unixrab wrote:....detachment, disillusionment, apathy. It doesn't really matter if I'm a 1a or 1b. Woot 3.0 is what it is, and (while you, Snapster, have been kind and extremely responsive here in the forums) it seems that it's not helping. The width is still unchanged. The colors are corporate. The 3 column design is bulky, awkward and uninviting. a particularly-extreme (and disappointing) woot makeover.
Extremely well said, Unixrab.
It's been very frustrating for some of us who have been trying to make the same point as you just splendidly did. Frustrating due to the seeming disconnect between our comments and Snapster's replies.
While many of us were commenting on the subjective impact of 3.0 (general dislike, no longer a site you want to "hang-out" at, no longer "fun," and, as you said in your Jan 15th post, "Sorry w00t, you're no longer my homepage...it's just too ugly"), Snapster kept trying to categorize this dissafection into a 1a or 1b proposition. He consistently elects to deflect the point.
So many of his replies have been wrapped in spreadsheets and demos and future front-page enhancements and tolerable pixels that I feel like crying out The Emperor Has No Clothes...but it's actually the other way around.
Though still clueless, he's wrapped in too many clothes; too many to see out from under them to appreciate the whole point of the opposition: We don't like the new w00t! It's just not fun anymore! You follow? Mr. Snapster?
It's sad, and even poignant, to go back to Jan 14th and scroll through this thread's pages one by one. It is so evident that 3.0 has had a visceral impact on so many w00ters.
Most of the posters are trying to be helpful...they don't want to see their "club" evaporate into corporate sameness. But the nature of their pleas is ignored while Snapster clings to the numbers and his resulting self-glorification of the site, presumably because of the future revenue potential of the re-design.
A poster by the name of deepspace pointed out several times in this thread when he'd notice a first post by someone who'd been a member since the very early days. He was making an effective statement: w00t, here's someone who not only doesn't like the new site, they feel strongly enough about it to come out of the void to tell you so.
KippyJ was the first poster, and her comment contained incredulity about the new look, hoping it was an "interim oddity."
You (Unixrab) made a point of saying that w00t's stupendous growth happened during and, perhaps, because of the 2.0 period.
Let's face it...the whole scene makes many of us feel totally disconnected from the folks we thought we knew.
I think many of us, including myself, thought the new look was some kind of demographic research scheme in which data would be mined from the comments for use in some future marketing purposes, and then the site would revert to 2.0.
By now we know this was not a test, nor an interim oddity. This, unfortunately, is for real.
I don't hang around here anymore. I used to stay up till one (eastern) every night because I was an enthusiastic w00ter. I'm not much into it anymore.
Snapster doesn't seem to realize that it wasn't so much the deals we were here for...it was the fraternity.
Below is my first post in this thread on the first day of the change. It reflects my emotional reaction to 3.0 rather than the numerical scheme Snapster employs. Unixrab said it better than I in his full post at the top of this page.
His words on this will serve as my last. I couldn't have said it better.
GodSpeed, Mr. Snapster. I'm gone.
"Sadly, you've rendered your brand into a look-alike image of your tackiest wannabe imitators (ThingFling, DailySteals, Yugster, Shnoop, Stootsi).
We w00ters welcome any technical improvements to the site, but was the change in format necessary?
Aside from the unanimous comments regarding the page being too wide, the color and layout are not ingratiating. They are, in fact, cold and repulsive.
I've always enjoyed turning people into new w00ters. But, this new format doesn't provide the arcane feel of the older...the sense of being among an elite corps of insiders. Now, the site just looks like so many of the others.
In its original form, w00t! was an icon. Why, oh why, did you feel you had to mess with it?"
Oh, here's one from deepspace that I came across while signing out:
"I dislike this a great deal.
The green is bad to say the least, but the layout makes me feel like I am at K-Mart.
Please, do not make us use this. I am truly saddened by this.
You removed all the comfortable feel Woot had and made it look like just another AOL style shopping site.
Please, I am begging you, do not do this."
Snapster's pigeon-holing w00ter discontent into 1a/1b obscures and belittles the subjective, but essential, point that it's no longer "fun" to hang-out around here anymore.
Review the thread. Many w00ters came out of the closet to express their dissatisfaction. I wonder how many of them have just shrugged and moved along because, like me, they just don't like it. Period.