johnsonium


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garbyrator wrote:Yes, you are correct, for a car tuned for 87 will run great with 87 and wasteful for anything higher (however, gasoline providers to tend to put more cleaning agents in their higher grades, but you really don't need them.) The problem I have with your argument is that there is a place where high octane gas comes into play, i.e performance engines. Under your argument, performance AV equipment could mean that you need expensive cables, which I think the majority here would agree that you DON'T.

Don't mind me, I'm just messing with you now.



Recall that in my original analogy, I indicated that buying high-end cables just because you spent 10K on your system was like buying high-octane gas for a Mercedes just for the heck of it. I think this implies that the said Mercedes isn't spec'd for high octane. You are correct though that the analogy breaks down when you take into account that high octane fuel does serve a purpose for applications that require the extra energy it provides, whereas high-end cable are a waste of money no matter what. I concede your point there.

johnsonium


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For those that just have to blow their money on HDMI cables, why not go all-in and maybe help juice up the economy in Irvine, CA at the same time.

Check out this catalog:

http://www.audioquest.com/pdfs/RetailPriceBook_v2010-May-web.pdf

Their highest price 10' HDMI cable is $1795. Thus, this Woot would cost $3590 (+ $5 shipping). Some of their speaker wire is in the tens of thousands of dollars.

For all the people that missed this Woot, I'd suggest you go this route. Just think how excited you will be at the next poker night showing off your $1500+ HDMI cables to your buddies.

CodeAlpha


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Sorry. If you're looking for the best HDMI cable out there, I hear this cable offered at Best Buy will change your life. Seriously. Check out the reviews:


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Coffee+39.4%27+HDMI+Cable+-+White/1267764.p?id=1218245464814&skuId=1267764

unksol


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CodeAlpha wrote:Sorry. If you're looking for the best HDMI cable out there, I hear this cable offered at Best Buy will change your life. Seriously. Check out the reviews:


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Coffee+39.4%27+HDMI+Cable+-+White/1267764.p?id=1218245464814&skuId=1267764



The reviews made me laugh almost as much as that rediculous outlet on amazon.... Classic. I'd love to see some #$@$@$$ acutally reveiw this though, just for the laughs

jasontyo


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just got the 25 foot Phillips but who couldn't use more HDMI

gesantengoku


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I use the Amazon brand HDMI cable about $9 and works well.

check it out:

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297816446&sr=8-2

Pooba001


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kreegah wrote: unless you buy the cable from ... "Manster"


What, they make two headed HDMI cables?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055139/

johnsonium


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unksol wrote:The reviews made me laugh almost as much as that rediculous outlet on amazon.... Classic. I'd love to see some #$@$@$$ acutally reveiw this though, just for the laughs



I'm not sure what was funnier, the reviews or the people commenting on them trying to talk them down from this purchasing mistake.

laconic


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I thought the HDMI license forbid the use of spec type for marketing.

Taken from trademark and logo guidelines at hdmi.org.

Cable products are not allowed to make any reference to Version 1.4 or 1.4a of the HDMI Specification in any circumstance




I guess I should mention why... The cables only transfer data. They don't care if it's a 1.3 spec or 1.4 spec device. They transfer exactly the same.

The only two differences for cables are (besides length):
•ethernet over HDMI (so if you need it get one that supports this)
•standard or high speed (standard speed is up to 1080i, high speed is 1080p or higher)

desterado


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jmo05001 wrote:Disagree with your argument regarding fuel . High performance engines (Merc, BMW) are tuned for high octane. Although they will detune automatically for lower-octane, you are better off running them as specified. Running the engine outside it's manufacturer-designated parameters will put undue stress on the engine over time. I'm not saying that it will ruin your engine...but high octane fuel is not a scam...

that being said...buy cheap hdmi cables, and if you can't afford high octane fuel, buy regular gas until you can sell your car.



This is correct, higher compression engines essentially require higher octane fuels or they will pre-ignite/detonate.

Not really comparable to HDMI cables.

johnsonium


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desterado wrote:This is correct, higher compression engines essentially require higher octane fuels or they will pre-ignite/detonate.

Not really comparable to HDMI cables.



High-octane fuel for a regular car is a waste of money. High priced HDMI cables are a waste of money. That's the gist of the comparison and it still stands.

mwitt08


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johnsonium wrote:That's irresponsible advice. Are you saying that if a person puts money into the parts of their system that actually counts, the components and speakers, they should waste money on cables that will do nothing to improve the quality of their home entertainment experience? That's like saying that a person who buys a Mercedes should buy premium gas just for the heck of it. That said I don't get me started on the whole high octane rip-off. Of course, compared to premium cables, the amount of money gained through premium gas is a drop in the bucket.



I saw this and just had to comment. In regards to high octane fuel. I think you may have a misconception of its purpose. High performance cars are designed to have a higher compression ratio than normal cars. This allows for more energy to be used as work from the burning of fuel. The problem with a higher compression ratio is you have the possibility of combustion before the spark plug fires because of the higher temperature. Therefore, Octane, the main component of gas, is increased because it will not spontaneously combust at the higher temperatures, while the other hydro-carbons will.

