I suspect that Garcia is in fact rather grateful to be dead....

Ha - you really DON'T get it man!

The great thing about the Dead, and the reason why it was so fun to see multiple shows on a tour is that they didn't use a setlist.
No two shows were ever exactly alike.
Sure, they would have some songs that they would play more frequently on certain tours, but there were always surprises.

I tried to find a track list for the box set so I could show you the variety of songs played, but (strangely enough) I couldn't find it anywhere.

But, I'd guess that, over 22 shows, they probably repeated something like 25% of the songs.
Might be more than that, but also they may have only repeated some once over 22 shows.

Anyway, the Grateful Dead certainly isn't for everyone (I've actually kind of out grown them myself), but you should really know what you're talking about before you knock 'em.

Peace, brother! ;P

Quote from guitarist Bob Weir about the box set:
"We had a pretty plump repertoire by that time. So you're gonna go several nights before you hear a repeat. And if you hear one, it's going to be pretty different."

THAT is exactly why people went to multiple shows back in the day, and want to own recordings of every show today.

The blog today pretty much aligns to why I dislike most people who are obsessed with music and it said it all in a much nicer way than I could state it.

I would sum up my feelings this way, "Go get a job hippie!"

ethilbert wrote:I would sum up my feelings this way, "Go get a job hippie!"

Insightful.

While it's true that some of the folks that I enjoyed seeing the Dead with have eschewed a traditional 9-to-5 lifestyle, the vast majority of us *have* jobs, thank you very much. We are doctors, lawyers, college professors, athletes, professionals, laborers, parents. In fact, I'd say it's statistically likely that you (if you yourself have a job) work for a Deadhead.

Derisive humor and baseless comments only serve to reveal your ignorance. Listen, learn, and think before you group people you don't know and things you don't understand under facile labels.

I have an excellent job, a wonderful wife, a diverse interest in music, and will be buying this set of CDs because it marks one of many pinnacle moments in the history of a f*ckin' awesome band.

Peace (and a little enlightenment) to you!

This set sold out in 4 days and is now fetching 4 figures on eBay. There are lots of well-to-do Deadheads out there. The quality of musicianship on this box set rivals anything you will hear from other improvisational groups past or present. Think about the Dead's performance of songs like a jazz musician's performance of a standard. The "head" is the same but each individual reading can be vastly different. I can't imagine anyone sighing at a John Coltrane concert in the 60s and saying, "oh geeze....is he really going to play My Favorite Things AGAIN??"

Anyone else wear Garcia ties besides me?

Man, hippie bashing was played out by the early 90's. Slow news day woot blog?


/the above few comments said it all already. just chiming in to agree....

RobLinx wrote:Insightful.

While it's true that some of the folks that I enjoyed seeing the Dead with have eschewed a traditional 9-to-5 lifestyle, the vast majority of us *have* jobs, thank you very much. We are doctors, lawyers, college professors, athletes, professionals, laborers, parents. In fact, I'd say it's statistically likely that you (if you yourself have a job) work for a Deadhead.

Derisive humor and baseless comments only serve to reveal your ignorance. Listen, learn, and think before you group people you don't know and things you don't understand under facile labels.

I have an excellent job, a wonderful wife, a diverse interest in music, and will be buying this set of CDs because it marks one of many pinnacle moments in the history of a f*ckin' awesome band.

Peace (and a little enlightenment) to you!

Dude, chill go smoke a bowl or something.

Apparently you have never listened to Don Henley's "Boys of Summer."

I refer you to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owIyrXYG3ww

what a pointless, insulting post woot bot. in the last month my opinion of woot has changed. first the Sirius GPP booth @CES dedicated only to selling advertising and no nifty swag of any kind laying about. now this post that insults not only a group of great musicians but hundreds of thousands of followers of that music. i don't care if you don't like the Dead, lots of people don't. putting your brand behind this hate is not smart. one thing i didn't want to think of when i think of woot is: they hate the Grateful Dead.

but i do now. congrats, you are no longer cool.

