satman714 wrote:They SOLD OUT.
PT Barnum was right.

You got that one right. I can't believe people actually bought this POS. Can't say they weren't warned. The next time it comes up, those same people will be back whining about how they can't connect to the App Market, how slow it is, etc...

devcon wrote:You got that one right. I can't believe people actually bought this POS. Can't say they weren't warned. The next time it comes up, those same people will be back whining about how they can't connect to the App Market, how slow it is, etc...

I dunno, I think there could be 1473 people in the USA who aren't looking for an ipad killer, just something to browse the web and check email in wifi hotspots without having to pay for a data plan from a cel carrier.

KamikazeKen wrote:I dunno, I think there could be 1473 people in the USA who aren't looking for an ipad killer, just something to browse the web and check email in wifi hotspots without having to pay for a data plan from a cel carrier.

But my iPad has WiFi, and there is a WiFi only version, and though I have the 3G version, it's not contract based, I pay per-month as I use it.

But I agree, the tablet market is going in full force up against the iPad, this little guy here is the first low-end Tablet I've really seen, I could say the same about netbooks and some of these super low-end Wal-Mart PC's, but you know what, some people love 'em. If they don't know any better, why bother?

KamikazeKen wrote:I dunno, I think there could be 1473 people in the USA who aren't looking for an ipad killer, just something to browse the web and check email in wifi hotspots without having to pay for a data plan from a cel carrier.

... and they will be back here when this is wooted again. Complaining about how browsing the web is slow, how there is no flash, and how checking their email crashes their unit.

Been there, done that. Returned it.

buffaloed wrote:Not directly, but you can install it. Download the app from your computer to an SD card, insert the card in the device and run the app manager to install. You can get the kindle app and many more here: http://www.freewarelovers.com/android/app/kindle

Thank you so very much. That works for me.

Wootalyzer's Pricing Post! - The price of today's woot item is saved here for future reference
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Augen 7" Color Touchscreen Entertainment Tablet PC
$109.99 + $5 Shipping
Condition: Refurbished

Product List:
- 1 Augen GENTOUCH78 Color 7" Touchscreen Tablet PC with Google Android 2.1, 2GB, SD slot, 802.11g

*DISCLAIMER* Wootalyzer! is in no way affiliated with Woot!, and this post may not always be here!

I can't believe so many are willing to offer a review on a product they never touched or owned. I've had this product since it was released on day 1 over six months ago. There are many things I like and many that I don't but to compare a $150 tablet to a $500+ IPad doesn't work. Augen was wrong to release the item without the proper license. They are also wrong not releasing the kernal source code as per the Google license agreement. The 2.5mm headphone jack is not a good choice but I just bought a pair that fits it. Skype won't work because it has no mic and Augen first advertised it as having a USB host mode but the patches to make it work never came out. The company has made many promises and not delivered. The unit is advertised as 800 mhz but only runs 600mhz. There are multiple different hardware versions all labeled the Augen Gentouch78. One comes with a 2100mAh while another had the 1500mAh. I don;t think the problem with the mini-SD slot is all that bad. If you pay attention to how the mini-SD card fits in the slot (look at the icon next to the slot) the card will go in fine. It is a small card mut most cell phone use the mini-sd card now anyways.
For the good points, this device plays videos well. I have played h.264, vob's, wmv's, mpg's with no problem. I have ripped DVD's to the mini sd card and taken them on the airplane to watch on tips. (For extra power and playtimes longer than 3 hrs use one of the several battery packs sold here at woot! and turn off the wireless radios.) I have Angry Birds playing and can get any app I need from other market sources. You can always search for "APK" on google to find more. For those apps that require the Google Market there is another solution. I installed the Google Android SDK on my desktop and used the market on that virtural machine. Copied the apk from there to my mini-sd card. (Google "adb") I have the Kindle app as well as other free ebook reader apps. It is the perfect size as an ereader. I can fit it in my back pocket without the case and fits on the tray table on the plane without bothering the person next to me.
Yes I could have gotten a more expensive version of a tablet but I didn't know how much I would truly use it when I bought it. This was a cheap way rather than spending $$$ on a phone and a 2-yr contract. There was a Eropean version called the SmartSurfer that had the firmware for the USB host mode as well as a mic for Skype. It also cost more. Some users have ported over the firmware.
For those that purchased this, head over to http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/augen-gentouch/ for more information.

pvhoof wrote:That's what I tried to do as well but my hopes are not high. I have many sd cards (non micro SD) that I wanted to use with this. Woot claims SD card slot all others say micro SD.

