unksol wrote:The Woot cables are 1.4 which allow for 3D, Audio Return Channel, and ethernet.

The amazon specs are pretty vauge, but mention being able to handle 1080p. I would guess they are 1.3.

If you don't need ethernet, ARC, or 3D, or your current cables work don't worry about it. HDMI cables will return to woot or can be bought online.

The Amazon specs do not say 1080p anywhere that I saw. One of the user reviews says they connected a DVD player to their TV at 1080p, but since the standard is lossy, there's no way of knowing mow much of that 1080p signal is consistently getting through.

can i connect from my laptop to tv with this hdmi cable?

matt1976 wrote:Nope, you'd need a mini-HDMI.

And for a Droid X, you need a MICRO HDMI. I got a micro hdmi adapter on ebay for something like $8. I imagine a mini hdmi would be similar.

This cable and an adapter make a nice travel kit to let you hook up your phone when you go to your friends place. Or for when friends visit you. I think most TVs have a front or side hdmi port for quick access.

Are the twist ties copper? I'm sure that will affect signal quality...

kmartind wrote:They inhibit corrosion, just like they always have since the days of composite video, etc. So, yes, if you live in a humid environment and/or touch the cables a lot then after a period of time you might have a corrosion problem on connectors that aren't gold plated.
And no, I don't give rip about brand names, but there ARE quality cables and there ARE cheap junky ones. Not all the quality ones are super expensive and not all the junky ones are really cheap, though as a general rule most of the expensive ones tend to be fairly well made because if they weren't then absolutely nobody would bother buying them. I was merely saying you should buy an HDMI cable that is rated "High Speed" which these are.

(and no I don't work for Monster or any other cable manufacturer or reseller)

So you are comparing analog video to digital video? The reason gold was used in composite video and other such devices was due to better connectivity (less resistance) - NOT corrosion. The layer of gold on all these connectors is so thin that if you live in a humid/high salt content environment it wont make a difference anyway. In HDMI we are talking "1s" and "0s". That cheap gold plating on the connector shell buys you nothing.

jeffiekins wrote:HDMI 1.4 is the next-to-newest. The ONLY thing it doesn't support is 3D @ 1080p 60 Hz. It does support the lower-res versions of 3D.

You can see for yourself on Wikipedia.

And, yes, (someone's gonna ask): it puts the sound and the picture through the same cable; all HDMI cables do.

WRONG! The only HDMI thing (other than distances greater than about 3') that this High-Speed HDMI cable doesn't support is Ethernet over HDMI. Sheesh! It really is not that complicated. Read:

The HDMI Organization announced new rules regarding the naming conventions of HDMI cables with regard to version compliance. Officially, starting with HDMI 1.4 and retroactively applied to all previous versions, cables will not be allowed to be represented in sales, advertising or on the cables themselves by their specific version number designation. Instead, cables will be referred to by their performance characteristics. Official designations will be High Speed with Ethernet (incorporates all the specifications outlined in version 1.4), High Speed (equivalent to version 1.3, category 2), Standard Speed with Ethernet (equivalent to 1.3, category 1 as well as all version prior to 1.3 with the addition of the Ethernet channel). Standard Speed (equivalent to version 1.3, category 1 as well as all versions prior to 1.3 without an Ethernet channel). Please note, that a High Speed cables essentially delivers all the performance enhancements promised by 1.4 except Ethernet. So unless you have a devices that specifically needs Ethernet over HDMI capability, any HDMI 1.3, category 2 cable you purchased previously will not need to be replaced.

kmartind wrote:Maybe for some values of "work fine" that involve not getting any decent throughput and/or the devices negotiating down to 100BT or 10BT. Seriously, only a complete id1ot would ever attempt to run GigE over Cat5 for any application where they even remotely care about performance. Everyone knows Cat5e is the minimum, and for longer runs you either want Cat6 or just use fiber.


(and no I don't work for Monster or any other cable manufacturer or reseller)

The point of the post was not to tell people to use CAT5 over CAT 5E, I was only saying for short distances (remember the Woot Einstein - people were complaining about the cables being short)that it does not make a hill of beans difference. The standard is to get 1Gb performance at 100 Meters. My point was say a 20 foot section of CAT 5 will pass 1Gb traffic with no issue. And yes I have seen 1080P video pass over a CAT 5 cable that was 10' with no issue.

Just bought 3 of the 6' cables during the last wootoff. Already used one to swap out on my media player where I'd previously used it's cheap, flimsy included hdmi cable.

