Mydnyte wrote:
They also took one of those magnets and got too close to their LCD monitor - and while it still works, it's definitely scarred for life...

Scarred because of the magnetic effect, or scarred because of the impact when the magnet latched on to something in the monitor?

AustinMiniMan wrote:I don't think I'd use this much for writing on the screen, but I'm going to be going to college in the fall and would really like to use something like this for transferring notes from paper in real-time. I like it because you'd only be carrying a pen and the sensor, not a bulky tablet.

The description doesn't mention anything about flash memory or capacity so this may not have the ability to store your writing without a laptop. If that's the case, you'd have to find desk space for both a laptop and a paperpad to hook this thing to.

Your best bet is to use a good old fashion botebook and then scan the notes in later with a scanner. That way, the only thing you'd be carrying is a pen and notebook.

Alternatively, get a tablet PC which would allow you to write directly on the screen. Mine came with OneNote which has the image of a lined sheet of paper onscreen. You can write, draw, erase and cut-and-paste your notes as well as have the computer convert the scrbbles into typed notes. As a bonus, the webcam can capture visual imagss (i.e. slides, medical procedures, etc) and the built-in mic can record the lecture as you write. A brand new Tablet PC can run you $1000+, but some nice convertible Fujitsus can cost as little as $350 (convertible means tht it also has a keyboard, which adds weight and bulk but it's nice to have). If you're really on a tight budget, ebay has some old Fujitsus for as little as $100. I have one and it runs great.

So basically, it's a Wii pen

Jonas4321 wrote:Okay, but have you had much success with Windows and handwriting recognition? I have used several tablets (and I print rather than use cursive when I write normally, which is supposedly better for recognition), and I find it so error-ridden that it stops my thought process completely. Maybe I write poorly, who knows.

Yep, I use my Tablet PC with handwriting recognition more than any other computer and it does just fine. I get about 85% accuracy when writing fast cursive and about 95% accuracy when printing. The errors are not a problem because I can fix them later when I review and edit the paper. I don't let them interrupt my flow as I write. As for you writing poorly, let's just say that I have typical physician penmanship...

Has anyone found the Windows XP software? It mentions it in the sale with no link. Would instantly purchase if someone actually had a link to the software.

slmartin5586 wrote:Has anyone actually tried one of these on a laptop bigger than 15.4 inches?
What would happen if I tried using it on my 17" widescreen laptop? Would it just ignore the excess screen area?

According to a review on PriceBat (http://www.pricebat.ca/Hantech-Tablo-For-Laptop-Tablet-Conversion-Kit.p_10090228/), this will NOT work well on larger laptop screens:

This works well on a 15" laptop, accuracy and response is very good.OS Support:OSX:Does not work out of box with OSX (snow leopard). It is detected but for some reason unless you move it very fast, it thinks you are holding the left mouse button constantly. This makes it unusable in OSX.XP:With the supplied CD (downloadable from their site as well) everything worked great. I was able to calibrate it on a 15"laptop and play around with the ink application.Windows 7:No need to install drivers, works out of box. May take a bit of configuring the pen so it works as desired, but you do not need to install any additional software. The only issue I had while testing it on windows 7 was due to my laptop screen being 17".Linux: I have not tried it with linux so I am not sure if it works or not. The manufacturer does not provide linux drivers.In terms of accuracy, the pen seems to be most accurate in the centre of the screen. As you go out towards the corners it becomes slightly less accurate. It works great on a 15" laptop, but on my 17" laptop It was not able to pickup the edges of the screen. The neat thing about this product, is that you can place it on a table and use it as a notepad. I tested it with the Math Equation program which comes with windows 7 (in accessories folder). It worked very well. So even if you have a larger lcd, it may be useful for writing instead of buying a tablet.It comes with a lot of extra stuff (in my opinion). Mine came with 4 extra felt tips and 3 extra metal tips. I have not yet sued the metal tips, but the felt tips work well on both paper, and a laptop screen.It attaches to you laptop via magnet. It comes with a metal rectangle that you stick to your laptop case (double sided tape, comes with extra tape as well). This way the actual unit is removable while carrying your computer. If you are using it as a notepad (on paper/desk) the device (sensor part) folds apart so it rests perfectly on any flat surface.It think it is an excellent product. The only issues I have is that it doesn't work on a 17" lcd, and it would have been nice to come with 2 metal pieces, for those with more than 1 laptop or monitor.