Mine will be unopened and returned even if this means I eat return shipping cost.

The Augen packaging says SD, and Woot probably used that.

Walgreens frequently has MicroSD on sale. Right now you can get a 2g with SD adapter for $8.

I got mine this morning and can't say that it's the worst thing I have ever owned (still beating the piss out of a handful of WinCE devices I have owned). But I am not pleased it's missing the full Android Market which I will attempt to remedy once I get around to downloading the Android SDK. My main complaint is that when it goes into standby it refuses to come back. The physical Home button has brought it back a handful of times but several times now I have been forced to punch the reset to wake it back up. Fortunately it maintains any configuration changes I have made, but I am unable to find any others having this issue on Google. Hopefully one of you may have some insight.

It was a little typical that the day I was out buying this for $60 more, w00t had it for a ridiculous price. Of course, I got the newer version that ships with 2.1 and no hint of the app market or any Google apps. There are rumors that a legitimate licensed version will be available soon, but it seems like most Gentouch users have the older version and there doesn't seem to be much interest in the new version. At least I can return it if I get sick of it. As a PMP it's pretty decent. As a web browser, it's more of a phone than a PC. As an ereader, it's sorely lacking (too slow). For email it's OK, but not if you're a Yahoo user. I haven't tried any video games yet, but Angry Birds is in store for me once I find a link.

I almost forgot. It's touch screen, but you'll need the stylus unless you have long fingernails. It's not very responsive, but still better than a Palm or the like.

Why this post? For $109.99 this is a good deal. If it shows up on a Woot-Off, buy it, if you're into working to make your PC better. If you're into plug and play, forget about this.

Wow! This is an Epic Fail! Just got mine, and not only was it NOT the version advertised (3.5mm Headphone Jack...ha!) but mine will not even boot up!! I plug in the power cord, press the power button, get the GenTouch splash screen, and then it hangs on the little icon in the corner with the "feet"!
Totally hangs! I can't even turn it off at that point, the power button won't turn it off...I have to wait for the battery to lose it's charge, to try to boot it again. I know I need to return it, but before I do...does anybody know if there is a reset button, or anyway out of this hangup? I knew this wasn't going to be a great piece of equipment, and I could even deal with the 2.5mm "earpiece" jack...but I can't even get the piece of $_ _t to boot-up!!

OK, OK, OK.. Just my 2 cents....
I received my steaming pile of poo (the Augen GT78) last night, and:
1: I'm completely pissed at woot they pulled a nice bate & switch this time.... The tablet that was advertised is not the device they shipped. This is easily recognized by:
a. The 2.5mm headphone jack (the GT78 v2 has the 3.5mm jack.)
b. Augen shipped the v1 with an owner’s manual entitled "Gentouch78 "Table" PC (this was corrected with the GT78 v2, they replaced the word "Table" with "Tablet".

2: To those of you that, like me, bought this POS: Straight out of the box you will completely hate the device and want to fling it at that the nearest wall, it's slow even for just web browsing, the touchpad (using stylus) is a joke, it needs to be calibrated which there is not pre-installed app to use for that purpose, the pre-installed FAKE Android Market is worthless and looks shady, but there is HOPE!!!! Do a quix google video search for "Gentouch78 root" & search through the blogs/forums for modding instructions. With little to no effort this device can be modded, it make a world of difference.
Not going into details on what it fixes/adds, you can do the research….
*Funny thing is the device is rooted straight out of the box, so I guess post rooting/modding isn't going to break the warranty LOL.
3: If you do mod this thing, I'd also suggest over-clocking it, only for the fact the advertised "CPU: 800 Mhz" clock speed is actually 600 Mhz.....


I'm calling foul on Woot for the Bate&Switch, Shame on you..............

But for $109 bucks and a little research time on my part, I've now got a device I can crash at will, instead of using my Droid X........

