llvllonk


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Just got it work, I got about 60 channels! Love it...let me see if it's junk channels.

ringobob


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There's no such thing as over-the-air analog anymore, not since... June? It got cut off nationally, you'll only receive digital now. So, that has nothing to do with this product.

OTA reception is always a bit of a hit or miss operation. If you're used to just getting cable and not messing with reception, it can be frustrating and confusing. Here's a couple things to keep in mind:

1) Each station is broadcast from a single unique location. If you point your antenna towards that location, you'll get better reception than otherwise, and sometimes these stations can be located far apart from each other relative to where you are.

2) Reception can be blocked by tall obstacles (buildings, trees, etc). If there are a lot of these things between you and the source of the broadcast, you'll have a harder time getting a signal.

3) The higher you place the antenna off the ground, the better your chances of receiving a good signal are. Your own house can block the signal just as effectively as a tall building next to you.

4) You'll start to run into the limits of the broadcast power somewhere between 20-50 miles from the source, depending on the terrain and the type of antenna (this could be drastically reduced if conditions are really poor, or even improved on if you have just the right antenna).

5) The antenna included with this product is just about the lowest rung on the totem pole. You'd get better results with an amplified antenna, and far better results with one that's meant to be roof or attic mounted.

6) In the digital age, there's no such thing as static. This means you'll get a crystal clear picture, or nothing at all. If you're on the edge, it'll look like the picture is skipping.

There are a few websites out there to help you find the location of the stations near you, and the type of signal strength you should be expecting. They may all say something different, so reliability is a concern, but you should at least be able to figure out where to point your antenna. One such site is www.antennaweb.org, I'm sure the others have been linked earlier in this thread.

I got this thing specifically to test out the viability of dropping basic analog cable and just getting free OTA digital TV (I wanted something I could hook up to my laptop and walk around my house with). For reference, I'm about 40 miles from most of the channels in my area, most sites list me as basically marginal for being able to receive any of them, and I've got some trees but not too many. I was able to receive 2 channels perfectly with the included antenna and no specific "tuning", and several more became available when I actively selected the best spot in my house and adjusted the antenna to improve the signal. That's enough to get me to pursue a better antenna option and actually try to make a go of this (much better antennas can be had for as little as $40, depending on where you can put it). YMMV, of course, but so far I'm pleased with the results.

Hopefully all of this info helps someone else figure out how to get reception, or at least why they are not.

phonmeister


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Just got mine today in Los Angeles. I have Windows 7 Professional on a 3-year-old 17-inch Dell Inspiron and it works great with the ATI Catalyst Media Center...for about 10 minutes. Then it freezes. I also can't get the EPG, or guide to work. I got it to work with Windows Media Center, but I had to switch the resolution to 1280 x 800. It's choppy and out of sync for me at 1920 x 1200. The EPG works perfectly as well. I also tested it on a Phillips antenna I had on my HDTV and it works a lot better. I picked up more channels. I tried it outside and picked up even MORE channels and managed to get about 75 channels. I haven't tested recording yet, but so far so good!

waacodemon


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@ringobob

I like like 60-70 miles from minneapolis, where alot of the channels, im assuming are being broadcasted from. I get 4 channels right now and those are even a little bit more choppy. I got significantly more channels when i used windows media center over the catalyst program this came with, but none came in. They told me what was playing and all that but no pic or sound. The 4 channels i get now are like a worship one, ION, another ION and PBS (little kid shows)

I just wanna watch my damn football games. lol

I once ate a cricket.

xerofilter


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I live in Northeast Oklahoma and I still haven't received my woot.

bgslaw


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xerofilter wrote:I live in Northeast Oklahoma and I still haven't received my woot.



I am within 25 miles of the warehouse and still haven't received mine yet either. They shipped it from Dallas To Fort Worth and now it seems I am waiting around for someone to take it to the post office to send it to my house in Fort Worth.

BJ

infiniteloop88


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The ATI media center only detects ~8 channels, after checking out the signals from the antennaweb.org site, I manually added them all in WatchHDTV and I'm getting great signals, but no picture or audio, le sigh.

ammata


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got it to work......seems to only work with my media center, cant get it to work on the catalyst. pretty clear

infiniteloop88


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Turns out I just have creamy and delicious signal reception from certain channels. Hooking up a cable directly from the wall, I get 60-70 channels.

It's crappy quality though. Probably be better just to get a better antennae for HD.

jimdevico


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Got mine today. I'm in Los Angeles about 24 miles from the antennae.

