greatwhite35


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warp Wikipedia! This is taken right from HDMI.ORG

High Speed HDMI Cable
The High Speed HDMI cable is designed and tested to handle video resolutions of 1080p and beyond, including advanced display technologies such as 4K, 3D, and Deep Color. If you are using any of these technologies, or if you are connecting your 1080p display to a 1080p content source, such as a Blu-ray Disc player, this is the recommended cable.

It is sufficient for 3D signals...and BEYOND!!

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/finding_right_cable.aspx

Toothy, The Hamptons (160 woots and 3 Bunch of 60s Cartoons#39;s as of April 1, 2013!!)

greatwhite35


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jeffiekins wrote:HDMI 1.4 is the next-to-newest. The ONLY thing it doesn't support is 3D @ 1080p 60 Hz. It does support the lower-res versions of 3D.

You can see for yourself on Wikipedia.

And, yes, (someone's gonna ask): it puts the sound and the picture through the same cable; all HDMI cables do.



WRONG!! It does support 3D. Now go stand in the corner! :D

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/finding_right_cable.aspx

Toothy, The Hamptons (160 woots and 3 Bunch of 60s Cartoons#39;s as of April 1, 2013!!)

kmartind


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This is starting to get a bit off topic, but if anyone is actually interested in the physical and electrical characteristics of an HDMI cable, a decently written guide, including up to v1.4 is here:
http://www.the-cable-store.com/contents/en-us/HDMI%20eBook%20Version%201-5.pdf

There are 4-5 twisted pairs in an HDMI cable, plus additional wires. There can be significant differences in the wire material and gauge and strands per conductor (affecting jitter, impedance and attenuation), shielding (to protect from interference), the number of twists per inch for each twisted pair and their relative position (which also affects interference as well as crosstalk), etc. The longer the cable, the more difference these things make. Worst case, with a relatively long and out of spec (or non-high speed) cable you might get no picture at all when trying to run the higher bandwidth signals like 1080p 3D. Otherwise you might occasionally see "sparkles" or dropouts due to data errors.

In any case, these particular cables are both short and 1.4 High Speed, so they should work fine in all cases, unless you get a dud.

JamesatBB


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High Speed HDMI 1.3 cables can support all HDMI 1.4 features except for the HDMI Ethernet Channel

That being said, I get 6 ft. 1.3 cables all the time for $1 a piece from meritline, with free shipping. Sometimes you have to buy two. But whatever. $1-$2 is a heck of a lot better than this deal unless you need the 1 feature HDMI 1.4 offers.

John1000


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I have not even read the comments on this item, but what do you do with 3' of HDMI cable???? Maybe hook them together with the HDMI extensions that maybe you bought here at WOOT to make 6'. Again, why would anyone want two 3' cable for $9 when for less than $10 at your local store can get 10' for less than $10. I am not seeing a value here today at all. Even if you needed multiple short cables, I am sure you can find a better deal anywhere - I mean - anywhere.

Ok - I haven't completely thought this through. Let's say you get six 3' HDMI cables for $17. That it still only 18' if you connect them together with connectors that you have paid for. Again, I'm not seeing a good value here. I suspect that the majority of the comments here will agree with this obvious observation. Unless you need some "patch" HDMI cables, how is this a good deal??? For those of you who need a lot of really short HDMI cables, go for it and be happy.

adrianbeckett


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http://reviews.cnet.com/hdmi-guide/
This link tells you all you need to know about HDMI cables

fennellk


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$3.99 for two and they're are priced at $26.99 each on their website, seems like a good deal to me.

http://www.memorex.com/en-us/Accessories/Cables/HDMI-Cables/

barbdaman


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Speaking on behalf of the more fortunate woot community. I have a entertainment center that sits on my 60" philips. it has multiple ports and the entertainment center has a shelf right below my television that holds all of my HDMI
compatible devices which are LESS than three feet away from my Televisions HDMI port.

For anyone complaining about how they atleast need 6' or even 10' not to be a prude however, you did have options when you were purchasing your television (Believe it or not there is more than one brand of television) and most human beings do tend to have foresight (some more than others, proven so in this discussion.)

