So it has no optical drive, but comes with XP Tablet and Vista Business discs. I give up. How do you use them?

brianh81 wrote:Does anybody know if the screen on this will respond to both the stylus and fingers? I know some of these tablets only work with the stylus

I have one of these -- and as much as my mother mistakes her fingers for the stylus they only respond to the latter..

TLHBRONCO wrote:If it wasn't an HP, I would buy it. I have had nothing but trouble with HP computers.

You are an aberration (user error?). HP's have been rated # 1 in reliability for 2 years running now. My oldest PC is an HP tower, 8 years old (one of first p4's at 2.53GHZ) and still running strong and being used my kids

We just got these at work. They're not a bad computer. The finish is pretty nice, and they've been mostly durable. It handles the OS and all the programs that we're running without too many hiccups. I accidently dropped one from about a height of 4.5 feet onto tile floor, and which the exception of a chipped corner and a dent in the metallic surround, it still runs like a champ.

Some things to look out for: every now and then the screen gets locked in one orientation. We have ours set to change from landscape to portrait when it's in tablet mode, and every so often it doesn't want to reorientate. The pen doesn't work very well on any of them. There may be settings that would make it better, but the lines are not very smooth, it seems to be hit or miss if you are trying to do any kind of curves, and it does an awful job of capturing writing. We use ours for signatures on documents, and it's hard to get a smooth looking signature unless you're writing fairly big. The smaller letters either block up or blur into an unreadable mess. Again, it could be an issue that's resolved by tinkering with the settings, but IT restricts that with us, so it is what it is.

Does this have a keyboard?? I googled and it looks like others have a keyboard but I know that typically the lower priced Tablets are tablet only with no physical keyboard.

flakeyblakee wrote:So, uh, does this have a webcam, or no?


Integrated camera: Integrated 2 MP camera (1600×1200 max resolution) on select models

I noticed this too...

If this was half the weight, half the thickness, and half the price--i.e. a tablet netbook--then it would be a great deal. A year from now I expect such devices to be plentiful, led by the tablet/netbook that Apple is supposedly coming out with. So I'm going to wait. Plus, my 3 year old T&L Averatec 2150 laptop is still chugging along nicely, and its feelings would be hurt if I prematurely replaced it.

katysax wrote:This is the old model - the 2710p. I have a 2730p - the new model - I got a good deal but only paid $100 more than this Woot price for the 2710.

Also, no matter what you think of Vista vs. XP; on a tablet Vista works much better.

The 2710 is a decent tablet. HP makes a really nice docking station and slice battery. It's really quite useful. I prefer browsing the web with a tablet because I am very nearsighted and can take off my glasses and hold it close to my eyes. Microsoft One Note is very useful for taking notes in meetings without having a laptop sticking up, and a lot of casual games are fun on a tablet.

It would be great if all of you who got the better model for just a little bit more could post links rather than just saying. What I'm seeing on the hp website is $2,400+ for the 2710p: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-321838-3955547-3355644.html

For once in my life, I can look at the "first sucker" area of the woot! stats and agree with the phraseology.

However... My dad has had a tablet PC for work for several years now and by and large, it has served him well (he is on his second one now) but they are provided by the company, so he hasn't had to pay for it and they replace them fairly often. His was an IBM X41 though, if I remember correctly. My experience with HP as a computing company has been mediocre. Their printers have been decent though.

I would have to say though that I couldn't justify buying one of these though even if I did have $700 in change hiding deep within my couch. I am only slightly disappointed with this being the deal of the day. I'm sure some people have been looking for this somewhere though. Maybe if they've looked under a rock recently it piqued their interest and prepared them for this very moment.

Sorry woot, I'm in for 0. Good night!

It responds to stylus only.

I have the HP 2710p, it looks like its the same model being offered (based on the right profile screenshot). It was provided to me by my employer. I like it a lot, I use it to take notes in class (college student).

However, sometimes (not often, but sometimes) when rotating between being able to use the keyboard and using it as a tablet, the screen does not properly rotate. This was an annoyance at worst before, because there is a button on the side that lets you rotate the screen, but that has since stopped working. Now its a guessing game as i move it around trying to make it rotate. Not sure if it is a hardware or software problem, but worth noting. Also, the fingerprint sensor almost never works correctly, but that was only ever a gimmick anyway in my opinion.

