rperkins21903 wrote:Roebeet,
First thanks for all the help I've seen on both this forum and the XDA one, you are awesome.

Second, I notice you suggest not to use the clockworkmod since it breaks the ota updates, and some of us might want to use that to upgrade later. My questions is there a way to partition using the suggested 2048/0 that doesn't use clockworkmod? It seems if I want to do that, and from a lot posts doing that fixes a bevy of issues, I'd have to use clockworkmod.

k000 wrote:Roebeet mine arrived a few mins ago (I am still trying to calm myself down and convince me that it is new not refurb...

Can you please give me your always-clear link. First time flashing gtab, but have done it many times with your PDN ROMs...

There's no structure over in XDA, unfortunately. I am actually just one modder/dev out of many.

My concern however is if the next Viewsonic is 1.2-based (and possibly not compatible with our current mods). If it breaks stuff, I'll post it in General, whenever it's released.

rperkins21903 wrote:Roebeet,
First thanks for all the help I've seen on both this forum and the XDA one, you are awesome.

Second, I notice you suggest not to use the clockworkmod since it breaks the ota updates, and some of us might want to use that to upgrade later. My questions is there a way to partition using the suggested 2048/0 that doesn't use clockworkmod? It seems if I want to do that, and from a lot posts doing that fixes a bevy of issues, I'd have to use clockworkmod.

Clockworkmod is kind of a one-way street. Once you mod the device, you've basically put your firmware updates into the hands of the devs/modders in XDA. That's not a bad thing, but you just have to keep that in mind - we are usually pretty fast in ripping apart new stock ROMs and added them to our mods.

If you want to stick with stock, however, you can also manually install new ROMs. We post them also, when the released updates show up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000


BTW TO ALL WOOT USERS HERE. I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the questions, right now. If I miss a question, it's not because I'm ignoring you - I'm trying to toggle this, XDA and my day job and I'm finding it challenging. Quite frankly, there's just too many of you.

If you have an XDA account, you might want to post your questions there, as well. That way, another XDA power user can respond back, if I don't see it.

Got mine today in CT!

3.71 pounds and brand new!

WOOT

supernaturlbeing wrote:Eh for $150 more than the g-tab I don't think I'm sold yet, I would need to read some reviews, haven't had good luck with Asus laptop/netbook products, I only go with them for internal components.

The G-tab was $300 at Woot(Much closer to $400 at other retailers) and the Asus tab is $400. Where do you get $150 difference from? Honestly, if this thing comes out in the next few weeks, look for my GTab on Ebay. It will be the Brand New never used one as I am waiting for a replacement from Viewsonic.

patricksommer wrote:now i have buyers remorse

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/asus-eee-pad-transformer-shows-up-at-best-buy-for-400/

$400.....honeycomb....better display....sheesh.

I don't think woot would even take mine back now that its been rooted.

Woot! First time poster.

I agree that ASUS is pretty awesome. But honestly, I believe we are in the midst of genesis with tablets. We could wait for the launch of the ASUS Transformer, but I'll guarantee that there will be an even better tablet coming out in the next three weeks. Terrible screen or not I can't wait for my Gtablet as it will easily hold me over for at least a year. At that point we'll have tablets that'll make the transformer look like paperweight. That's life for ya.

Mine is out for delivery. I'm gonna skip the gym today afterwork and play with my new toy instead.

I was kinda hoping I would get lucky and it would've come in a day early, since when I got to work yesterday there was a power outage and we were sent home. My free day would've been nicely topped off with my gtab. Oh well, I'll make up for it today.

Got mine yesterday but didn't check it out till this morning. It came perfectly new, everything about it shiny and clean. I like it as is really, other than the market place. I can hack around and mod if I want, I am an I.T. guy, but I do not like doing I.T. like things on my off hours. There is no way to get the marketplace on the stock ROM? There is no way to get it installed without jumping through hoops? I installed the ClockWorkMod, there is no way to get the Marketplace installed via the clockwork mod or did I miss something in the 50+ pages here?

Also, can we use something bigger than a 16gb MicroSD?

crimsondrac wrote:The G-tab was $300 at Woot(Much closer to $400 at other retailers) and the Asus tab is $400. Where do you get $150 difference from? Honestly, if this thing comes out in the next few weeks, look for my GTab on Ebay. It will be the Brand New never used one as I am waiting for a replacement from Viewsonic.

