nggappa wrote:Yes you can connect a computer via S-Video cable

Or if you have a newer video card, you can use its' DVI out with a DVI to HDMI converter cable.

having only 1 HDMI port is not a big problem. You can get a 5 in to 1 out box from Radioshack, or many online stores (buy.com, tigerdirect, etc.). to be able to use your dvd player, tivo, ps3, whatever- for less than $60. Example below:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=4088&seq=1&format=2

WeezTheJuice wrote:I don't think enough people have said this, so let me reiterate, 720p is ok for a 32 inch monitor.

But doesn't that violate the 1st rule of dumb a** american consumerism... more is always better? e.g.
- tons per SUV
- pixels per digital image
- calories per fast food meal
- sq ft per house
- inches per waistline

of course no one call tell the difference in normal TV viewing b/t 720 and 1080. But 720 seems so small compared to 1080. it just doesn't sit right.

ok, sarcasm aside. People - for large sets, 1080 matters. for 32", you can't tell the difference.

lovin the picture

It's bouncing get it before it goes!

WeezTheJuice wrote:I don't think enough people have said this, so let me reiterate, 720p is ok for a 32 inch monitor.

Then let me do the same...

On Black Friday my brother and I bought a 42" 720p TV. They accidentally gave us one 720 and one 1080.

Lucky me huh? I thought so to at first until we hooked them up and placed them side by side. Could not see any difference in the picture at all at normal viewing distance. The only difference they had was in the design(mostly the width) of the tv and then location of the plugs(input/output etc.).

We don't have a Blu-ray DVD player so I have no input on that, but regular channels and HD channels neither of us could see a difference between the two.

Perhaps they're moving into a doll house?

Do you like you're? I have one in my vacation home and I think it's fine.

pavanb500 wrote:You're buying a house in a bedroom?

You don't have a house your bedroom? better see about it! it's all the rage!

agaharwar wrote:That picture is from Indian Raliways toilet. Reminds me of my traveling days in India by train.

its from the movie darjeeling limited directed by wes anderson

I have a question... is 720p ok for 32"?

uber1337 wrote:A few people said this but this guy describes it best:

"Once I tried watching "widescreen", the picture became distorted. Objects on either end of the screen would warp. This is most evident watching football, as you can clearly see the yard lines bend as they go to either the left or the right sides of the screen. "

That guy is an WAFFLES! TASTY WAFFLES!. When watching SD signals there are four viewing modes on this TV. One is normal, where you get black bars on the sides and a 4:3 ratio. One is simply a zoom, where it cuts off the top and bottom of the picture to fill the whole screen. This is occasionally useful if you are watching something like USA that letterboxes their programs even if they are in SD and the picture is just a tiny speck in the middle of the screen. One viewing mode is simply a widescreen stretch where the whole picture is stretched horizontally to fill the screen. This looks terrible by the way. The last viewing option is what this guy describes, a smarter stretch, where the center of the image is left untouched and as you get closer to the left and right the picture is stretched out. The effect of this is that if all the action is happening in the center of the frame, you don't notice any distortion but still get your picture filling the whole screen. If you want to see an example of this for yourself, watch TNT in HD during the day when they have non-HD programs on. They use this same effect to make their signal widescreen.

jdogga wrote:I have a question... is 720p ok for 32"?

heh heh heh ...

jdogga wrote:I have a question... is 720p ok for 32"?

I just sold my bedroom set, a Proview 3200 (32 inch) because it was 720p and had NTSC tuner...Boooo.
Paid $800 for it 1.5 yrs ago and sold it for $450 last week.
I bought an (off brand) Sceptre 32" WITH built in HD TUNER and 1080p from Costco ONLINE sale price ($150 off) for $599 plus $19 shipping.
Didn't arrive yet.
I'd say 26" is the cutoff point for NON 1080p. After that, 32 and up makes a BIG difference. Broadcast HD looks terrific on the 1080p 32 inch. That's my opinion and I was willing to put up the money to change it. This set is a decent price but NO HD TUNER and NO 1080p....wait a year and I'll bet you'll get all that for the same price.

If you buy this you'll need cable HD tuner or have to buy an HD tuner or converter next year when all broadcast TV is HD. And it won't look HD at 720p. Again my opinion but many would agree.

bogawoot wrote:I completely disagree. I just sold my bedroom set, a Proview 3200 (32 inch) because it was NOT 1080p and had NTSC tuner...Boooo.
Paid $800 for it 1.5 yrs ago and sold it for $450 last week.
I bought a (off brand) Sceptre 32" WITH HD TUNER and 1080p from Costco ONLINE sale price ($150 off) for $599 plus $19 shipping.
Didn't arrive yet.
I'd say 26" is the cutoff point for NON 1080p. After that, 32 and up makes a BIG difference. Broadcast HD looks terrific on the 1080p 32 inch. That's my opinion and I was willing to put up the money to change it. This set is a decent price but NO HD TUNER and NO 1080p....wait a year and I'll bet you'll get all that for the same price.

