At this price, the warranty should be much better than 90 days. I'll pass. Sadly though. We are looking for a TV for the downstairs sitting room.

Does this TV have a 1 year warranty ?

Here's a decent review http://thetvreview.com/philips-32pfl3505df7-32-inch-lcd-hdtv-review/ 60 Hz refresh rate is not good. Still a screaming deal if you need a TV for kitchen, garage, office etc

Costco has a Hanspree 32" LED HDTV for $299.99 online. Use your Costco/AMEX credit card and recieve an aditional year warranty.
I like some of the WOOT offers but this one isn't impressive at all.

thetateman wrote:all that wait for another tv....

Bored with Woot's offerings. ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz

agreed wrote:I'm pointing out that there are a number of purposes for which this would be miserable for most people. If you're using it as a monitor, for example, it wasn't long ago that 16:10 monitors rated 1200 vertical pixels at resolutions above 21"; now the 16:10 standard is dropping off, but nonetheless you can very, very easily perceive a difference between 720p and 1080p on much smaller screens (22-24") when using multi-purpose sets as monitors. That's within a typical viewing distance of a computer, usually 2' to 3'.

It would also be miserable as a space heater. Or a reading light. As a bedroom TV, the purpose for which I (and probably 90+% of purchasers) bought it, at normal viewing distances (not 2'), it works just fine and is well worth the money.

Actual testing, not just opinion, has demonstrated that the average viewer at normal viewing distances can't reliably distinguish between 720 and 1080 at screen sizes smaller than about 46".

tim74 wrote:That looks like Lance Burton's smashed lamp post from the restoration show.

Damnit, I saw that too. Was hoping to be the one who identified it first.

Apparently I have an eidetic memory for truly random, useless images and information.

The picture on the screen is taken from an episode of the History Channel TV show American Restoration. Specifically, it's from the episode featuring a cameo by Lance Burton, Las Vegas stage magician, in which one of the pictured fancy light posts was blown down in a windstorm.

I said it'd be fine for a bedroom TV, but bad for a living room TV. (And you got a quality post for saying the same thing with less criticism, phooey).

I'd certainly appreciate it if you wouldn't mind linking to actual testing (only because you brought it up as QED on what you clearly feel is mere opinion on my part; I would like to see the testing, especially with regard to how they treated field of view as part of the methodology since that plays such a big role in whether you perceive the "screen door" effect with lower resolutions).

rgcombs wrote:It would also be miserable as a space heater. Or a reading light. As a bedroom TV, the purpose for which I (and probably 90+% of purchasers) bought it, at normal viewing distances (not 2'), it works just fine and is well worth the money.

Actual testing, not just opinion, has demonstrated that the average viewer at normal viewing distances can't reliably distinguish between 720 and 1080 at screen sizes smaller than about 46".

ew.... only 720....refurbed.... 60hz...8ms response time.... come on woot, you can do better than that

I bought the 42" version of this one and it works great!! The built-in speakers aren't awesome, but I've got the sound running through my old Carvin P.A. speakers and a stereo power amp which really rumbles the low end. Once I got it, I had to re-watch my entire DVD collection just for the sheer beauty of the colors and clarity as compared to my old tube-TV.

"agreed agrees with others, and 32" is just fine for typical viewing."

Blood money, that quality post is blood money! No mods, no masters! Down with the woot plutocracy! Put my dignity up as your next woot, payable in quality posts ;_;

theatrain218 wrote:Apparently I have an eidetic memory for truly random, useless images and information.

The picture on the screen is taken from an episode of the History Channel TV show American Restoration. Specifically, it's from the episode featuring a cameo by Lance Burton, Las Vegas stage magician, in which one of the pictured fancy light posts was blown down in a windstorm.

You are so late to the party.

Just noticed that it's one of those weird 1366x768 "720p" ones, too. Built as a compromise between an actual 720p resolution (which would be lower, actually, at 1280x720) and 1080p, and not very cooperative when it comes to scaling and pixel mapping over HDMI - fine with VGA, but does it even have a VGA input?