Hattrick

Yo sgibbs: The reset button (it’s a hole, you will need to use a paper clip) is on the back (right hand side bottom corner). You need to do a "short" press of the "back" button (last button on top) and press the reset at same time...
Read my post (just below yours)

sgibbs wrote:Wow! This is an Epic Fail! Just got mine, and not only was it NOT the version advertised (3.5mm Headphone Jack...ha!) but mine will not even boot up!! I plug in the power cord, press the power button, get the GenTouch splash screen, and then it hangs on the little icon in the corner with the "feet"!
Totally hangs! I can't even turn it off at that point, the power button won't turn it off...I have to wait for the battery to lose it's charge, to try to boot it again. I know I need to return it, but before I do...does anybody know if there is a reset button, or anyway out of this hangup? I knew this wasn't going to be a great piece of equipment, and I could even deal with the 2.5mm "earpiece" jack...but I can't even get the piece of $_ _t to boot-up!!

nyeb wrote:Yo sgibbs: The reset button (it’s a hole, you will need to use a paper clip) is on the back (right hand side bottom corner). You need to do a "short" press of the "back" button (last button on top) and press the reset at same time...
Read my post (just below yours)

Thanks for your help Hattrick, but unfortunately that didn't work and I can't get any human at Augen to help me..

Any other idea how to get this thing to boot or did they just send me a brick?

To:> sgibbs shoot me an e-mail at nye.benjamin@gmail & I'll try to walk you through some troubleshooting steps I've tried when I 1st booted mine up....
Cheers,
Hattrick

sgibbs wrote:Thanks for your help Hattrick, but unfortunately that didn't work and I can't get any human at Augen to help me..

Any other idea how to get this thing to boot or did they just send me a brick?

To:> Gatzby
I don't believe I was shipped the wrong product, I KNOW I & the other 1472 people that bought this POS where shipped the wrong product!!!! Please read the email, below, sent to Woot's CEO, media dept, and services dept:

To Whom it My Concern @ Woot.com:
I am completely pissed about the POS device your company shipped, The Augen Gentouch78, order #32387715.
This was a complete bate & switch on Woot's part; this device is NOT the device advertised. The device that was shipped is an older Gentouch78 v1 (NBA7800ATP) NOT the advertized NBA7800ATP-B (Gentouch78 v2), there are major differences in the models; The Gentouceh78 v1 was riddled with bugs impart due to a slower, weaker, and an unstable 600Mhz processer (The advertised device has a stated clock speed of 800Mhz, the device that was shipped has a benchmarked clock speed of 600Mhz), this along with the other bugs, that were mostly hammered out in the v2 model, making this essentially a pretty expensive door stop, this is one of the reason K-Mart & TigerDirect pulled the v1 off their shelves.
The differences are very obvious. The model I received, has
1: a 2.5mm headphone jack (The NBA7800ATP-B has a 3.5mm jack, your advertized specs state the model you were selling came with a 3.5mm jack)
2: The ARM processor clocks @ 600Mhz (The NBA7800ATP-B has an updated ARM processor that clocks @ 800Mhz, your advertized specs state the model you were selling came a processor with a clock speed of 800Mhz)
3: The glaring difference is the printed, on-device, Model Number, the device I received is a NBA7800ATP NOT the advertized NBA7800ATP-B, also the included owner’s manual entitled ‘Gentouch78 “Table” PC’, this misspelling was corrected in the Gentouch78 v2 (NBA7800ATP-B) owner’s manual that is entitled ‘Gentouch78 “Tablet” PC’

Woot Shame on you!!!!!!!

I am no longer willing to buy anything from your site, since this is not the first time Woot has used poor business practices in regards to a bate & switch , and I'm going to make it a priority to post your company’s deceptive business pratices in every tech blog, forum, social network and consumer product group that I can, along with informing the national / local Dallas BBB, and the Carrolton chamber of commerce.
Your company sold a total of 1473 devices @ $124.48 per device, Woot made $183,359.04 dollars by false advertising. I do believe there are laws that protect consumers from companies like yours, and I’m quite sure the Fox4, NBC 5, ABC8, and CBS11 news, would love to sink their journalistic teeth, into a story of a local company duping 1473 people out of their money by false advertising.