I had to fiddle with the antennae a bit but finally got it working on Windows 7 with Media Center and am receiving more channels than I want. I just watched the Laker game on it. I love this thing. I wish I had bought more.

asleepyman


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infiniteloop88 wrote:did you remove the red plug thing? ;)


edit: Anyone have recommendations for FREE software that i could use instead of catalyst media center or windows media center? hopefully ill get more channels



GB-PVR is free: http://www.gbpvr.com/

ajac09


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xerofilter wrote:I live in Northeast Oklahoma and I still haven't received my woot.



I live in norman got mine friday.

YouCantWootThis


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Arrive yesterday. The ATI software has changed a lot since my last All-In_Wonder. I really liked that version. This one tries to look more like MCE, which I never have liked...

Question for all: How do I make the ATI software run in full-screen mode? Is it limited to a specific resolution? My laptop display is 1680x1050.

Is it possible that this thing is limited to something less, like 1366x768? That sure wouldn't meet the spirit of HD...

I am going to try it on a Vista PC where I can also use MCE, but that one is currently running a Pinnacle HD stick at 1920x1080, so who knows what conflicts that will create with the underwhelming Pinnacle drivers...

bigjimmy007


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Still waiting in Minnesota. I got the tracking number from Woot three days ago, but FedEx still has no record of it. Something tells me it's gonna show up at my door before FedEx even has a clue.

YouCantWootThis


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ajac09 wrote:I live in norman got mine friday.



Go Huskers!

xerofilter


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ajac09 wrote:I live in norman got mine friday.



Not fair!

YouCantWootThis


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I figured out the "full screen" thing. If you click on the frame of the video window, it changes to full screen. Esc puts it back in a window. Not something the average user would find, but it works.

For the money, I like this device enough to recommend it. The software isn't great, but it's better than the Pinnacle software.

Disappointing that I haven't figured out how to get into full-screen mode from the remote. Anyone figured that out yet?

ajac09


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xerofilter wrote:Not fair!



lol which is funny to casue when I checked the tracking online it said not sceduled till monday

Motz


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It said it was coming Tuesday but I got them today. I tried to just plug it into my Windows 7 machine and that didn't work. I installed the drivers that someone posted from the ATI website and that didn't work. I read online to just simply install everything that was on the disc and after a reboot everything worked.

It works fine with Windows Media Center and extends to Xbox 360

Picked up 36 channels and they all have great signal strength. I love this thing. now just to get myself an Aspire Revo

bobbyjalota


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Since this is a fed-ex smart post who delivers this local post office to your mail box? thats what fed-ex told me.
P.S still have not received mine.

Motz


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bobbyjalota wrote:Since this is a fed-ex smart post who delivers this local post office to your mail box? thats what fed-ex told me.
P.S still have not received mine.



That is correct. USPS dropped mine off today.

firethorne


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I just got mine today, but am having problems getting it to work. I'm using Windows 7 64-bit.

I use the "Install Catalyst" on the disc provided but nothing seems to come up after that. Plugging it in, it recogizes it as ATI TV Wonder 600 USB 2.0, and goes off to Windows Update to try to find drivers, but doesn't find any.

Has anyone on Win7-64bit got this to work? If so, what drivers did you use?

71firebird


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YouCantWootThis wrote:I figured out the "full screen" thing. If you click on the frame of the video window, it changes to full screen. Esc puts it back in a window. Not something the average user would find, but it works.

For the money, I like this device enough to recommend it. The software isn't great, but it's better than the Pinnacle software.

Disappointing that I haven't figured out how to get into full-screen mode from the remote. Anyone figured that out yet?



You just hit the OK button and it'll go full screen. The button that looks like an enter key takes it back.

Motz


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I clicked custom and made sure that I installed everything on the disc, then I rebooted and it worked inside media center

firethorne wrote:I just got mine today, but am having problems getting it to work. I'm using Windows 7 64-bit.

I use the "Install Catalyst" on the disc provided but nothing seems to come up after that. Plugging it in, it recogizes it as ATI TV Wonder 600 USB 2.0, and goes off to Windows Update to try to find drivers, but doesn't find any.

Has anyone on Win7-64bit got this to work? If so, what drivers did you use?



bobbyjalota


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I'm having problem installing it on windows 7 64 bit. I cant seem to get it pass the analyze screen. says enumerating source media for installable packages. And apparently ATI website does not have the drivers for
windows 7.

outer78


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bobbyjalota wrote:I'm having problem installing it on windows 7 64 bit. I cant seem to get it pass the analyze screen. says enumerating source media for installable packages. And apparently ATI website does not have the drivers for
windows 7.



Not sure what screen your talking about...is it part of windows looking for the driver or did you put the disc in?

I have Windows 7 Professional 64 bit and its working fine(except for the big tree outside my window)

So what I did was just put the disc in and installed everything except for the included media player because I didnt want it and some have said that it doesn't work on 7 x64 too well.