Overall though, I like it. I use it daily for note taking, its very convenient for me to be able easily change, copy, and move notes around. Its also small enough for me to carry easily in my bag, which is a bug plus.

teamcoltra wrote:Does this have a keyboard?? I googled and it looks like others have a keyboard but I know that typically the lower priced Tablets are tablet only with no physical keyboard.

I'm fairly certain this one is the convertible type; the screen swivels around to be just a tablet or a tablet + keyboard.

HP's new tablet model isn't 'Business', but it is faster with better graphics, more space, etc. Does have a much shorter battery life, though, and costs a bit more.

pumbaa57 wrote:Having owned one, I will say this: when you first get it, you have all of these ingenious ways you will utilize the tablet... and then after using it for a week, the cool factor kinda wears off, and it proves to be not that useful.

It depends on what you do with it. I do a lot of sketching and annotating for work and my tablet has been a monumental time saver.

I bought a variant on this tablet from sellout.woot a year ago and have had no problems. I do need to upgrade the ram (mine came with 1g), but I've enjoyed it for casual use. I use my desktop and wacom for my primary computer and photoshop, but the tablet is fun for when I'm on the go.

Of note: those recovery disks aren't going to do you any good, what with not having an optical drive. Ha.

kevinhargrove wrote:It responds to stylus only.

I have used hp models in the past and they have been stylus only.

kevinhargrove wrote:It responds to stylus only.

This is correct, stylus only, which can be a positive or negative depending on how you look at it.

Actually tablets are very useful, but if you've never used one before it's difficult to understand.

This HP uses 1.8" PATA HDs. Those are increasingly difficult to find, a concern for upgrades or replacements down the road. All the HD manufacturers are switching ti 1.8" SATA drives and discontinuing PATA (just like the 2.5" & 3.5" drives did before)

Yes, I own one (my job provided it to me), and you must use an HP stylus. Other than that, it's a pretty sweet machine, though it does seem to get hot.

In the additional photos on the item description page, there is a photo of the keyboard which is under the screen (if you lift and swivel the screen).

Also, it had integrated Bluetooth so you can use a Bluetooth wireless mouse/keyboard.

I just got a ThinkPad with integrated Bluetooth and this works great. Actually, if I didn't just buy the Lenovo/IBM a month ago I'd probably go for this. I've sworn off HP consumer laptops too, but this is the business line and seems to be a much better animal.

Vista Business installation discs, it comes with. Does it also come with a license? :-p

chris12345 wrote:So it has no optical drive, but comes with XP Tablet and Vista Business discs. I give up. How do you use them?

With a magical, wondrous invention called the "external DVD drive".

My husband is wanting a tablet. He uses auto cad for home design and construction management. Is this the type that would work for him?

For the record, a bunch of people are referring to it as having a stylus and that's incorrect. It's actually referred to as a pen in this case. The reason is that a stylus is just a plastic / metal stick, and the pens for these are more sophisticated than that.

To put it simply, you get much better writing quality on a Wacom active digitizer like this has than on a resistive touchscreen using a stylus.

And to the person above who says to get the tx2 instead.... well if you want to pay the same for a heavier computer that is hotter, and gets less battery life, with markedly worse build quality, go ahead.

As for me, I'll stick to their business-class products.

(Hint, Dell makes a much better quality, business-class multitouch tablet that I would recommend a million times over before suggesting the tx2.)

victoriasun wrote:I'm fairly certain this one is the convertible type; the screen swivels around to be just a tablet or a tablet + keyboard.

Sweet... The pictures that woot! used this time does the machine no justice. However I am still very very tempted to get one.

Moses would never have smashed the tablet if it was an HP.

I have this model, except mine does not have the webcam, it only has a 1.2ghz proc, and a 100gb hard drive. This is a very good deal. I paid $800 for mine (along with an extended battery and the dock).

It is very good for school, and I imagine it is good for work as well.

The bottleneck on mine is definitely the 4200 rpm hard drive. If I had a SSD it would be much faster, but even now it outperforms my old laptop (which was a P4 3.4ghz dual core).

I have not had any issues with the swiveling screen, and for the issues I have had (I wanted to downgrade to XP and one of the keys on the keyboard broke) HP has been very good.

I am very tempted to pick this one up, since it's a 600mhz increase... but I don't think I will.

