sdc100 wrote:According to reports, the Asus Tranformer runs on an "NVIDIA Tegra 2.1.0GHz dual core CPU."

I think it's a typo that went viral. Instead of stating "Tegra 2 1.0Ghz," many reports put a period between the "2" and "1.0" making it look like "2.1"

In other words, it should be "Tegra 2" and "1.0Ghz" with no connection between the two.

http://gadgetmania.com/2011/04/asus-eee-pad-transformer-coming-to-us-markets-on-april-26/

You are correct on the power rating, some writers transpose numbers or otherwise write then incorrectly.

My ASUS Transformer is a dual-core 1000 (or 1.0 MHz) machine.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Asus-Eee-Pad-Transformer_id5198

Bonus Comment: I buy machines where the company has a reputation for updating the OS. Some companies are great, others not a all. Updates are especially important when it comes to Android, an OS that can make you feel outdated a month after you spend $400 to $500 for a tablet because there's so many versions and fixes coming out.

My Transformer, that's about a month old now, has had three updates and one upgrade, to where it now has Honeycomb 3.2

IMO ASUS understands the importance of providing OTA updates (over the air, meaning on the device) to purchasers of its expensive products (with the "netbook dock" I paid $650 for the tablet. With tax $700).

It's also my opinion that when buying a device most people don't take into consideration the company's reputation for providing updates and upgrades. They should.

It's okay, but this offer is NOT 3 or 4g. You're stuck with a lighter but less useful laptop.

Yikes!! Too bad BestBuy is supposed to have this same one on sale for 299 next week =/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/05/hp-touchpad-now-200-off-at-staples-its-like-christmas-in-au/

ivanivanovich wrote:Of course, you can root ... excuse me ... jailbreak ;-) your iPad and use online stores other than Apple's.

-- Ed

It's nice knowing that all my Android apps are found in one place giving me the choice of weather or not to censor/install it.

Plus, I don't have to root my Android device to install apps that aren't on the market... I merely have to check a box to allow non-market apps to be installed.

Will this play nice with my Mac? For instance loading it with media, would it be just a simple drag and drop or what?

roybotnik wrote:What the hell do you need so many apps for? You realize that most people just get on their computer and fire up a web browser? I am getting so sick of hearing this 'lack of apps' drivel coming from nerds. I have an iPad and I just bought one of these and could NOT CARE LESS ABOUT THE LACK OF APPS. I have purchased hundreds of dollars of 'apps' on my iPad and I might get a few moments of enjoyment out of them but for the most part they are just a waste of money. Probably 90% of these 'apps' are just fancied up front-ends to the same exact data you can access via the web. APPS ARE OVERRATED.

I want a touchpad because I want webOS. I wouldn't touch any Galaxy Tab or RIM garbage with a 10 foot pole. They have some of the worst interfaces in the history of personal computing. Not to mention how ridiculously buggy and terrible the software is. I don't get where this obsession with 'features' and 'apps selection' has come from, but it's repulsive and doesn't have anything to do with what average users actually want. It's unfortunate that some people actually get sucked into it and start to believe that it matters.

Wow, take a deep breath... Just because Apps are not your cup of tea, there are others that can't get through a day with certain essential apps that help them do their job or get through some other situation that life throws at you. We get it, you don't like apps... don't knock someone else because they do like apps and loads of 'em.

roybotnik wrote:What the hell do you need so many apps for? You realize that most people just get on their computer and fire up a web browser? I am getting so sick of hearing this 'lack of apps' drivel coming from nerds. I have an iPad and I just bought one of these and could NOT CARE LESS ABOUT THE LACK OF APPS. I have purchased hundreds of dollars of 'apps' on my iPad and I might get a few moments of enjoyment out of them but for the most part they are just a waste of money. Probably 90% of these 'apps' are just fancied up front-ends to the same exact data you can access via the web. APPS ARE OVERRATED.

I want a touchpad because I want webOS. I wouldn't touch any Galaxy Tab or RIM garbage with a 10 foot pole. They have some of the worst interfaces in the history of personal computing. Not to mention how ridiculously buggy and terrible the software is. I don't get where this obsession with 'features' and 'apps selection' has come from, but it's repulsive and doesn't have anything to do with what average users actually want. It's unfortunate that some people actually get sucked into it and start to believe that it matters.