Once I did that I just went into Media Center and then set up the tv tuner for my area. After that its just a little tweaking and messing around with it to make it better. Its also a bit of a resource hog, I am running an AMD 945 cpu(quad core) overclocked to 3.3ghz and its taking up around 10-15% of it. It doesn't affect me at all really but for those with slower non quads it seems like this could affect the choppiness of it or maybe even a delay in sound.

And was this purchase worth it? lol nah I think its easier to just leave my room and go down the two flights of stairs to watch it on my 65 incher cause it gets more channels. Also the antenna doesn't seem to want to pick up all of the channels that are supposed to be in my area so I will be looking into hooking it up to the cable jack in my room i guess.

Hope you fix your problem and for those that can't find the driver for windows 7 just stick the disc in and it'll work with Media Center.

mdbelt


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Got mine today. Found updated drivers here:

http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx?type=2.5&product=2.5.1.3.3.3.3&contentType=GPU+Download+Detail&ostype=Windows+Vista+-+64-Bit+Edition&keywords=&items=20

Edit: Hmmm. Confused. If I look at Diamond's website here's the updated drivers:

http://www.diamondmm.com/TVW600USB.php

EddieAngel333


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YouCantWootThis wrote:Arrive yesterday. The ATI software has changed a lot since my last All-In_Wonder. I really liked that version. This one tries to look more like MCE, which I never have liked...

Question for all: How do I make the ATI software run in full-screen mode? Is it limited to a specific resolution? My laptop display is 1680x1050.

Is it possible that this thing is limited to something less, like 1366x768? That sure wouldn't meet the spirit of HD...

I am going to try it on a Vista PC where I can also use MCE, but that one is currently running a Pinnacle HD stick at 1920x1080, so who knows what conflicts that will create with the underwhelming Pinnacle drivers...



1366x768 is 720p

mostly ALL HD TV is broadcast in 720p

some do 1080i

and some (very little) do 1080p <--- OFF THE NET NOT TV ... like NetFlix

the standard is 720p which is HD

also 1080p is what you call "BlueRay"
which is mostly DVD movies
the HD 600 is for HD "TV"

ohhh yeah mine came today

I'm a little pissed, they sent me a "Diamond" version NOT AN ATI as specified in the add !
I will be writing our dear friends at Woot later tonight !
another bait and switch move on thier part !

Did anyone else get the diamond version ?

also check your setting to see if you have them set wrong
OTA Broadcasting is always going to be 720p

woden325


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ringobob wrote:There's no such thing as over-the-air analog anymore, not since... June? It got cut off nationally, you'll only receive digital now. So, that has nothing to do with this product.



That's not quite the case. Full-power analog got the heave-ho in June, but low-power analog stations may continue to broadcast. Some people in the boonies may be receiving only analog signals off of low-power repeaters and translators.

jdmfit


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I live in Los Angeles and I recieved my box today 8)
FedEx says to be delivered on the 18 Nov. Can't wait to try it.

xerofilter


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Got mine today even though fedex says it's still in Canada.

Hooked it up and it works like a top. Local over the air HD channels are crisp and beautiful. Then hooked it up to the cable (non HD) and the picture is really good.

Totally worth $25

ojaieric


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Got mine today, but the antenna tip is wrong type, and won't work with the tuner that plugs into my laptop.

Anyone else has that problem?

ojaieric


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Taylorich wrote:Okay I'm ready for the ridicule.

Is anyone else having problems screwing in the antenna to the antenna base? The base of mine doesn't have threads, but only bands of metal, but the antenna portion has threads...have tried every way possible to get this thing on. Anyone else?


______________________________________________
I am having the same problem, I believe I revived the wrong antenna unit with my tuner, both units have different type of tips. The tuner has a screw on type and the antenna wire has a plug in type, no threads.

Motz


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I got 2 tuners, I plugged in the second one and Media center picked it up right away. From what I read W7 support 4 tuners so hopefully woot will have this in a wootoff so i can get 2 more.

I would love to be able to extend WMC all over the house.

libertyfanboy


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Just received mine a couple days ago. Works GREAT in Windows XP with the bundled software for plugging in a VCR to get some classic home movies. (And I was about to spend 200 bucks on an analog-to-digital converter... pfffft)

I'm going to now read past entries in this forum here to get some ideas to get it working in Linux and Mac OS X ... to record the analog input, that is.

I'm satisfied with this woot.

phil20986


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I seem to be in the minority of people who have a choppy picture even when it's up around 99% (I also can't get the program guide or remote to work, but that's not as big an issue for me right now). Any ideas of settings I could change or another program I could run to get a smoother picture running Vista Business? I don't have Windows Media Center, and GB-PVR doesn't seem to want to function on my computer. Ideas?