Depends on where you live I suppose.

For me, the Gtab is $285.00 The Asus would be $400 + 7.5% tax = $430.00. So, a difference of $145.00.

Even if the ASUS comes out next week, the GTAB is a well established product with a lot of development. and it's $100 cheaper, which is nothing to sneeze at. At $285, I personally think the GTAB is still a good deal.

The ASUS is going to have HC, an IPS screen an 1GB of RAM - so those are all improvements over the GTAB (especially the screen). But I bet their HC iteration will be buggy, because the Xooms is right now. It will take some time to stabilize, I bet. And we have no idea how "open" it will be - HC has been difficult to deal with so far because Google hasn't released the AOSP yet. There are things on the GTAB right now that you can't use on the Xoom, like the microSD card. And even using a USB thumb drive is built into the GTAB vs needing a hack and a OTG cable for the Xoom. The ASUS might have bugs we don't even know about yet (or it could be fantastic, who knows?).

In 2 or 3 months, the GTAB will definitely look a bit ancient, mainly due to the 1024x600 screen. But right now, TODAY, its a good deal. In electronics, there is always something better coming along. You can't escape that.

gooberedup wrote:Depends on where you live I suppose.

For me, the Gtab is $285.00 The Asus would be $400 + 7.5% tax = $430.00. So, a difference of $145.00.

That is where I get the $150 number from you can't forget about tax. $150 is a 50%+ increase in price from $285 so that's a big deal.

Oh and by the way, I have a website that just so happens to be flash for my photography. DANG DOES IT LOOK NICE ON THIS THING!! Flash on a tablet? Apple, why you hatin flash and all the photographers that use it! Thank you Android!

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roebeet wrote:Even if the ASUS comes out next week, the GTAB is a well established product with a lot of development. and it's $100 cheaper, which is nothing to sneeze at. At $285, I personally think the GTAB is still a good deal.

The ASUS is going to have HC, an IPS screen an 1GB of RAM - so those are all improvements over the GTAB (especially the screen). But I bet their HC iteration will be buggy, because the Xooms is right now. It will take some time to stabilize, I bet. And we have no idea how "open" it will be - HC has been difficult to deal with so far because Google hasn't released the AOSP yet. There are things on the GTAB right now that you can't use on the Xoom, like the microSD card. And even using a USB thumb drive is built into the GTAB vs needing a hack and a OTG cable for the Xoom. The ASUS might have bugs we don't even know about yet (or it could be fantastic, who knows?).

In 2 or 3 months, the GTAB will definitely look a bit ancient, mainly due to the 1024x600 screen. But right now, TODAY, its a good deal. In electronics, there is always something better coming along. You can't escape that.

Good point....such is life when your a gadget nerd.

This Summer is going to be a tablet war with ipad2, hp touchpad, playbook, a slew of android tablets.....

At some point you have to just stop shopping and enjoy what you have.

I did use CWM so i guess there is no going back to stock to return (does woot even take buyers remorse returns?)

majaco wrote:Still confused by this. Where would our devices be the day before they ship?



This was one of the links in browser history from March 27:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIgJYGOBj-I

Exactly - what the heck is going on ? Can someone from W00t team please clarify ?

I am not rooting/modding until I am satisfied that is was actually brand new.

roebeet wrote:Even if the ASUS comes out next week, the GTAB is a well established product with a lot of development. and it's $100 cheaper, which is nothing to sneeze at. At $285, I personally think the GTAB is still a good deal.

The ASUS is going to have HC, an IPS screen an 1GB of RAM - so those are all improvements over the GTAB (especially the screen). But I bet their HC iteration will be buggy, because the Xooms is right now. It will take some time to stabilize, I bet. And we have no idea how "open" it will be - HC has been difficult to deal with so far because Google hasn't released the AOSP yet. There are things on the GTAB right now that you can't use on the Xoom, like the microSD card. And even using a USB thumb drive is built into the GTAB vs needing a hack and a OTG cable for the Xoom. The ASUS might have bugs we don't even know about yet (or it could be fantastic, who knows?).

