tljx wrote:Considering PS3 games display at a refresh rate or 60 frames per second or lower, I very much doubt that. The picture likely appeared smoother on 120hz and 240hz because of the manufacturer's interpolation software. Whether this looks "better" is up for debate. Many people, myself included, don't care for the artificial smoothing features as it tends to make movement look unnatural. Some prefer it, some don't.

However, when watching movies and/or television that refreshes at a rate of 24 frames per second, 120Hz is preferable because of the fact that it is evenly divisible by 24 and therefore prevent what they call "jutter," which is caused by 60Hz units alternating between displaying a frame 2 and 3 times in a row. As for 240Hz and higher, it's pretty much a useless marketing gimmick.

Hey man. I was just comparing $499, $799 and $1499 with what I will be using it for. The goal replay on the 60Hz (Insignia I believe) would have the ball jumping and skipping all over the place. I am nowhere near as knowledgable as you. I am just trying to help and report what I saw :-).

eldiablohijo wrote:That's what she said.

You beat me to the punchline, but since I'm a girl...that IS what I said ;)

kippyj wrote:Oh, come on...don't lie to the noobs...it has always been roughly every six weeks or so...not the last Tuesday of the month. Plus, Christmas Eve, April Fool's Day, and w00t's birthday. Occasionally probably other holidays, but who can keep track of them all, anyway?

hey kippyj, that leftover pizza was delicious. sorry you missed it!

ghostofdavid wrote:What's a tv?

Something you stream old episodes of Emergency! on via Netflix. Good times!

zilzilwat wrote:hey kippyj, that leftover pizza was delicious. sorry you missed it!

Oh, shut up! I've heard enough about the pizza!

Torturer!

kippyj wrote:You beat me to the punchline, but since I'm a girl...that IS what I said ;)

It is what 'she' said b/c I am a girl, too... yeah... sad but I was thinking the line as I was writing the comment, wondering how long it would take someone to say it.

kippyj wrote:Oh, shut up! I've heard enough about the pizza!

Torturer!

you just wait...

I am really considering the TV, but is 60Hz enough? I just looked up my plasma, because I didn't remember what it's refresh rate was, and it is listed at 600Hz.

procol33 wrote:how do you get the price of a previous day's woot??

Sometimes people post it in the comments, I suggest looking there first. GL

Woot-off checker question - is anyone but me having a problem with mywoot.net? The kids checker is working fine, but the regular site's one doesn't have the countdown....

slightlyslapdash wrote:It is what 'she' said b/c I am a girl, too... yeah... sad but I was thinking the line as I was writing the comment, wondering how long it would take someone to say it.

bwahahahaha!

[quote postid="4551294" user="squarerootofpi"]
As a Floridian, it saddens me to think there are people who will never get to experience this.quote]

Being originally from the Philippines, I have always been around the ocean. I grew up by the sea. It has a certain energy the one can feed off. To me, being aroung the ocean was normal.

It wasn't until I moved to Cincinnati that I met some people who have never seen the ocean, or a body of water larger than a lake. They have absolutely no grasp of what I'm talking about, not can they even visualize how big an ocean is. The only way they can think of it is, "it's like a big lake".

It's like trying to explain to someone who's been blind all their life, the color blue. No matter how hard you try, you can't.

I wouldn't consider this as a main living room television since it is only 60hz, say what you will, but a quality 120hz display is simply superior to anything 60hz. Facts are facts, if you can't tell the difference, it is because of your eyes, not the displays.

I also wouldn't even think of using this as a PC display as it is big, the resolution is far too small and not nearly enough pixel density for everyday PC use, unless all you do is game, and even then, a quality LED monitor would destroy it in every category.

ginormous76 wrote:I am really considering the TV, but is 60Hz enough? I just looked up my plasma, because I didn't remember what it's refresh rate was, and it is listed at 600Hz.