I also used to be able to go back and forth between analog and digital signal, but now I don't have that option. Frustrating, but I'm not giving up yet!

pngwen


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I got mine today and I have been enjoying it greatly! I am running Ubuntu linux, so I thought I would share the winning recipe for getting this to work. First, you need a recent linux kernel. If you are running Karmic Koala, you are already there. The important bit of it is the v4l driver, so if this doesn't work, you'll want to update the v4l drivers. My kernel is 2.6.31.

Ok, the only things I had to do were install the firmware and install some viewer software. The commands to do that are:


wget http://steventoth.net/linux/hvr1400/xc3028L-v36.fw
cp xc3028L-v36.fw /lib/firmware



After you do that, install dvb-apps and some tv viewer. MythTv works, though I would recommend Me-Tv unless you want to make your computer a dedicated PVR (which is what mythtv is meant to do). So the commands to get this step are:


aptitude install dvb-apps
aptitude install me-tv



Before running me-tv for the first time, you will need to get a listing of your channels. The way to do this is with the scan utility. For example, to scan for broadcast stations:


scan /usr/share/dvb/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB > channels.conf



From there, run me-tv and import that channels.conf file. If you want to do cable, just look in /usr/share/dvb/atsc and it should be pretty obvious how to do it.

I have been watching broadcast tv on my computer all day (which is a lenovo netbook s10-2, btw) and it is flawless!

Enjoy!

shirizaki


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I'm in ohio and I received mine.

After installing the 64 bit drivers and restarting the thing worked like a charm. My area only broadcasts like 16 channels, and I can get half of them. Skipped the first few frames in WMC but after that picture was as good as a high def TV rip from the internet. Granted I live in a valley and had the antennae pointed at a wall.

I haven't gotten a chance to play with the alternate video input.

The remote works for me, apparently a little application stays open to receive and translate the IR signals. 2 things I'd like to mention:

The USB dongle has what looks like an LED on one side (the side opposite the alt. video input cords). It's the IR reciever.

There's a 1~2 second delay from button press and reception. And the remote only works in WMC (or the ati program I'd assume) from what I can tell, because it wouldn't do jack in boxee or windows otherwise.



Otherwise I'm happy with the purchase. It means that I can capture SD video from the few VCRs I have laying around. And some people charge a pretty penny for such a thing it might pay for itself!

brian5888


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WOOT! This is my first purchase and though I have a some complaints ab the product, for $20 it was still a good deal!

I've been wanting a DVR/PVR and also a tv tuner for my laptop to be able to watch network TV, news, sports, etc, anywhere and this looks like it is going to work well enough despite some drawbacks though I wasn't expecting BlueRay quality for this price(unfortunately my laptop is curently in need of repair but I tested it out on two desktops in the meanwhile).

Pros: It works! OTA Digital TV and PVR on your desktop or laptop (or both, thanks to USB) for less than most converter boxes even with a coupon!

It picks up the major OTA network channels, records decent enough quality for OTA and has a file converter so I can even play recorded tv on an iPod, PSP or Windows Mobile device. The Timeshifting feature is nice to have to pause live TV and it's light enough on resources I could browse with several tabs open while it played with no problems running on XP Home w/ a 2Ghz Dual CPU and 3Gb Ram

My favorite alternate antennae fit nicely(see below) which will make packing the setup in a laptop bag even easier.

Cons: The ATI Catalyst Media Center has some real poor points and the supplied antennae wasn't that great

The EPG aka 'program guide' either shows only info for a few hours of a few channels or nothing at all, instead of the advertised two weeks schedule (this was a big disappointment).

The tv channels picked up by the ATI software wizard are not listed in either order by channel number or alphabetical by call station letters and are instead assigned a number of one through however many channels there are, (even if you rename them). Any renaming of channels to help you find what you want or 'deselecting' of unwanted channels is erased when you scan for channels again so you are back to square one(very annoying!).

The supplied telescoping antennae was inferior to the tiny 7' wire antennae borrowed off an old Satellite receiver box that atttached directly to the tuner coax, so no cable needed(it will be great to use with my laptop because it's even more compact size and no need to worry about that magnet too close too something that could lose data in a laptop bag.)

The 'timeshifting', pausing live tv and one button recording is good for thirty minutes ONLY (though 'scheduled recording' can be chosen for longer recording)

The remote seems really, really weak (maybe needs a new battery (these were prob made years ago).

Didn't like that this was a 'Diamond' ATI Tuner but that's the least of my complaints

Despite my bitchin' and moanin' I'm satisfied with my first ....WOOT!

xerofilter


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FYI: This does work with Playstation 3. Although I had to use the ATI software couldn't figure out how to set it up in Media Center.