Extremely Disappointed Customer,

Gatzby wrote:If you believe you've received the wrong item, please get in touch with service@woot.com at your earliest convenience. Apologies for the inconvenience.

Dude get a life why don't you email woot and ask for your money back...very simple...you act like someone stole your life savings, give me a break..you arent even a big purchaser from the site why don't you waste more time from your pathetic life and contact the news station...

nyeb wrote:To:> Gatzby
I don't believe I was shipped the wrong product, I KNOW I & the other 1472 people that bought this POS where shipped the wrong product!!!! Please read the email, below, sent to Woot's CEO, media dept, and services dept:

To Whom it My Concern @ Woot.com:
I am completely pissed about the POS device your company shipped, The Augen Gentouch78, order #32387715.
This was a complete bate & switch on Woot's part; this device is NOT the device advertised. The device that was shipped is an older Gentouch78 v1 (NBA7800ATP) NOT the advertized NBA7800ATP-B (Gentouch78 v2), there are major differences in the models; The Gentouceh78 v1 was riddled with bugs impart due to a slower, weaker, and an unstable 600Mhz processer (The advertised device has a stated clock speed of 800Mhz, the device that was shipped has a benchmarked clock speed of 600Mhz), this along with the other bugs, that were mostly hammered out in the v2 model, making this essentially a pretty expensive door stop, this is one of the reason K-Mart & TigerDirect pulled the v1 off their shelves.
The differences are very obvious. The model I received, has
1: a 2.5mm headphone jack (The NBA7800ATP-B has a 3.5mm jack, your advertized specs state the model you were selling came with a 3.5mm jack)
2: The ARM processor clocks @ 600Mhz (The NBA7800ATP-B has an updated ARM processor that clocks @ 800Mhz, your advertized specs state the model you were selling came a processor with a clock speed of 800Mhz)
3: The glaring difference is the printed, on-device, Model Number, the device I received is a NBA7800ATP NOT the advertized NBA7800ATP-B, also the included owner’s manual entitled ‘Gentouch78 “Table” PC’, this misspelling was corrected in the Gentouch78 v2 (NBA7800ATP-B) owner’s manual that is entitled ‘Gentouch78 “Tablet” PC’

Woot Shame on you!!!!!!!

I am no longer willing to buy anything from your site, since this is not the first time Woot has used poor business practices in regards to a bate & switch , and I'm going to make it a priority to post your company’s deceptive business pratices in every tech blog, forum, social network and consumer product group that I can, along with informing the national / local Dallas BBB, and the Carrolton chamber of commerce.
Your company sold a total of 1473 devices @ $124.48 per device, Woot made $183,359.04 dollars by false advertising. I do believe there are laws that protect consumers from companies like yours, and I’m quite sure the Fox4, NBC 5, ABC8, and CBS11 news, would love to sink their journalistic teeth, into a story of a local company duping 1473 people out of their money by false advertising.

Extremely Disappointed Customer,

Anyone else get a non-functioning one of these?
I tried resetting several times. It still doesn't work. Any suggestions?

To:> jerseytu
Your right, I did not lose my life savings, hell I spend $100 in gas & tolls in a week commuting back and forth to work & if you think I'm pissed about the money, then you didn't get the point.
The fact that Woot pulled a bate & switch, and falsely advertised a product that over 1400 people bought, netting Woot approx. $183,359.04 dollars, that’s what pisses me off...

BTW: I do purchase a lot of things from Woot, using my wifes account & I do have a life I'm a System Engineer & Blackberry Admin, and have been in the tech industry for about 18 years.
The problem with a sale like this is that it gives people the wrong impression of technology.

So suck on that Vogon-boy....................

Cheers,

jerseytu wrote:Dude get a life why don't you email woot and ask for your money back...very simple...you act like someone stole your life savings, give me a break..you arent even a big purchaser from the site why don't you waste more time from your pathetic life and contact the news station...

Just got mine today. That was the fastest woot delivery ever for me.

Very fast shipment, unfortunately D.O.A. Emailed service@woot.com for resolution.

I should receive mine today. Can't wait to see if it's V1 or V2.

Found a good informational site to share:

Augen Gentouch78 For Dummies
http://augengentouch78.webs.com/

gizmojunkie wrote:Anyone else get a non-functioning one of these?
I tried resetting several times. It still doesn't work. Any suggestions?