Don't compared plasma hz to lcd hz. Completely different animals. Read the comments above about 60 hz versus 120 hz, but 60 should be fine, especially for the price. Mostly people wouldn't even notice the difference and some people actual prefer 60 hz as the smoothing with 120 can cause things to look artificial. Don't listen to the guy talking about skipping with 60 hz when testing at the store. I believe he is trying to be helpful, but he is misleading people. Whatever skipping issue he encountered wasn't due to the hz, but probably the fact that insignias are pretty crappy.

co2castro wrote:[quote postid="4551294" user="squarerootofpi"]
As a Floridian, it saddens me to think there are people who will never get to experience this.quote]

Being originally from the Philippines, I have always been around the ocean. I grew up by the sea. It has a certain energy the one can feed off. To me, being aroung the ocean was normal.

It wasn't until I moved to Cincinnati that I met some people who have never seen the ocean, or a body of water larger than a lake. They have absolutely no grasp of what I'm talking about, not can they even visualize how big an ocean is. The only way they can think of it is, "it's like a big lake".

It's like trying to explain to someone who's been blind all their life, the color blue. No matter how hard you try, you can't.

As a Floridian, I know what you mean. I've met very few people who haven't seen the ocean, and it always amazes me...

One of my favorite childhood memories was going to the beach in the winter after school and walking along the shoreline with my mom and brother.

Hey! I just realized...in France, it's Independence Day, which means it's my cat's 12th birthday! Happy Birthday, Cat! Imported tuna packed in olive oil for you!

Vivre le chat noir!

ITS CHEAPER ON EBAY ON AMAZON AND MANY SITES

kaspann wrote:Hey man. I was just comparing $499, $799 and $1499 with what I will be using it for. The goal replay on the 60Hz (Insignia I believe) would have the ball jumping and skipping all over the place. I am nowhere near as knowledgable as you. I am just trying to help and report what I saw :-).

Insignia is BestBuy's no-frills house brand so it generally lacks the picture enhancing circuitry of better brands. The jumping and skipping you saw may have more to do with processing power and enhancements than refresh rate. Even the LCD panels makes a difference. BTW, I appreciate your honesty, humility and first-person reporting.

shlomoiluz wrote:ITS CHEAPER ON EBAY ON AMAZON AND MANY SITES

Links?

For example, here's a link to a place where you can get a replacement keyboard. Yours appears to be stuck in caps lock.

auburnfootball wrote:Something you stream old episodes of Emergency! on via Netflix. Good times!

For those who don't cancel Netflix

pterbd wrote:We have had ours for a couple of weeks. LOVE IT! Even though it is 60hz it is great for normal tv watching. we also have it hooked up to a Wii and it is great for that. At $370 it is awesome. However, the volume responds slowly...I mean it takes a while to turn up and down. No AV inputs. If you use a Wii you have to get a componenet adapter cord set. there are 2 component and 3 HDMI. Customer service e-mails are answered quickly, I have never tried to phone. And you must use the autoset feature for universal remotes becasue it will not identify Silo (I even asked them for the codes and they responded to me with emailed insturctions on how to use auto set.

Enjoy, they are going quickly! Oh, last time this was up a couple of people said theirs came with a broken screen. Mine came with a pretty roughed up box but TV was A-ok.

It has a composite video in and L/R audio in, isnt that what you need for AV input?

I must be a rich film producer baller.
I see empty-beach sunrises all the time.

Poor, poor Texans...

kaltheo wrote:Low? That's what most LCD monitors run at and I challenge you to find flicker... Thinking I may need a 42" monitor. Hmmm.

Too many people confuse "Flicker" with "Motion Blurr". They are 2 completely different inherent LCD TV issues, but people think motion blurr is from a 60hz refresh rate. Wrong!

Bwana wrote:I wouldn't settle for anything less than 120mhz.

Um, that's really, really slow. 120 millihertz refreshes at once every 8.33 seconds.

I'll take my 60 Hz (60 times a second) tv any day over that!

If someone could just do us all a favor and buy the remaining 50 TV's.....that'd be gggrrreeeaaaatttttt.

rhmurphy wrote:Links?

For example, here's a link to a place where you can get a replacement keyboard. Yours appears to be stuck in caps lock.

THAT should be a quality post!

ginormous76 wrote:I am really considering the TV, but is 60Hz enough? I just looked up my plasma, because I didn't remember what it's refresh rate was, and it is listed at 600Hz.

