elfletcho


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Narfcake wrote:Not that simple ... 4x the lights, 4x the current, but the same voltage. Put 12V to these (even in wired series), and odds are very good that something's gonna pop.

LEDs do have one big advantage over halogens - shock resistance.



Dude. You wire the lights in series. 3 volts drop across each, current is the same as one. Basic electric circuits.

Next time check your self before you dump on someones idea.

junk21


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I'm in for 4, i have two smaller versions of myself that happen to cause flashlight disappearance and for that matter tape measures as well. woot how about some nice fancy tape measures next?

nofaz


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"Analyzed Aluminum", you guys are funiee.

rockytopthad


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if you google/froogle "Cree LED" you'll learn that this flashlight may have JUST a Cree LED BULB. The actual flashlight's probably made by some cheezy knockoff (maybe "Kree").

Caffeineismydrug


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Anybody know if the input voltage driver will support 7.2V? They make 3.6V Lithium D-Cells that are on the order of 12AHr, and lighter than alkaline D cells. Roughly 3 times the capacity.

It makes the flash light a little less of a weapon, but it could run all day.

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danielm


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sssprinkle wrote:Reddy Kilogram? Who the heck is that, the spokesperson for Nutrisystem? An old cartoon icon the Carter Administration used to help sell Metric Scales?

So please tell me Thunder Thighs - Was the copywriter trying to be funny? Afraid of violating the copyright from a 70-year old cartoon character? Or, is my fear confirmed that he thought that was the actual name...



Sounds like you know, as well as I, that the actual character is Reddy Kilowatt.

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msilverstone


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For only twice the price (not including shipping in either case) you can get one 220 Lumen 5-mode 3 AAA battery adjustable beam magnetic base flashlight:

http://www.amazon.com/Nebo-Redline-Tactical-Flashlight-5557/dp/B0049M8I22/

not to mention an "Aggressive self-defense face" whatever that means.

sssprinkle


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danielm wrote:Sounds like you know, as well as I, that the actual character is Reddy Kilowatt.

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With phrases like "Reddy Kilogram" and "analyzed aluminum" I think the copywriter was just trying to be "funny". Unfortunately, I think he/she only achieved "fairly whimsical" today...

lethargicmass


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hensbobkat wrote:where do you get adapter shells?



http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aa+to+d+cell+adapter


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lethargicmass


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901Memphis wrote:In for one. Won't replace my olight m20 warrior r5 @ 320 lumens that I usually edc but will make a good glovebox light



budd0413 wrote:That's a nice light, my current edc is a fenix pd31



What is this "edc" that is used sometimes as a verb, and sometimes as a noun?


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baumgkat


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The (not so) witty banter in the product description also contained a grammar mistake. Everyone knows you don't "borrow" something to someone, but you also do not "loan" something to someone--you "lend" it to them. Loan is a noun, lend is a verb. JUST SAYING.

ledastray


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lethargicmass wrote:What is this "edc" that is used sometimes as a verb, and sometimes as a noun?



Every Day Carry.

A flashlight or other tool you will always have with you. (At two D size, I doubt these flashlights will count. Well, perhaps if you have a utility or work belt....)



lethargicmass


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wow4less wrote:9.5 inches? That isn't very big to use as a self-defense item, at least not for me. About 5 inches in the palm, leaves 4 inches of usable metal? I'll pass for a 3 cell model.



I have a 5-D-Cell Brinkman that I never use because 5 D cells cost too much. But it was "useful" when I was a bouncer many, many lives ago.


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chhunak


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fe428623 wrote:3,000,000 lumens is my minimum. I mean, why buy a Yugo when you can get a Lamborghini?



Only the SUN can give you 3,0000,000 lumens.

Chucky2012

lethargicmass


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ZanduarMagnus wrote:Despite being a standard unit of light it is hard to visual how much a flashlight produces in lumens. Can anyone give examples, pictures, videos, etc?



Yes; check three posts earlier than yours.