[heavy sigh] ... at least it's sold out so this will stop ... (and it DOES have an ATSC tuner, did you not see it in the specs?) ...

bogawoot wrote:Broadcast HD looks terrific on the 1080p 32 inch.

Remind me again, what channels currently broadcast in 1080p?

it says it has 2 5watt speakers or 25 watt speakers???? so is it 5 watt or 25 watt?

I just bought this 32" RCA, 1500:1 contrast ratio, only $429

http://www.ecost.com/Detail/TV%27s/RCA/L32WD22+REF/41618878.aspx

bardic wrote:Someone posted a "Timey Wimey" comment and now it is gone...

Anyways, love the Doctor Who and Star Trek references.

My theory is that Star Trek episodes are just actors portraying the actual events that will happen in the future.

That was MY comment - where did it go?????
I mean, that's what I assumed had to follow Wibbly Wobbly...
Timey Wimey!

bogawoot wrote:If you buy this you'll need cable HD tuner or have to buy an HD tuner or converter next year when all broadcast TV is HD. And it won't look HD at 720p. Again my opinion but many would agree.

I missed this the first time but I just have to say something about it.

- This TV comes with an HD tuner. I have one, I watch HD programs on it, so I should know.
- Next year all programming will NOT be in HD. The law requires that all broadcast TV be digital which is vastly different from HD.
- 720p IS AN HD RESOLUTION! Of course it will look HD at 720P. Half of the networks that broadcast in HD do it at 720P, the others do it at 1080i. NO ONE broadcasts in 1080p. The only way you are going to get a 1080p signal is from a Bluray player, as many people in this forum have already pointed out.
- An opinion is an opinion. It is yours alone. Please don't say that many people would agree with you as if that means something. If you are wrong, you are wrong, even if you are part of a majority. Remember Tom Servo Germany? Hitler had an opinion too and many people agreed with him. Does that make Hitler right?

EDIT: Apparently the name of a German political party from the 1930s and 1940s becomes Tom Servo on here, I had no idea.

beldenben wrote:Remind me again, what channels currently broadcast in 1080p?

Let's see ... there are exactly ... zero ...

darn the're sold out

Well I missed out. However didn't think it was that great of a deal. You can find new 32in tv's for under $500 just about anywhere now.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9107635

I've own a Viewsonic 32" N3250W 1080i. and a Toshiba REGZA 42" 1080p 42RV530U.
For my Viewsonic 32", it's such a small screen, can't tell the different between 720p to 1080i, because the screen so small, I've read some facts about HD TVs, lower than 50", you only need 720p. Sometimes it's not because you need it or not. It is something has to run in 1080i or p but not in 720p, some only run in 720p but not 1080i or p, so depend what the media needs.
For my Toshiba 42", I don't compare to 720p to 1080p, I compare 1080i to 1080p. It has a slightly different. It doesn't have different even lower than 50" even tho some pro said it doesn't, but IT DOES.
Also, another fact is, my 32" only runs 1366x768 resolution even it's a 1080i HDTV.
For my 42", it could run in best 1080p resolution and have the benefit of the full HD for computer, which I'm very happy about this.

OK, for those who use their HDTV more like a monitor than a TV, you probably want to look at the resolution more than the HD value, but of course, 1080p is good.

For me, I use my 42" in my room, also use only for computer, and I do some design work like in Photoshop, so, larger resolution help me a bunch. I also use it for PS3, it looks perfect.

Another thing is the features. If you prefer more features, you would have to go thru the system. One thing is very sad that my 42" doesn't have PIP or POP feature for such a new model TV, but I hardly watch TV which is OK to me, but it's a shame not to have that feature.
For my 32", it has a very big and superb speakers which I don't have on my 42". The bass is very good even it's on max that you can't hear any "Paper Flapping Sound" (don't know how to describe it, you know, cheap speakers has that). But on my 42", it has a line speaker which is not a big speaker very obviously, delivers a very bad bass sound.

I chose Toshiba because it's a nice durable brand. I don't mind the speakers because I have a surround sound system so I don't need it unless I use it at midnight.
Problem is, my 32" broke after 2 years on the power supply, so I bought 4 years warranty for my 42". Now I have experience, I don't buy it from here, especially with less feature, not enough warranty, refurbished, and the way how the deliver man treat the packages.

Such a long story, so guys, choose the TV wisely.