I also received a DOA unit.

DOA unit here as well.

My Augen " 7" Internet Table PC " (as it's labeled on the instruction manual) came today. Like a few others here in the forum, I received the older NBA7800ATP rather than the advertised NBA7800ATP-B. I just sent a note to Woot about this issue. Has anyone been successful with having it returned for a refund because of this problem?

I also received the version 1 tablet. I spent a few hours with it adding patches and apps. For a $100 toy, I am happy. The patchv3 fixed a lot of bugs.

Everyone says Google Market does not work.
Happy to say....Mine does! At least after the updates
I just downloaded Zillow's app from Google Market as a test(way cool app)

It was WELL WORTH going thru the web site http://augengentouch78.webs.com
It tells you tips on extending the battery, how to patch, and my favorite feature, how to read/write to the SDCard over the Wifi.
It had a bit of trouble playing an uncompressed rip of a DVD (I only tried one). It seemed to pause every 5 seconds or so. I compressed it as an .mp4 & it worked flawless. I compared the video to my Archos 5 Internet tablet & I have to say the color was a little better on the Augen.
So, please don't be quick to give up on this tablet. Even if you got the version 1. Read thru the web site and apply the patches and tips. ***I did see that if the accelorometer works, do not apply the v3 patch***
The Task Managers can be set to stop all the crap from loading and make it run a bit faster. It crashed once before I applied the patch. After that, I played with it for about 4 or 5 hours - crash free.
Here is what I like:
-Google Market works
-Great video player with decent screen
-browser is quick
-youtube app works great
-File Expert (from the tip web site) allows read/write to SDCard over Wifi
-Google Maps (and Zillow) works great & pinpointed my location (not sure how without a GPS). Must be by IP.
-The Television apps (from the tip web site)work great for on-demand shows. Be sure to turn off Compatibility Mode in Spare parts to make it full screen (also from the tip web site)
-Android for Yahoo Mail site seemed solid

The Bad
-Full VOB didn't play very smooth
-Google Talk didn't seem to work. Loads & shows my contacts, then closes
-menu screen is a little slow, but so is my Archos 5. Don't even try to use your finger. Use the stylus. It's so much easier and will keep you from getting frustrated.
-SDCard is a pain in the A$$ to get out (which is why I liked the File Expert so much)
-No accelorometer - at least I don't have it working yet.

It ain't an Ipad...but it aint $500 either. When I drop it or lose it...so what. I'll by another from eBay....cheap....maybe yours

To:> agingdragqueen

1st off I'd like to say Thank You, that was the first actual real apology i've received about this matter. i have started the RMA process and all should be well in a few days, might I suggest having your R&D dept actually inspect the products that they are procuring or not just doing a copy and paste from the mgf's website before posting. From the comthe few comment prior and proceeding my initial post it looks like this was more than an isolated thing....

Thank You & Cheers,,

agingdragqueen wrote:I looked at your email history with us, it appears that you emailed in once (to everyone you said you did) and we promptly (and nicely) apologized and provided you a return label so that you could send it back for a refund. If this was not what you wanted, we have not heard back from you.

We apologize that you feel mistreated by us, but we are not in the business of scamming our customers, otherwise we would not have gotten even this far. As far as we are aware, this was an isolated incident and not something that happened on purpose. Sometimes, when sent a large quantity of an item from our vendors, the wrong model number may be included without our knowledge and so we rely on our customer base to let us know if there are any issues like this so that we can fix it IMMEDIATELY.

Yours, so far, is the only complaint we've had about getting the wrong model number. We completely welcome anyone else to write in if they also feel they were sent the the wrong item.