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lethargicmass


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sssprinkle wrote:Reddy Kilogram? Who the heck is that, the spokesperson for Nutrisystem? An old cartoon icon the Carter Administration used to help sell Metric Scales?

So please tell me Thunder Thighs - Was the copywriter trying to be funny? Afraid of violating the copyright from a 70-year old cartoon character? Or, is my fear confirmed that he thought that was the actual name...



I didn't even notice the "gram" part; like most humans, my brain saw what it expected to see, so I read it as "watt." Glad you pointed it out so that I can also wonder why the copy writer used the approximation.


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lethargicmass


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baumgkat wrote:The (not so) witty banter in the product description also contained a grammar mistake. Everyone knows you don't "borrow" something to someone, but you also do not "loan" something to someone--you "lend" it to them. Loan is a noun, lend is a verb. JUST SAYING.




O RLY?


loan [lohn]

noun
1. the act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: the loan of a book.
2. something lent or furnished on condition of being returned, especially a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10 percent interest.
3. loanword.

verb (transitive)
4. to make a loan of; lend: Will you loan me your umbrella?
5. to lend (money) at interest.

verb (intransitive)
6. to make a loan or loans; lend.


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amick827


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DennisEChung wrote:You can get 1 X AA to D adapters here, and 2 X AA to D adapters here. Delivery takes 4-6 weeks, but they are cheap and great for toys. I wouldn't trust them with my life but neither would I these lights.

Eneloop multi-packs at wholesale clubs often come with D and C adapters, or at least they used to.



You can also get the adapters from Amazon and they'll only take a few days to arrive. Eneloop batteries are the way to go; I use them in just about everything these days.


florabama


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Yeah! I just popped my Woot virginity. I just Wooted for the first time and what a great deal. I got two 2-pack flashlights and since you only pay one $5 shipping fee, the total order was 34.98. That's $8.75 a flashlight. Can't beat that. Going to put one in my daughters car and give one to my son. Keep the other two around the house since hurricane season is coming in Florida.

otnogas


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Nice WOOT. I love LED's... they most likely will outlast you.

I'd be In42 if a friend hadn't already gifted me a Cree XPC LED that produces 100 lumens of light, and is very bright with 3 modes (low-high-strobe) and an extra red led on the smooth switch for low battery warning. Takes 3xAAA (barrel cartridge).

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simple212


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The Brinkmann 809-1085-1 LED flashlight is brighter and smaller.  And takes normal AAA batteries.   There is a good/thorough review at Amazon.

abodao


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andrelook wrote:[quote postid="4362444" user="andrelook"]The right way to say this is,

Nearly all new quality flashlights use a circuit to run the LED. What this means is that no matter if you use 2 x 1.5 = 3.0 volts or a 3.7 volt lithium cell the output to the led lamp will be the same .. so that you get the same light output. If you see a difference in the light output when you use different batteries then you have a flashlight with no circuitry and it is a cheap design.

The reason for using a circuit is so that the output stays the same no matter the battery condition. Circuits also get the most power out of the battery as possible.

If you're interested the circuits are called a buck or boost circuit. They use a transistor switch and coil transformer to boost or drop (buck) the voltage from the battery(ies). The circuits are about $2 if you buy them separately at dealextreme or other sites online. You can make your own flashlight or led output lamp easily with battery, the circuit, and a lamp. You need to put it into something of course. Sites, like DX above, sell flashlight cases too.

This product, I suspect, does not have a circuit. That's why they use D cells. The output of a D cell is even over a long time .. and so a flashlight can work in the correct range for the led bulb for a long time. The downside is that 1.D cells are expensive compared to using rechargeable AA batteries. Without a circuit you'll see a drop off of light for 10 20 or more hours at the end of the D cell life. This isn't acceptable when the initial output, from the flashlight, is 160 lumen to begin with. A 100 watt regular incandescent lamp is 1300 lumen (about). 1/10 of that is about the same as a 10 watt incandescent bulb. This is quite low light output. It's enough to see in a room but you can get 2x the output for the same $10 price on ebay or any of the Chinese sites using a circuit, AA rechargeable batteries.