I suppose what gets me the most is so much time is spent on telling others what a bad deal this is considering in all reality these negative posts about these product are actually hate filled rants by jealous people who don't know how to properly invest their money in an economical fashion.....and they probably like having their xbox in the middle of their floor so they don't have to move much while playing COD:BO while their mothers serve them pizza rolls in their basement.

mjonatzke


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The shipping kills this deal... but Amazon already knew that.

word.

JReedNet


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I'd much rather spend $97.98 on a 3 foot Monster cable with Dual XD-4D-Mark 4 high speed gold platinum support.

ysuboy


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At $2.83 each (when you buy 3 sets) this is a hard bargain to pass up. To all, do not let the hype fool you about needing expensive cables. I used to work at a couple high end electronics stores and we always touted about how wonderful and great the cables were that we were selling. Its all snake oil none of it is real and if you see a difference, your mind is playing tricks on you. I had a customer come in with a 50' HDMI he bought off like for like $20 (somewhere around that price) and he wanted to see how bad it was going to look compared to a good cable. Being all cocky I whipped out a 3' long HDMI cable that we (brace yourself) sold for $300. We hooked it up to the nicest TV we had at the store (at the time it was the Pioneer Elite I cannot remember the model number off the top of my head but it did not have a tuner in it, it was just a monitor, it was 1080p) we did not notice a lick of a difference. The source was from a bluray player so it was a clean direct source. We did not go through a receiver. The customer was obviously happy with his purchase and left the store holding his head up high. So yeah, the only thing I would really be concerned about is if you are connecting and reconnecting the cables. Some cheaper cables, the ends tend to break because they are cheaply made. Other then that, I would not worry. Now these cables are VERY short. I am buying them because I have a AV rack that allows me to get behind my gear without having to pull something out. If you have to do any of the sort, I would not get these as you are setting yourself up for disaster. Ok I rambled on for too long now.
Cheers

MajorPITA


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ysuboy wrote:At $2.83 each (when you buy 3 sets) this is a hard bargain to pass up. To all, do not let the hype fool you about needing expensive cables. I used to work at a couple high end electronics stores and we always touted about how wonderful and great the cables were that we were selling. Its all snake oil none of it is real and if you see a difference, your mind is playing tricks on you. I had a customer come in with a 50' HDMI he bought off like for like $20 (somewhere around that price) and he wanted to see how bad it was going to look compared to a good cable. Being all cocky I whipped out a 3' long HDMI cable that we (brace yourself) sold for $300. We hooked it up to the nicest TV we had at the store (at the time it was the Pioneer Elite I cannot remember the model number off the top of my head but it did not have a tuner in it, it was just a monitor, it was 1080p) we did not notice a lick of a difference. The source was from a bluray player so it was a clean direct source. We did not go through a receiver. The customer was obviously happy with his purchase and left the store holding his head up high. So yeah, the only thing I would really be concerned about is if you are connecting and reconnecting the cables. Some cheaper cables, the ends tend to break because they are cheaply made. Other then that, I would not worry. Now these cables are VERY short. I am buying them because I have a AV rack that allows me to get behind my gear without having to pull something out. If you have to do any of the sort, I would not get these as you are setting yourself up for disaster. Ok I rambled on for too long now.
Cheers



You're right that $2.83 is a good deal for each, and I may be tooting my own horn here but I posted a deals.woot deal 10 days ago with a better deal for cables twice as long... HERE. You're also very correct about the placebo effect telling you that a more expensive cable is somehow better.

Also anyone saying that a "high speed" cable at these lengths is going to do you a lick of good is dumb. There is no way a signal with nothing but 1s and 0s is going to degrade at these distances. If you go upwards of 25' now you may need a cable with more shielding...but not less than. Anyway, happy wooting!

Myndex


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hhorders wrote:go to monoprice.com

bigger selection; better prices for one with som elength



I second that.

kahawken


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Myndex wrote:I second that.



I just placed order (30 ft.) online prior to seeing this on Amazon (PRIME) vs. Monoprice due to shipping was going to be +- $7.50. I needed a number of small items...kept coming back to Monoprice but the shipping put a stop to that order.

bryan3509


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Can you these to connect an Apple computer to your TV so the image on the computer shows on the T.V?

MajorPITA


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bryan3509 wrote:Can you these to connect an Apple computer to your TV so the image on the computer shows on the T.V?



