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New Westinghouse 46" LCD HDTV, for $799.99 + $5 shipping
Product: 1x Westinghouse 46" LTV-46w1 LCD 720p HDTV

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83/100 on AlaTest...
http://alatest.com/reviews/tv-reviews/westinghouse-ltv-46w1/po3-35044955,33/

fortgeorge wrote:Hmm, is this any good? Been looking for a new tv.

Costco has had a 42" westinghouse 1080P for $699...

Student Bodies on the television!!!!!!

Classic... llo

Anything sub-1080p tends to be looked down on now. Even 1080p is starting to look mainstream.

120hz is where it's at, mostly because it renders 24p footage properly (5 refreshes per frame as opposed to 2.5 with 60hz)

However, $800 is pretty awesome, so who knows. If 720p is your cake, go for it.

hrm, good price.......i just paid 250 for a respiffied 20" PAAAaaaAAaaaanCAAAAAKES!

Heh, my friends just bought the same exact TV for the same price at Best Buy, only theirs was the floor model... And they thought they were so cool...

How much do the lamps for these run? Would that be covered by that there warranty?

More remnants of the Sell-off a few weeks back.

Its a decent TV if you're ok with 720p. The size is great for the price.

I just got a Samsung(better brand) 50" (bigger is better) 1080p (once again better) plasma (ehh) from circuit city for $1,200. It was last years model but the difference in this years model and last years is... this years has a strip of red at the bottom (the new touch-of-color series).

I am glad this deal came out AFTER I bought my tv or this would probably be on my wall in a week or two.

Thefinaleofseem wrote:46" and only 720p? male! My old 34" CRT HDTV is at 1080i, and this thing is huge and low resolution. Pffft.

1080i isn't better than 720p slick

Westinghouse has actually gotten good reviews for their LCD sets. Don't know about this model, but it sure blows the $995.00 price tag at Costco for their Vizio 42" models. This very well may be a legit great deal.

I don't know enough except my daughter bought a Samsung 32 or 37 inch. Her's had 2 HDMI and she would have preferred 3. This only has 1? Is that an issue?

Buy.com has the 37" 1080P Westy for $600, way better deal (has no tuner though)

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=205467075&loc=&sid=&adid=

poofacemom wrote:Um, there's a 37 inch 1080p on buy.com for $590 shipped, decent brand too, at least comparible to Westinghouse. Much, much better ppi. If you're going over 25 inches you should be getting 1080p, its stupid not to.

Uh... if you're worried about 1080p on a 26" TV, you better be sitting like a half a foot away from it.

My TV is about ten to twelve feet from the couch in here, a 46" 720p TV should look just the same as a 1080p one would. And if I hadn't just bought a 42", I'd be all over this.

Heh, what a coincidence - this is the TV I have in my living room. I picked mine up on clearance at Sam's Club for ~650 in December. Overall it's a decent set, able to pick up OTA HD channels after the typical 20 minute scan. Picture quality is good, size is adequate. Viewing angles are very good. This model is getting a little long in the tooth for an LCD, so expect minor ghosting, but nothing that prevents me from playing Xbox and enjoying it. It only has 1 HDMI port, so expect to hook up via component if you have multiple HD sources.

Main gripes:
-Built in menu system is slowwwww. Changing settings is sometimes annoying due to lag between pressing button and response on TV. Also occurs when changing inputs.
-Built in speakers could be louder - but what can you do? Pick up a cheap surround-sound system if it bothers you. Loud enough majority of the time, it's only noticeable when there is a good amount of background noise I'm trying to drown out.
-TV occasionally freezes when hooked up to regular cable. Problem has gone away since getting a DVR from my cable company, and I don't know if this is a problem with my set specifically or this model in general. When it would freeze, it would have to be unplugged and replugged to get the TV to work normally again.
-720p - meh. From my couch watching TV, I don't notice the difference. I tend to sit closer to the set while playing games, though, and can tell that its not 1080P then. But for the price I paid, I'm not really complaining...

Overall, I have been satisfied. Westinghouse isn't really a money brand, but I have this set and two 24" PC LCDs made by them, and none have had real problems.

At the time of this post the only people wooting are Texans, poor souls, because they are all awake watching the Weather Channel. Just an interesting insight into how things affect what we do as consumers.

Bought this exact same tv from buy.com 3 weeks ago for 899. Decent picture in normal broadcast, looks surprisingly well in HD channels. Great size for the money, literally no light reflection. The contrast ratio is relatively low however, and you can notice somewhat viewing darker images. But overall I'm happy with it thus far, for 799 you wont find a bigger tv with this decent of a picture.

Barking Old Cronies!!

Nice Price - but consider Costco has a 46" 1080P for $100 more (and it has a 2 year warranty backed by Costco)...I actually bought the 42" 1080P for $799 which included shipping at the time...wait until the holidays and a 46" 1080P will be $699 - guess I'll wait for the 100" 1080P when it comes on woot next year for $2,499.99 :-)

A 46", although only about 9% more diagonal inches, is actually 20% more total screen real estate -- a pretty substantial amount.

And froogle has it about $1400 or so

So the description story thing is based on Episode 3 of Season 9 of Seinfeld. Kessler is Kramer (Jerry makes the mistake of thinking Kramer's name is Kessler at the end of the episode). Delano Rabinowitz is a reference to FDR, who wished Kramer to "drop dead" in the episode. Question though: who is Mrs. Nosybody supposed to be?

andersoncheung wrote:My god...the contrast ration is just 1000:1....very low!!!!

There isn't really a standard for measuring contrast ratio from company to company.

in all honesty with a TV this big 720p won't make that much a difference. plus, there is a majority of media that can't play on a TV that is higher. but do what your gut tells you.

soliver wrote:How much do the lamps for these run? Would that be covered by that there warranty?