AeroSquid wrote:i don't care if you don't like the Dead, lots of people don't.

And yet, you rant.

sgoman5674 wrote:Anyone else wear Garcia ties besides me?

I have a Garcia silk scarf.

Will this be available on 8-track?

Careful, boredom is a terrible thing, it makes you write things you wish you didn't. Please
don't poke sticks at the heads, you just might find Jerry's revenge is lost Woot revenue.

DennisG2010 wrote:Ha - you really DON'T get it man!

The great thing about the Dead, and the reason why it was so fun to see multiple shows on a tour is that they didn't use a setlist.
No two shows were ever exactly alike.
Sure, they would have some songs that they would play more frequently on certain tours, but there were always surprises.

I tried to find a track list for the box set so I could show you the variety of songs played, but (strangely enough) I couldn't find it anywhere.

But, I'd guess that, over 22 shows, they probably repeated something like 25% of the songs.
Might be more than that, but also they may have only repeated some once over 22 shows.

Anyway, the Grateful Dead certainly isn't for everyone (I've actually kind of out grown them myself), but you should really know what you're talking about before you knock 'em.

Peace, brother! ;P

04/07/72 (Fri) Wembley Empire Pool - London, England
Set 1: Greatest Story Ever Told, Sugaree, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, Black Throated Wind, Loser, Mr. Charlie, Beat It On Down The Line, Tennessee Jed, Playing In The Band, Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > El Paso > The Other One > Wharf Rat, Ramble On Rose, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 5.00 out of 4 votes.

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04/08/72 (Sat) Wembley Empire Pool - London, England
Set 1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Deal, Black Throated Wind, Next Time You See Me, Cumberland Blues, Brown Eyed Women, Beat It On Down The Line, Tennessee Jed, Playing In The Band, Good Lovin', Looks Like Rain, Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin', Big Railroad Blues, It Hurts Me Too, Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks), E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.80 out of 30 votes.

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04/11/72 (Tue) Newcastle City Hall - Newcastle, England
Set 1: Greatest Story Ever Told, Deal, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, Tennessee Jed, Big Boss Man, Beat It On Down The Line, Sugaree, Jack Straw, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Playing In The Band, Next Time You See Me, Brown Eyed Women, Looks Like Rain, Big Railroad Blues, Casey Jones

Set 2: Good Lovin', Ramble On Rose, Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Comes A Time > Sugar Magnolia, E: Brokedown Palace

This show has an average rating of 4.60 out of 5 votes.

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04/14/72 (Fri) Tivoli Theater - Copenhagen, Denmark
Set 1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, You Win Again, Black Throated Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, Loser, Me And Bobby McGee, Cumberland Blues, Playing In The Band, Tennessee Jed, El Paso, Big Boss Man, Beat It On Down The Line, Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin', It Hurts Me Too, Brown Eyed Women, Looks Like Rain, Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia, Good Lovin' > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Who Do You Love > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Good Lovin', Ramble On Rose, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

Source: Niminee

This show has an average rating of 4.82 out of 17 votes.

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04/15/72 (Sat) Tivoli Theater - Copenhagen, Denmark
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04/16/72 (Sun) Aarhus University - Arhus, Denmark
Set 1: Greatest Story Ever Told, Sugaree, Chinatown Shuffle, Black Throated Wind, Tennessee Jed, Mr. Charlie, Beat It On Down The Line, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Loser, Next Time You See Me, Playing In The Band, Dire Wolf

Set 2: Good Lovin', Cumberland Blues, El Paso, Deal, Truckin' > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Uncle John's Band > The Other One > Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away

This show has an average rating of 5.00 out of 3 votes.

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04/17/72 (Mon) Tivoli Gardens - Copenhagen, Denmark
Set 1: Cold Rain & Snow, Me And Bobby McGee, Chinatown Shuffle, Sugaree, Black Throated Wind, Mr. Charlie, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Jack Straw, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me, Playing In The Band, Casey Jones

Set 2: One More Saturday Night, It Hurts Me Too, Ramble On Rose, El Paso, Big Railroad Blues, Truckin', Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Johnny B. Goode

Comment: TV broadcast: "TV from tho Tivoli"
This show has an average rating of 4.42 out of 12 votes.