If your Apple computer has an HDMI out then yes, if it has a mini display port (like my MacBook Pro) you'll need an adapter you can get at Amazon or directly from Apple. Then you can use this cord. With the display port adapter it'll also port audio to the TV through the HDMI cable.

reebs07


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Just bought 3 6' cables for $6.48 on monoprice shipped.

bobauh2o


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The difference between CAT 5 and CAT 5E is the number of twist per inch which also affects the far end and near end cross talk. As long as you have quality CAT 5 cable with properly terminated rj45's it will work fine between 2 Gigabit devices. The issue is when there are multiple devices using the same wire. There would then be an abundance of collisions which would degrade performance but not noticeable to the average home user. Actually, you could hook barb wire between 2 Gigabit devices as long as the devices have sufficient error correction (seen it done many times at CES.)

I guess you are going to tell me that the gold tips make a difference too on a digital interface? Do you work for Monster?

kmartind wrote:Here is where you're completely wrong. Go take introduction to electronics. There can be (and often are) HUGE differences in the way a signal is transmitted through a cable and the interference it picks up and generates depending on the physical and electrical properties of the cable. As a simple example, go find a Category 5 (not 5e) Ethernet cable of, say 100 feet, and use it to connect two Gigabit Ethernet devices. See what happens, and then swap it for a Category 6 Ethernet cable and try again. The difference is less between HDMI Category 1 ("Standard") and HDMI Category 2 ("High Speed") but if you get a cable that's not high speed it was not designed for, nor tested at 10.2Gbps and is only certified to work up to 2.25Gbps (1080i). You might get lucky and have it work fine without any noticeable data errors, especially if it's short, but it's not a particularly good idea.



fuhrysteve


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Question: Will my TV play faster because this cable is High Speed?

scubalab


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Is everyone who is complaining about the length REALLY serious? Or do you just feel the need to complain about something?!? 3' is the PERFECT length of cable when you need to connect two components less than 3' apart, which (YES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT) may be the case for some people.

Components in a rack connected to your receiver? 3' is perfect folks! Now, if the ad says they're 3', and when you get them, they're only 2.5'... THEN they're too short! :p

gkcmilner


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PERFECT length for my rack setup! It's tough to find good cables at a good length for this price.
Longer isn't always better (no "that's what she said" jokes needed). I hate having lots of excess cable behind my components to try and manage.
Everytime Woot has HDMI cables all the HDMI "Experts" come out of the woodwork to "Warn" us that cheap cables are just as good as expensive cables. Well I bought one cheap 15' cable from Monoprice to connect my laptop to my TV and it will not stay connected. I have to hold it in place. I bought a Philips cable from Woot and it stays connected.

TheGogmagog


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kmartind wrote:... You might get lucky and have it work fine without any noticeable data errors, especially if it's short, but it's not a particularly good idea.

This is the first time I've seen it presented this way. The difference is based on testing to that standard, more like the 3.5 floppy drives of yester-century. The high density and low density ones were made on the same machines, just the high density were tested for full (256k?) capacity. You could cut out the physical marker for high density and format a ld disk ash hd. But you usually had some bad sectors so you only really got 220k, but it was still better than (128) at half the price.

I bought some HDMI cables for $2 (probably on sellout two years ago). They might be responsible for some of the pixilating, but I'm more inclined to blame the cable company. Either way I'm comfortable with. Just as in your suggested test, I'd be fine with a cat5 I have giving me 700MB over buying a cat5e so I get the full potential.

Many arn't and should not skimp. They might also consider getting the gold plated wall outlets.

HikingStick


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aoviss wrote:I got an entire box full of cables; HDMI in different colors and lengths, SATA 90-degree with locks, and quadruplicates of 5 different lengths of USB-mini-B for my Kindle, and four 10-gauge silicone-coated PC power cords (NFPA 310.16 says its legal for 30 amps, more than what the recept is rated at in VA lol) for $31 shipped. This item tonight are for grandmothers that buy their grandkids the TRANSMORPHERS movie instead of the TRANSFORMERS movie, and pay more for it.



If you needed all those cables, you got a great deal. If not, this is a fine price for the only cable many people need.

HikingStick
Blessings Of Commerce> Seven!
Woots> 36 and counting!
Sellout Woots> Eight.
Shirt Woots> Two (BoCarrots, The Raven).
Kids Woots> Eight.