Viewsonic N3250W 32" (See the speakers are kind of big which deliver a superb bass sound)
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/screen_shot_images/369/201674369_001.jpg
Toshiba REGZA 42" (See there is only a small place for speakers, sadly it can use medium bass only)
http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/toshiba_regza_xv540_series.jpg

Some more related info about HDTVs.
http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html

Toilet comprehension test here:
http://www.thebeijingguide.com/toilets/chinese_toilets.html

llo

sdutango wrote:I've own a Viewsonic 32" N3250W 1080i. and a Toshiba REGZA 42" 1080p.
For my Viewsonic 32", it's such a small screen, can't tell the different between 720p to 1080i, because the screen so small, I've read some facts about HD TVs, lower than 50", you only need 720p. Sometimes it's not because you need it or not. It is something has to run in 1080i or p but not in 720p, some only run in 720p but not 1080i or p, so depend what the media needs.
For my Toshiba 42", I don't compare to 720p to 1080p, I compare 1080i to 1080p. It has a slightly different. It doesn't have different even lower than 50" even tho some pro said it doesn't, but IT DOES.
Also, another fact is, my 32" only runs 1366x768 resolution even it's a 1080i HDTV.
For my 42", it could run in best 1080p resolution and have the benefit of the full HD for computer, which I'm very happy about this.

OK, for those who use their HDTV more like a monitor than a TV, you probably want to look at the resolution more than the HD value, but of course, 1080p is good.

For me, I use my 42" in my room, also use only for computer, and I do some design work like in Photoshop, so, larger resolution help me a bunch. I also use it for PS3, it looks perfect.

Another thing is the features. If you prefer more features, you would have to go thru the system. One thing is very sad that my 42" doesn't have PIP or POP feature for such a new model TV, but I hardly watch TV which is OK to me, but it's a shame not to have that feature.
For my 32", it has a very big and superb speakers which I don't have on my 42". The bass is very good even it's on max that you can't hear any "Paper Flapping Sound" (don't know how to describe it, you know, cheap speakers has that). But on my 42", it has a line speaker which is not a big speaker very obviously, delivers a very bad bass sound.

I chose Toshiba because it's a nice durable brand. I don't mind the speakers because I have a surround sound system so I don't need it unless I use it at midnight.
Problem is, my 32" broke after 2 years on the power supply, so I bought 4 years warranty for my 42". Now I have experience, I don't buy it from here, especially with less feature, not enough warranty, refurbished, and the way how the deliver man treat the packages.

Such a long story, so guys, choose the TV wisely.

Viewsonic N3250W 32" (See the speakers are kind of big which deliver a superb bass sound)
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/screen_shot_images/369/201674369_001.jpg
Toshiba REGZA 42" (See there is only a small place for speakers, sadly it can use medium bass)
http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/toshiba_regza_xv540_series.jpg

Some more related info about HDTVs.
http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html

Um, thanks. You do know the item is sold out, right?

beldenben wrote:Um, thanks. You do know the item is sold out, right?

Oh yea, I know that, I'm just helping people who want to know more about HDTV. and i forgot to put this in.

I own this TV and I would recommend it for a bedroom (if it's a smaller room) or a kitchen if you're rich and can afford to put LCDs everywhere. But either way, it's a solid TV, but not exactly a family room TV or anything like that IMO.

Even though Emerson is not a brand I prefer, I think that this was an excellent deal for a 32" high definition TV.

That'll teach me to sleep in. dang.

frak! it actually sold out and my brother is still sleeping!!!! frak i was actually gonna buy this woot! .. oh well .. im getting a tattoo today and its gonna be around that price.. i cant afford both anyway

ggrote wrote:[heavy sigh] ... at least it's sold out so this will stop ... (and it DOES have an ATSC tuner, did you not see it in the specs?) ...

Yes, I missed it when I scanned and only saw NTSC. Thanks. And as for the 1080p broadcast comments, Zero is correct. But 1080p kicks 1080i DVD butt. And those who think 32 inch doesn't make a difference for 1080p vs 720p...visit your opthamologist, you may need glasses.

sdutango wrote:Oh yea, I know that, I'm just helping people who want to know more about HDTV. and i forgot to put this in.

Thanks for the info... I was actually looking to get this, but my indecision cost me the tv :'( Can anyone else offer some good deals that are out there... or offer some options that are ~32" and under 500 bucks?

-pez

bogawoot wrote:And those who think 32 inch doesn't make a difference for 1080p vs 720p...visit your opthamologist, you may need glasses.

The only reason you should visit an ophthalmologist is if you need eye surgery. If you just need glasses, an optometrist is a much better bet.

