner! We have it hooked up to a digital HD cable box -- it's SWEET!!

I bought a 27" Westinghouse on a woot side deal from ecost with HD tuner, and monitor port. It is refurb (rox0rz!), looked new, well packaged, only had a small refurb (rox0rz!) sticker on back. Very happy with the set. I paid 299$ When I tried to set up my tivo remote I noticed the Westinghouse code was not working. I found that the sony code works wth it. Is sony in this mix?

hate to pee on the parade, but... Isn't $899.98, shipped, brand new a better deal???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889234005&ATT=89-234-005&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

Yankees368 wrote:Good Woot....Good Night

Froogle Link Minimum Price $1,179.00

Yahoo! Shopping Link Minimum Price $1,197.00

Shopzilla Link Minimum Price $1,219.95

never mind

G.d.dmnt.... At least this is a roxorz!


I just bought one of these from NewEgg (new though), for $350 more after shipping, a couple weeks ago.

So far I'm really happy with it. Really nice picture, very bright so it's easily visible during the day. There is a bit of an issue with blacks not being really black, but it's close enough to not matter IMO. Lots of inputs on the monitor, and in rather convenient locations (the sides of the column on the back, rather than the actual back).

Only complaints I have:

All the inputs are relatively hi-def. No coax in, no tuners, no composite (R/W/Y), only one S-Video.

Some of the options are a bit annoying to get to in the menus, largely due to a lag time in menu response, also largely due to the remote wasting buttons on a full number pad rather than putting things like PIP Source or Backlight +/- on the remote. Also, it's minor, but something I hadn't thought of until I had the TV out: I had my surround-sound center channel sitting on top of my old CRT TV, which worked fine. Wouldn't exactly work on top of this thin LCD, so I placed it on the cabinet in front of the TV's base, which seems to work fine, but does a pretty good job of blocking the remote's IR sensor.

I've had trouble with getting the first DVI port to recognize my PC, and even on the 2nd DVI port I've noticed some odd behavior: Sometimes the display has a hard time detecting a signal when Vista comes back from sleep/hibernate (I get a No Signal message, but CTRL+ALT+DEL brings the shutdown/task manager menu up on screen. Of course, just exiting that menu (and returning to the desktop) brings back the No Signal message for some inane reason.) but that could be a Vista problem.) Also, when starting the monitor on DVI 2 I'll often get about 1-2 minutes of the display flickering off and on (in both Vista and Ubuntu). After that, it's fine, even if switching back and forth between inputs, and it only happens for DVI, but it's still annoying.

toneware wrote:hate to pee on the parade, but... Isn't $899.98, shipped, brand new a better deal???

That's not the same TV/Monitor (that one's 720p)

NEW for $300more @ J and R music world...........nah

BEWARE 11 I bought the 61 infocus and it came with missing parts, filthy, and goo on the screen. Make sure you e-mail and get the facts before you spend$$$
REFURBISHED !!!! is not new !!!

In all fairness Woot did offer to refund and it was kina not their fault

DJ69 wrote:
Quoted for truth!

Anyone who says LCD is better than Plasma is either lying and experiencing buyers remorse or just plain uninformed.

I'd have to agree on that. To me, plasma TV look best by far. Better than DLP and LCD. DLP would come in second so long as you can't notice the so called rainbow effect. That's for picture quality. LCD (normal LCD, not rear projection lcd) has the size advantage in that one person can easily handle even the bigger screens. Rear projection (both DLP and LCD) offer the best value for screen size for the money. Both have replaceable bulbs. Plasma has the downside of a more limited lifetime like regular CRT screens, since it's the same basic technology. Plasma also uses a whole lot more power.

But personally the colors look much more natural on plasma. I bought a new LCD TV recently mostly for convenience of space. It does look very good (and a big improvement over my last TV, but the picture doesn't seem as lifelike as on the plasma screens I looked at. Although I do see plenty enough detail to see how excessively compressed satellite signals are. I don't know how they get away with calling that quality TV. Maybe if I were watching it on a 20" TV from across the room I wouldn't notice.