O Hey, Me Again Sorry,
I WAS about to leave, until I read this post,
nice...cdsinfla.....it seems that you and several other have posted this exact opinion of this device VERBATIM.... And the link you posted only has the "official" updates for the GT78
To All: If you are going to keep this device here enjoy:
resource: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7409528

YouTube 'How To' on modding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VtNzHXui08

Install USB Drivers (second page) http://bit.ly/fAAtUj (PDF)

You can find the rest of the links to Mod this device in the description of the YouTube vid.
The mod that is done in the youtube video will add the Google market (this is way outside of Google licensing AND IF YOU OWN ANOTHER ANDROID DEVICR, YOU MAY END UP FUBAR'ING YOU GMAIL/MARKET ACCOUNT.
The system mod does fix screen sensitivity to a point. (It adds the calibration tool)

Just a quick note about performance, just as a tecnical test without running benchmark tools: DL Angry Birds,, and you will see the issue I mention earlier about the 600Mhz proc. the game play is OK (Slow but OK). however you will not see any second tier text (blank blocks in the upper right hand corrner, where your score is supposed to be, also the level indicator windows at the start of the game are devoid of an images.

Cheers,

cdsinfla wrote:I also received the version 1 tablet. I spent a few hours with it adding patches and apps. For a $100 toy, I am happy. The patchv3 fixed a lot of bugs.

Everyone says Google Market does not work.
Happy to say....Mine does! At least after the updates
I just downloaded Zillow's app from Google Market as a test(way cool app)

It was WELL WORTH going thru the web site http://augengentouch78.webs.com
It tells you tips on extending the battery, how to patch, and my favorite feature, how to read/write to the SDCard over the Wifi.
It had a bit of trouble playing an uncompressed rip of a DVD (I only tried one). It seemed to pause every 5 seconds or so. I compressed it as an .mp4 & it worked flawless. I compared the video to my Archos 5 Internet tablet & I have to say the color was a little better on the Augen.
So, please don't be quick to give up on this tablet. Even if you got the version 1. Read thru the web site and apply the patches and tips. ***I did see that if the accelorometer works, do not apply the v3 patch***
The Task Managers can be set to stop all the crap from loading and make it run a bit faster. It crashed once before I applied the patch. After that, I played with it for about 4 or 5 hours - crash free.
Here is what I like:
-Google Market works
-Great video player with decent screen
-browser is quick
-youtube app works great
-File Expert (from the tip web site) allows read/write to SDCard over Wifi
-Google Maps (and Zillow) works great & pinpointed my location (not sure how without a GPS). Must be by IP.
-The Television apps (from the tip web site)work great for on-demand shows. Be sure to turn off Compatibility Mode in Spare parts to make it full screen (also from the tip web site)
-Android for Yahoo Mail site seemed solid

The Bad
-Full VOB didn't play very smooth
-Google Talk didn't seem to work. Loads & shows my contacts, then closes
-menu screen is a little slow, but so is my Archos 5. Don't even try to use your finger. Use the stylus. It's so much easier and will keep you from getting frustrated.
-SDCard is a pain in the A$$ to get out (which is why I liked the File Expert so much)
-No accelorometer - at least I don't have it working yet.

It ain't an Ipad...but it aint $500 either. When I drop it or lose it...so what. I'll by another from eBay....cheap....maybe yours

sgibbs wrote:Wow! This is an Epic Fail! Just got mine, and not only was it NOT the version advertised (3.5mm Headphone Jack...ha!) but mine will not even boot up!! I plug in the power cord, press the power button, get the GenTouch splash screen, and then it hangs on the little icon in the corner with the "feet"!
Totally hangs! I can't even turn it off at that point, the power button won't turn it off...I have to wait for the battery to lose it's charge, to try to boot it again. I know I need to return it, but before I do...does anybody know if there is a reset button, or anyway out of this hangup? I knew this wasn't going to be a great piece of equipment, and I could even deal with the 2.5mm "earpiece" jack...but I can't even get the piece of $_ _t to boot-up!!

YES, sgibbs, there IS a reset button (actually a pin-hole). I have NOT tried it (mine works fine), but on the back of the tablet (opposite side of the screen), close to the bottom (while holding the buttons in the upward position), there is a little hole with the word "reset" written on it. It looks like the little hole on CD/DVD drives that you press with an unbent paper clip to open-up the drive when all else fails. Since mine works OK, I've not had the chutzpah to reset the thing.

If you try it, why not post what happens, if anything. I'm interested to see what happens.


OOPS: others have already addressed this (above).
BTW: the calibration tool is already installed on my Augen: It's on the 2nd page of the desktop. If you use your fingernail instead of the stylus, you can use your fingernail as the pointing device.
Everytime I play with this thing, I'm becoming more impressed.