roadhunter wrote:If you have your netbook open in front of you, you can take notes much faster by typing them. There are pens like this that record what you write so you can plug it in and transfer it to your computer later. That makes sense, as you can use it when you don't have a computer with you. I just don't see why anyone would want to write when their computer is sitting right in front of them. Typing is way, way faster.

1) Some people never learned to type
2) Writing allows you to alter the flow of your notes, i.e. with arrows. Cutting and pasting is slower and doesn't always work.
3) Medical classes often have lots of diagrams. Same goes for math and physics classes. Try finding Greek letters or math notations quickly on the keyboard. My quantum physics class had notations that don't even exist on a standard scientific character set, i.e. you can't do a Feynman diagram using a keyboard.
4) AND YOU CAN'T DOODLE WHEN YOU TYPE!!!! Emoticons just don't do it for me...

I also find laptops distracting when I teach, especially that annoying Apple logo which some students leave on.

I can't imagine using a pen to press on a LCD screen would be good for the monitor??

That has me a little leery about buying this, tablet screens are made to be pressed on.

I feel a great need to pretend to be a graphics designer...

In for one! This just looks like a handy and fun gadget to have around.

ZTR1760 wrote:I can't imagine using a pen to press on a LCD screen would be good for the monitor??

That has me a little leery about buying this, tablet screens are made to be pressed on.

The tips intended for touching the screen are made of felt. If you have something on your screen (such as a bit of gritty dust), then it could cause scratches. But it shouldn't be a problem if you keep your screen clean.

in for 1 - slashgear video sold me... i can see myself using it in meetings and with my toddler... i hope i get the black one!

i have win7 and xp boxes so hopefully everything is compatible... just hope i dont see this in a wootoff in 2 weeks for 20 less...

btw.. is woot pricing everything under 45 so we texans cant use TAXSUCKS??!! comeon guys! I'm NATIVE!

Well Woot without any help on the software for XP guess I'm not picking one up : (

roadhunter wrote:No, no, no! A tablet PC recognizes pressure on the screen. Just get her a pointy stick until she finds her nice stylus or buys a new one.

That "get her a pointy stick" comment is so Freudian and phallic that any further comment on my part will probably get me suspended...

So I'll make a practical comment instead. It's untrue that Tablet PC screens are pressure sensitive. My Fujitsu, for example, has a hard glass screen and does not respond to touching. The pen's nib is magnetic and sensors in the screen respond to it even when the tip is about an inch away. This is important because Tablet PCs are meant to simulate writing on paper. And when you write on paper, your hands are usuallyt resting on the paper as you write. If the screen is pressure sensitive (like an iPad), you can't rest your hands on it.

BTW, replacement stylii sre expensive. Even my passive pen goes for about $20. Active ones (which uses a battery but offer additional features) can cost more than $50.

Demonstration Video:

http://www.geekazine.com/news/ces2009/hantech-tablo-tablet-functionality-with-your-pc-ces-2009

Apologies if it was posted.

From the description...

Specifications:

■Memory : 170mm-358mm diagonal (15.4 inch)

Wow, that's one HUGE memory chip!

Anyone know how well it does with recognizing drunkin' handwriting?

I mean your having a meeting, a few beverages, trying to take notes, them bam, "what the hell is this I wrote?"