The only good about this deal is that you get a large flashlight 'case' which you can modify later. And you get a large flashlight case.. which you might prefer over something small. And it's woot so you know you'll get it fast and in good condition. I suppose all that's worth $10



Excellent explanation-Thank you!

martinj725


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In for 2

otnogas


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msilverstone wrote:For only twice the price (not including shipping in either case) you can get one 220 Lumen 5-mode 3 AAA battery adjustable beam magnetic base flashlight:

http://www.amazon.com/Nebo-Redline-Tactical-Flashlight-5557/dp/B0049M8I22/

not to mention an "Aggressive self-defense face" whatever that means.



About the "Aggressive self-defense face"... take the flashlight in one hand and press the business end into the palm of your other hand and twist... you will find that the serrated ridges of the "crown" can do a bit of damage.

msilverstone


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otnogas wrote:About the "Aggressive self-defense face"... take the flashlight in one hand and press the business end into the palm of your other hand and twist... you will find that the serrated ridges of the "crown" can do a bit of damage.



Sure, I understand what you are saying, but does that have anything to do with a practical way to defend yourself?

cjpowers


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andrelook wrote:The right way to say this is,

we could not have cared less or

We couldn't care less

That's English.. Nothing personal.. 1/2 the people who say this don't have a clue what they are really saying



I could care less (and I know exactly what I am saying).

ferarta


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I think these have only one led inside. But I don't think it will be enough for me..

paulsvolks75


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hensbobkat wrote:where do you get adapter shells?



Radio shack

msilverstone


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cjpowers wrote:I could care less (and I know exactly what I am saying).



I too could care less. But, since I do not have enough time to figure out just how much I do care now, I will not care less.

Even if I should care less.

ExtremeHobo


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msilverstone wrote:For only twice the price (not including shipping in either case) you can get one 220 Lumen 5-mode 3 AAA battery adjustable beam magnetic base flashlight:

http://www.amazon.com/Nebo-Redline-Tactical-Flashlight-5557/dp/B0049M8I22/

not to mention an "Aggressive self-defense face" whatever that means.



I have that light and I love it. Sits next to my bed with my judge. The button on the back of the light glows in the dark so its perfect for a bedside light.

tpscan


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Kuragari wrote:Not nearly as good as the recent serenghetti flashlights, these are more expensive and aren't as good.



I disagree. I have both. I have 6 of the Serengeti light, sold two weeks ago and 8 of the Brinkman models sold last year, ones with the Luxeon 3-watt emitters.

The Serengeti, at full power, is slightly brighter, with a similar beam width. However, the smaller flashlight (the Serengeti) does not have the total energy of the D-cell unit.
(3 * AAA-cells x 1.41 Wh = 4.23 Watt*Hours vs
2 D-cells x 20.83 Wh = 41.66 Watt*Hours, a 10-1 ratio).

The D-cell units will work for hours and days. Let it roll around in the back of the truck. It will be easy to find when you need it. It will last as long as you do. The smaller light works well when needed, but fills a niche focused more on convenience, than utility. Durable, but made for burglary, not day-long sieges.

Size can matter in other ways. When wearing gloves in cold weather, the smaller light is hard to grasp for long. The larger, 2-D cell really is more comfortable for long use or when gloved. I can tuck it under an arm when walking in the dark. I have used the butt of the D-cell light to break ice in watering troughs, de-ice padlock and to nudge a sticking door on a coop.

If an attacker does threaten, I know I have a choice. I could blind him with the light, bludgeon him with the case butt or spotlight him for proper targeting as I take a combat brace with the Glock resting on the barrel of the light.

OTOH -- when you need a handy, pocket-sized flash to find your keys, read a map or blind someone approaching on a lonely street corner, the small pocket flash is ideal.

If threatened I would not use the tiny "tactical" Serengeti as a bludgeon or fist weapon, but it also pairs sleekly with the Glock for targeting, for those at home in the more refined urban or suburban environment.

Each light has it's place. As I said, I have both. Both work well as lights or shooting accessories. Every citizen should carry the essentials appropriate to their environment.