You can buy it new for only 200 more bucks. This is not any kind of great deal. Get the price down around 800 bucks and it would be interesting..(as in I'd jump on it!!!!)...Oh well, I NEVER seem to get the really good deals, I would have to be up at 1 AM my time to see the new woot for the day and I am usually asleep for 2 hours before that!
Oh Well,

paulhtck wrote:From the movie "The Cephalo-matrix", right before young Neo-squid has his first combat lesson, which ends with the famous tag line, "Forewarned may be forearmed, but eight-armed beats the crap out of just about anyone."

I'm pretty sure that's from "Calamari Wrestler".

1000:1 contrast is the indusry lowest when most are 3-4000:1

No thanks woot...

toneware wrote:hate to pee on the parade, but... Isn't $899.98, shipped, brand new a better deal???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889234005&ATT=89-234-005&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

That one as has already been noted is the 720p model. Also, it's the black one whereas this one is black/silver (the silver at the base and bottom left and right sections).

How can you manage to find that one without noticing the correct product at Newegg to match this Woot? Searching for Westinghouse only brought up two 42" TVs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889234002

$1299 + $99 shipping. New, though.

LoadStar wrote:I'd be tempted if an extended warranty were offered as an optional add-on... but refurbished and 90 day warranty just ain't gonna cut it in my book.

Ditto my brother. I'm just too nervous spending that kind of $$$ with only a 90 day warranty - otherwise this is a pretty good deal. I've been researching TV's a lot lately and just ordered my choice yesterday for about the same price as this: Olevia 542i 42". It's only 1080i, but not a refurb (rox0rz!), has a tuner, and Olevia has in-home service with option to extend to 4 years! Sold!

TehCaspia wrote:
Which is better, plasma/LCD:

LCD by FAR. They are MUCH cheaper in price, last decades longer, the bulbs are much cheaper, and they last longer too...AND most importantly, burn in almost never happens, whereas with plasma youll have trouble.

LCD is better because of plasma's heat issues, burn-in, somewhat shorter lifespan. However plasma isn't as terrible as it used to be and they are definitely still cheaper on average than a comparable LCD.

Is this the same television that Best Buy is offering for $999? (Sale Price)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8114541&type=product&id=1158318442758

burnsk73 wrote:Well, actually cheaper now.


http://www2.shopping.com/xPO-LG-42PC3DC

Ummm, I have the 50" version of this same tv with a dvr built in, but it's only 720p native and can handle 1080i. It's NOt by any means a 1080p plasma.

eh, this was addressed earlier. I didn't read it all before replying. So anyway...

With that said, I LOOOOOOVE my 50" Plasma LG. As for burn in, it has a built in function that will shift the screen 2 pixels either up, down, left or right every 2 minutes. I have NO burn in problems. If you get a plasma, look for burn in prevention methods. I can also turn it so it will turn the screen black every like 30 minutes, or white wash it or invert the picture, so if you are smart, there won't be any problems with burn in.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8254355&st=LG+Plasma&type=product&id=1169512522404

this is my model EXCEPT mine has a built in 250gb DVR. I paid 2200 for it, which was less than cost to best buy. I tried to get rc willey to match it and they said they couldn't because it was below the price they paid. Then the best buy employees were talking about how they were loosing money on it. I scored a dman good deal I think, considering I actually got it for less than cost to retailers.

But the sucker is HEAVY as hell.

I think the squid was done by the same porter that folded the towel on our last cruise

discountsam wrote:1000:1 contrast is the indusry lowest when most are 3-4000:1

No thanks woot...

Contrast ratios are not regulated or put to any kind of standard. Really the only comparison you can do with TVs are within the manufacturer's own models. And sometimes those can't even be trusted.

watch out. contrast ratio is only 1000:1

ngilland wrote:Is this the same television that Best Buy is offering for $999? (Sale Price)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8114541&type=product&id=1158318442758

No, note the model numbers. Best Buy has the 720p W4207, and woot is selling the 1080p 42W2

thesamurai wrote:Damnit! If Westinghouse would only build TV tuners into their sets.... they'd sell the most sets of any company. This is a bangin price for a 1080p set!