And again, my point remains, the ONLY way you are going to get a 1080p signal is with a Bluray player. NOTHING is broadcast in 1080p. I'm not saying that 1080p isn't a higher resolution, it clearly is. I'm not saying that 1080p looks the same as 720p, it doesn't. But if you are getting an HDTV to watch TV on, you DON'T NEED 1080p. If you want to waste the money on it, go ahead, but it's equivalent to having a color TV when everything was being broadcast in black and white. Yes, color does look much better, but if nothing is being broadcast in color, who cares?

SeanJE wrote:I just bought this 32" RCA, 1500:1 contrast ratio, only $429

http://www.ecost.com/Detail/TV%27s/RCA/L32WD22+REF/41618878.aspx

Except...you have to deal with eCost

bogawoot wrote:Yes, I missed it when I scanned and only saw NTSC. Thanks. And as for the 1080p broadcast comments, Zero is correct. But 1080p kicks 1080i DVD butt. And those who think 32 inch doesn't make a difference for 1080p vs 720p...visit your opthamologist, you may need glasses.

I just had a physical earlier this month for football and good news from that is -- 20/20-Right Eye, 20/15-Left Eye

So you have set up two TV's side by side and looked at both of them at a normal viewing range to compare? As I stated before, I have and with larger TV's. Sorry to tell you this, but at a normal distance away there is no difference between the two.

But who knows maybe my eyesight went out that day along with my brother's (unfortunately he only has 20/20 in both (*sarcastically* not sure if our eyes match your standards)). I think it may be more of a mental thing for some of the people that feel that there is such a big difference between 720 and 1080, but hey to all their own right?

nggappa wrote:I just had a physical earlier this month for football and good news from that is -- 20/20-Right Eye, 20/15-Left Eye

So you have set up two TV's side by side and looked at both of them at a normal viewing range to compare? As I stated before, I have and with larger TV's. Sorry to tell you this, but at a normal distance away there is no difference between the two.

But who knows maybe my eyesight went out that day along with my brother's (unfortunately he only has 20/20 in both (*sarcastically* not sure if our eyes match your standards)). I think it may be more of a mental thing for some of the people that feel that there is such a big difference between 720 and 1080, but hey to all their own right?

Right ... there's no way to convince someone who's already convinced the other way, but I've compared 720p and 1080p (and yes, I mean "p" in both cases) on "smaller" TV's such as this, using a 1080p signal, and cannot tell the difference at normal viewing distances ... I CAN tell the difference up close, of course, so if I'm buying a TV that I plan to also use as a computer monitor that might be a different story altogether ... (and, BTW, I am also fortunate to have at least 20-20 in both eyes as well, if that matters to anyone still reading this forum) ... but to each his/her own, and the folks who insist on 1080p are just doing me a favor by forcing down the prices on the 720p sets!

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

A person's ability to distinguish small details is described by visual acuity. When individual pixels are barely resolvable, increased resolution brings little benefit for the viewer unless the viewing distance can be shortened or the display enlarged. Thus for 1080p television viewing, there is a minimum size to distance ratio to see a significant benefit. The ability of the eye to resolve 1080p content also depends on the amount of contrast in the picture. For optimum viewing, it is recommended to sit back approximately three times the height of the screen.

To distinguish the difference between 1080p and 720p with the human eye with 20/20 vision and a 50 Inch screen, you need to be sitting within 6 feet of the screen - approximately half of the recommended distance.

pezlin wrote:Thanks for the info... I was actually looking to get this, but my indecision cost me the tv :'( Can anyone else offer some good deals that are out there... or offer some options that are ~32" and under 500 bucks?

-pez

www.walmart.com has one for $497 with 1 year warranty.
www.circuit.com has one for $479 but not for shipping you have to check your local stores.

pezlin wrote:Thanks for the info... I was actually looking to get this, but my indecision cost me the tv :'( Can anyone else offer some good deals that are out there... or offer some options that are ~32" and under 500 bucks?

-pez

If time isn't a factor and you don't need a TV right now, as others have said, prices on HDTV are always in flux and are going to be dropping quickly in the fall. And of course, if you are adventurous, you could always wait until Black Friday when I'm sure there will be much better deals than this. In any case, depending on the brand, the TVs at Walmart are the same quality as anywhere else if you are just looking for something cheap and they have a 90 day return policy on most items (I'm not sure about TVs) so if prices do drop in the next three months, you can always return it.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8477433

i24u wrote:www.walmart.com has one for $497 with 1 year warranty.
www.circuit.com has one for $479 but not for shipping you have to check your local stores.

http://www.buy.com/prod/westinghouse-sk-32h240s-32-lcd-hdtv-1200-1-contrast-ratio-8ms-response/q/loc/111/208115572.html
429.00 free shipping