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04/21/72 (Fri) Beat Club - Bremen, Germany
Set 1: Bertha, Playing In The Band, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, Truckin' > The Other One, One More Saturday Night

Comment: TV broadcast
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04/24/72 (Mon) Rheinhalle - Dusseldorf, Germany
Set 1: Truckin', Tennessee Jed, Chinatown Shuffle, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Mr. Charlie, Beat It On Down The Line, Loser, Playing In The Band, Next Time You See Me, Me And Bobby McGee, Good Lovin', Casey Jones

Set 2: He's Gone, It Hurts Me Too, El Paso, Dark Star > Me & My Uncle > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.76 out of 21 votes.

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04/26/72 (Wed) Jahrhunderthalle (Hundred Year Hall) - Frankfurt, Germany
Set 1: Bertha (1), Me & My Uncle (1), Mr. Charlie, He's Gone, Black Throated Wind, Next Time You See Me (1), China Cat Sunflower (1) > I Know You Rider (1), Jack Straw (1), Big Railroad Blues (1), Playing In The Band (1), Chinatown Shuffle, Loser, Beat It On Down The Line, You Win Again, Good Lovin', Dire Wolf, Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin' (1) > Drums (1) > The Other One (1) > Comes A Time (1) > Sugar Magnolia (1), El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Greatest Story Ever Told, Two Souls In Communion, Lovelight (1) > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad (1) > One More Saturday Night (1)

Source: Jonathan Bowers

This show has an average rating of 5.00 out of 12 votes.

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04/29/72 (Sat) Musikhalle - Hamburg, Germany
Set 1: Playing In The Band, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, Jack Straw, Loser, Chinatown Shuffle, Me & My Uncle, Big Railroad Blues, Good Lovin', Casey Jones

Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me, Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Who Do You Love, E1: One More Saturday Night, E2: Uncle John's Band

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05/03/72 (Wed) Olympia Theatre - Paris, France
Set 1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, Black Throated Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Beat It On Down The Line, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me, Playing In The Band, Good Lovin', Sing Me Back Home, Casey Jones

Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Ramble On Rose, It Hurts Me Too, Truckin' > The Other One > Drums > The Other One > Me And Bobby McGee > The Other One > Wharf Rat, Jack Straw, Sugar Magnolia > Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.74 out of 23 votes.

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05/04/72 (Thu) Olympia Theatre - Paris, France
Set 1: Greatest Story Ever Told, Deal, Mr. Charlie, Beat It On Down The Line, Brown Eyed Women, Chinatown Shuffle, Playing In The Band, You Win Again, It Hurts Me Too, He's Gone, El Paso, Big Railroad Blues, Two Souls In Communion, Casey Jones

Set 2: Good Lovin', Next Time You See Me, Ramble On Rose, Jack Straw, Dark Star > Drums > Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia, Sing Me Back Home, Mexicali Blues, Big Boss Man, Uncle John's Band, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.79 out of 19 votes.

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05/07/72 (Sun) Bickershaw Festival - Wigan, Lancashire, England
Set 1: Truckin', Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Deal, Beat It On Down The Line, He's Gone, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower

Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Big Boss Man, Ramble On Rose, Jack Straw, Dark Star > Drums > The Other One > Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Lovelight > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

Comment: Order uncertain. Billy's Birthday
This show has an average rating of 4.22 out of 9 votes.

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05/10/72 (Wed) RAI Concertgebouw - Amsterdam, Netherlands
Set 1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Black Throated Wind, Loser, Next Time You See Me, El Paso, He's Gone, Chinatown Shuffle, Playing In The Band, Big Railroad Blues, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Big Boss Man, Greatest Story Ever Told, Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Me And Bobby McGee > The Other One > Wharf Rat, Beat It On Down The Line, Two Souls In Communion, Ramble On Rose, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away

Source: Alan McCarty

This show has an average rating of 4.67 out of 12 votes.