Did anyone get a v2 model?
Just curious.
Shame on Woot for screwing us. I hope they make good on returns for those that want it.
I am keeping mine. The more I play with it, the more I like it.
Hey woot staff...send me a free one for being a nice guy

cdsinfla wrote:I also received the version 1 tablet. I spent a few hours with it adding patches and apps. For a $100 toy, I am happy. The patchv3 fixed a lot of bugs.

Everyone says Google Market does not work.
Happy to say....Mine does! At least after the updates
I just downloaded Zillow's app from Google Market as a test(way cool app)

It was WELL WORTH going thru the web site http://augengentouch78.webs.com
It tells you tips on extending the battery, how to patch, and my favorite feature, how to read/write to the SDCard over the Wifi.
It had a bit of trouble playing an uncompressed rip of a DVD (I only tried one). It seemed to pause every 5 seconds or so. I compressed it as an .mp4 & it worked flawless. I compared the video to my Archos 5 Internet tablet & I have to say the color was a little better on the Augen.
So, please don't be quick to give up on this tablet. Even if you got the version 1. Read thru the web site and apply the patches and tips. ***I did see that if the accelorometer works, do not apply the v3 patch***
The Task Managers can be set to stop all the crap from loading and make it run a bit faster. It crashed once before I applied the patch. After that, I played with it for about 4 or 5 hours - crash free.
Here is what I like:
-Google Market works
-Great video player with decent screen
-browser is quick
-youtube app works great
-File Expert (from the tip web site) allows read/write to SDCard over Wifi
-Google Maps (and Zillow) works great & pinpointed my location (not sure how without a GPS). Must be by IP.
-The Television apps (from the tip web site)work great for on-demand shows. Be sure to turn off Compatibility Mode in Spare parts to make it full screen (also from the tip web site)
-Android for Yahoo Mail site seemed solid

The Bad
-Full VOB didn't play very smooth
-Google Talk didn't seem to work. Loads & shows my contacts, then closes
-menu screen is a little slow, but so is my Archos 5. Don't even try to use your finger. Use the stylus. It's so much easier and will keep you from getting frustrated.
-SDCard is a pain in the A$$ to get out (which is why I liked the File Expert so much)
-No accelorometer - at least I don't have it working yet.

It ain't an Ipad...but it aint $500 either. When I drop it or lose it...so what. I'll by another from eBay....cheap....maybe yours

Any company can make a mistake and woot has admitted theirs and offered to give full refund, 10.00 and full return shipping.

BUT!! it is my understanding that the unit with the 2.5 headset is much easier to root than the newer model. I shall see as soon as my micoro Sd card arrives.
regards
Adler

nyeb wrote:To:> Gatzby
I don't believe I was shipped the wrong product, I KNOW I & the other 1472 people that bought this POS where shipped the wrong product!!!! Please read the email, below, sent to Woot's CEO, media dept, and services dept:

To Whom it My Concern @ Woot.com:
I am completely pissed about the POS device your company shipped, The Augen Gentouch78, order #32387715.
This was a complete bate & switch on Woot's part; this device is NOT the device advertised. The device that was shipped is an older Gentouch78 v1 (NBA7800ATP) NOT the advertized NBA7800ATP-B (Gentouch78 v2), there are major differences in the models; The Gentouceh78 v1 was riddled with bugs impart due to a slower, weaker, and an unstable 600Mhz processer (The advertised device has a stated clock speed of 800Mhz, the device that was shipped has a benchmarked clock speed of 600Mhz), this along with the other bugs, that were mostly hammered out in the v2 model, making this essentially a pretty expensive door stop, this is one of the reason K-Mart & TigerDirect pulled the v1 off their shelves.
The differences are very obvious. The model I received, has
1: a 2.5mm headphone jack (The NBA7800ATP-B has a 3.5mm jack, your advertized specs state the model you were selling came with a 3.5mm jack)
2: The ARM processor clocks @ 600Mhz (The NBA7800ATP-B has an updated ARM processor that clocks @ 800Mhz, your advertized specs state the model you were selling came a processor with a clock speed of 800Mhz)
3: The glaring difference is the printed, on-device, Model Number, the device I received is a NBA7800ATP NOT the advertized NBA7800ATP-B, also the included owner’s manual entitled ‘Gentouch78 “Table” PC’, this misspelling was corrected in the Gentouch78 v2 (NBA7800ATP-B) owner’s manual that is entitled ‘Gentouch78 “Tablet” PC’

Woot Shame on you!!!!!!!