In 2 or 3 months, the GTAB will definitely look a bit ancient, mainly due to the 1024x600 screen. But right now, TODAY, its a good deal. In electronics, there is always something better coming along. You can't escape that.

Also the Asus one may be heavier. 2.2lbs ?

dudedevon wrote:Woot! First time poster.

I agree that ASUS is pretty awesome. But honestly, I believe we are in the midst of genesis with tablets. We could wait for the launch of the ASUS Transformer, but I'll guarantee that there will be an even better tablet coming out in the next three weeks. Terrible screen or not I can't wait for my Gtablet as it will easily hold me over for at least a year. At that point we'll have tablets that'll make the transformer look like paperweight. That's life for ya.

That is extremely flawed logic. Waiting for something new to get established will leave you always waiting. New stuff comes out every day. There will always be something new and exciting right around the corner and waiting around for it, well, I hope you enjoy waiting.

bdykes wrote:Got mine yesterday but didn't check it out till this morning. It came perfectly new, everything about it shiny and clean. I like it as is really, other than the market place. I can hack around and mod if I want, I am an I.T. guy, but I do not like doing I.T. like things on my off hours. There is no way to get the marketplace on the stock ROM? There is no way to get it installed without jumping through hoops? I installed the ClockWorkMod, there is no way to get the Marketplace installed via the clockwork mod or did I miss something in the 50+ pages here?

Also, can we use something bigger than a 16gb MicroSD?

I'm with you. I actually like the tablet as is (no rooting as of yet). But the G-Market sucks hard (and not in a good way). I've learn to by pass it altogether by using the website:
http://www.freewarelovers.com/android

And I pulled the amazon appstore.apk from my phone (since you don't get that in Android market anyway), and installed it on my tab. Amazon Appstore for Android carries the much of the same stuff as Android Market. And if you already bought stuff there, it stays there (in the cloud), thus I could install Angry Birds Rio on my G-Tab with no problems. It doesn't have everything that Android Market has but it's pretty darn close.

According to the Viewsonic page you can put a microSD card up to 32Gb if you want.

patricksommer wrote:now i have buyers remorse

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/asus-eee-pad-transformer-shows-up-at-best-buy-for-400/

$400.....honeycomb....better display....sheesh.

I don't think woot would even take mine back now that its been rooted.

This looks cool also from Asus..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0M5WC8IaTg

crimsondrac wrote:That is extremely flawed logic. Waiting for something new to get established will leave you always waiting. New stuff comes out every day. There will always be something new and exciting right around the corner and waiting around for it, well, I hope you enjoy waiting.

I think you're both arguing the same POV.

crimsondrac wrote:That is extremely flawed logic. Waiting for something new to get established will leave you always waiting. New stuff comes out every day. There will always be something new and exciting right around the corner and waiting around for it, well, I hope you enjoy waiting.

It's also a fantastic method for saving money.

cracksbacks wrote:POOP! It is cold and rainy outside and now my G-Tab is sitting in a cardboard woot box surrounded by bags of texas air on my front steps.

Again...I #blameshift

I may just take the hour off to drive back and forth in order to pick it up.

FYI, FedEx put mine in a plastic bag and left it on my doorstep. If they had wiated at the door for 3 seconds, they could've saved the bag.

My GTab just arrived. It was a 4.1 lb ship. Opened and everything is brand new. Not a scratch or fingerprint on it. Going to fully charge it and try it out before I root it.
I got a droid 1 rooted with cm7 2.3.3 nightly's so this gtab shouldn't be a problem for me.

Thanks Woot for the great deal!!

crimsondrac wrote:That is extremely flawed logic. Waiting for something new to get established will leave you always waiting. New stuff comes out every day. There will always be something new and exciting right around the corner and waiting around for it, well, I hope you enjoy waiting.

....lol think you should actually read what I'm saying...I'm agreeing with you...actually your agreeing with me. HA!

taperbweed wrote:My GTab just arrived. It was a 4.1 lb ship. Opened and everything is brand new. Not a scratch or fingerprint on it. Going to fully charge it and try it out before I root it.
I got a droid 1 rooted with cm7 2.3.3 nightly's so this gtab shouldn't be a problem for me.

Thanks Woot for the great deal!!