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05/11/72 (Thu) Rotterdam Civic Hall - Rotterdam, Netherlands
Set 1: Playing In The Band, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, Deal, Chinatown Shuffle, Mexicali Blues, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, It Hurts Me Too, Beat It On Down The Line, Brown Eyed Women, Jack Straw, Big Railroad Blues, Good Lovin', Casey Jones

Set 2: Morning Dew, Me & My Uncle, Two Souls In Communion, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Next Time You See Me, Dark Star > Drums > Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Who Do You Love > Truckin' > Uncle John's Band, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.67 out of 24 votes.

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05/13/72 (Sat) Lille Fairgrounds - Lille, France
Set 1: Bertha, Black Throated Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, Loser, Beat It On Down The Line, Mr. Charlie, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Me & My Uncle, Big Railroad Blues, Next Time You See Me, Playing In The Band, Sugaree, Mexicali Blues, Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin', Drums > The Other One > Big River, He's Gone, It Hurts Me Too, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 5.00 out of 2 votes.

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05/16/72 (Tue) Radio Luxembourg - , Luxembourg
Set 1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, Black Throated Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower >

Set 2: I Know You Rider, Beat It On Down The Line, It Hurts Me Too, Tennessee Jed, Playing In The Band, Promised Land

Set 3: Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.83 out of 12 votes.

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05/18/72 (Thu) Kongressaal Deutsches Museum - Muenchen, Germany
Set 1: Truckin', Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Chinatown Shuffle, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, El Paso, It Hurts Me Too, You Win Again, Playing In The Band, Good Lovin', Casey Jones

Set 2: Sitting On Top Of The World > Me & My Uncle, Ramble On Rose, Beat It On Down The Line, Dark Star > Morning Dew > Drums > Sugar Magnolia, E1: Sing Me Back Home, E2: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.75 out of 4 votes.

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05/23/72 (Tue) The Strand Lyceum - London, England
Set 1: Promised Land, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, Tennessee Jed, Next Time You See Me, Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Me & My Uncle, Chinatown Shuffle, Big Railroad Blues, Two Souls In Communion, Playing In The Band, Sitting On Top Of The World, Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu, Mexicali Blues, Good Lovin', Casey Jones

Set 2: Ramble On Rose, Dark Star > Drums > Dark Star > Morning Dew, He's Gone, Sugar Magnolia, Comes A Time, Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away > Hey Bo Diddley > Not Fade Away, E: Uncle John's Band

This show has an average rating of 4.73 out of 11 votes.

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05/24/72 (Wed) The Strand Lyceum - London, England
Set 1: Cold Rain & Snow, Beat It On Down The Line, Mr. Charlie, Deal, Me & My Uncle, It Hurts Me Too, Dire Wolf, Black Throated Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Playing In The Band, You Win Again, Jack Straw, Casey Jones

Set 2: Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu, Mexicali Blues, Black Peter, Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Sing Me Back Home > Sugar Magnolia, Lovelight, E: One More Saturday Night

Comment: 'Mexican Hat Dance 'tuning before 'Truckin'
This show has an average rating of 4.50 out of 2 votes.

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05/25/72 (Thu) The Strand Lyceum - London, England
Set 1: Promised Land, Brown Eyed Women, Big Boss Man, Black Throated Wind, Tennessee Jed, Mr. Charlie, Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Me And Bobby McGee, Good Lovin', Playing In The Band, Brokedown Palace, Casey Jones

Set 2: Me & My Uncle, Big Railroad Blues, Chinatown Shuffle, Ramble On Rose, Dark Star > Sugar Magnolia, Comes A Time, El Paso, Sitting On Top Of The World, Uncle John's Band > Wharf Rat > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 5.00 out of 2 votes.

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05/26/72 (Fri) The Strand Lyceum - London, England
Set 1: Promised Land, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, Loser, Next Time You See Me, El Paso, Dire Wolf, Two Souls In Communion, Playing In The Band, He's Gone, Cumberland Blues, Jack Straw, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away

Set 2: Truckin' > The Other One > Morning Dew > The Other One > Sing Me Back Home, Me & My Uncle, Ramble On Rose, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, E: One More Saturday Night

This show has an average rating of 4.82 out of 33 votes.