You really can't compare an LCD TV with plasma or CRT. For example, neither plasma or CRT (yes, I have a first generation CRT HDTV!) are prone to the ghosting that LCD is famous for. And they also have much higher contrast ratios. LCDs lag because they create images by MECHANICALLY moving crystals suspended in a gelatinous liquid (LCD = Liquid Crystal Display). Plasma and CRT displays have no moving parts. A plasma cell is turned on and off like a lightbulb. Likewise for the phosphor pixels of a CRT. But none of this answers your question; they only mean to show you why you can compare refresh rates for the two technologies.

Generally speaking, 60hz is enough if you don't watch a lot of fast action scenes (i.e. sports, action-chase movies, fast video games) or use 3D technology requiring shutter glasses. I watch dramas. documentaries and the news so 60hzis just fine for me.

eldiablohijo wrote:For those who don't cancel Netflix

Yeah, I got my email yesterday. However, they're still the biggest fish in the pond for now, and it's gonna' cost three more dollars a month. I'm sitting back and waiting to see who comes out on top before I make a switch.

Drapheus wrote:If someone could just do us all a favor and buy the remaining 50 TV's.....that'd be gggrrreeeaaaatttttt.

I did my part. For better or worse I'm in for one of these puppies. Even if I just get a year out of it, I'm still ahead of the game. No sales tax and $5 shipping, beat that Walmart!!

kaspann wrote:Went to Best Buy to purchase a new TV. Had them hook up a 60Hz, 120Hz and 240Hz to a PS3. Played FIFA 2011 as well as CoD and surely saw lag on the 60Hz. Very little on the 120Hz (LG uses proprietary technology) and none on the 240Hz. I couldn't afford the 240Hz so I got the 120Hz LG. Love it. Just my $0.02.

Refresh rate on most LCDs is really a moot (woot?) point. It's not a CRT. While you won't be pulling 3D on a 60Hz screen, it doesn't mean it's problematic for viewing. I have an older Sharp Aquos that's 60Hz with a 6ms pixel response time. I watch Blu-ray movies, play games on the 360 and PS3 and have zero ghosting or lag. It's 2011, not 1991 - pixel response is where it's at!

Amazon has them for $529 new and $380 refurbished. http://goo.gl/HW3mL
Ebay has it for $360 but it's refurbished http://cgi.ebay.com/SILO-42-http://goo.gl/5H0JU.

If anyone wants to check

slightlyslapdash wrote:Good morning wootOffers!

Yeah, I would be all over this if it were about 5" bigger. *sigh*

That's what she said!

spoonyspork wrote:This. Sunrise on an empty beach is one of my 'poor kid' self's fondest memories. People (especially tourists) tend to be really lazy and not get up early enough for sunrise - the beaches near me are usually empty until an hour or two afterward.

Hrm, don't need another TV, but woot just told me what I'm doing this weekend!

Tampa here, beaches = win

kippyj wrote:Yeah, I got my email yesterday. However, they're still the biggest fish in the pond for now, and it's gonna' cost three more dollars a month. I'm sitting back and waiting to see who comes out on top before I make a switch.

I was already on instant streaming only so it doesn't really effect me at all. I may still cancel though, not because of the price hike but because I barely use the service as it is.

Where is the wootoff song?

OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG! I believe that I am becoming a Wootaholic! So much Woot, so little money...

nmbwr wrote:OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG! I believe that I am becoming a Wootaholic! So much Woot, so little money...

The first step in curing addiction is admitting your have a problem.

Ezpcconcepts wrote:Yes it is.. but is it any good.. anyone have one of these? Could use this for an upgrade for my xbox...

I bought this exact TV during the last wootoff (a month ago). The sound for the auxility doesn't work at all & the sound for the HDMI goes out sometimes. I contacted Silo & they told me to contact woot, who told me to contact NVIS. what a pain! guess i'll be buying some surround sound speakers soon

Okay, here's one for y'all.

I took this picture on July 4th in Curacao on Cas Abao beach at sunset.