The quality shows, the jacketing is secure and straight, and it fixed a problem I was having where I could only make a connection at either 720p-1080i/60fps, or 1080p/30fps
Now I'm able to get the full 1080p/60fps that the player is rated for, with almost no artifacts, despite living in an area with a lot of rf interferance (nearby airport, multiple military installations, etc)

For my use, performs as well as the $40 monster cable I picked up at the B&M.

alcimedes wrote:Weird, everyone is ripping on these cables for their length, and that's the entire reason I'm buying them.

You want to get rid of the giant rat's nest behind your TV, get the shortest cables that will still work.

If you have a TV sitting on top of an entertainment center, three feet is usually just enough to connect everything together.

You'll have way less clutter, because there's not much slack. Proper length wiring is the first, and more important step to having a clean looking install.

Zip ties and wire sleeves are a distant second in my book.

Not to mention a longer than needed cable will add to signal loss and lower quality sound and picture. I'm in cause they're short as well.

So - I was right - size doesn't matter!!

kmartind wrote:Four pairs of any wire may carry a signal a short distance, and yeah that's a fine demonstration of expensive high-end transceivers and hardware but it has little bearing on the reality of running production networks. You could go pretty fast in a Ferrari even if you put bald S-rated tires on it too... For a little while, but why?

Wow, how often are points lost on you? The thread was about the short distance and quality of the cable. My point was only to demonstrate that you can run a lot over short distances with crummy cables. I was using the barb wire as an example. Again purely theoretical, I was not telling people to use barb wire... Geez!

jcoc321 wrote:shame on you!

They're too small as well... and, yes, that is what she said! ;-P

hhorders wrote:go to monoprice.com

bigger selection; better prices for one with som elength

TRUTH.. $2.34 for 3 footers with less shipping, in any color you want just about. And they support 3D

Specs for typical high speed 3' HDMI cable from monoprice

3ft 28AWG High Speed HDMI Cable w/Ferrite Cores - Black

Specs & Features

Connector Type: HDMI male to HDMI male
Connector Finish: Gold
Length: 3ft
Gauge: 28AWG
# of conductors: 19
Conductor Plating: Tin
Shielding level: Triple
Shielding type: EMI
Ferrite Cores: Yes
HDMI connector Head Measures: 20 x 11 x 37
HMDI Connector Diameter: 8mm
Net Jacket: No
Built-in Equalizer: No
Supported Resolutions: 480i to 4k x 2k

Bandwidth: up to 340 Mhz (10.2 Gbps)

Deep Color: 10-bit, 12-bit, and 3*16-bit (48-bit RGB or YCbCr) color depths. “x.v.Color™”
HDMI Certified: Yes
HDMI Spec: High Speed HDMI
Category 2 Certified: Yes
HDCP Compliant: Yes
CEC Compliant: Yes
ROHS Compliant: Yes
Compatible with all Versions of HDMI: Yes
Supports DVD Audio: Yes
Supports SACD: Yes
Supports TrueHD & DTS-HD: Yes

schmuck18 wrote:Not to mention a longer than needed cable will add to signal loss and lower quality sound and picture. I'm in cause they're short as well.

Yeah if you are using an AV Receiver to power your sound and such, and running everything through it, then 3' is just perfect for connecting things like you HD DirectTV and Blu-Ray player to the receiver. Less of a rats nest behind the receiver that way.

but I'd still get mine from Monoprice. better cables for a low price. if all you are getting is a few cables, the shipping won't be much as they can just send them via mail in a little pouch envelope

smathew6539 wrote:can i connect from my laptop to tv with this hdmi cable?

does your laptop have a standard HDMI output? and will the laptop be within 2-3 feet of the TV (given that these are 3' cables)

If yes to both, then yes it will.

bobauh2o wrote:The layer of gold on all these connectors is so thin that if you live in a humid/high salt content environment it wont make a difference anyway. In HDMI we are talking "1s" and "0s". That cheap gold plating on the connector shell buys you nothing.

IF it was silver, which does corrode (and is also an excellent conductor) then yes the thickness might matter.

OTOH it's not like the salt or humidity is going to 'eat away' the thing layer because it is after all NOT subject to corrosion.

Corrosion is an issue at a connection point, moreso that conductivity, especially given that the overall conductivity of the cable is going to have thousands of times more effect on the signal quality than what you gain from a thin layer on the surface of the contact.

The only time you plate connectors for conductivity benefits at the connection point is when high power (lotsa volts, amps, or both) is involved because it can somewhat compensate for a reduced mating surface if things are not perfectly flat, and when that is the case the SILVER is used because it is a better conductor then copper.

Oh and by the way, the other nail in the 'conductivity' coffin is the minor fact that Copper is a better conductor than gold, go ahead and look it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity#Resistivity_of_various_materials.