Would this work just as well for a mac? I checked the web but couldn't find a definite answer yes or no.

sdc100 wrote:The description doesn't mention anything about flash memory or capacity so this may not have the ability to store your writing without a laptop. If that's the case, you'd have to find desk space for both a laptop and a paperpad to hook this thing to.

Your best bet is to use a good old fashion botebook and then scan the notes in later with a scanner. That way, the only thing you'd be carrying is a pen and notebook.

Alternatively, get a tablet PC which would allow you to write directly on the screen. Mine came with OneNote which has the image of a lined sheet of paper onscreen. You can write, draw, erase and cut-and-paste your notes as well as have the computer convert the scrbbles into typed notes. As a bonus, the webcam can capture visual imagss (i.e. slides, medical procedures, etc) and the built-in mic can record the lecture as you write. A brand new Tablet PC can run you $1000+, but some nice convertible Fujitsus can cost as little as $350 (convertible means tht it also has a keyboard, which adds weight and bulk but it's nice to have). If you're really on a tight budget, ebay has some old Fujitsus for as little as $100. I have one and it runs great.

I said "from paper in real time", i.e. I want to have it attached to my laptop while I write on a notepad next to it. I'm most likely going to University of Richmond, where most of the classrooms have tons of deskspace. In addition, my laptop is only a 12"(Lenovo X200), so desk space shouldn't be a problem. So I just want it to emulate what I'm writing on the paper onto the screen. So my question was: how could is it as a pen? Is it comfortable to write with on paper?

No offense, but you've now posted the same thing twice. I understand that you're apparently in a med-school with miniature desks, so this solution isn't ideal for you. But I don't want to have to lug two completely separate systems around(I want my laptop with me), so I thought this might be a good solution. I know I could scan it, but the chances of me doing that once it's off my mind and I'm out of class are quite slim.

I'll have a specific notepad for each class that won't always be with me, but I almost always have my laptop with me, so if I wanted to quickly review notes it would be nice to have the copies stored.

So... again.... anyone know how comfortable it is to write on paper with the pen?

distantg wrote:First off, this thing doesn't tout a pressure sensitivity, nor can I find one anywhere on the internet. This probably means you're going to get a pen that is capable of drawing solid lines, and only solid lines.

The Woot description states, "■Perfect brush effect by speed pressure technology." That sounds like the nib does measure pressure (i.e. via peizoelectric strain guage). Furthermore, it sounds like the resulting brush texture depends on pressure as well as the speed of the stroke.

Wants to know if it works with Suns 'OpenOffice'?

so what is this used for exactly???

wootmaster78 wrote:I just ordered it. I have a Wacom Cintiq but the thing is large (20" wide screen and over 20lbs) and a lot of times I want to sit back on the couch and draw. Of coarse this thing probably is horrible for line work but is probably perfect for coloring line work already done. For $40 it's worth a try and is better than me having to buy the 12" Cintiq as a 2nd tablet at $900-1000.
There is a great review from artist use and video at http://www.slashgear.com/hantech-siso-tablo-review-finally-2644675/

Bamboooooooooo $99 if that fails. I can lay back on my bed and enjoy life when I don't want to be up in my Cintiq's face.

From the description...

■Pen sends out information though ultrasonic and infrared rays to the receiver that recognizes the location of the pen

Ugh, I wonder what Fido will make of the ultrasonic noise. Your writing will probbly sound as pleasant as finger nails scratching on a chalkboard to the doggie. Poor Fido.

rowanator wrote:I know that it says 15.4", but I have a 16" laptop. Anyone know if this thing has a chance of working on a 16" model or would it just not respond in certain areas of my screen?

Break out a ruler, willing to bet your laptop is actually 15.4" and the marketing folks got to you. They may exist but I have yet to actually see one that was 16" (measure diagonally)

Is it compatible with Mac OS X 10.6?

roadhunter wrote:No, no, no! A tablet PC recognizes pressure on the screen. Just get her a pointy stick until she finds her nice stylus or buys a new one.