I agree about the apps, but unfortunately the Touchpad browser needs a lot work. There's a huge list of sites it has problems either loading or rendering.
http://forums.palm.com/t5/HP-TouchPad-Software-Hardware/A-list-of-websites-the-TouchPad-Browser-can-t-handle-correctly/td-p/344432. That's really the one thing I hate about it. I'm confident it will be fixed and/or other browsers will be ported eventually as HP will be including WebOS on all their computers but it can be frustrating.

If you buy one, you'll find it to be sluggish out of the box. Things will hang and there will be errors. It takes a few days for everything to sync up with HP's servers. I leave mine on all the time (sleep mode) and just turn the wireless on and off.

I bought mine after looking at various tablets. If there's a simpler, more intuitive and functional GUI, I haven't seen it. The android tablets and ipad seem like big phones with multitasking added as an afterthought.

narquespamley wrote:Computer engineer (really) here.

Hahahahaha! Thanks for the reply!

narquespamley wrote:So yes, air in the atmosphere does get colder as you go higher up. However, that's only a concern if you're skydiving, or maybe if you have a habit of opening the window on your airplane for some fresh air.

Oh, au contraire! It's also a concern if - and this is a true story - you want to be a smart@$$ about captions on post cards.

I have a photo post card from the late 1920s or early 1930s showing cars parked at the summit of Pikes Peak, all with their hoods up. The caption says something about a hot day on the mountain.

But even if the temperature had been 100° (which is uncommon) at their starting point of Colorado Springs (~6,500'), by the time they reached the summit (>14,000') they'd have gained 7.5 kilofeet in elevation.

At an average lapse rate of 3.6°/kf, the temperature at the summit would have been no more than 73°. "Hot" for the summit, but not for cars.

No, I believe the engines were overheating because air pressure (and therefore oxygen available to the engines to burn gasoline and therefore power available from the engines) went down down down as they went up up up.

But that part's just a guess.

Also of practical significance is that if you want to escape the city heat (of Denver, especially), you drive up into the mountains.

narquespamley wrote:But to understand the issue, you have to look at why electronic equipment has an altitude spec in the first place.

Yes, good. That's what I wanted to know.

narquespamley wrote:That is because air at high altitude is thinner.

Like, it's on a diet? ;-)

narquespamley wrote:Thinner air doesn't cool electronics as well because there are fewer air molecules to carry away the heat with.

The worst case is when equipment is at high altitude AND at high temperature.

Summertime in the Rockies is heck on aviation. Aspen's airport is at 7,820' while Leadville's (allegedly the highest in North America) is at 9,927' (and has no scheduled commercial traffic). Ain't much of that there Wind Beneath My Wings.

narquespamley wrote:So the worst case is actually somebody like a field engineer in Denver on a hot summer day.

Or maybe someone servicing the slot machines in Leadville, the city of which is at 10,152'.

narquespamley wrote:There is a relationship between temperature specification and altitude specification called a derating curve. A typical derating is 1 degC/1000 ft (1.8 degF/1000 ft). So if a given piece of equipment is specified to operate at 40 degC and 5000 ft, it will also work at 39C and 6000 ft, or 30C and 15000ft.

Cool! Errr ... no pun intended. Thanks very much for the info!

-- Ed

worldofjohnboy wrote:It's nice knowing that all my Android apps are found in one place giving me the choice of weather or not to censor/install it.

Plus, I don't have to root my Android device to install apps that aren't on the market... I merely have to check a box to allow non-market apps to be installed.

No argument from me, who can barely live with a new Android device until I've rooted it so I can get even more apps on it! :-)

Now, by "all my Android apps are found in one place" you meant the Amazon app store, right?

Heehee! Just playin' with ya.

-- Ed

NOT A DEAL. You can get this at staples for $299

They are discounted $100 by HP and staples has a $100 coupon

With the Android tablets, the Blackberry Playbook, and 2 Gens of iPads leading the way, I'm not surprised that they're dropping the price to grab as much market share as they can.

Market saturation of these devices is only a year or two away....if not sooner.