In summary, if a car is designed to run on regular, high octane fuel will do nothing to improve performance. But if a car is designed to run on it, you can do some good damage if you don't buy it.

Why go into this. Well I think it fits with cables as well.

If you need the high speed then buy it or suffer performance, but if not then it wont improve anything.

KenHAVSHDTV


quality posts: 2 Private Messages KenHAVSHDTV

HDMI 1.4 = HDMI High Speed

1.4 will handle ARC (audio return), 3D, Ethernet, and 4k x 2k resolution.

These cables are High Speed. Nothing better at this time.

'Better Living Through Modern, Expensive, Electronic Devices'
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WRCsubeRS


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timmyd24601 wrote:Most people don't know what HDMI actually stands for...

Haphazardly Developed Mostly Intermittent

Another Sony product being shoved down our throats, HDMI can not beat a nice set of component video cables...




You do realize that Component Cables CANNOT transmit 1080p? And that Component Cables CANNOT carry Dolby TrueHD? Not even Optical Cables can carry Dolby TrueHD...

timmyd24601


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DallasFlier wrote:Yeah, "superior service" from someone who isn't smart enough to know and explain correctly to their customers why (digital) HDMI is preferable to component video (especially as cable lengths get longer) and instead quotes inane "meanings" for HDMI.

Superior service, timmy? NOT!




Wow... I'd just like to say, "Sorry Society, my HDMI quip was a joke, HDMI doesn't actually stand for 'Haphazardly Developed Mostly Intermittent' learn what sarcasm is..."

I'm really impressed that you could tell my intelligence by two posts, one of them wasn't serious... You most be a MENSA member to be reading into my post so much... All you have proven is that you're a lonely jerk who judges people...

You know what? you're right, HDMI often times is preferred, and much more convenient. But the fact is, I can make component videos work 100% of the time whereas there are many circumstances where HDMI isn't the best choice... For instance in longer runs (above 10 feet) the capacitance of the HDMI cable can get too large therefore creating packet loss errors and therefore creating bad quality signal...

So next time, before you call me an human and knock my intelligence, go get a college degree in Electrical Engineering with a minor in Electrical Technology... Then fail out because you're a judgmental prick...

seany187


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You can never have to many HDMI Cables!

Guess on the items in the Jar and win it, free, no catch!
http://www.canyouguesshowmuch.com

johnsonium


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mwitt08 wrote:I saw this and just had to comment. In regards to high octane fuel. I think you may have a misconception of its purpose. High performance cars are designed to have a higher compression ratio than normal cars. This allows for more energy to be used as work from the burning of fuel. The problem with a higher compression ratio is you have the possibility of combustion before the spark plug fires because of the higher temperature. Therefore, Octane, the main component of gas, is increased because it will not spontaneously combust at the higher temperatures, while the other hydro-carbons will.

In summary, if a car is designed to run on regular, high octane fuel will do nothing to improve performance. But if a car is designed to run on it, you can do some good damage if you don't buy it.

Why go into this. Well I think it fits with cables as well.

If you need the high speed then buy it or suffer performance, but if not then it wont improve anything.



This point has been reiterated over and over again by other poster. I wasn't talking about a car that was designed to run on high octane.

johnsonium


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timmyd24601 wrote:Wow... I'd just like to say, "Sorry Society, my HDMI quip was a joke, HDMI doesn't actually stand for 'Haphazardly Developed Mostly Intermittent' learn what sarcasm is..."

I'm really impressed that you could tell my intelligence by two posts, one of them wasn't serious... You most be a MENSA member to be reading into my post so much... All you have proven is that you're a lonely jerk who judges people...

You know what? you're right, HDMI often times is preferred, and much more convenient. But the fact is, I can make component videos work 100% of the time whereas there are many circumstances where HDMI isn't the best choice... For instance in longer runs (above 10 feet) the capacitance of the HDMI cable can get too large therefore creating packet loss errors and therefore creating bad quality signal...

So next time, before you call me an human and knock my intelligence, go get a college degree in Electrical Engineering with a minor in Electrical Technology... Then fail out because you're a judgmental prick...



It's not the capacitance of long cable runs that can cause a problem, it's the resistence/impedence. You should get your money back on your college education.

kh99


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johnsonium wrote:It's not the capacitance of long cable runs that can cause a problem, it's the resistence/impedence. You should get your money back on your college education.



Capacitance causes impedance, so that doesn't make sense.

You also spelled "resistance" and "impedance" wrong.

LBJLVC


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tetchypoo wrote:I am currently looking at two unused HDMI cables. So why in the name of heck am I considering buying six more?

Thanks Woot. You're like a curable disease that I constantly refuse the antidote for. And then roll around in a pile of you to get worse. And this no longer makes any sense. I had a long day; leave me alone. Stop! Fine, now I'm not going to buy you're Jatravartid cables. Oh, who am I kidding, I can't stay mad. Come here...



ha ha ha ha, yeah i bought some and was just looking to see if there are any post of delays but i just saw your post and started laughing. I have a use for one cable and bought 2 sets of 2. I hope these work out well but I believe all the through put of hdmi cables are the same at this point so I have no problem with purchasing them.