I am no longer willing to buy anything from your site, since this is not the first time Woot has used poor business practices in regards to a bate & switch , and I'm going to make it a priority to post your company’s deceptive business pratices in every tech blog, forum, social network and consumer product group that I can, along with informing the national / local Dallas BBB, and the Carrolton chamber of commerce.
Your company sold a total of 1473 devices @ $124.48 per device, Woot made $183,359.04 dollars by false advertising. I do believe there are laws that protect consumers from companies like yours, and I’m quite sure the Fox4, NBC 5, ABC8, and CBS11 news, would love to sink their journalistic teeth, into a story of a local company duping 1473 people out of their money by false advertising.

Extremely Disappointed Customer,

Tried the reset button, I tried charging it up nothing worked. The system arrived DOA so I'm sending it back. I doubled check and I too received the crappier model.

I've always been pretty happy with WOOT but this time they really blew it with me. It's one thing to receive a broken piece of equipment it's another to pull the old bait and switch.

I'm guessing they have taken a beating over this product so I don't expect to see anything from Augen for quite sometime.

Just got an email offering to take it back. I (like everyone else, or so I assume) received the NBA7800ATP (rather than the NBA7800ATP-B).

If you are going to keep it, you will want to get the latest patch on it (v3), which after installing will then prompt you to connect it to your google account and add the actual android marketplace.

Here's a blog post with info on patching the device and getting flash on it:
http://snowulf.com/2011/01/25/how-to-patchupdate-the-augen-gentouch78-tablet-pc/

(edited with link to better information)

Like the other purchasers, I got the email yesterday and was a little disappointed. I was happy with the $10 and appreciate that Woot did own up to the issue and handled it quickly. It is just disappointing to get something that you are excited about and then be let down a little.

It is not a question of returning it as my wife is using it at home to do light browsing and games. I cannot return it now as she would kill me ;)

Woot, thank you for correcting the issue to the best of your ability, but I would have preferred an exchange program where I got the one I ordered instead of getting $10. It would have been nice to get an exchange to the one that was ordered instead of the $10.

I am still a loyal Woot.com supporter; just a little gun-shy now (as I buy 2 daily woots of Sunbeam Heated Fleece Throws...).

P.S. Thank you to all of you that are posting links for software updates. I plan on updating it tonight and appreciate all the work and links you have posted.

More Negs than Positives:
NEG:
I bought this just under a month or so ago and it's not charging, right now using the adapter to use it, really not too happy with this inconvience.

Having problems placing in the mini SD card. Battery life is short.

Confusing to navigate takes a long time to find things you need.

Typing sucks on the virtual key board.

Buttons on the side suck. Can't tell what button I'm pushing on the far back side. Just difficult to figure out which is which?


Positives:
Not really bad as a small tablet.

Love the color.

U can fit most web pages on. Like cking on my status on various sites.


Finally, it really isn't that great! If I could return it to a local store it'd be there right now but don't want to hassle wasting postage just to return it.

benjestefani wrote:

Having problems placing in the mini SD card. Battery life is short.

Typing sucks on the virtual key board.

When trying to put the mini SD card in yesterday, apparenly I put it in wrong & it went into the device. I could hear it rattling around inside. Took only a few minutes to get it out. If anyone does this, remove the 3 rubber buttons that cover three screws on the back. Remove the 3 screws & pry it apart on the bottom starting on the side with one screw. When you get one side slightly apart, the card will fall out. Easily snaps back together. Whew! You can also see the battery inside. If it dies, it may be possible to find a replacement.

Also, a huge improvement is the slideIT keyboard. allows you to type by sliding (never lifting the stylus). Worth the $6 after the trial ends.

Following the email and sending it back to get the replacement, has anyone gotten their new one? I sent mine back Jan. 26th and have emailed several times asking if they received it back yet. They keep saying that it will take around 5-10 days to process. Im thinkng that I might have gotten swindeled.