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llandar wrote:And yet, you rant.

yeah i forgot to add "keep it to yourself"... most businesses go out of their way to avoid antagonizing their customers and yet, you don't.

I have two Garcia ties, both gifts, but very nice nonetheless.

Couple of fallacies here; maybe more, but I'll stick with two.
1) Many so-called "Deadheads" are doing quite fine financially - well-employed and otherwise normal members of society.
2) The Dead as a general rule never played the same show twice. The set list was always changing, especially between two consecutive shows. Having been to sequential shows, I have experienced it first-hand. And, given that they're a "jam band", most of the song is different from playing to playing.

Think about it - how is that any different from so-called "jazz standards"? Now maybe you're not a jazz fan either, I am. The only truly American musical art form. How many times, by how many artists, can you stand to listen to "I'll Remember April"? If you enjoy jazz, the answer is quite a few. It's different every time; different improvisations, different arrangement, different tempo - who knows? I can listen to a saxophone and tell you if it's Sonny Rollins, John Coltrane, Lester Young, Dexter Gordon, Eric Dolphy, Ben Webster, Stan Getz - all could be playing the exact same song the exact same way. It's okay to appreciate nuance. It's ok not to also.

I'll prolly download it and never get around to listening to it.

Not funny and mean-spirited. There are so many opportunities to poke fun at the Good Ol' Grateful Dead and their fans and you didn't even try. That's just plain lazy.

$400 for the box set? Is there something really special about the 1972 European tour? For those who don't want to shell out that kind of cash, there is an extensive list of live recordings of the Grateful Dead on the Internet Archive available for free.

http://www.archive.org/details/GratefulDead

Here's dose of what you're missing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnfqmjTnjTA

do your research before opening your mouth and betraying your ignorance. all 7200 box sets sold out quickly at $450 each.

You seem confused, so maybe you should just let the music play. You never know, once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right. If the bus comes by and you do get on, have a high time and let the good times roll. Or just get off the bus and beat it on down the line.

I am a 48 year old deadhead with a job and a ski cabin. I listen to David's taper section every week. Now I have a jam of the week too. I listen to David's archive of GDHour. I have skied 26 days this year in Fernie British Columbia. I have 3kids and a great girlfriend. Deadheads have most excellent lives, because of the gift to live.

Who are The Grateful Dead? What are CDs? Can I get this in MP3? Oh they sold out of the $400 box set. So how many were available to begin with?

I think Woot is just mad that they couldn't get the rights to sell the box set themselves....

I guess the Amazonification of Woot is now officially complete. If it was actually funny, I could let this slide. But being ignorant about the facts and not being funny, that is inexcusable. I am guessing Amazon didn't get a piece of the $400 box sets that quickly sold out and the writer clearly doesn't know anything about a Dead tour or show. Too bad.

Yeah, it's definitely a bit too easy to poke fun at the Dead and their fans - particularly if you are completely ignorant of what it is you're talking about.

It's a mistake to try to convert (most) people. I get that some people just don't like the rambling, jam style of the music, or even a lot of the (myriad) genres that their music spans.
And as a late-teen/early 20's Deadhead, I find that now that I'm in my 40's, I don't really enjoy them as much as I used to.

It is true that the Dead's fan base runs the gamut, from the pseudo-hippy, unwashed, scumbag - "I have no job/money because I've devoted my life to dropping acid and following the Dead - so please give me your money/food/drugs/a place to sleep" - dregs of society to some of the wealthiest executives, celebrities and sports stars.
And everywhere in between.

The author of the OP clearly has no idea what he's talking about - the stuff about "60 CDs of roughly the exact same performance over and over and over", clearly demonstrates that he "just doesn't get it, man".

