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Philips 32" 720p LCD HDTV
$299.99 + $5 Shipping
Condition: Refurbished

Product List:
- 1 Philips 32PFL3504D 32" LCD HDTV w/Pixel Plus HD & 3 HDMI

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Does anyone even buy 720p? Why wouldn't you just go for the 1080p?

woot sure does put up a lot of TVs from Philips

but I never see any with Ambilight

Product Website

Manual

Better deal then what Amazon offers...

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-32PFL3505D-F7-32-Inch-Black/dp/B003IT6Z40/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288501418&sr=8-1-fkmr0

Found some reviews

Best buy
Amazon

demondread wrote:Does anyone even buy 720p? Why wouldn't you just go for the 1080p?

720p is more than enough for a 32" television for the bedroom. And it's generally cheaper.

I bought this about a year ago and it was great for 11 months. The picture is good, the built in speakers are good.

However, it did go out after 11 months of daily use, so be sure to pick up your warranty.

I have been wondering about how much difference there really is between 720p and 1080p? Because the prices on the 720p is cheaper... When can you mostly see the difference? Blue Rays and video games or can you see a difference just watching TV?

Previous Woot

Was hoping for something scary. Tv's are not scary...til they die in the middle of your favorite show. AHHHHH!!!!

One would think, that with all the technological know-how, that one could provide adequate user-server response other than 47 second web page download and 29 second inter-web page download... booooo!!!!

mvanco wrote:I have been wondering about how much difference there really is between 720p and 1080p? Because the prices on the 720p is cheaper... When can you mostly see the difference? Blue Rays and video games or can you see a difference just watching TV?

At 32", 1080p is only needed if you use it as a computer monitor.

Why not 199!

a 32" LCD with 720p and a refurb? You'll probably get a brand new one for much less, especially by the end of the year. I've already seen a few posted on various deal sites at the $300 pricepoint. Heck I've even seen some 1080p sets around that price too.

Black friday will easily have some $199-249 32" 720p sets.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/23/technology/lcd_tv_prices/index.htm

This is a weak woot IMO.

mvanco wrote:I have been wondering about how much difference there really is between 720p and 1080p? Because the prices on the 720p is cheaper... When can you mostly see the difference? Blue Rays and video games or can you see a difference just watching TV?

720P and 1080P are the figures they use for the vertical resolution for HDTV screens. For example a HDTV with "720P" would be 1280X720 pixels. While "1080P" is 1920X1080 pixels.
There can either be a "i" or a "p" after the number, these indicate whether the video is interlaced (i), or non-interlaced (p).

Got this same TV when Woot offered back in August. Same price as then. Works great, 720P looks great in HD at this size - got the Square Trade warranty though...

cnet review

ZDnet

retrevo

It really is quite sad to see that woot has become nothing more than a peddler of defective Philips products. Philips must just ship everything it makes out as refurbished since it does not even work long enough to make it out of the factory. I personally have been burned twice by Philips products and will never buy another. (The store I work at also sells their products, and many are returned due to problems such as overheating, cold solder joints, etc.)

Philips has gone the way of Westinghouse. They use the name as a means of selling to those who do not look at the actual quality of the products behind the name. This is why many elderly people who grew up with companies like Westinghouse, RCA, and Philips/Magnavox will purchase these brands today. These companies use their familiar name to get people to buy their products.
In marketing this is called "Brand Recognition" and it is amazingly successful at helping companies maintain sales regardless of the quality of the products that they are selling.

It is good that today is Halloween as this woot, and the one on sellout, should hopefully scare you away from purchasing them.

In all fairness, Philips does make some good products, just not many that I have seen in recent years.

Happy Halloween Everyone!!!! Hope Its Filled With Lots Of Candy!!!

Check out this Reliability Chart.

Here's the article it came from.

1080p Does Matter – Here's When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance vs. Resolution)

Ask HD Beat: What's the deal with 1366 x 768?

redskin92 wrote:720P and 1080P are the figures they use for the vertical resolution for HDTV screens. For example a HDTV with "720P" would be 1280X720 pixels. While "1080P" is 1920X1080 pixels.
There can either be a "i" or a "p" after the number, these indicate whether the video is interlaced (i), or non-interlaced (p).