Good deal! Mine got delivered at home about an hour ago. I'm champing at the bit to go home and get it. I'm a little concerned, but it's a 4.1 lb ship as well, so I'm hopeful that it'll be new also.

Got it!!!

I literally ran into the delivery guy as I left for work this morning! So I've plugged it in to charge it at work, but I haven't turned it on yet. You have no idea how much control that takes after waiting for it all of this time. Or maybe you do. Anyway, when I turn my new Gtab for the first time, is it going to make some musical noise or TADA like Windows does? I'm in the office, and I don't want my new toy to attract too much attention ... Yet. Thanks

luvduchovny wrote:I'm with you. I actually like the tablet as is (no rooting as of yet). But the G-Market sucks hard (and not in a good way). I've learn to by pass it altogether by using the website:
http://www.freewarelovers.com/android

And I pulled the amazon appstore.apk from my phone (since you don't get that in Android market anyway), and installed it on my tab. Amazon Appstore for Android carries the much of the same stuff as Android Market. And if you already bought stuff there, it stays there (in the cloud), thus I could install Angry Birds Rio on my G-Tab with no problems. It doesn't have everything that Android Market has but it's pretty darn close.

According to the Viewsonic page you can put a microSD card up to 32Gb if you want.

I have a 32GB Sandisk microSD and I can confirm that it works on the GTAB.

After two hours of charging, waiting for the green light I finally just turned it on. Battery was at 98%.

I agree with others that the screen tilted up or down is pretty crummy. Left and right seems fine to me. I'd have no issue sharing a movie with someone on it.

I hit something that brought me to the Dashboard Home page. Now I've got to Google to figure out how to get back to the "Classic" page.

Edit: Duh. There's an icon for it under "more".

Got mine - brand spankin' new - thanks Woot!

Most important question of the day....How long does this bad boy take to charge? It's just sitting next to me and forcing me to do work around the house until that light changes to the magical green...Anyone have an ETA?

Just received mine, a 3.7 pound brand-new baby boy with black hair and a big toothless grin. Now I'm just letting him sleep (charge) until I smack his ass to get him going. I was trying to think of a funny analogy for rooting and installing a different ROM by I'm having a brain-fart... Woot!

Well its been over a week now and I am still waiting for mine. FedEX shows there was a shipping exception because the barcode was "unreadable". It should be delivered tomorrow, but I wont hold my breath.

I have enjoyed keeping up on the posts from everyone who has theirs and cant wait for mine.

@roebeet

Saw a comment you made over on XDA about opening your G-Tablet and the speakers never sounding the same. I am wondering how extensive a tear down you did? I bought one for my wife and there is a small flake of dust or ash trapped between the glass and the LCD. In your tear down, could you tell if the glass was bonded to the LCD? If not can you share some tips about the disassembly process?

Thanks

I want to get this resolved before destroying the warranty by installing your awesome rom!

roebeet wrote:Clockworkmod is kind of a one-way street. Once you mod the device, you've basically put your firmware updates into the hands of the devs/modders in XDA. That's not a bad thing, but you just have to keep that in mind - we are usually pretty fast in ripping apart new stock ROMs and added them to our mods.

If you want to stick with stock, however, you can also manually install new ROMs. We post them also, when the released updates show up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000


BTW TO ALL WOOT USERS HERE. I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the questions, right now. If I miss a question, it's not because I'm ignoring you - I'm trying to toggle this, XDA and my day job and I'm finding it challenging. Quite frankly, there's just too many of you.

If you have an XDA account, you might want to post your questions there, as well. That way, another XDA power user can respond back, if I don't see it.

@Roebeet - so is it straight fwd to flash back to Stock ? Would it void warranty/return ;) ?

I got mine today, its awesome! Only issue I'm having, I'm running VEGAn, I did the market fix, and MOST apps show up fine (titanium was there, etc) but a few are still missing, namely Dolphin Browswer and IMDB.

Anyone know what I did wrong?

luvduchovny wrote:
According to the Viewsonic page you can put a microSD card up to 32Gb if you want.