I understand and normally appreciate the Woot writers' acerbic wit. And let's face it - antagonizing their customers (all in fun) is a big part of what makes them so hip and amusing.

But usually their acerbic wit is intelligent and wry. In this case it's just misinformed and ignorant.

Despite my rambling, I'm really not personally affronted. Just disappointed that the writers really missed the mark on this one.

As I said, the Dead and their fans are an easy target, and had the author known even a little of what he was talking about, he would not have missed that target by so wide a margin.

Someone who doesn't have any idea what a barn is will have a pretty hard time hitting the broad side of one.

That's all - at least for now ;)
/rambling rant

Gatzby wrote:Just because someone is willing to throw money at something doesn't make it good. =P Trust us on this.

ROFLMAO

Perfect answer!

One more small thing:

You do know that the photo above (6/17/03) was taken 8 years after Jerry's death, right?

I need to get a job at Woot drafting clueless posts about things of which I know nothing. My
formula for a long career will be just to be as condescending and flippant as possible while doing my best to rile whomever is bound to be affected.

Then i'll toss it all off and sit back and enjoy the fruits of all my hard work.

The guy who wrote this copy should take off his hat and rub his head with a towel. Then he can resort to writing another essay on the impossibility of polishing a turd.

I did a rough estimate of the albums showing and came up with a round number of 440 CDs. If you consider each one to have 700 Mb worth of music on them, then you're looking at 308 Gb worth of data. I would rate your assumption that all this music..."this whole thing could fit on a flash drive. Not even a BIG flash drive, either" to be a flat erroneous conclusion.

k5fni wrote:I did a rough estimate of the albums showing and came up with a round number of 440 CDs. If you consider each one to have 700 Mb worth of music on them, then you're looking at 308 Gb worth of data. I would rate your assumption that all this music..."this whole thing could fit on a flash drive. Not even a BIG flash drive, either" to be a flat erroneous conclusion.

Doing a quick check of a typical two-set, three hour GD show, indicates that they run
about 1.1G. The box set is 60 cds and some of them, especially the third disc of the show will be only about three-quarters or half-full. I'm guessing that 22 shows would require, at most, 25G.

Slydon wrote:I would like to say that I genuinely appreciate this response. I didn't write this particular post (though I don't like the Dead at all and back Randy on that) but it's very nice to see someone on the Internet be able to say "Hey, I know your job is to be dumb, I just didn't agree with it this time" rather than calling for us to be fired because we made fun of their favorite band.

So just for you, I'll offer to listen to one song of your choice all the way through and give the band another chance, and maybe even post my feelings here in the comments if my mind is changed by your choice. Just let me know which one I'm trying and I'll get right on it.

Obviously "Touch of Grey" doesn't count. ;)

Wow - I am honored.
This is a big responsibility, so give me some time to come up with "the" song.
However, if you'd be willing to possibly listen to a second one, off the top of my head, "One More Saturday Night" comes to mind - probably because it was one of the more often repeated songs in the set lists of the Europe '72 tour posted above.
And that was always one of my favorites - I was always more of a fan of Bobby than Jerry (blasphemy!).

Keep in mind, I readily admit that the Dead is not for everyone, and also, I was never a fanatic "they can do no wrong" type of fan (those types annoyed me to no end).

But, thank you for having an open mind.
Listen to "One More Saturday Night" if you feel so inclined, but give me a bit to come up with my "official" choice.

p.s.: I'd be much more inclined to try to convert you into a fan of Frank Zappa than of the G.D.

Randall:

Yes, some people don't get it.

What is vengeful about wanting to sell a CD box set of material that was recorded almost 40 years ago? No one is forcing you to buy it.

Forget the fact that not all people who like the Dead were even around in 1972. You included?

Forget the fact that they made more money selling concert tickets than selling records, and that recordings of their concerts are still making more money than studio records.

Forget the fact that the recordings you can download on archive.net are audience tapes, not board tapes, and these are off a 16 track recorder.

Not everyone followed them from city to city in VW buses selling veggie burritos.

Being condescending to a large part of your readers is not funny.

Peace.