How old are these sets, I wonder? Does mean it has a higher resolution than true 720p, but if you plan on gaming on it, you miiiight not like the results if you're not using a 360 (it'll support weird resolutions thanks to the internal scaling, whereas the PS3 will try to feed it a true 720p signal and it'll be slightly off...)

Part of the processing of incoming HDMI signals in general (not computer stuff, this seems like it is, weirdly, using a panel type that was intended as a compromise resolution to enable PC monitor usage, but doesn't have the usual accouterments to fulfill that role)... But in general, the processing it does to the signal to pretty things up and make 'em fit ought to take care of it for the most part and at 32" it might not be a big deal, but it is an odd resolution that isn't actually 720p though it was marketed by some reputable brands as 720p (and remains so by less than reputable brands - sometimes even marketed as "1080p capable" or something like that, which just means it'll take a 1080p input and scale it down, shady tactics and good on Phillips for not going down that route).

There are better deals for better TV's on eBay. Check out the Razor Vizio's right now.

sugarwater414 wrote:CNET Review:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/philips-32pfl3505d-f7/4505-6482_7-34053388.html?tag=mncol;lst;3

Enjoy!

Actually only users review, no CNET review for this model.

I bought this a couple weeks ago and it arrived with serious damage to the base and several significant screen scratches. Woot told me to call Philips. Philips said Woot has to handle it and Woot is outright refusing, stating that Philips shipped it. I'm very disappointed in Woot. They have some customer service reps (Tye) who shouldn't be in customer svc. I'm going to call American Express today to see if they can light a fire under them. Quite a shame.

jclaeys wrote:

I bought a philips TV on Woot site last year and it too would turn off on it's own. Philips sent another and within 6 months it will not even power on at all! Never will I buy "refurbished" again. 90 day warranty is nothing. Now we are out a TV and will purchase another new with a store 1year warranty and credit card warranty for an extra year. Philips told me that Woot only buys their "refurbished" products...you take a chance.

Don't buy refurbished!!!! 90 days warranty is nothing in today's market. It's junk.

I didn't realize how many avid w00ters wait for the deal to begin each day.. Is there a correlation of amazing deals that go sold out in an hour that I haven't seen yet?

Also I'm wondering if this is worth the 720p, I know everyone says below 37" is pointless for 1080p but I really like my 23" monitor having it :0

does anybody know how well this tv does with video game systems? is there any audio/visual lag over an hdmi connection?

Enough of 32" refurb TVs. When will Woot give us a crack at those thousands of brand-new-still-in-the-shrink-wrap HP Touchpads???

Phillips is now a Chinese company and all tv's are manufactured in China. I also believe the same company owns Vizio or Westinghouse. Although I try not to buy Chinese goods I do own a Phillips 52in LCD I bought from woot remaned, never had any problems with it.

From the last woot (http://www.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=4564218, meadowlark commented on Consumer Reports:

http://www.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=4565180

and from PCMag 2010 Readers' Survey--Philips not great but not worst:

http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=267315,00.asp

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368161,00.asp

Product website:

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=32PFL3505D/F7&scy=us&slg=en

with manual:

http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/3/32pfl3505d_f7/32pfl3505d_f7_dfu_aen.pdf

think of jumping in. need a bedroom set.

buy two and resell?

Groupv wrote:Does this TV have a 1 year warranty ?

No it says it has a 90 day P&F warranty, tho it is authorized for SquareTrade Extended Warranty of 1 year for $37.99

Same thing happened to me with this TV - I had 3 of these in my house - two of them would turn themselves off and the third had an awful picture - fuzzy and distorted. Philips took them all back (I ended up getting my $ back after the third) but I would recommend staying far away from this woot.

brianperroni wrote:I bought this TV on here a few weeks ago. It worked fine for a couple of days but then it started turning itself off almost as soon as I turned it on. It takes me turning it on close to 15 times or so now, allowing it to warm up, before it will stay on. I googled the problem when it first happened and it seems it was somewhat common.

The good news is that Philips has worked with me on it. They first thought it simply needed a software update but when that didn't work they decided to send me a new TV. It is in the mail now and they are sending me a postage paid box to ship the old one back. I'm hoping the new one has the problem fixed because it is a pretty good TV when it actually works.