BTW -- the Glock I usually carry is a compact frame model, built for the powerful, mad-bull-stopping 10mm round. But I also have the matching 0.40 caliber barrel for this Glock, chambered for the more economical, lighter recoil, FBI-lite round, more suited to the urban environment. Especially true when paired with hollow point ammo (vs metal jacketed) to prevent stray rounds penetrating walls. Either work well on wolves, wild-dogs or drunks. I recommend considering the combo for those comfy in both city and country environments.

Just a tip to the well-equipped but considerate citizen.

tpscan


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ferarta wrote:I think these have only one led inside. But I don't think it will be enough for me..



These are single LED units, but they use a special built, over-driven LED designed for efficiency and LIGHTING not a display LED converted to a light source.

The number of LEDs is not an issue, unless your goal is a diffuse or multi-color light source. The power and efficiency of an LED light source is related to current through the junction, doping and heat dissipation. These LEDs actually have a special driver circuit that controls the current at an optimal maximum, by pulsing and shaping the V*I source.

This is a very good flashlight. You can get better, but you will pay 3 to 30 times more.

southcutt


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richclrk wrote:They have a droid app that is a picture of an iPhone with a picture of these flashlights on it.



But are they Mac compatible?!

iGGz


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Could someone help answer my question over on the other Woot dimension?

http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/0af4cb9b-37bb-4bd5-af50-43ae6db9c997/is-there-a-god

Thanks.

_____________________________________________

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You're the giant Ken Jennings head? HOW DID YOU GET OUT?

tpscan


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simple212 wrote:The Brinkmann 809-1085-1 LED flashlight is brighter and smaller.  And takes normal AAA batteries.   There is a good/thorough review at Amazon.



Umm, thanks for your opinion and the link, ... which I think you forgot. I believe you were referring to this page on the Brinkmann 809-1085-1 Armor Max LED Flashlight@Amazon .

I just want to point out that the term better is hard to define, so adding details and metrics are useful. It makes it possible to make proper comparison.

One point, the unit you linked does take AAA. Normal? You can use any type of AAA battery the case compartment fits.

However, the selling point of a D-cell versus AAA or AA flashlight is a matter of taste. D-cells offer greater energy capacity than the others. Capacity translates to longer life at a given power. The comparison is roughly 1.4 Watt*hour to 2.6 Wh to 21 Wh, respectively. The trade-off between size, weight and total energy capacity is something that every owner has to decide.

See some of the other posts and visit the CandlePower (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/) website to see how heated the discussion can get.

Even discussion of "brightness" can get confusing because total output power gets "painted" over a spot that depends on the reflector focusing. Even a low output light can be tightly focused to create a very bright spot. So you see, the discussion gets confused when vague terms are used without the full specs.

tpscan


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iGGz wrote:Could someone help answer my question over on the other Woot dimension?

http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/0af4cb9b-37bb-4bd5-af50-43ae6db9c997/is-there-a-god

Thanks.



Yes!

You are welcome.

iGGz


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tpscan wrote:Yes!

You are welcome.



Thank you!

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You're the giant Ken Jennings head? HOW DID YOU GET OUT?

benjamin12


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tpscan wrote:Similar items sold before: My Experience:

About 16 months ago, 9/Nov/2009 and again on 23/Feb/2010, WOOT sold a Brinkman branded version of this 3-watt, 2 D-cell flashlight for $10 each. (see Brinkmann 3 Watt Luxeon LED Aluminum Flashlight and Brinkmann 3 Watt Luxeon LED Aluminum Flashlight - 2 Pack)

When you look at the description and picture, you'll see they are the same, just Cree bulbs in unbranded cases, instead of Brinkman branded. Based on what I see, they are identical. Suspect they are a common manufacturer.

I bought six of these for use on our farm and in work trucks. We raise poultry and are out in the cold, the wet weather, or in heavy dust and corrosive chicken poop.