Very few people use built in tuners. I have DirectV HD and other people use digitial cable boxes, who watchs over airways TV?

toneware wrote:hate to pee on the parade, but... Isn't $899.98, shipped, brand new a better deal???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889234005&ATT=89-234-005&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

It would be, if it was an even remotely similar set. Since it isn't, it's not.

Why is everybody clamoring for a tuner? I thought all you woot guys were so cutting edge. Doesn't a tuner imply you are using an antenna? ewww. Who really receives HD over the air anyway?

PunditGonzo wrote:refurb (rox0rz!)...any thoughts on this one?

I got my brand new 47" Westinghouse with HD tuner at Sam's Club for $1600.

ldreher wrote:Why is everybody clamoring for a tuner? I thought all you woot guys were so cutting edge. Doesn't a tuner imply you are using an antenna? ewww. Who really receives HD over the air anyway?

People like us.

troncoso wrote:Much too expensive. I got my 47" Westinghouse with HD tuner at Sam's for $1600.

If you're talking about the LVM-47W1, those do not come with tuners at all. Unless you mean that you bought the 47W1 and a HD tuner at Sams.

I had the 32 inch westinghouse that I bought at Worst-Buy and I took it back after 3 hours... the speakers rattled and the HDMI input board was fried. Best buy told me that they were returned more than any other TV. They upgraded me to the HP model for $25 more, and it is a great TV

don't forget 8 miliseconds refresh rate will case draging on live action tv

troncoso wrote:Much too expensive. I got my 47" Westinghouse with HD tuner at Sam's for $1600.

Except all the Westys with internal tuners are 768p, half the resolution of this set. This set lists for and typically sells for $300 less than yours, so $1300 would be a good price new. An additional $250 off for a refurb (rox0rz!) isn't the deal of the century, but it's not exactly a bad price either.

troncoso wrote:I got my brand new 47" Westinghouse with HD tuner at Sam's Club for $1600.

So IF the one you got is actually 1080p, you basically paid 600 bucks for a tuner. Or 400 if you bought this one new.

Rip.

ldreher wrote:Why is everybody clamoring for a tuner? I thought all you woot guys were so cutting edge. Doesn't a tuner imply you are using an antenna? ewww. Who really receives HD over the air anyway?

Someone who doesn't want to view overly compressed local channels via satellite or cable. Someone who want to be able to watch something if their satellite/cable signal goes out.

Best freakin' podcast in a while

Bailout13500 wrote:don't forget 8 miliseconds refresh rate will case draging on live action tv

Not true. I play every type of game known to man on my 37" and there isn't a hint of ghosting or delay or anything.

Admittedly I haven't watched sports on it since I don't use it as a tv, but as for fast action through gaming, there isn't a hint of ghosting.

So I guess you might be right if you watch sports on it, but I doubt it would be anything noticeable or anything at all. 8ms is a decent refresh. I wouldn't go any higher, but 8ms handles fast action just fine.

Bailout13500 wrote:don't forget 8 miliseconds refresh rate will case draging on live action tv

8ms.. Do you know that means the screen can be updated up to 125 times per second? I doubt you'll notice any ghosting. I don't on mine (not this screen, but mine is 8ms as well).

8ms means it takes 8/1000 of a second to update or 1/125 of a second. So I suppose if you're getting faster than 125fps in action you'll notice ghosting. However, isn't most stuff being displayed on TV at something like <30fps?

it is HD ready, yes 1080p is HD resolution, even better than the standard HD res of 720p/1080i. The significant downside of this display is the fact that it has no tuner built in to pick up broadcasting of any kind. If you know you will only be using digital cable services (comcast, time warner, etc.) then this isnt really an issue. You can also use this to watch all your DVDs.