Flat panel LCD's do not have "lamps". They have a luminescent panel. If it dies, it's dead.

Thankfully, they are not expected to burn out as projection bulbs do.

justincredibleg wrote:There isn't really a standard for measuring contrast ratio from company to company.

Most likely, it's a native measurement. While a 1000:1 IS still pretty low, you have to compare it to other native contrast ratio measurements to be fair. I wonder what it's rated as far as dynamic's concerned, though.

Cosco has a Sceptre brand 46" 1080 lcd for $899.99just finished setting mine up so far looks great...

This set does supports 1080i
http://www.westinghousedigital.com/details.aspx?itemnum=71

From the spec sheet:


1 HDMI-HDCP + L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

1 VGA/D-Sub/RGB + Audio mini jack 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

2 YPbPr Component Video+ L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

sumorez wrote:Uh... if you're worried about 1080p on a 26" TV, you better be sitting like a half a foot away from it.

Egggggsactly.

am I missing something here? sure looks like 1080i to me...

Compatible Modes:

* NTSC: 480i
* HDTV: 480p, 720p, 1080i
* PC: VGA, SVGA, XGA, SXGA
* Clear QAM

Lewl, TVs with 720p ALMOST ALWAYS output 1080i. this tv is garbage. get a plasma 50 inch 720 p for the same price. get a samsung sor something nice. not a bad price tho...

lordielordie wrote:This set does supports 1080i
http://www.westinghousedigital.com/details.aspx?itemnum=71

lordielordie wrote:From the spec sheet:


1 HDMI-HDCP + L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

1 VGA/D-Sub/RGB + Audio mini jack 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

2 YPbPr Component Video+ L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

Aye. It accepts up to a 1080i input, but since the panel itself has a native resolution of 1366×768, it will scale any 1080i source down to 720p. Set will not accept 1080p input (blank screen until you change the source resolution to 1080i or below).

EvStarr wrote:am I missing something here? sure looks like 1080i to me...

Compatible Modes:

* NTSC: 480i
* HDTV: 480p, 720p, 1080i
* PC: VGA, SVGA, XGA, SXGA
* Clear QAM

The best out there right now would be 1080p. Most televisions 40" and up nowadays are 1080p-capable, though that'll really only come into play on a 1080p source, like a Blu-Ray player, PS3/Xbox360, etc. 1080i just doesn't give you anywhere near as nice a picture as a 1080p model will, and that's why 1080i/720p models in that size range are, for all intents and purposes, obsolete.

lordielordie wrote:This set does supports 1080i
http://www.westinghousedigital.com/details.aspx?itemnum=71

Ovaltina, my goat

ok, time to be educated since we can't do it ourselves. Any TV that claims to be HD or HD ready HAS to display in both formats! 1080i and 1080p are very different!
A 720p signal is made up of 720 horizontal lines and each frame is displayed
in its entirety on-screen for 1/30th of a second. Hence the 'P' because this is what progressive scan is! Ok so 720p is at 30fps.

A 1080i signal comprises 1080 horizontal lines but all the lines are not displayed
on-screen at the same time. they are interlaced (1080 i!) ie every other
lines is displayed for 1/60th of a second and then the alternate lines are displayed
for 1/60th of a second. So, the frame rate is still 30 frames per second, but each
frame is split into two fields, which your brain then puts together subconsciously.

Most of the time interlacing works fine, but for fast moving images, such as sports
like baseball and hockey it can cause problems which manifest themselves as a
'stepping' effect on-screen. Progressive scan signals don't have this problem and so
are better suited to sports.

there

I own a 37" 720p and a 47" 1080p Westinghouse. I bought them refurbished at prices comparable to the Woot deal and would buy them again. I've seen a 46 inch Westinghouse at eCost for 799 but 5 dollar shipping seems to make it a good deal if you'd like a TV like this.

EvStarr wrote:am I missing something here? sure looks like 1080i to me...

Compatible Modes:

* NTSC: 480i
* HDTV: 480p, 720p, 1080i
* PC: VGA, SVGA, XGA, SXGA
* Clear QAM

Like so many TVs, the panel is not native 720p. It has 768 lines of detail.

Even with a 720p signal, it's not displayed natively when it's scaled up to 768p.

Both 720p and 1080i signals have to be scaled to display on 768 lines. No matter what type of signal it can accept/scale, the native resolution of the panel is what really matters.

There is no such thing as a native 1080i LCD. Only traditional CRT's can display 1080i signals natively.

A 1080P LCD can reproduce 1080i because it can draw the alternate interleaved lines in the correct place.

justincredibleg wrote:Ovaltina, my goat

ok, time to be educated since we can't do it ourselves. Any TV that claims to be HD or HD ready HAS to display in both formats! 1080i and 1080p are very different!
A 720p signal is made up of 720 horizontal lines and each frame is displayed
in its entirety on-screen for 1/30th of a second. Hence the 'P' because this is what progressive scan is! Ok so 720p is at 30fps.

A 1080i signal comprises 1080 horizontal lines but all the lines are not displayed
on-screen at the same time. they are interlaced (1080 i!) ie every other
lines is displayed for 1/60th of a second and then the alternate lines are displayed
for 1/60th of a second. So, the frame rate is still 30 frames per second, but each
frame is split into two fields, which your brain then puts together subconsciously.

Most of the time interlacing works fine, but for fast moving images, such as sports
like baseball and hockey it can cause problems which manifest themselves as a
'stepping' effect on-screen. Progressive scan signals don't have this problem and so
are better suited to sports.

there

Thanks for typing all that out. I'm too lazy. :D

andersoncheung wrote:My god...the contrast ration is just 1000:1....very low!!!!

Contrast numbers are mostly meaningless. Different mfg use different measurement techniques.

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