Not necessarily correct. My tablet recognizes the pen moving over the screen for many things - depends on how she uses it and how her tablet works.

dbody wrote:so what is this used for exactly???

It's used to capture your handwriting into a computer as you write, almost like an etch-a-sketch. It does this by recording your pen movement, like GPS can draw a map of a car's progress. While the idea sounds interesting. it's nothing that can't be done more simply (and economically) with a scanner.

We gave earlier generation models to several of our physicians. Those used special graph paper to guage position. After a few days, we decided that these pens were more of a novelty than practical. We went back to scanning, which was often more accurate. In other words, we can think of no situation where we'd need our scribbles immediately stored into the computer. Any drawn diagram that needed to be sent immediately could be faxed or emailed as a JPG from the webcam.

Jonas4321 wrote:Okay, but have you had much success with Windows and handwriting recognition? I have used several tablets (and I print rather than use cursive when I write normally, which is supposedly better for recognition), and I find it so error-ridden that it stops my thought process completely. Maybe I write poorly, who knows.

(EDIT) Oh, cool. You can change your avatar.

Note that even the best handwriting recognition is not 100% perfect. It's a pain to go back and find and correct things - so add that to any handwriting evaluation, too.

Has anyone located a source for additional ball point pen ink tips?

I can't imagine a tip of ink will last very long. And looking at some of the review sites, as well as a google search, I can't seem to find a source for additional pen tips.

Being able to right on a notebook and have it appear on the screen could be very helpful, but not if the ink runs out and there is no identifiable source for replacements.

thx,
jeff

sdc100 wrote:The Woot description states, "■Perfect brush effect by speed pressure technology." That sounds like the nib does measure pressure (i.e. via peizoelectric strain guage). Furthermore, it sounds like the resulting brush texture depends on pressure as well as the speed of the stroke.

Hmmm, I'm betting 'speed pressure technology' is using speed to simulated pressure: go fast for thin lines, slow down for thick.

zilla81 wrote:Ok, I bought this thinking how great it would be to teach, and draw all over your powerpoint. Students would love that. However, I have to ask...

Having a MAGNET hanging out on my screen just doesn't sound like a good idea. Can someone who understands of LCD monitors and webcams tell me if I should have a magnet perched on it.

Sounds like some part of the LCD screen is now magnatized. As to whether you could demagnatize it, I'd want to see someelse who had done this as it might mess up the whole screen or damage the internal structure. (I have demagnatizers from the old days of magnetic tape and I'd not want to try this on a LCD screen.)

SPREADSHEET DATA ENTRY

Does this or some other device allow entering data into a spreadsheet?

Either alphanumeric or even just logical (T/F)?


And if so, can it work with other than Excel and which Excel?

I use an old Wordperfect Quattro & also Open Office.

I'm curious if im the only person COMPLETELY stoked that woot read lust for life. Great book.

Do you think this will work with Evernote?

One quick question:

Will the laser burn my LCD screen?

This guy was not very happy with his:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7944665
[quote="ubuntu forum"]
Unfortunatley[sic], the device itself is a peice[sic] of crap. Its sensor is a clip at the top of the screen, and if you can imagine, any small movement in the sensor totally messes up calibration. Also it works by highly sensitive ultrasonic sensors (the pen emitts[sic] these barely audible clicks), so forget using it when you play music loudly. And overall, it's just not good enough to make me want to use it.
[/quote]

If you don't want to buy this, then you can make your own:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s5EvhHy7eQ

Johnny Chung Lee is the man.

will this work on a windows xp netbook?

blorgo wrote:NOTE:
The are some notebooks that the Siso Tablo does not work with. This is clearly indicated on the outside of the box.

* Toshiba A1XX – A2XX – L3XX Series
* Dell FWXX – CSXX – SXX – SZXX – CXX – 15LN Series

Darn, I have an A105-S4114. Oh, well.

Why does this not work with these models?