Chadricco


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joshthegeek wrote:ts;db

too short - didn't buy



This is the perfect length for interconnecting devices in the HT component tower! Maybe you are, but I'm not a fan of 22' extra feet of cables coiled up behind the gear.

kreegah


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TheGogmagog wrote:

I bought some HDMI cables for $2 (probably on sellout two years ago). They might be responsible for some of the pixilating, but I'm more inclined to blame the cable company. Either way I'm comfortable with. Just as in your suggested test, I'd be fine with a cat5 I have giving me 700MB over buying a cat5e so I get the full potential.



Heathen! Everyone knows you should be buying your own raw spool of Cat5e and terminating them yourself. Now, if only I could find the time to work on my HDMI crimping tool idea.... :D

Side note: my two 12' HDMI cables from a previous woot are fantastic.If I hadn't bought the four-pack of 4' HDMI cables from a still earlier woot, I'd be all over these.

ajohnson1


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Bah, I always get my cables from Monoprice. They have 3' HDMI cables for around $2.30 everyday.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=7850

matthewjfazio


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"These do not match up to the quality of Monster-brand cables.

I can see and hear the difference while watching late night Cinemax, even when I get right up close to the screen.

Thank you,

-Trolly McTroll"

- Matthew J. Fazio

Unique616


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I bought a longer version of this cable during a woot-off. My only complaint is how its packaged. Memorex coiled up the cable in the back and then bent both ends in a hard U shape the front to show the customer its gold plated. I don't like this because taking any cable and bending it over on itself is how kinks are made. I wish they had just left it natural, like this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0002L5R78/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_2?ie=UTF8&index=2

Picture only for reference.

borntohunt


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Good price. Glad they are certified saying "high speed" hdmi cables.

Definitely much better with this 5-in-1 cable than running the next best 4 to 5 component cables for video & audio.

These Memorex HDMI cables should go well with all the previous Memorex Blu-Ray players sold earlier on WOOT.





dgg23


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I just bought two 4' Rockfish HDMI cables for $50 a piece from BestBuy. Needless to say they are going back first thing tomorrow- in for a few.

JordanTG


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Hey everyone complaining about how long these are. You get 2! Mcgyver them and soon you will have a nice 5' 7 cable to use.

Also they're only $4 - stop complaining!

yamahapilot


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While we're on 'snake oil' don't forget these:

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm

unksol


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bobauh2o wrote:The difference between CAT 5 and CAT 5E is the number of twist per inch which also affects the far end and near end cross talk. As long as you have quality CAT 5 cable with properly terminated rj45's it will work fine between 2 Gigabit devices. The issue is when there are multiple devices using the same wire. There would then be an abundance of collisions which would degrade performance but not noticeable to the average home user. Actually, you could hook barb wire between 2 Gigabit devices as long as the devices have sufficient error correction (seen it done many times at CES.)

I guess you are going to tell me that the gold tips make a difference too on a digital interface? Do you work for Monster?



So you are going to compare 24 gauge cat5 cable to 15 gauge barb wire? of COURSE its going to work. The barb wire has a much larger surface area.

Cat5 will work well for gigabit, but it is going limit your transfer speed.It is noticeable to the average home user, try his experiment.And comparing computer data transmission to video is just silly. In a computer the cable will limit the transfer speed. For your TV if all the data can't make it there fast enough, it just doesnt work.

And collisions? Um? You don't connect mulitiple network devices on one Cat 5 cable under any normal circumstance. And since send and receive are on seperate wires what exactly is there to collide? Think you bumped your head this morning.

MajorPITA wrote:Also anyone saying that a "high speed" cable at these lengths is going to do you a lick of good is dumb. There is no way a signal with nothing but 1s and 0s is going to degrade at these distances. If you go upwards of 25' now you may need a cable with more shielding...but not less than. Anyway, happy wooting!



Anyone who tells you a high speed MONSTER cable is going to do you a lick of good is dumb. "High speed" is not a marketing gimic in this case. Its the commercial term for 1.3 or 1.4 HDMI cables because they are designed for higher transmission speeds than the original HDMI. Yes. People shouldn't get suckered. You can get a "high speed" cable for a few bucks. Case in point on woot! today.