I have more than a year's experience with these. These flashlights have been durable and dependable. So far they have held up great, despite the abuse, moisture and corrosive environment. They are incredibly bright. They illuminate at least 500-600 feet in the fields, or light up a corner of a coop, barn or roadway without any problems.

They are heavy, hard to lose. The cases are tough aluminum, easy to grip. Strong enough to hammer a stuck latch or break ice with. The D-cells have burned for many hours with minimal loss of brightness. In most cases, we are still using the original set of cells. I have changed just two sets out of 6, so I believe the claim they will burn 30 hrs or more on a set of standard alkaline batteries. I've done it.

We had one light that had a cold solder connection to the Cree module. It failed after being dropped 15 feet. Brinkman replaced it for free after we emailed them. It does not say what the Cree warranty is but it appears these de-branded lights only carry the WOOT 90 day warranty, but I would trust these to be equally durable. Just check the bulb mount when you receive the light to see if the solder job looks good. If it works on day one, like any LED, it should work for 1000s of hours.

The light module and reflector are fixed focus, and a very tight beam, with a small side lobe. The body itself is O-ring sealed (clearly seen in the pictures) so it is water resistant. I have dropped it in puddles, broken ice in water troughs and stood in driving rain without any leakage. The Brinkman lights have plastic lenses, I assume these are the same. The ones I have been using for the last year have not scratched. They are tough lenses and very clear.

The only under $50 LED light I have seen brighter than this is the Serengeti lights sold about two weeks ago which uses 3 AAA cells in series (correction: had said Cr123, but the Serengeti does not use CR123s). I suspect the burn time per set of batteries AAAs is much less than a set of Ds.

And someone asked about the dimming with age because this uses 2 D-cells (3.1 vdc) misses the point. For optimal output, the driver for the Cree LED control circuit uses a voltage boost, raising the voltage to maintain a constant current. These high output LED lamps require a very carefully controlled current to work. So 2.7 volts or 4.5 volts is irrelevant due to the design of the driver circuits.

BTW - I can use these as a shooters light with the 30-06 or the Glock 29 when shooting raccoons down at the coops during the night, with great effect at 150-200 feet. Tactical enough for my use.

I recommend them and plan on buying the max today.

Any other questions?

Edited to add info, correct info on CR123 batteries, note 90-day warranty and make URLs clickable.



I couldn't agree with you more. You'll never find a flashlight of this quality for the money. I have the Brinkmans here on our horse farm in Tn. They do an excellent job of lighting up the pastures at night. Alot of people throwing around a lot of techno mumbo/jumbo about a simple $15 flashlight. But some EXPERTS could find something wrong with a goose that lays golden eggs. Bottom line is, if you want a nice bright flashlight that throws a long beam, buy these, you won't be disappointed!! And they do not eat batteries like some people are trying to imply, I know first hand from useage. I think I've gone through one set of batteries since I've had mine and I use these lights a lot.

tpscan


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Caffeineismydrug wrote:Anybody know if the input voltage driver will support 7.2V? They make 3.6V Lithium D-Cells that are on the order of 12AHr, and lighter than alkaline D cells. Roughly 3 times the capacity.

It makes the flash light a little less of a weapon, but it could run all day.


An interesting thought. I guess there is one way to test this ....

Do you want a want a YouTube video of the light as I crank up the voltage on the bench PS to smoke test it??

{rolls eyes at the crazy Woot geeks}
. . . time passes . . .
{gives some serious thought to doing a MythBusters experiment}


NightGhost


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tpscan wrote:BTW -- the Glock I usually carry is a compact frame model, built for the powerful, mad-bull-stopping 10mm round. But I also have the matching 0.40 caliber barrel for this Glock, chambered for the more economical, lighter recoil, FBI-lite round, more suited to the urban environment. Especially true when paired with hollow point ammo (vs metal jacketed) to prevent stray rounds penetrating walls. Either work well on wolves, wild-dogs or drunks. I recommend considering the combo for those comfy in both city and country environments.

Just a tip to the well-equipped but considerate citizen.



Just out of curiosity, which have attacked you more often - wolves, wild-dogs or drunks?