This is a great tablet. I bought the 32GB versions, one for myself and one for the Mrs at full price. No regrets despite this great deal on Woot.

For those commenting on the lack of apps, the TouchPad had more tablet optimized apps than any of the other tablets when they launched.

Here are just some of the apps I have installed on my TouchPad that are all optimized for the TP screen resolution:

- Facebook - The best tablet optimized FB app
- PaperMache - great InstaPaper viewing app
- Glimpse - unique app for running up to 3 widgets at the same time on a single screen whose Twitter widget alone is worth the price
- Spaz - Poorly named but great Twitter client
- Pix - for image search across all major search engines and photo sites
- Shrek Cart - Mario Kart like game, great controls and graphics
- Dropboxify - drop box client
- Sparkle - addictive game that my kids can't put down
- AngryBirds - no explanation needed :-)
- SqueezeControl - controls Logitech Squeezboxes
- USA Today and Time Magazine apps - both have very nice UIs, with USA today's being very creative
- iheartradio - internet radio
- Kindle - amazon book reading
- HP MovieStore - high quality movie/TV download renting service
- AuctionMate - eBay app
- RSS/GoogleNews readers - tons of these available
- QuickOffice - MS Office and Adobe PDF File Viewing (read-only); integrated with local files, dropbox, box.net, GoogleDocs and MobileMe. All in one app.

Support for Skype video chat is built right into the phone app

Without an app I can run Hulu, Amazon Video on Demand, Wallmart Streaming Videos, iXL (math training site for kids), and any site that uses Flash.
I can configure it to automatically run the Flash or make it on-demand only. webOS gives me the CHOICE.

Homebrew has overclocking kernals that boost the dual 1.2 Ghz snapdragon processors up to 1.5 Ghz and even 2.0 Ghz!

Apps I miss:
- Netflix
- MS Office Editing (but Picsel Office has a video on YouTube showing their product running on TouchPad, so we can't be too far away: http://bit.ly/nsCyb2)
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- Photo Retouching (there are some basic ones, but they are not powerful enough)

Not a bad start for a tablet that has only been out for one month.

dshoener wrote:One word: HPUX

Been around since 84, and still used in almost all large customers I visit for repairs.

I am glad i am not the only one who remembered this.

I have to admit I am very tempted by this, I loved playing with the WebOS when testing the phones here in our office. I find the lack of apps a problem but how many of those would I use on a daily basis that I would miss, not so many, with a web browser, flash, music, and video player, I will have what I need for 90% of the tasks I want a tablet for.

Just bought the 32GB one at Staples for $599 less $100 instant savings and $100 in-store coupon, or $399 total, plus the sales person threw in 2 years of technical protection (not accidental protection, though) for free!!

nyisless13 wrote:webOS is the best mobile platform available, and I say that as a (somewhat reluctant) Android user. Aside from the Touchpad, the Veer is now available and the Pre3 is supposed to drop soon, though nobody seems to know where just yet.

The biggest downside to webOS is the relatively-limited app catalog and developer support, which is understandable given its exclusivity and lack of popularity. That isn't to say there aren't plenty of apps, hacks, tips, and tricks, but it all pales in comparison to Android and iOS.

I have agree with you, coming from an iOS user, some may say fanboy.

Oh, and how am I supposed to write this CAPTCHA?

I just bought one of these tooday at Staples. The total price was 299.99 They have an instant rebate of 100.00 and you can go on the web and get a 100.00 coupon that comes from Staples.

Wow, a big ol' Palm Pre. As cool as I admit WebOS is, the problem is that no one else has one. So when you Google up for hacks or appz there's very little out there. Andriod and IPad get 1,000s of hits each.

50 GB Free of Box.net storage with this... Sweet

billblandford wrote:So when you Google up for hacks or appz there's very little out there.

Why would you need to google for that anyway? Just go to http://www.precentral.net/ Done.
Sometimes a relatively small number of good quality applications, and a relatively small number of quality sites and forums end up being a lot more attractive than a scattered mess of mostly garbage everywhere.