This is NOT about single loss or corruption. This is about speed, ie the frequency of transmission which are vastly different between 1.2 and 1.3. 1.2 cables were not designed, rated, or tested for the higher frequency, and anyone with a degree in electronics can tell you, changing the frequency has all sorts of fun consequences. Yes, its 'one's and zero's' but its not a square wave and the wire, circuit trace, or path had to be designed to handle the frequency or it just wont work.

We aren't talking about the picture you get looking better. Thats crap. If you get a picture you get it. We are talking about the data making it there.

Bottom line 1.3-1.4 'high speed' HDMI cables are standard and are rated to handle the necessary amout of data. And they are cheap. So is cat5E-cat6. Comparing people who tell you any cable rated for the standard will work and can be had for cheap, to people who tell you a $300 monster cable with gold connectors makes their TV's picture better,their internet faster, and revitalized their sex life. Is just jartavid. And no, that wasn't woots! filter

kmartind


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bobauh2o wrote:As long as you have quality CAT 5 cable with properly terminated rj45's it will work fine between 2 Gigabit devices.


Maybe for some values of "work fine" that involve not getting any decent throughput and/or the devices negotiating down to 100BT or 10BT. Seriously, only a complete id1ot would ever attempt to run GigE over Cat5 for any application where they even remotely care about performance. Everyone knows Cat5e is the minimum, and for longer runs you either want Cat6 or just use fiber.

bobauh2o wrote:
Actually, you could hook barb wire between 2 Gigabit devices as long as the devices have sufficient error correction (seen it done many times at CES.)


Four pairs of any wire may carry a signal a short distance, and yeah that's a fine demonstration of expensive high-end transceivers and hardware but it has little bearing on the reality of running production networks. You could go pretty fast in a Ferrari even if you put bald S-rated tires on it too... For a little while, but why?

bobauh2o wrote:
I guess you are going to tell me that the gold tips make a difference too on a digital interface? Do you work for Monster?


They inhibit corrosion, just like they always have since the days of composite video, etc. So, yes, if you live in a humid environment and/or touch the cables a lot then after a period of time you might have a corrosion problem on connectors that aren't gold plated.
And no, I don't give rip about brand names, but there ARE quality cables and there ARE cheap junky ones. Not all the quality ones are super expensive and not all the junky ones are really cheap, though as a general rule most of the expensive ones tend to be fairly well made because if they weren't then absolutely nobody would bother buying them. I was merely saying you should buy an HDMI cable that is rated "High Speed" which these are.

(and no I don't work for Monster or any other cable manufacturer or reseller)

alcimedes


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Weird, everyone is ripping on these cables for their length, and that's the entire reason I'm buying them.

You want to get rid of the giant rat's nest behind your TV, get the shortest cables that will still work.

If you have a TV sitting on top of an entertainment center, three feet is usually just enough to connect everything together.

You'll have way less clutter, because there's not much slack. Proper length wiring is the first, and more important step to having a clean looking install.

Zip ties and wire sleeves are a distant second in my book.

emceemk


quality posts: 0 Private Messages emceemk

This looks like a good deal, but I'm really looking for a longer cable. And what girl isn't?
Suggestions?

Captain_Steve


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I think I might have some kind of addiction to well priced HDMI cables. I have bought three of every HDMI cable Woot has sold in the last year I think. Last week I got a box of three cables I didn't even remember buying. I thought I was free until today and realized I didn't have have any three foot cables...so I was in for three again. The sad thing is, I only have one device (my TV) that uses HDMI, and it's already hooked to my computers. I either need to seek help or Woot needs to sell more monitors.

murhode


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Not a great deal, but too bad either. I usually buy all my cables from monoprice.

In any case, people have to understand that there is usually quite a difference between what a cable has been certified to do compared to what it actually can do. It is often much less expensive for the manufacture to have a single production line producing cables which are certified at 3 different quality levels. The only actual difference may be that the "better" cables may have actually been tested, and the "lessor" quality ones might not.

dliidlii


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fennellk wrote:$3.99 for two and they're are priced at $26.99 each on their website, seems like a good deal to me.

http://www.memorex.com/en-us/Accessories/Cables/HDMI-Cables/



Your first mistake was relying on that site to determine actual value!Shop around.

remah


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Does anyone know if these will work with a smart phone? I have an HTC EVO that has an HDMI input, but I've heard the standard cables won't fit.