NetJackson wrote:I bought this a couple weeks ago and it arrived with serious damage to the base and several significant screen scratches. Woot told me to call Philips. Philips said Woot has to handle it and Woot is outright refusing, stating that Philips shipped it. I'm very disappointed in Woot. They have some customer service reps (Tye) who shouldn't be in customer svc. I'm going to call American Express today to see if they can light a fire under them. Quite a shame.

I have had a similar experience. I would stay away from anything not brand new on Woot...even at that, I bought the heart monitor watch a few months back....the face fell off during the first week of wearing it. Would it be good customer service for Woot to just swap out the watch, Yes! Did they do that? No, call the manufacturer. Great, THANKS....NOT!

Just remember: Philips=Funai=poorest Asian manufacturer.

This thing is fairly OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG PONIES!. Not jersey shore OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG PONIES!, but like recent seasons of the simpsons OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG PONIES!. I bought one in afghanistan and used it in my room, and it put off an awful lot of heat and didnt want to work all the time. Other than that its not bad but not great either. Maybe it was it's three month journey from woot to the initial apo..... or maybe it was the 10 days it took to make it the rest of the way

My gf had this in her living room, and I hated it every time I watched it. Moved it to the bedroom, hung it on the wall, and it's good. it's lighter than the 26" westinghouse she had there before, and doesn't have the vertical angle issue the westie had. The picture is good enough, but the sound isn't that clear. The worst part - digital audio out isn't matched to the volume control, and the setup has no option to make digital output variable - so I have to change the outboard speaker volume manually. I have an old cambridge soundworks set of tiny bose-size surround speakers with a digital input, and I can't use it because it has no remote, and I can't adjust the volume. Every other TV I've had has a "TV speakers on/off" setting and a "external speakers variable or fixed" setting - but not this one.

Tigerdirect has Westinghouse VR-3225 32" Class Widescreen LCD HDTV - 1080p, 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 6000:1, 8ms, HDMI, VGA, Energy Star for $289 plus coupon code of EVV40408 making it $269. New 1 yr warranty. Good thru tomorrow.

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Urgh Philips not the Philips I thought it was... sadly I didn't know this b4 we bought our 55" paperweight! Same old on & off clicking problem ALL these Philips/Magnavox seem to have (where they can take up to 10 power ons & offs b4 they'll work) now it's just stopped completely! Philips now equals U ARE EFF'D w/ a Funai!

http://gizmodo.com/377355/philips-wont-sell-tvs-in-north-america-anymore

Beware. I'm on my 3rd refurb as they keep failing. Not worth the savings IMO.

Like other said in the comments, the problem with this TV is

1) substantially overpriced
2) refurbished for iffy brand
3) low resolution

The 2nd and 3rd point can be overlooked if the price was right, but this TV is really overpriced.

I personally was able through patiently looking at deals sites over a span of 2 months to get a new LG 1080p 32 inch for 240 final price including taxes/shipping/state recycle fee. The point being with patience you can get a real deal for something you ideally be using daily for years to come.

Also looking at the pricing trends of 32 inch HDTV, I would not be surprised to find 1080 p 32 inch TVs of older technology (non LED, 60 hz) on sale regularly for around this woot price during and after black friday.

The oval she is a-bouncing....

Ooh, Time After Time on Blue Ray... (recalls putting myself on Amazon's interest list for the DVD) Time to buy it in yet another format...

This is good television for watching TV shows, but it's not so great for gaming. The 8ms response time is very noticeable, even to people who aren't used to playing games that require great reactions.

Since it can't do 1080p it's also not ideal for blu-ray movies...but if you use DVDs (or watch HD TV) those look fine in 720p.

This makes a good bedroom/guest room set, but it's probably not the ideal primary set.

Why does everyone hate on 720p? I have two 37'' tvs, one is 720p the other 1080p. I watch bluray on both with HDMI inputs. I actually don't know which one is witch, Id have to check the picture seems identical. At 32" I'm sure 720p is fine. Maybe 50''+ you'd want 1080p, but 32''? Comon 720p is fine.

As for the using as a monitor this I understand as you generally sit much closer to a monitor than a TV.