According to the G-Tab user manual (downloaded from the Woot blog) you can put up to a 64GB microSD card in it. I have not confirmed it, but I'm hoping. It also says the internal memory (normally 16GB) can be up to 32GB, but I have no idea how.

mlong421 wrote:@roebeet

Saw a comment you made over on XDA about opening your G-Tablet and the speakers never sounding the same. I am wondering how extensive a tear down you did? I bought one for my wife and there is a small flake of dust or ash trapped between the glass and the LCD. In your tear down, could you tell if the glass was bonded to the LCD? If not can you share some tips about the disassembly process?

Thanks

I want to get this resolved before destroying the warranty by installing your awesome rom!

Someone on XDA had a teardown, but very quickly: You obviously will void your warranty.

You'd need to take off the rubber feet in the back, and that exposes 4 screws. Take those off. Then use an iPod plastic pryer to pry open the device, right at that middle split (there are clamps holding it together, so its tricky). You need to take the entire system board out to get to the LCD, and if that speck is between the LCD and the front screen, you might be able to get to it.

Be careful putting it back together, document everything. The speaker wire seems a bit flimsy and you have to make sure the clamps don't touch them when you put it back together. It's a little tricky.

k000 wrote:@Roebeet - so is it straight fwd to flash back to Stock ? Would it void warranty/return ;) ?

I think its straightforward- use clockworkmod to flash a stock ROM, and you'll have stock. Mods probably void the warranty, but if you needed to RMA something I would just flash it back to stock first to cover your butt.

roberttatefan wrote:Ugh....So much less excited knowing I'm on the back half of deliveries...Seems those units are having more problems.

Delivery is scheduled for tomorrow...We will see...I can deal with used, but dead pixels/non-responsive screen is unacceptable.

I agree 100%. I haven't received mine yet, maybe tomorrow, but I'm thinking about not even opening it and returning it...if that's possible. Can I do that?

I just don't get it. Especially on a "NEW" product, and so many people getting used devices with smudges and scratches.

I'm losing a lot of confidence in woot.

I'm not sure I will ever buy again, and I haven't received my product yet.

I don't care if I get a brand new one that works great...it's not fair to the people that get defective ones, and woot seems to have a reputation for this.

This is why I have not bought a TV from them.

It's stuff like this that makes me think it's worth spending the extra 100, 200, or even 300 dollars on more reliable merchandise and not having to wait a while to receive your product or have to send it back.

I'd be at the casino if I wanted to gamble.

Woot is getting shady, or maybe they have always been shady...

Ok, mine was just delivered here in NJ. Everything appears to be brand new. How long does it take to fully charge the tablet?

I found the screen to be very unresponsive. for example touching the app drawer button does nothing unless you hold it for several seconds, then it displays the hone screen previews. sometimes it will open the app drawer, but seldom. I think I have a defective device. I have contacted customer service to return.

roberttatefan wrote:Got mine - brand spankin' new - thanks Woot!

Most important question of the day....How long does this bad boy take to charge? It's just sitting next to me and forcing me to do work around the house until that light changes to the magical green...Anyone have an ETA?

Give it two hours, then turn it on even if the light hasn't changed.

So FedEx somehow put my billing zip on the shipping address, so they can't deliver today. If I'm lucky, tomorrow. But right now, it's saying April 2...and the office is closed on Saturday, so, April 4. Grrr.

mosesaliba wrote:I found the screen to be very unresponsive. for example touching the app drawer button does nothing unless you hold it for several seconds, then it displays the hone screen previews. sometimes it will open the app drawer, but seldom. I think I have a defective device. I have contacted customer service to return.

You should do a reset/recalibration like was posted above. Maybe that would take care of the issue.

The following quoted post might shed some light on your issue:

bbjorklu wrote:I'm cracking up at the email I got this morning from Woot. I had an unresponsive touchscreen I fixed by putting an empty calibration.ini file on a micro-SD card and rebooting, so I need to cancel yesterday's email to Woot about my tablet not working.

The phone number I was emailed this morning to call if I needed to cancel the RMA: 123-456-7890

I get the feeling the Woot people are working as fast as possible to fix this.

mosesaliba wrote:I found the screen to be very unresponsive. for example touching the app drawer button does nothing unless you hold it for several seconds, then it displays the hone screen previews. sometimes it will open the app drawer, but seldom. I think I have a defective device. I have contacted customer service to return.