The reason to use gold, is that it doesn't corrode, not because it's a better conductor than say copper, but because it's a better conductor than copper-oxide. Metal oxides are generally not very good conductors, in fact, most are dielectrics and hence non-conductors.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Premium-1080p-Gold-HDMI-1-3-Cable-6-FT-HDTV-Blu-ray-/400204129038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2e06630e

$1.79 free shipping

I used to think all digital cables were created equal because, you know, digital! But I was wrong. I tried connecting my TV and Apple TV with multiple cheap HDMI cables, and the signal would go out intermittently. I was sure the problem was my TV. Then on a lark- because I'm crazy like that- I bought the 12' Memorex HDMI cables. Haven't had a problem since. I'm buying these now, because I don't need the extra length of the 12".

alcimedes wrote:Weird, everyone is ripping on these cables for their length, and that's the entire reason I'm buying them.

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Me too, clean and easy and looks neater!!!

fortunately my setup allows for the shorter cable!

looks like a good deal for a small entertainment system in a dorm room or apt. no need to piss in the wind over piece of wire. move along, move along

I don't get why people keep paranoid androiding about these being "too short." If you had any sort of properly-configured home theater system these are perfect to route multiple sources through your receiver, leaving ONE long one to the TV set. n00bs.

hawk0168 wrote:3'??? I'm pretty sure that is next to useless.

Many folks put their cable box and video game console on a shelf just below their standing (non wall mounted) LCD. Three feet is nearly perfect to efficiently and neatly connect the 3.

The HDMI license forbids the use of spec type for marketing.

Taken from trademark and logo guidelines at hdmi.org.

Cable products are not allowed to make any reference to Version 1.4 or 1.4a of the HDMI Specification in any circumstance

I guess I should mention why... The cables only transfer data. They don't care if the devices have 1.3 spec or 1.4 spec features. It's still just 1's and 0's. They transfer exactly the same.

The only differences for cables are:
•Length
•connector type (standard/micro, straight/swivel/etc.)
•ethernet over HDMI (so if you need it get one that supports this)
•standard or high speed: Standard speed is guaranteed up to 1080i (it passed the test for speed needed for it, might do more if lucky). High speed is 1080p or higher (it passed a test at a higher speed)

I guess there are only a few of us who specifically look for cords that are just the right size for stacked components. I wish they made these in 2' versions. I tend to have to make a loop or two even with the 3' version.

Don't people stack there AV equipment anymore or are they located across the room from their receiver?

Great deal, I wooted 2 pair so I can replace the 12 footers (seemed that is all people sell nowadays) with the right size ones! Cheapest price found for these at the local electronics store is $21.

Thanks Woot!

MaimeDaiwarpu wrote:Too short

That's what she said.

bobauh2o wrote:My point was say a 20 foot section of CAT 5 will pass 1Gb traffic with no issue.

And you're still wrong. That's a blatantly false and misleading statement. At best you could claim it "might" pass 1Gb traffic just fine. That's running it way out of spec and it's not worth wasting your time. Neither is deliberately buying non-high speed HDMI cables when you want to run 1080P 3D, especially when decent quality, reasonably priced high speed HDMI cables are plentiful.
Some people just don't know when to quit arguing something they don't understand nearly as well as they think they do...

schmuck18 wrote:Not to mention a longer than needed cable will add to signal loss and lower quality sound and picture. I'm in cause they're short as well.

Not with digital, until you get to significant length. Less than 25 feet, I wouldn't think twice.

cernenus wrote:The reason to use gold, is that it doesn't corrode, not because it's a better conductor than say copper, but because it's a better conductor than copper-oxide.

Exactly. And yet folks like bobauh2o continue with more posts of incorrect information and opinion stated as fact.

bobauh2o wrote:Wow, how often are points lost on you?

As often as said points are wrong.
When I happen to see incorrect or misleading information posted by others I often do my best to correct it when I've got a few minutes, since, (surprisingly enough) I actually understand these types of technologies relatively well and have many years of experience and education to rely on.

Would like to post but never received the product. Still waiting????

A little short in length, but solid picture quality on PS3. Shipping was fast. Great deal.

It's been two weeks and they haven't been picked up by FedX yet...

jnevil wrote:**Shipping Update**

Memorex 3' High Speed HDMI Cable – 2 pack has completely shipped via FEDEX SMART POST. All tracking has already been emailed out. You can also find your tracking number by following this link and use your ORDER NUMBER as the reference number.

FEDEX TRACKING

4 weeks and according to my tracking info FedEx still hasn't picked up yet?