Only $300 at Staples, this weekend only. You'll need the $100 off coupon from fatwallet.com

http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/16gb-hp-touchpad-could-be-at-cheapest-price-ever-this-weekend/

isoftdata wrote:[quote postid="4579898" user="Davidsturdy"]You are freaking OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG PONIES! buddy. I work with all tablets, and the HP while it is a great tablet, definitely does not outperform any market tablet right now. Lets talk basics for a minute.

Uhm... lets talk basics... FLASH yeah, got it and GOT IT in spades. I have a G Tab (lied about having FLASH, upgraded, hacked, upgraded again, cross-graded, still no real useable FLASH.) I'm sorry, the world uses FLASH. I have a Pre 1, I have a TouchPad. Touchpad does Flash, and not just gimmicky simple stuff but hardcore flash apps. That's a bar, and HP has made the cut. Been on WebOS since Day One, used iOS & used Android. IOS has some great apps and Apple knows UIX, no doubt. I'd never trade my TouchPad for Android though. Google just doesn't have their stuff together and I don't feel like they ever will.

WebOS on PC will change the world.

Oh, so what can I do on my PC with WebOS that I can't do now?

http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/16gb-hp-touchpad-could-be-at-cheapest-price-ever-this-weekend/

Can get it New from Staples today for only $299 16GB or $399 32GB. The heck with woot!

Is there a way to run Android on this? I know you can do it with the HTC Touch Pro2 Phone.

I have been able to play around with one of these at work and Its surprisingly decent. No iPad but the OS is nice and the guessing is different and fun. It took me a min to get used to the app store but over all 7 out of 10..

djphatjive wrote:http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/16gb-hp-touchpad-could-be-at-cheapest-price-ever-this-weekend/

Can get it New from Staples today for only $299 16GB or $399 32GB. The heck with woot!

Appears to be some issue with that. Most Staples don't have the 16 GB version. Some (not all) will let you pay for it at the store with store shipping and use the $100 discount + $100 coupon. Same with Office Depot. Some will match the $100+$100. Some only $100 - especially if there is no Staples close. I am going to try OD right after work. If they won't go with the $200 total off will order it from Woot.

Conclusions so far:

2 million people have found the Staples' special, and none of them have communicated with each other that the other 1,999,999 people have posted this as well on Woot.

This is a great deal (1) If you have a Staples nearby that (2) hopefully has it in stock/willing to let you buy it anyway and (3) get the coupon/code to work. Of course, calculate gas and time involved.

Woot isn't perfect regarding their sales: SHOCKING (of course, it's possible that HP screwed Woot over in setting this up, but Woot's not going to say anything about that to a frequent supplier. That would make the most sense. Woot isn't looking to get embarassed like this normally on price, and the other 80 times or so I can recall that others thought they found a better price before, they were wrong--it probably has happened before though).

For some, money is more important than time/convenience, some the other way around. Let's just say, personally I don't expect to be in front of any store on a Thanksgiving weekend day, but that's just my weakness. More power to those getting the Tablet at Stpales, and easily at that.

Edited since initial posting.

whatsamattaU wrote:For some, money is more important than time/convenience, some the other way around. Let's just say, personally I don't expect to be in front of any store on a Thanksgiving weekend day, but that's just my weakness. More power to those getting the Tablet at Stpales, and easily at that.

Edited since initial posting.

I feel that people getting the $200 deal are taking advantage of a glitch in the system. I'd be surprised if Staples corporate allows it to continue much longer.

Snowman710 wrote:50 GB Free of Box.net storage with this... Sweet

The Box.net 50 GB is a ~$250 value. Consider this when purchasing the TP. It really is an amazing deal! Especially considering Staples has it for $299.

PS. The TouchPad is very powerful after the recent update. You can also hack it up (easily) and increase the accelerate the speed of the dual cores inside.

@Ed,

Happy to amuse.

The point on altitude and temperature is that, from the perspective of electronics operation, they're independent variables.

But it is interesting to look at what happens if you start out at a given altitude and a given temperature and your electronics is happy, and then start climbing...

Per your numbers, the temperature is expected to go down by 2 degC (3.6 degF)/1000 ft. But the thermal derating is 1 degC (1.8 degF)/1000 ft. That means you can go as high as you want, because the temperature goes down with altitude twice as fast as the thermal derating curve.