This isn't a bad deal to buy three and flip them on e-bay or craigslist. You'll probably make $300 on each one.

Uhm... other than that... I think this is a good deal. You will want to get the extended battery (I get between 3.5 and 5 hours on both batteries for a total of 7 to 10 hours depending on what I'm doing and the settings).

Anyway, very good deal. Wish this showed up a year ago.

Also, the screen is bigger than you think, and can pump out a respectable resolution. If you have decent vision, you will not have a problem.

As for gaming... I wouldn't recommend it, but I can play the newest version of Madden on it with low to medium settings, and Need For Speed: Pro Street on low settings. Project64 (an N64 emulator) also runs with no problems.

edit: And to whoever asked about the stylus... yes it responds to stylus only. I believe it is magnetic... which is good in the long run. I've had it for almost a year now and still no screen scratches... which is amazing since while I was in school I was using the tablet functionality to take notes 6 hours a day.

@chris12345: "So it has no optical drive, but comes with XP Tablet and Vista Business discs. I give up. How do you use them?"

You either hook up a USB cd player (it will also boot off of a thumb drive), or you can buy the dock from HP (I recommend it).

As for the person who asked about the keyboard... yes it has a keyboard.

kenley26 wrote:My husband is wanting a tablet. He uses auto cad for home design and construction management. Is this the type that would work for him?

I'm a construction management major. It will work for 2d rendering... but if you get into the 3d stuff like BIM... I have a feeling it will choke. I was actually planning on installing Rivet on this next weekend to see how it will do, but I don't have high expectations.

But it sounds like he just uses autocad to make floorplans, in which case this will be fine.

I recently had to check things out floor by floor in a building, and having the dwgs on my tablet really helped out, as I didn't have to carry a stack of papers with me.

molerner wrote:Vista Business installation discs, it comes with. Does it also come with a license? :-p

Yes.

teamcoltra wrote:Does this have a keyboard?? I googled and it looks like others have a keyboard but I know that typically the lower priced Tablets are tablet only with no physical keyboard.

Are there still tablet PCs being made with no (attached) keyboards? I don't think one of those has come from a major (i.e., non-niche-focused) manufacturer for quite some time.

I do see that some do keep supplying the niche, e.g. Motion Computing (new slate model came out this year), but niche focus seems to come with quite a price - the new J3400 slate, far from being less expensive, is selling for north of $2K...

IOW, it doesn't seem that "slate" tablet PCs are lower priced anymore. Sounds like the market, such as it is, has spoken...

oio wrote:Actually tablets are very useful, but if you've never used one before it's difficult to understand.

This HP uses 1.8" PATA HDs. Those are increasingly difficult to find, a concern for upgrades or replacements down the road. All the HD manufacturers are switching ti 1.8" SATA drives and discontinuing PATA (just like the 2.5" & 3.5" drives did before)

My next plan is to put a SSD in this. You can't get bigger than a 120gb 1.8" PATA anyway.

sidecarsally wrote:Moses would never have smashed the tablet if it was an HP.

"Wait, Moses! I can put Windows 7 on that for you - give that a try first!"

Sorry, I feel like I am spamming this...

But it runs Vista and Windows 7 like a charm.

You can also install Linux on it (I use debian...), although you do need to make a few changes in the xorg.conf file for the pen to work.

There's even a project to get OSX working on it (which is marginally working, but not my cup of tea).

All in all, it's a very solid machine... if you take a lot of notes for work or school, or need a machine that will give you good battery life, this is a great price for a great machine.

kevinhargrove wrote:It responds to stylus only.

Yes, it only responds to the stylus.

flakeyblakee wrote:So, uh, does this have a webcam, or no?


Integrated camera: Integrated 2 MP camera (1600×1200 max resolution) on select models

I find it funny that this is marked as a quality post, and Woot itself doesn't know what laptops it is selling.

Just thought I'd mention, since I couldn't find it in woot's listed specs and the low-contrast photos weren't helpful:

This unit has a SD Card Slot on the right side, and there seems to be an ExpressCard/54 slot on the left side.

I thought about getting it until i saw that it has the same crappy ass resolution as most tablets that are coming out now adays. I've got an X61 Tablet from Lenovo, love it, has a 1440x1050 resolution, looks beautiful. My girlfriend got a tx2 hp with that same 1200x900 resolution, looks like scaffolding. Why do mfgs do this! grr.

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