Many, if not most, 720p (or i) sets have a resolution of 1366x768 rather than 1280x720. They still call these sets 720p(i) though. The only sets I have seen in recent months that use 1280x720 are a few of the Panasonic plasma sets.

NightGhost you always have very helpful information to share. Thanks!

fatdogreggie1 wrote:Many, if not most, 720p (or i) sets have a resolution of 1366x768 rather than 1280x720. They still call these sets 720p(i) though. The only sets I have seen in recent months that use 1280x720 are a few of the Panasonic plasma sets.

Can you link that info, please?...

I'm not hearing good things about this Philips so I searched and found a $316 LG 32" with free shipping (new, not refurb). Spend the extra $11 bucks. It will be worth it, and - much love to woot! - it will probably ship faster.

RRC2000 wrote:a 32" LCD with 720p and a refurb? You'll probably get a brand new one for much less, especially by the end of the year. I've already seen a few posted on various deal sites at the $300 pricepoint. Heck I've even seen some 1080p sets around that price too.

Black friday will easily have some $199-249 32" 720p sets.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/23/technology/lcd_tv_prices/index.htm

This is a weak woot IMO.

Agree.

I got a Proscan (ex-RCA) 1080p 32" from Amazon for $299 about 6 months ago. Awesome set for the price!

I don't know about you all, but when I buy a TV I like to have options when it comes to Inputs.. No Component on this one (For a Wii for instance). Only A/V and HDMI.

How hard could it have been to add a Component Input?

brucedoesbms wrote:Can you link that info, please?...

We have had around 70 different brands/models of 720p HDTV sets through my store and almost all of them had/have a native resolution of 1366x768, which is actually termed WXGA.

The resolution for the 720p(i) format should be, as redskin92 wrote, 1280x720. I am looking into why it is that most sets do not follow this "standard". Below are some of the manufacturers websites that show resolutions of their televisions. All have the 1366x768 native resolution.

Current 32" Sony model
Look under SPECIFICATIONS

Current 32" Panasonic model

Current 32" Samsung model

Current 32" VIZIO model
Look under TECH SPECS

Finally, I was incorrect in an earlier post about Panasonic plasma sets using 1280x720 native resolution. Instead, some of these sets run at 1024x768 native resolution. Link below:

Current 42" Panasonic plasma model

Although I do not have this specific TV, I have had good luck in general with refurbished Philips products, including a 23" LCD TV w/DVD player which is still going strong after 2 1/2 years.

but what happend to the lady that needed a ride ?

o.o

redskin92 wrote:720P and 1080P are the figures they use for the vertical resolution for HDTV screens. For example a HDTV with "720P" would be 1280X720 pixels. While "1080P" is 1920X1080 pixels.
There can either be a "i" or a "p" after the number, these indicate whether the video is interlaced (i), or non-interlaced (p).

Specifically, the p stands for "progressive," as in progressive scan. Progressive scan is basically better as far as TV's are concerned.

devexityspace wrote:I don't know about you all, but when I buy a TV I like to have options when it comes to Inputs.. No Component on this one (For a Wii for instance). Only A/V and HDMI.

How hard could it have been to add a Component Input?

The "Audio L/R in, YPbPr" on the item page refers to component.

720p vs. 720i ...

Three HDMI v1.3 inputs? That's so 2009.

ThatPoshGirl wrote:Three HDMI v1.3 inputs? That's so 2009.

If you're Posh, then give me the Mosh -- how many inputs do you need?

reggaemyelitis wrote:If you're Posh, then give me the Mosh -- how many inputs do you need?

I have two DVRs, blueray player, roku, wii, and eventually googleTV, and maybe an xbox. So, I guess six or sevenish. (Yes, that is two DVRs for one tv... I like tv... and I work for the cable company so I get free cable... so it makes sense...) Although, to be fair, I wouldn't watch 720p with someone else's eyes.

"Guess you’re laugh muscles must be frozen. Heh."
REALLY, WOOT? Your*.

ThatPoshGirl wrote:I have two DVRs, blueray player, roku, wii, and eventually googleTV, and maybe an xbox. So, I guess six or sevenish. (Yes, that is two DVRs for one tv... I like tv... and I work for the cable company so I get free cable... so it makes sense...) Although, to be fair, I wouldn't watch 720p with someone else's eyes.

well then time to get a sound system with HDMI inputs that redirect to the TV or just invest in a HDMI splitter.