USCBOI07


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So, any shipping delays?
And when i bought my awesome 46" RCA flat screen, i could only afford 1 of Best Buy's cheapest in stock HDMI cable @ 27.99...and it was a 6'. so 2 12' HDMI for 9.99 plush 5 shipping is a steal to me. yay!
Anyway, shipping?
My PS3 is getting bored...

djpress


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USCBOI07 wrote:So, any shipping delays?



Mine (and probably everyone else's) hasn't shipped yet. This is Sirius GPP, I've gotten woot items faster than this, much less had them shipped.

Why can't my post say l.ame? why is it switching to Sirius GPP?

nascargirl8us


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Woot says that it could take up to 5 days to ship.....This is the 5th business day and I have still received no confirmation of shipment yet.

troyalee


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I still haven't received a confirmation from woot. We, the Hitchhikers?

Troy A. Lee

lotusvball


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The post office is closed today.

schmudlach


quality posts: 0 Private Messages schmudlach

Still not changed to "Shipped" on these. Is everyone else having delays?

USCBOI07


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I'm not seeing a thing yet. :-(
ps3...so...ronery!
Big Orphaned Cetacea? Soon?

bmurph920


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schmudlach wrote:Still not changed to "Shipped" on these. Is everyone else having delays?



Same here

shavus


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schmudlach wrote:Still not changed to "Shipped" on these. Is everyone else having delays?



Mine just changed to shipped as of this morning.

cycorythm


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Got the shipping notice this morning and the package today.

Ordered 2 - 2packs....got 1 - 3pack??? Anyone got any insight into this?

djpress


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cycorythm wrote:Got the shipping notice this morning and the package today.

Ordered 2 - 2packs....got 1 - 3pack??? Anyone got any insight into this?



Wow, that's awesome on both accounts. I don't have my package yet, but I have a tracking number. Though, the tracking number only says that the delivery was "initiated" and the anticipated delivery date is February 17th, which is obviously, painfully wrong.

MrsSmithinMO


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cycorythm wrote:Got the shipping notice this morning and the package today.

Ordered 2 - 2packs....got 1 - 3pack??? Anyone got any insight into this?




Same here. Shipping notice appeared this morning and then 1 box of 3 Memorex Cables was on my porch this afternoon. We'll see if the single appears in the next day or two.

DJGosch


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We'll see if the single appears in the next day or two.



As I understood it when I bought it, we were only getting two cables, so sounds like you got a good deal. Maybe they oversold for the amount they had?

MrsSmithinMO


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DJGosch wrote:As I understood it when I bought it, we were only getting two cables, so sounds like you got a good deal. Maybe they oversold for the amount they had?



They may have indeed oversold the item, but like djpress, I ordered 2 of the 2-pack. And like djpress, I expected to receive 4 cables, not the three that was in the factory-packed box.

DJGosch


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MrsSmithinMO wrote:They may have indeed oversold the item, but like djpress, I ordered 2 of the 2-pack. And like djpress, I expected to receive 4 cables, not the three that was in the factory-packed box.



Sorry, I read it wrong as if he bought just one. Hope it turns out for you.

jnevil


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Staff

cycorythm wrote:Got the shipping notice this morning and the package today.

Ordered 2 - 2packs....got 1 - 3pack??? Anyone got any insight into this?



MrsSmithinMO wrote:Same here. Shipping notice appeared this morning and then 1 box of 3 Memorex Cables was on my porch this afternoon. We'll see if the single appears in the next day or two.



I am sending both of you a Private Message regarding your order. If anyone else receives only part of their order, please contact us at service@woot.com.

buckee55


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jnevil wrote:I am sending both of you a Private Message regarding your order. If anyone else receives only part of their order, please contact us at service@woot.com.



Jnevil - I'll let you know as soon as I see the status move from "Shipment information sent to FedEx" at "Feb 17, 2011 6:33 PM"
Once it hits the post office it's anyone's guess!

"Regret for the past is a waste of the spirit"

Davidgalipp


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buckee55 wrote:Jnevil - I'll let you know as soon as I see the status move from "Shipment information sent to FedEx" at "Feb 17, 2011 6:33 PM"
Once it hits the post office it's anyone's guess!



I got my shipment today. A box of 3 and a single cable inside a larger box. No problems here!

lcompton


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Good afternoon.

KenHAVSHDTV wrote:HDMI 1.4 = HDMI High Speed

1.4 will handle ARC (audio return), 3D, Ethernet, and 4k x 2k resolution.

These cables are High Speed. Nothing better at this time.



It's always so lovely when people do their homework. Too bad our fellow Wooter, KenHAVSHDTV, didn't. :-(

These Memorex cables are High Speed HDMI, not High Speed HDMI w/Ethernet. Our fine fellow Wooter, KenHAVSHDTV, is wrong when he says there is nothing better at this time since it is possible to purchase a High Speed HDMI w/Ethernet cable.

For those who would like to actually learn more and stick with the facts, you can go here.

Thank you.

Lisa