All bets are off if it gets below freezing. The big enemy is condensation - water vapor has a nasty habit of becoming liquid on surfaces near freezing temperatures, and then things start to short out. We test things down to -5 degC and lower only in special test chambers that are designed to control the humidity. I've run systems down to -40 (C=F) and for the most part they're happy as clams and really really fast.

Leadville, Colorado actually isn't a concern. Its all-time record high temperature is only 86 degF/30 degC (at 10000'), so there's still 5 degrees of margin for electronics rated at 40 degC and 5000'.

Electronics overheating problems at high altitudes are more of an issue indoors - in places like computer rooms, telephone switching buildings, and cell tower equipment buildings - and usually also associated with poor ventilation.

shadow7118 wrote:Too bad it's REALLY only $50 off.. (appears the HP site is not giving the proper discount)

You have to purchase the TP from a retailer for the $100 discount. So, yes HP is giving the correct discount.

JediLow wrote:Bad timing for woot - HP is giving it a $100 discount this weekend. (You only save $20 now)

I'm betting this is part of HP's coordinated effort along with their sale in other outlets this weekend.

brasda91 wrote:You have to purchase the TP from a retailer for the $100 discount. So, yes HP is giving the correct discount.

Their "Home" site seems to be a little buggy with the rebate. If you call them and order direct, go through their Small Business portal, or sign in to one of their perks accounts the rebate shows up the way it should.

Woot made Reuters!

Bet this will sell out quickly now...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/05/hp-discount-idUSN1E7741E920110805

As a Missouri country girl, I am deeply saddened by this write-up. I don't hunt squirrels and eat them deep-fried! My squirrels are organic free-range farmed, and I eat them steamed with a side of sauteed kale and a glass of shiraz.

Also, NASCAR sucks.

About the Staples Deal.

I started calling around to Staples and learned that most are already aware of HP's deal of a $100.00 dollars off.

(hp.com/offer)

And they will accept the Spatples coupon of $100.00 dollars off.

(http://www.fatwallet.com/static/attachments/105620__100_staples_98980.jpg)

I was looking for a 16GB Touchpad. I finally found one clerk that look up stocking status at all Virginia Staples stores. They only carry the 32GB version.

So this didn't work for me. But if your looking for a 32GB version or maybe live in an area where Staples stores carry the 16GB version then you're good to go.

brasda91 wrote:You have to purchase the TP from a retailer for the $100 discount. So, yes HP is giving the correct discount.

This here HP web page don't say nuthin' about it onliest bein' in stores.

This 'un here don't neither. But it gives yuh the hunnert bux off. The other'n don't.

I knows I'se stoopid but I ain't illitirit.

-- Mister Ed

$299 at Staples today with coupon online. Brand New!

narquespamley wrote:Leadville, Colorado actually isn't a concern. Its all-time record high temperature is only 86 degF/30 degC (at 10000'), so there's still 5 degrees of margin for electronics rated at 40 degC and 5000'.

Electronics overheating problems at high altitudes are more of an issue indoors - in places like computer rooms, telephone switching buildings, and cell tower equipment buildings - and usually also associated with poor ventilation.

Yeah, it gets really hot for those little guys who spend all day inside the slot machines!

-- Ed

tmedvick wrote:There are multiple browsers available, but not a lot of add-on style pieces yet. Development for WebOS is ridiculously open. There is a huge Homebrew community that HP has actually sent dev machines and a server. WebOS is really, really, awesome.

steffej3 wrote:There's already one non-stock browser available that adds tabbed browsing & some other nice features, but it's pretty close in basic function to the stock browser. There are even a couple in the webOS phone space. So there is some freedom for sure.

As for chrome & firefox, I would assume if they dev'd an app, it would be fine. For the more involved homebrew supporters, you can partition Ubuntu & run it actively in card view within webOS. It still has rough edges, but opens up a larger world of existing (but not optimized) software possibilities. Anyway, hope that helps.

okay, thanks for the info.

I have a black squirrel in my yard which I have named "Minky" he enjoys strolls in the yards a good fresh peanut and having meaningful conversations with birds.

for $300 at staples